TF2: Spy Psychology - Engineer

#TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
Spy does NOT counter engineer, as many may lead you to believe, and here are the intricacies to that matchup...
0:00 Intro
1:30 Understanding The Tech
3:31 Basic Techniques
6:45 Strategize
12:47 Target Priority
17:33 Engineer's Tools
23:07 Outro
Thanks to @HintShot for providing the voice for the YER parts, and to @UncleDane for the cameo
Music used (in order of appearance):
Tune Fortress - Track 1
Team Fortress 2 - The Calm
Mario Kart 8 - Electrodrome
Luigi's Mansion 2 - Eerie Staircase
Luigi's Mansion 2 - Hostile Intrusion
Super Mario Wonder - Palace
Super Mario Wonder - Airship
Hi-Fi Rush - Production Destruction
Super Smash Bros Melee - Fever (Dr. Mario)
Psychonauts 2 - Cassie's Catacombs
Super Mario Wonder - Fungi Mines
Kevin MacLeod - Carefree
Team Fortress 2 - Red Bread
Deep Rock Galactic - A Matter of Skill and Ammunition
Ultrakill - Into The Fire
Chris Christodoulou - Cyclogenesis
Pizza Tower - Pepperman Strikes
Left 4 Dead - Witch
Pizza Tower - Hot Spaghetti
Pizza Tower - Pumpin' Hot Stuff
Tears of The Kingdom - Wind Temple
Hi-Fi Rush - Test Chamber
Super Mario Odyssey - Tostarena Ruins
Tears of The Kingdom - Phantom Ganon
Chris Christodoulou - They Might As Well Be Dead
Chris Christodoulou - Having Fallen, It Was Blood
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[@Jontohil2]

*left click to place on buildings Can't be a jonto video without some sort of typo or grammatical error

[@Prettyfunnystuff464]

I wanna be first reply

[@NymphieJP]

I did a double take when I heard that!

[@Hellbeckons]

great video as always

[@syndican_]

Its never been the same since i got hacked, but thanks for the tips on a game i might never play again…

[@Randomperson-tg5gx]

Truly a Jonto moment

[@imsad3923]

Just remember, Spy is a counter to engineer's buildings. Not the engineer himself.

[@wooden49]

“ENGINEER HAS A SHOTGUN” -Uncle Dane

[@catmastermoon5780]

Based

[@salt_factory7566]

Lazy purple “I have a shotgun”

[@Brown95P]

@@salt_factory7566 "I AM THE DEFENSE!"

[@Devilforce988]

well unless its a battleengi, then I'd say you do counter him cause without his buildings he is just a slower scout, still can kill but is out of his element. The danger shield doesnt stop a pyro from killing sniper but it is still countering his main role.

[@sneakyboi9598]

"Whatever you do, do not reveal all your techniques in a KZbin video, you fool , you moron" - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[@Grayson-tk5hn]

"sun tzu said that and i think he knows a little bit more about spy then you because HE INVENTED IT THEN PERFECTED IT SO NO MAN CAN BEAT HIM IN THE RING OF HONOR"

[@RealStarlo]

Technoblade?

[@Est.-.]

​@@RealStarlo Technoblade.

[@yes_and_so_what]

fly high

[@bestnameever1850]

everywhere i go i see his face

[@Pseudo_Notfound]

Jontohil2: "Spy has a gun!" Engineer: "You shoulda oughta brought more gun, son."

[@xfys0]

spy IS the gun??? (context: the comment originally said "Jontohil2: "Spy as a gun!" ")

[@biggusrichard1721]

@@xfys0"gun, creepin' around here"

[@ANIMESLAYER33]

"Hey boys its a gun!"

[@justafan9206]

​@@ANIMESLAYER33da' freakn' hardhat's a gun!

[@agentmanface6255]

THAT SPY IS A GUN

[@onesandzeros1338]

Spy vs Engineer is just bringing a knife to a gun fight.

[@hayond656]

Except Spy can also Bring a Gun But... Engineer has a much Better Gun still

[@AnimanDude-hk8kt]

But... Spy has a gun...

[@antekw4130]

Spy may have a gun, but does he have MORE GUN like engie?

[@Aqua_Duck]

Sapper

[@MK-2I]

​@@hayond656 Which can be disabled by sapper.

[@zolden37]

Now Look buddy. I am Engineer that means I solve problems and hate spies. But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy your videos cause I want to be good at Spy

[@vendepapas_7267]

But spy don’t use gun

[@zolden37]

@@vendepapas_7267 What... He has a revolver!!! SPY HAS A GUN!

