[TF2] Soldier's BEST Weapon in MvM

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WeezyTF2

WeezyTF2

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@tf2dar
@tf2dar 2 жыл бұрын
another tip for beggar's bazooka, this time. you should ALWAYS max reload speed before anything. get 1 HoK if you're using conch and 2 if you're using other banners. (1 rocket specialist of course xd. if you are damage hungry then go for 2) never get clip size, lol. (unless it's lategame). tapfiring with max reload statistically deals more damage output. maxing firing speed actually helps a lot too makes you tapfire one more rocket per second (that's a lot of damage when you have damage upgraded!) i have a damage record on metro malice of 315k with beggars only. the ideal upgrade path is max reload as soon as you can then get 1 rocket spec. 1 or 2 HoK MAX out damage as soon as you can, or balance/alternate it with ammo capacity (2 ticks ammo cap max. 3rd is unnecessary usually) OR (for above) max dmg, balance firing speed with ammo capacity resistances are optional. ammo canteen is recommended hope i helped :)
@WeezyTF2
@WeezyTF2 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of putting a similar upgrade path in the video but cut it out as it got a tad longwinded, but I agree with pretty much all of it. Pinning this so it helps as many people as possible, cheers!
@sirscribbs5993
@sirscribbs5993 2 жыл бұрын
I like it but im curious about the rocket specialist, sure you get a slightly larger blast radius if you hit directly, and no falloff, but with how unlikely you are to even Hit those shots, surely its a bit less of a priority?
@tf2dar
@tf2dar 2 жыл бұрын
@Sir Scribbs well, the strategy is to aim near the feet. your splash damage will compensate for the misses. be close to the enemies also! (HoK helps for that :))
@tf2dar
@tf2dar 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirscribbs5993 and, no. the blast radius applies to everything INCLUDING misses. the direct hits only subtly stun robots if hit constantly. one more thing: rocket specialist does help with crowd control. however, do NOT upgrade it first. upgrade reload, then 1 specialist; you can do literally whatever you want in lategame. also, being close to the enemies has damage rampup, so you'd get even more damage if you'd just stand further away and only focus on direct hits (:
@sirscribbs5993
@sirscribbs5993 2 жыл бұрын
@@tf2dar I'll need to do some testing to see if it still holds true, but I'm fairly confident the larger blast radius still only applies to rockets that directly hit robots
@icetide9411
@icetide9411 2 жыл бұрын
I had always been turned away from the beggars from the no ammo from dispensers. I thought that was a requirement to stay shooting in MvM. But apparently that stat works differently than I thought it did. I'll have to give it a try
@sugarrushambassador
@sugarrushambassador 2 жыл бұрын
Just switch to your melee using Q, and boom.
@arslors
@arslors 2 жыл бұрын
@@sugarrushambassador better tactic is to use ur banner and get ammo at the same time
@lordrj4203
@lordrj4203 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I use the mini-crit banner while getting ammo from a dispenser while playing wave 666 Which gives everyone near me Mini-crits while i get my ammo replenished to 50(max ammo capacity) in mere 2 ticks and then go Full Monke on those hoard of robots
@itscznben8728
@itscznben8728 Жыл бұрын
there should be an upgrade that removes that stat.
@cosmicfails2053
@cosmicfails2053 Ай бұрын
Combo the Beggars with any banner and simply cycle through between shooting and tooting
@LucarioDoT
@LucarioDoT 2 жыл бұрын
Learning that the beggar's is the least used launcher in MvM is a big shock to me since the weapon seems to be tailor made for shooting at large groups, and a giant target is rather hard to miss. Granted, it DOES take a bit of time for it to get going, but once it did, well...you showed what it could do in the video.
@imthesupportingrole
@imthesupportingrole 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine its a decent weapon. The problem is im bad with it.
@TheProphetOfThePan
@TheProphetOfThePan 2 жыл бұрын
Well people have tendency to gravite towards the coward loadout (blackbox conch combo) because with all the upgrades you are gonna be healing 24/7, plus with all the damage resistance upgrades its even more tempting.