[@vendepapas_7267]

Oh, right

[@ScoutFromTf2Real]

I'll bonk you both

[@user-wl9pm7ch8g]

So, you watch videos made to explain strategies to new engineers, to use that information to fight against them? That's basically what spies do irl

[@d-boi9785]

Jesus, those ads actually caught me off guard. The most accurate part is how I'm getting ads for a service I already use.

[@Looona_fan]

Yeah, I got my hand in the skip position.

[@propangasschnuffle]

SCPSL

[@Eric4bz]

That intro felt like a DC/Marvel comic cartoon adaptation from the 90s or something, like damn- Impressive work here.

[@Jontohil2]

It was supposed to

[@Wombli8781]

@@Jontohil2either way. Sick introduction

[@imaybestupid2045]

​@@Jontohil2 production quality is booming 🔥

[@jax3235]

Was going to make a joke about DMCA but realized the first 2 letters from each one spells DMCA with the C and M switched

[@buddhapest]

I was thinking cowboy bebop

[@nicholaserickson4851]

It’s all fun and games until Uncle Dane uses scripts to destroy the dispenser while he’s dead because in his words: “no destruction points and f**k you.”

[@DodgeThatAttack]

"I have a sapper therefore i must sap" Is a dangerous mentality ive seen all too much. No, running in and spamming the sapper will not work the 17th time in a row

[@cheezeebutter452]

I Spy therefore I Sap

[@zetaabsbs2329]

18th times the charm!

[@silverdededestruction2197]

It works if you know what you're doing and why you're sapping. If I sap and intend to survive, it's because I am intending to delay the engie while the rest of his team is busy, preventing him from pushing his defense forward. If I sap and I am expecting to die, that's because I know my team is ready to push but needs the extra support to ensure that it is a successful push

[@poyloos4834]

right!? like, if you REALLY want to destroy a sentry, play soldier or demo. Kill that sentry from a distance and LIVE afterwords FOR SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EFFORT

[@silverdededestruction2197]

@@poyloos4834 problem with soldier or demo sometimes is that they can lose to a sentry immediately if the Engineer knows a good spot that gets their sentry out of range. This wouldn't be much of a problem if it was one engineer, but if the enemy team has about 3-4 engineers, it's actually impossible to break through that defense because an engineer will be working on repairing the front sentry with assistance from the sentries at the back and hidden away, thus requiring a medic and good teamwork to pull through. Then the Pybros come in with their flamethrowers and push you away while their medics counter uber. Now it has gone from bad to worse. This isn't a rare scenario btw, this is a common one when the defending team is really desperate to win. This is where spy excels. Invisibility lets you get into their nest and feed your team info, or let you pull off a full deconstruction of the nest. The noise generated from constant fire helps you decloak..

[@bottleneck-5548]

Didn't expect the uncledane cameo

[@bandana5595]

it’s an engineer video what did you expect

[@alvr3461]

Can't be helped, Uncle Dane is THE engineer main.

[@FreeGameEnjoyer]

15:39 That bread sapper synced with the music

[@Jontohil2]

WAIT HOLY SHIT WHAT

[@itsyandl4280]

​@@Jontohil2 If it was intendent - thats an exquisite attention to details. If it wasn't - even the TF2 gods are on your side.

[@Skyliner_369]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@pizzeria_mayhem8736]

​@itsyandl4280 even he was shocked at how well it synced, I think he finna buy a lottery ticket

[@TheSin-O-Pride]

I laughed far harder at this because i did not now what to look for, at first when I read your comment XD

[@AlexDoubleAU]

Wrangler Engineers have a tendency to get tunnel vision REALLY easy Source: my brain fucking me up every time I equip the damn thing

[@nerath639]

Same with Spys sapping sentrys and trying to shoot it ... while i stand 1m beside them with a shotgun aimed at their face

[@jhunt7235]

I love it when engies do this lol

[@Skullhawk13]

Wrangler is like Sniper. In an expert’s hand it grinds the game to a stop, if used as VALVe envisioned you’re easy tunnel visioned free kills.

[@chaoticcar6231]

Heavy mentality

[@kR-qj7rw]

@@chaoticcar6231 no? Heavy has to be hyper aware all the time Its tunnel vision like a gibus sniper

[@tf2mercgaming]

I like the part where spy said “it’s spyin time” and spied all over the place.

[@2Scarhand]

10:49 This was genuinely, by far, the best guest appearance I have ever seen in a video. Period. There was a gimmick for years where the guest would "hack" into the host's video, give a canned line reading for their segment, then leave, but this is so fluid. The way Dane cuts into the "Spy has a gun" joke to talk about Engineer's combat capabilities, a favorite topic of his. The way both of you swap back and forth reading the script, explaining the situation from each class's perspective. The way each line flows into the next as one well written script read by two people. And how you finish off with in sync-disdain for Random Crits. It's so fucking perfect. Fantastic work.

[@luthfihar3211]

15:44 Jontohil: "noone would do this" Fat (Boss baby) magic: "objection!"

[@minibotas9496]

as an engie main I always C O N S O O M these spy vs engineer videos, no matter who's aimed for, because these two classes are SO GOOD WHEN PITTED AGAINST EACHOTHER. It's a nevereding plannification tango, both sides trying their dammed hardest to not become vulnerable to the other, using literally every tool they have in both their metaphorical and non-metaphorical arsenal to even the field.

[@JanVP1]

So true, instead of the dead ringer+kunai nonsense. Jumping about like it's Celeste or Super meat boy.

[@MCrex007]

15:43 Fatmagic has won thousands of games off dispenser picks alone!

[@VloiVo]

The intro was truly a engineer moment of all time. I loved it. The One You Upset is also funnily stupid lol. Also imagine Uncle Dane vs Jontohil 😂

[@thesmileman6931]

The soldier got fucking jaunted. Don't be fooled, it was longer than you think. Do you really think disrupting quantum physics to teleport someone to a location kilometres away takes a fucking second?

[@theweirdskeleton]

„What!? Give it the program!“

[@Rylainecchi]

"Longer than you think, Dell! It's longer than you think!"

[@zaknork9282]

"It's eternity in there"

[@Roger00100]

"Longer than you think, it's Longer than you think, Longer than you think"-soldier "This is why we have rules"-engineer

[@NormalGuy985]

Emesis blue reference eh?

[@zolden37]

I love you brought over youtubers like Hintshot and Uncledane! It was very unexpected and very funny!

[@LukeHasNoRights]

What you also need to remember is that SPY HAS A GUN

[@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak]

ENGINEER HAS A SHOTGUN

[@TrixterTheFemboy]

I HAVE A SHOTGUN!!

[@Devilforce988]

@@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak that has random spread and bad at medium to long range

[@Anarqism]

I HAVE A PUN

[@aidansroadams5328]

​@@Devilforce988But good damage close range

[@davidpettigians]

You know what i really like about these videos? The fact that you can see the improvement in every direction, especially the animations/effects

[@thatguystar817]

I never thought in a million years that i would hear into the fire in a TF2 video, and that Jontohil and Uncle Dane would high five

[@theawesome6X]

patch N°420 04_20_2024 - Jontohil2 buffs: • 80% production value increase

[@heckingplaybot7191]

"Use a knife, and if that dont work, use more knife" -TF2 engi if he was spy

[@awesomeness9824]

Jokes on you I have a keybind to say "Dispenser down push last" that I use whenever I take out a dispenser.

[@p24p14]

Important thing I think you missed with the Frontier Justice: If the engie whiffs his shot, but still some pellets hit and you don't die instantly, the CRITICAL HIT! marker above your head stays visible even when cloaked, so don't overstay your welcome if the engie doesn't 1 tap you

[@birdbutnotfurry]

the thing is, is that jonto actually used to main engi why the fuck do i have 226 likes?

[@exittierone]

The engie main to spy main pipeline is real it happened to me

[@birdbutnotfurry]

@@exittierone just learnt that the helldivers II main theme is called "A Cup of Liber-Tea"

[@nneykobar_hali]

Amasing ​@@birdbutnotfurry

[@Linkman8912]

​@@birdbutnotfurryidk how that's relevant but great. Also, I play engi and spy!

[@AzureAleYT]

I actually went spy to engie, instead of the other way around

[@Pudding404]

All the engineer's buildings can also be taken advantage of by spy in some way. You can surf any sentry if you're advanced enough and the enemy team isn't immune to the level 3 rockets, dispensers are obviously support tools that can also be leverage to trickstab off of and teleporters can be the perfect traps and can also be jumped off of. Though aside from those points, it's unreal how well designed these two classes are in accordance with each other.

[@tylerbreau4544]

What do you mean by "the enemy team isn't immune to the level 3 rockets"? Sentry can not friendly fire anyone except its own engineer. Period. And even then, it's not just rockets, it's also the bullets.

[@jhunt7235]

One of my FAVORITE tricks is using the sound of the buildings upgrading or teleporter useage to mask the sound of my cloak watch.

[@Something_Kyle]

You know it’s a good engineer-related video when Uncle Dane also provides commentary in it

[@B.L.U.S]

17:17 my favorite part in the video Sums up 50% of the moments the entrance is sapped either if i am spy or engi

[@CaptainCFalcon]

That part in particular got a hearty guffaw out of me. Especially cause I knew it was coming, so his words of "there is no secret third option" were even funnier.