@dVector13
@dVector13 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetOfThePan the coward combo, if you will
@LucarioDoT
@LucarioDoT 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetOfThePan Don't need to heal if everything is dead
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 2 жыл бұрын
@@dVector13 Conch Blackbox can be used offensively in PVP but why would anyone use blackbox in MVM besides the Scooby-tier cowards
@jaydenchimp1391
@jaydenchimp1391 2 жыл бұрын
"you're better off trying to make toast in the dark than hitting anything at range with this thing" Me, making toast in the dark at 2AM listening to this in my pocket via my earphones: "maybe I am The Sniper"
@yumm186
@yumm186 2 жыл бұрын
was the toast good
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 2 жыл бұрын
The demon in the room: *RIGHT BEHIND YOU*
@SATURNZFLOW
@SATURNZFLOW 2 жыл бұрын
@@cristinagomez3283 demoman: No. **sticky bomb explosion followed by laugh taunt**
@baaa838
@baaa838 2 жыл бұрын
@@SATURNZFLOW KABLOOWEY
@MrGellert619
@MrGellert619 Жыл бұрын
was it good doe
@badluck7286
@badluck7286 2 жыл бұрын
Beggar's is a shotgun rocketlauncher. It's good upclose and bad at distance. but in mvm the downsides negate because you can have 12 FUCKING ROCKETS LOADED AT ONCE, IT'S A ROCKET GATLING GUN HOLY CRAP THIS THING IS GOOD
@MistakennJ
@MistakennJ 2 жыл бұрын
not to mention it fires crazy fast and reloads really quickly
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 2 жыл бұрын
11* max clip size upgrade only adds 8 more rockets to the existing 3
@badluck7286
@badluck7286 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshermantanker7043 ^
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, IT'S A ROCKET MINIGUN
@Draedon126
@Draedon126 Жыл бұрын
I would like to make an sfm of soldier holding a mini gun made of rocket launchers shooting rockets
@PoRRasturvaT
@PoRRasturvaT 2 жыл бұрын
Tip: firing TWO rockets (or more) as opposed to just one at a time has a greatly reduced spread. It was made so you couldn't spam infinite rockets at an engineer repairing his sentry, but still take one down if you took the time to reload enough rockets. And now you can play from a much safer distance. At 11:39, almost all rockets would hit the giants inside the arch there, and all rockets would hit the giants medics on the scene after. I don't say you can snipe snipers (well you can, one of the two is gonna hit eventually, throwback to your example on Mannhatan), but it should definitely be noted. Two rockets is a bit slower than tap firing, but the increased accuracy makes up for it in many scenarios. Yes, this weapon is absolutely much better than you thought it was. (10,000 giant kills on mine)
@fireheartclan
@fireheartclan 2 жыл бұрын
Before the Beggar’s had its “nerf” it was quite common even on lower tours from my experience. (This was years ago though). Glad to see someone is bringing it to light again. Not much had the same feeling as 5 Soldiers (sometimes 6) doing the tank only wave with basically maxed out beggars, crits and/or mini-crits. Half the time the tanks would barely even leave the tunnel/spawn. Sometimes I am tempted to just redownload TF2 to just play MVM again, really do love this game mode.
@itscznben8728
@itscznben8728 Жыл бұрын
what nerf.
@fireheartclan
@fireheartclan Жыл бұрын
@@itscznben8728 I went to look up the exact day it was nerfed, but guess it’s not documented on the common Wikipedias. It used to not have the -20% explosion radius. (Can be seen on the old weapon cards for the weapon) Meaning it generally did more damage per salvo because of how explosion radius damage drop off works.
@seva7500
@seva7500 11 ай бұрын
@@fireheartclanwow that sounds crazy
@Raxarion
@Raxarion 2 жыл бұрын
Binged through all your videos and waiting for more. Really entertaining and informative , keep it up bro
@WeezyTF2
@WeezyTF2 2 жыл бұрын
Comments like this immediately make me open google docs and get to work, thanks you :)
@Raxarion
@Raxarion 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeezyTF2 Awesome to hear you so motivated , just don't go overboard with work though , work sustainablely
@enchilordo8562
@enchilordo8562 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very glad I ran into this channel. It looks very promising and deserves every bit of attention it gets👍👍
@preyasmanthedemopan2854
@preyasmanthedemopan2854 2 жыл бұрын
WeezyTF2: "Do you see how big this number is!?!?" Me with the Brass Beast: *Laughs in 200k
@BigLuke1324
@BigLuke1324 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed nothing Beats the Brass Beast, atleast Not in Terms of damage
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigLuke1324 Snipers with heavy upgrades to their rifles can outdamage Heavies if they have good aim
@BigLuke1324
@BigLuke1324 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshermantanker7043 true HH snipers can do way more damage but Like you Said you need good aim Form that :D
@josiahsimonalcantara3086
@josiahsimonalcantara3086 2 жыл бұрын
Buut its not funni number
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigLuke1324 good point, though I myself don't really use explosive headshot all that much, so I can't really compete
@ijkdenem
@ijkdenem 2 жыл бұрын
i used the Beggar's Bazooka in regular matches all the time and kicked ass with it. true it take some skill to use properly but most definitely a hidden gem of a weapon that is seldom called upon.
@XplosiveAction
@XplosiveAction 2 жыл бұрын
The Beggars is a literal glass cannon but is fun and satisfying if you know what you're doing in MvM. Combined with the Conch, your risk of being immediately bodied from robots is lessened, meaning you can jump into a group of bots, fire a couple times, and get out. Obviously the strat is to spam click rather than upgrading clip size (even if its fun as hell to do that for tank busting with a crit canteen, or to just destroy every bot on the map). Getting Firing Speed also helps as it decreases the random angle of the rockets, on top of the already existing firing speed, and it basically negates that random angle issue, unless you're far away, which isn't really what you do with the beggars; again, glass cannon weapon with you going up in every bots face. HOWEVER, reload speed, as you know, is what you should focus on FIRST in MvM, as you said, to mitigate the large reload time. This brings up the one exception to the "no more than 1 rocket specialist rule" as it makes the rockets travel faster, i.e. less randomization. So for the beggars specifically, getting more than 1 rocket specialist is NOT a cardinal sin. I see the beggars as essentially a "rocket launcher with a 20 rocket clip" (before you upgrade said clip), where the downside is the delay of loading the rocket to fire. If you predict a bots movement with the timing of how long it takes to reload, you've essentially got a straight-up upgrade. (Also this video was extremely well scripted and edited, good job with the audio quality and background music choice/good volume. Blurring the screen when bringing up an image is a classic form of editing that you got down pat)
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 2 жыл бұрын
How is the beggars a glass Cannon lmao that launcher is straight up spam for ez dmg
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 2 жыл бұрын
No idea why rocket specialist is such a bane, I find that when there's credits to spare rocket specialist helps with aim massively with the faster rockets and larger blast radius
@VeryPeeved
@VeryPeeved 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardo9259 also, it isn't made out of glass. and i'm not sure it's actually a cannon.
@commitfelonyfeline
@commitfelonyfeline 2 жыл бұрын
more like a cannon that fires buckshot...aimed at the snipers...
@ambassadorgaming8411
@ambassadorgaming8411 2 жыл бұрын
Man I’m so happy a random Medic told me to use this thing in MvM some time ago
@dakotasan8719
@dakotasan8719 2 жыл бұрын
I was already a Beggar’s main before seeing this, so this is vindication for me. Way too much fun just unleashing a rain of fire on bots XD
@Isaacfess
@Isaacfess 2 жыл бұрын
My main launcher from the start. It's awesome.
@Sythll
@Sythll 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say i absolutely love your choice of music in your videos
@DamianVarnum
@DamianVarnum 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been this into a TF2uber since the og Star and Jerma days. Thank you for the content man
@heinrichze-france4089
@heinrichze-france4089 2 жыл бұрын
I already knew most of this, but for a whole different reason. The beggar's bazooka is essentially a god send on wave 6666, due to the swarms of robots that you have to deal with, especially when keeping them in the front of the map.