[@Cytex07]

As always, the Spy Psychologist nails it once again. Even if a Spy is my destined rival as an Engineer main, watching a video about fighting Engineer is still a fun experience.

[@cheaperying5672]

This video is so well done, I love the editing and the effects! I genuinely laughed so many times while watching this video and I rarely do so ❤

[@kenasilo1038]

Engi and Spy is basically the two sides of the same coin

[@ReekidReal]

Great video! Personally, i dont think the 12 uncut minutes of you calling all people from texas violent homicidal maniacs who are a danger to society needed to be added, but it definitely persuaded me into your radical beliefs! Keep it up 🙏💯

[@ballsenthusiast]

Based

[@llamacraft6678]

2:04 "I saw it! Longer than you think! Longer than you think medic! Longer than you think!"

[@HerOwnKnife]

I just gotta say, the quick sfm cutaways add *so much* to the viewing experience, your videos really wouldn't be the same without them. Great job as always. I dont even play tf2 but still watch this, that must mean *something,* right?

[@accidentallyskilled]

Aw, hell, y'all done gone and gave that sneaky rat a damn tutorial.

[@slayer_of_hell]

15 seconds in and the animations are stunning as always!

[@joshuaabramson4380]

I really liked how the music for the intro felt like a hybrid between James Bond style music and Western music, another great video

[@MegaJani]

Didn't expect the wheelchair fanart at the end lmao

[@comiksmaker9758]

2:10 ita eternity in there

[@Coppersstuff_YT]

"It's longer than you think"

[@Luigi_spaghetti_GOD]

I've seen the other side

[@ShockedTaiLung]

24:10 the epic outro montage instantly cutting to you in a wheelchair right when the music drops has me so dead 💀

[@pohatunuva3771]

I think you're underestimating the disepenser's importance. While it isnt usually the priority, there ARE definitely times when its the one thing keeping a team in the lead, such as when defending on last, where a large group of power classes are clustered around it. In these instances, the sentry is often located elsewhere as a last ditch defense and the teleporter isnt a factor. Its important to be aware that sometimes, that dispenser IS the thing keeping you from pushing, and taking it out at the perfect moment can completely disrupt the enemy team.

[@X-Cite69]

The “Understanding the tech” section starting with “electrodrome” as the music is amazing.

[@emojimovieisgood]

Secret third option: teleports staright to you when you sap the teleporter with eureka effect

[@kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439]

0:03 this intro is as to be expected, INCREDIBLE

[@CielWingy]

Oh lord, the editing and production of this video is off the charts, the amount of time spent must be unreal Thank you so much for making this!

[@sneaky_xd]

The editing on this one was insane! Absolutely loved it!

[@foxboxboxfox]

i love every single animation, transition, and little quirk- audio included! this has such high production value, i'm loving watching them get better and better. nice work :)

[@MINICUBANT]

15:12 That's why i have a bind that says in team chat "SENTRY DOWN" , it's great when you see at least 1 teammate who had read chat and push to destroy all the remaining. Also , an additional strategy that can be really useful , is that if your team is really aggressive but can't do anything because of a weird placed sentry kept by a good engineer , you should know that the Enforcer is really powerful to destroy sapped sentry because it passes through the resistance given by the sapper , and the first hit deals a lot of damage. It can sometimes work to just focus so hard on the sentry that you destroy it faster than the engineer kills you.

[@Helpames]

The suspense that the last Spy Psychology will have on production wise and topic wise keeps on rising every day!

[@thegiantegg9672]

It's really cool seeing your editing and writing style change over the course of this series. Great work with this one! Looking forward to whatever you decide to put out next!

[@trimblecat]

I love how well edited and clean your videos are. Keep it up! :)

[@ylwlime]

Ah yes my favorite Pizza Tower OST "Pimpin' hot stuff" (The Description)

[@SPY_fromtf2_]

Spah sappin' mah sentry

[@cat_03tv]

I'm very much looking forward to the videos on the weapons & tools in the 'saving for a different video' basket. Seriously though, I absolutely love how the other YTbers were implemented into this video. Definitely the highest production value I've seen yet here. Mad props to ya

[@patryksg]

This is so well edited. I can tell a lot of effort went into it.

[@Andrewstown]

bro wtf, why was the ad so well made, did you study youtube ads LOL

[@Srb2Nika20]

As a enginer main I like this video a lot and I love this channel and want to be good as spy Enginer gaming and spy gaming Edit:OMG HINTSHOT AND UNCLE DANE IN THIS VIDEO THIS IS THE BEST TF2 CROSSOVER EVER!!!