@zaaphyyre
@zaaphyyre 2 жыл бұрын
I always knew that the Beggar's Bazooka is the best MvM rocket launcher, but I prefer to use the stock or the Original because they're more fun to use, in my opinion. While I know that performance is pretty important, I prefer to play for fun. Good video, though!
@ianjackson4721
@ianjackson4721 2 жыл бұрын
The beggars bazooka is my go to rocket launcher for destroying sentry nests, because it can fire 3 rockets in a second, and unlike every single other rocket launcher (except for the air strike), doesn’t allow engineers to repair their buildings, and if you are close enough, all 3 of the rockets hit for upwards of 250 damage.
@mlggamer6943
@mlggamer6943 2 жыл бұрын
Not only was this video incredibly entertaining and informative the music is great
@icy3-1
@icy3-1 2 жыл бұрын
I remember like 6 years ago when I played MvM on some community servers with "rtd" and money regen. One of the "rtd" effects was "Homing Projectiles" which basically turned the Soldier's rockets (except those fired by the Air Strike), Sniper's arrows, and Medic's crossbow bolts into homing crit projectiles. The Beggar's Bazooka with this effect was borderline broken as it basically turned the Soldier into a smart artillery piece that can hit any robot (except tanks since the homing effect doesn't work on them) even while at spawn or behind cover, completely negating the huge accuracy penalty and not requiring you to put yourself in harm's way just to get a lot of burst damage in.
@itscznben8728
@itscznben8728 Жыл бұрын
there should be an aimbot canteen.
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 Жыл бұрын
@@itscznben8728 Sniper would be even more busted. Or heck HEAVY could be busted.
@godusopp1797
@godusopp1797 2 жыл бұрын
I view the Airstrike as a viable alternative to the Beggars since it also becomes very effective when fully burst fired at any level of play
@dispentryporter8621
@dispentryporter8621 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the airstrike needs to reload constantly makes it pretty obvious that it's in no way comparable to the Beggar's.
@godusopp1797
@godusopp1797 2 жыл бұрын
@@dispentryporter8621 Yeah its definitely not comparable to the Beggars, because the Airstrike's Burst Damage is _Much_ higher
@dispentryporter8621
@dispentryporter8621 2 жыл бұрын
@@godusopp1797 It objectively isn't, and frankly the sustained DPS of the Beggar's is just… better honestly. They're not comparable, because the Beggar's is just so much better at everything. Not just against the Airstrike, it's better at everything than any other launcher.
@godusopp1797
@godusopp1797 2 жыл бұрын
@@dispentryporter8621 Oh it's not comparable? I guess I'm not going to bother ever Rocket Jumping with the Airstrike in order to turn it into a weapon that's way better than the Beggars....
@dispentryporter8621
@dispentryporter8621 2 жыл бұрын
@@godusopp1797 It isn't better than the Beggar's, even with the rocket jumping, but okay buddy.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I prefer the survivability offered by the black box, but I can't deny the frankly absurd DPS on the Beggar.
@Guy_Noob
@Guy_Noob 2 жыл бұрын
YOOO LES GOOOOOO MORE MVM GUIDES! also why u so underrated?
@octopusoup
@octopusoup 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a vid on beggar's in MvM. I found the beggars extremely effective way back when MvM first came out. Now we have a proper explanation on what made it so good.
@b52stealthbomber25
@b52stealthbomber25 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I think you forgot one (somewhat?) important aspect of beggars in mvm, the rocket jumping, specifically overload jumping. What is it? Many think of beggar´s misfire as a downside, but it can become an upside in the right hands. Basically, you can rocketjump midair by holding m1, and jumping ~0.75 seconds before it misfires (or around when you hear the noise of the last rocket loading if you have reload speed maxed). TLDR: rocketjumping in midair. How is it useful? It helps mitigate one of the beggar´s downside mentioned in the video, by the fact that you can be anywhere you want in like 3 seconds (atleast on smaller maps on coaltown or decoy, may take more if it´s further away) What are it´s downsides? 1. It will take a lot of health if you don´t have blast resistance 2. Makes extra clip size more of a downside than an upside Should I use then? Short answer: yes, Long answer: except in the last missions of Rottenburg (or other waves with lots of tanks), yes PS: I could not find any examples of this on youtube, maybe they appear in a video by Scoutfingers.
@XplosiveAction
@XplosiveAction 2 жыл бұрын
Usually you wouldn’t get extra clip until a tank wave or not even at all, it’s not needed on a normal wave, bc you spam click rather than stick the beggars with rockets, so overload jumping is still a plus. Standard rocket jumping is still there, you just have to prepare for the delay the rocket has
@b52stealthbomber25
@b52stealthbomber25 2 жыл бұрын
@@XplosiveAction Exactly.
@ramhevelio1802
@ramhevelio1802 2 жыл бұрын
I love Overload Jumping since I can go back and forth to spawn and frontline to rebuy canteens on later waves
@coreypark3244
@coreypark3244 2 жыл бұрын
@@XplosiveAction flying soldier man
@Kayther33
@Kayther33 2 жыл бұрын
very good choose with the market gardener knight music
@PurpleBroadcast
@PurpleBroadcast 2 жыл бұрын
U were at 800s subs when i subscribed some hours ago, at this rate youll reach 1k in no time
@isg4
@isg4 2 жыл бұрын
I love the beggars because I love it's loading mechanic, even similar mechanics in RPGs If you land it right, the dopamine hit is uncomparable
@joho4430
@joho4430 2 жыл бұрын
I like the play style changing weapons of MVM, didn’t consider this as one
@lumbajackthumbs7755
@lumbajackthumbs7755 2 жыл бұрын
Beggars will hurt your DPS later on in life from the arthritis debuff.
@pyrotf2294
@pyrotf2294 2 жыл бұрын
1:55 yooo Soldier can get metal from dispensers if he isn’t holding the beggars bazooka.
@goldencheeze
@goldencheeze 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who considers himself decent at beggars jumping and someone who adores the beggars, acquired taste or not, it warms my heart to see this weapon finds love in other modes rather than gathering dust in backpacks, even if it’s for DPS instead of jumping. Trash cannon gang forever.
@cdxxlxil9159
@cdxxlxil9159 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand why people don't like using the Beggar's but I've found this to have the gunslinger effect of being arguably the most important sidegrade in the game; You can use the self-damage you get from overloading to get the massive advantage to travel across the map in SECONDS and still have 3 rockets to fire on anyone that is unlucky enough to be in your field of view. Not only is this arguably the best way to play Trolldier while keeping a primary weapon, It allows for some insane picks where engineers can't pop the wrangler fast enough to save their sentry and Bazaar Bargain Snipers don't have the reaction time to quick scope you. Is it frustrating at times? YES, but I 100% recommend this weapon to anyone who is tired of the same soldier gimmicks.
@mrlongli1803
@mrlongli1803 2 жыл бұрын
This is legit a very good quality video. It has good motivation and reasoning. Over all i love the video
@tf2dar
@tf2dar 2 жыл бұрын
wait, holy shit i just realized i have you on my friends list LMAO
@wasted1390
@wasted1390 2 жыл бұрын
I renamed my Beggars Bazooka to "Wait, that Worked?" then edited its description to "I mean, it did! I FULLY calculated that!"
@happyCSdude999
@happyCSdude999 2 жыл бұрын
very good video! very informative very interesting i dunno why these youtubers have so small subscribers but you deserve at least 1K because your content is so great!
@OlaftheGreat
@OlaftheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
I never use the parachute with the Air Strike, I very much prefer to use the Concheror (or sometimes Buff Banner, depending on team comp). Imagine jumping into a crowd of robots, unleashing a barrage of death with max ROF, and being healed on every hit
@dimsthedimwit600
@dimsthedimwit600 Жыл бұрын
Sounds soldier enough for me
@DustD.Reaper
@DustD.Reaper 2 жыл бұрын
I think the beggar's is a "win more" alternative to stock, with a decent team the beggar's is an absolute monster, but with an unexperienced team stock might be better for its consistancy
@dispentryporter8621
@dispentryporter8621 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh, the Beggar's is plenty consistent if you stay close and get good with the weapon, and if you're carrying a struggling team, then the stronger weapon will always be the better choice. Beggar's is easily one of the best carry weapons in the game if used correctly, far better than stock which I'd say prefers having an experienced team more than Beggar's does since it needs someone to cover for you when you're reloading.
@cameronmacmillan1849
@cameronmacmillan1849 2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly shocked you have so little subs with the quality of these videos, just binged them all and am now awaiting the next one
@lovestrucktheidiot
@lovestrucktheidiot 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy using Beggar’s in conjunction with one of the banners, since as soon as my banner is ready I can just scoot slightly back to the dispenser while I activate it to get my ammo back, then keep going immediately… I adore my tank shredder. Was what got me into trying out and enjoying MvM Soldier even though I have more hours in Scout/Pyro.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is underrated plz can we at least give him 50k+ subs
@zacharytracy3797
@zacharytracy3797 2 жыл бұрын
Oh mah friggin’g gawd 7:52 I got an ad for Valvoline Lubricating oil right after “blowjobs” came…on the screen 🤣🤣
@misspotato813
@misspotato813 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing 10x game mode way back in 2014 and it was easily the "meta" weapon of choice. People flying around like they had god mode from how fast soldier would reload and the self damage from the explosions being almost completely negated thanks to gunboats. I'm curious what other OP 10x items would shine in MvM
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 Жыл бұрын
Brass beast alone would delete everything.😊
@calsalitra4689
@calsalitra4689 9 ай бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 About as quickly as me responding to your comment, but yes. Eventually.
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 9 ай бұрын
@@calsalitra4689 nah just spin up before the wave.
@PJSproductions97
@PJSproductions97 2 жыл бұрын
A little constructive criticism, I think there was probably a better way to communicate the reload/firing speed stats than a pie chart. I had to pause the video to grasp it, and that's while you're even explaining it to me!
@nitefurie.
@nitefurie. Жыл бұрын
Fun trick with beggars: you can fill your clip then hold it by taunting (looping taunts like kazotsky, conga, or high five work best) or opening the con tracker menu. It’s a much bigger deal in pvp, but it still has its moments in mvm, especially if you’re new and don’t having your timings right
@C0DY420
@C0DY420 Жыл бұрын
6:18 That clip is from the Technoblade video: Proof I don’t autoclick
@ipv6tf2
@ipv6tf2 2 жыл бұрын
beggar’s really is great! but if your teammates aren’t gonna pitch in taking out support bots (snipers, spies, engies, scouts that take the bomb and sneak past.. you know, the annoying kind) i would then value accuracy just to play offensive and support at the same time
@Illuhabratuhagitarist
@Illuhabratuhagitarist 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Can I translate that to Russian language and public on my channel?
@1atem
@1atem 2 жыл бұрын
Beggars is like spy, the most underrated mechanic that works actually when you know how to use it and your team is at least semi competent
@davidhong1934
@davidhong1934 2 жыл бұрын
(cut to four Snipers doing the conga around an All-Father Heavy giving out sandwiches)
@birdiementlegen226
@birdiementlegen226 2 жыл бұрын
Subbed for quality content.
@supersandblueberry4104
@supersandblueberry4104 2 жыл бұрын
so at first, coming from your MvM Soldier tier list, I was VERY skeptical of this weapon placing above the black box or even stock, and your claim of the beggar's having 100% increased sustained DPS versus stock sounded completely off to me, so I decided to re-watch the math part of this video. You claim that the beggar's has a faster reload than stock, but according to the TF2 wiki and even your own video, you showed that while stock takes .92 seconds to reload a rocket, the beggar's takes 1.2 seconds. Admittedly this STILL leads to the beggar's having a higher sustained DPS, but according to my own math, that increase is 29%, not 100%. Then, my thought was "I don't think 29% more DPS is worth the accuracy and blast radius nerfs", but watching the section where you covered banner strategy, and how you could gather ammo AND activate a banner at the same time. This, combined with needing less credits for clip size, therefore giving you more credits to use on damage or crit canteens, made me realize that you really do have a point in your claim that the beggar's CAN be better than stock. TL:DR; your reload speed math was way off but the beggar's is still debatably better than stock, good and informative video
@WeezyTF2
@WeezyTF2 2 жыл бұрын
The point I was making is that max reload speed increases the Beggar's dps by 100% compared to a non-upgraded Beggars, not compared to Stock. Even still, there are Beggars vs Stock dps comparison videos that show the increase in fire-rate is far beyond 29% so even despite that mix-up I have no clue how you came to that number.
@supersandblueberry4104
@supersandblueberry4104 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeezyTF2 Ahh, that's fair, sorry for the confusion then. Also, I'm not an expert on TF2 math by any stretch, I was just running the numbers as I read from the wiki, comparing, with upgrades and reload times considered, the average time it takes to fire 1 rocket between stock and the beggar's. I might've gotten the numbers a bit off, buuut by doing all this math and analysis, I kinda proved myself wrong in thinking the beggar's couldn't possibly be THAT much stronger than stock, but it really is, and I thank you for that ^^;
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 2 жыл бұрын
Bro the beggars bazooka is Eminem's rocket launcher
@ricepolution
@ricepolution Жыл бұрын
Bro has more time on the beggars bazooka then me on soldier
@mikeCSLproductions
@mikeCSLproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Great Info, great commentary, Terrible graphs
@prithuneog5084
@prithuneog5084 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Reminds me of FSOAS, but with a functioning mic!! Keep up the great work!!!
@HolisticDistraction5
@HolisticDistraction5 Жыл бұрын
even though airstrike and base jumper is my fav combo, i would love to try beggar's someday as it looks kinda fun to use
@twisting_badger
@twisting_badger 2 жыл бұрын
6:18 Isnt this footage from technoblade but just faster?
@hector_campus
@hector_campus 2 жыл бұрын
With few updates (reload tier 2) becomes a nice spam rocket, the best weapon of soldier with buff banner. Airstrike with parachute it is also good(and badass with carteens and updates),but need a lot money to make him profitable.The best option is start with beggar bazooka and change with money back to airstrike in last rounds.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
I preffer airstrike bombarding usually. Still cant forgive Valve for removing redemploment on the base jumper chute. It should remain as new upgrade.
@ChumpstickCharlie
@ChumpstickCharlie 2 жыл бұрын
69,420 damage being a bunch? Breh I've gotten 125ish thousand damage with the brass beast
@Flatternschuchtern
@Flatternschuchtern 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the biggest unavoidable downside of beggar's at all! The one that doesn't let me ever use it... I have aussie rocket launcher with robots killed part
@dpear3
@dpear3 Жыл бұрын
You saying that hitting stuff at range with the beggars is worse than “making toast in the dark” made me realize how dumb it is that I’ve continued struggling to make toast at night for so long. Thank you for the valuable life lesson.
@Kilesfactor
@Kilesfactor 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they didn’t nerf this weapon so that we could still easily have max rockets in clip while jumping. It was so fun c:
@Dark_Slayer3000
@Dark_Slayer3000 Жыл бұрын
Some dum sheet (for the KZbin algorithm)
@WolfNinja474
@WolfNinja474 2 жыл бұрын
I've played beggars so much, i can barely use a normal rocket launcher in typical play. So, never had a problem in mvm
@Chik0r0
@Chik0r0 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! Could you do a guide on like how to upgrade every class in their best tier loadouts? I'm starting out in MvM tours of duty and I'm pretty ass atm :-)
@sergeychistov8162
@sergeychistov8162 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the Medic tier list! Awesome content!
@woop6727
@woop6727 2 жыл бұрын
it feels great to see good mvm guides pop up. you and underscore are great mvm channels. cant mention how many bad popular guides there are on youtube
@geovannyclaro3294
@geovannyclaro3294 2 жыл бұрын
Part 1 : a lot of numbers that my unga bunga brain dont understand
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 4 ай бұрын
I have stopped playing TF2 SO long ago, but man going against my buddy who was Spy as a Beggar's Soldier was just such fun. Nobody expects that heavy of a burst in DPS, or even a rocket jumping Beggar's Soldier
@co5micwaffle742
@co5micwaffle742 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if this is viable on Gear Grinder with the meta being so different. Is point blank beggar's dps and banner support a good enough trade-off for that third heavy?
@Brown95P
@Brown95P 2 жыл бұрын
This was pretty informative, even to a bb lover like myself (knew max reload speed upgrade felt more impactful than max firing speed, but not that it actually was *_that_* impactful), and the humor was just right in the balls. 420/69
@wildwilly356
@wildwilly356 2 жыл бұрын
the best weapon is actually trash
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 2 жыл бұрын
As a lover of the Beggars' and all its whacky garbage, I am DELIGHTED BY THIS INFORMATION
@Slavtron
@Slavtron 2 жыл бұрын
The airstrike is so fun when fully upgraded
@thegod9539
@thegod9539 Жыл бұрын
10:13 I always loved to be demoknight in that situation as with the incredible crit on kill and super speedy attack, i just destroyed those small boys except when they were crit soldiers or demos
@alexopia9638
@alexopia9638 2 жыл бұрын
Cow mangler is super fun in MvM you should try it
@dipwob
@dipwob 2 жыл бұрын
Tryhards coming to explain that the buff banner sound and backup sound are the wrong way around at the start of part three.
@nolle
@nolle 2 жыл бұрын
always used beggar's + conch and now I feel so smart... Thanks for confirming my massive IQ
@no1normal750
@no1normal750 2 жыл бұрын
about the long range inaccuracy, it's beggars bazooka just jump towards them! it's the single most mobile bazooka in the game not jumping with it is just a waste
@lukaskoda888
@lukaskoda888 2 жыл бұрын
6:18 Why did I instantly recognize that as Technoblade's famous "proof I don't autoclick".
@pingwinek_1337
@pingwinek_1337 2 жыл бұрын
The moment that you realize that this guy had to look at this naked dude before editing nuber on 💀
@VoidPelt
@VoidPelt 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing I always Conch!
@dr.suckfudge340
@dr.suckfudge340 2 жыл бұрын
The production on this is really good
@TinyZu
@TinyZu Жыл бұрын
Tfw you go through these vids in random order and notice this madlad put 3000 hours into this game in less than 2 years.
@IANDURBECK
@IANDURBECK 11 ай бұрын
I think that most players who don't use the beggar's (such as myself) don't do it out of ignorance. We're well aware of it. We just do it in favor of... Fun. I like the air strike for instance (even if it's a worse beggar's) but it has differences that just make it satisfying. I don't know if it's true for everyone, but personally the beggar's feels boring after a while.
@greentg10
@greentg10 2 жыл бұрын
im not an mvm player but glad i stumbled upon this vid
@Ultra289
@Ultra289 2 жыл бұрын
Sniper can make it bigger
@SalaComMander
@SalaComMander Жыл бұрын
9:07 I can't believe I've been maining Soldier for years and _this_ is how I find out that the Beggar's Bazooka _can_ get ammo from Dispensers, _as long as you're not actively holding it._ I thought it just couldn't get ammo from Dispensers at all!
@paskoracer_4644
@paskoracer_4644 2 жыл бұрын
The beggars shouldn’t be too hard to adjust to because “positioning? What’s that?”
@Felale
@Felale Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I played beggars soldier in MvM in 2013.
@jaysonata3211
@jaysonata3211 2 жыл бұрын
Your use of the Shovel Knight has me craving pizza bagels This is a good thing, I swear
@snazalicious_2485
@snazalicious_2485 2 жыл бұрын
Yo I just discovered your channel and it is amazing. You explain to things really well and are interesting to listen to. Amazing content!
@fracturedemperor
@fracturedemperor 2 жыл бұрын
personally, i prefer the cow mangler for infinite ammo
@GamingTopTen
@GamingTopTen 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't even know this was considered controversial by anyone.
@kylelangdon6724
@kylelangdon6724 Жыл бұрын
It must have taken some real restraint not to refer to using this weapon as “a real blast.”
@arslors
@arslors 2 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to say ammo refills when you said "if your engie sucks ass"
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