[@Icyendermanlel]

It is downright impressive to see this content show up so quickly and with such pristine quality, and the quick debuts & collabs with other tf2 creators was amazing!

[@RisingChaosWriting]

Having only found your stuff recently, it stands out a lot how much your videos have improved. The effects and editing are so snappy and entertaining, they look great too. They really match up with the excellent voicework

[@mix3k818]

Good job explaining that spy is not a hard counter to engies!

[@dr.unventor]

As an engineer main I can confirm I am watching this so I can keep destroying spies Edit: This is going to make spies a lot more annoying

[@enigmaschallenger]

This is overall a very good tutorial for Spy vs Engineer. Explains the mechanics and matchups that’s digestible for new players while being a refresher for older ones. I love how much effort you put into the graph design for this video too, it sells the feeling of the Hitman:James Bond analytical side of spy, which transitions into a mechanical gear motif for the engineer tool section. Amazing work all around for everyone involved in this project!

[@slop4308]

your editing and pacing had gotten so good youve become one of my fav creators, this is prob my fav vid from you keep up the amazing work man

[@Dinnerboneearthmover]

You had the chance to shorten “spy psychology” to “spychology” and you missed it

[@AntiR2525]

Dead meme

[@user-pf5ml5gq3g]

He said he didn't want to do that.

[@pizzeria_mayhem8736]

Yeah, he already mentioned that in the Disguise followup at the end

[@angelindenile]

The editing is amazing! You just keep getting better. Laughed out loud so many times, especially during the Uncle Dane cameos. If the spy is engineer's foil, then he is sniper's rival. Just a thought I had while watching.

[@GuestEightTwoSixFour]

Your editing has been evolving over the days, keep it up!

[@EndicLive]

Just wannq say this editing is top notch mate, love it

[@MadSwedishGamer]

I just want to say, your editing is really good! All the animations and everything look great, and it helps a lot with staying engaged with the video.

[@xVirtualFams]

Didn’t expect any upload today but I’ll always be hype when there is one

[@Anarqism]

0:08 meet the amazing pyro

[@aro_ger_]

I really enjoy watching these Videos. Not only are they well Edited but also super helpful and fun to watch!

[@mighuIDV]

production quality is crazy as always. love your work bud!

[@blakeneese171]

Genuinely one of the best video editing I've ever seen, love the video.

[@smo1_boi0]

Amazing intro, keep up the good work! I thought you stopped with making youtube vids, until I found this. All I want to say is thank you for your useful information.

[@vitvs]

Fantastic editing, loved the depth of the guide too!

[@ajmickey6747]

the editing in this is so great i find myself coming back to rewatch it a lot lol and its only been 3 days

[@matheusrios4223]

Bro what was that intro? I loved every frame of it! Also miss opportunity to use the engineer disguise mask at 1:22 but everything else is gold

[@Lucanoptek]

Okay this needs to blow up, the editing and content are GREAT

[@Danodan94]

RoR and RoR2 OST go haaaaard. Good call for this video, and a fantastic video at that. It's really cool to see you as a relatively new TF2 channel getting respect and recognition from one of the biggest and best veterans, Uncle Dane. Great job both of you! Your production quality is incredible.

[@hunterlyre]

Your editing is superb!

[@Action35]

Your music choice for these videos is always great

[@KeinGopnik]

the creativity to keep making these is astonishing! Thank you for giving me something to watch while i eat at night, truly a life saver.

[@Squabsss]

your music taste slaps and your editing gets better with every video i swear. great job on this!

[@Virtahep0]

One of the greatest intros I've ever seen in a tf2 youtube video, kudos to you!

[@pizrub]

10:51 thank you uncle Dane

[@wr3nche5]

hintshot and dane cameos were just a no-brainer here, i'm so GLaD you got those guys in. they're the first 2 tftubers i started watching for gameplay tips, too

[@PatitoSkull]

Your videos are the thing that got me interested in spy. The editing level is off-charts... well done! Keep it up. You got a new sub.

[@Brevly1]

This is actually so useful dude. I always mess up around engineers, I tried to keep all the advice in this video in mind and holy... it worked. Although of course, I was killed by them still, it definitely lessened! Thanks, Jonto.

[@ComFurt]

Easily one of the best tf2 videos I've ever seen. Great info and absolutely incredible editing. Very well done!

[@D3LUX_deltan]

Your editing never fails to amaze me. love your vids.

[@kanekyrocryptic7853]

Holy shit, first time watching your channel, the editing is so impressive, instant sub

[@JanVP1]

Wow, excellent video; content, editing, presentation - good job! As an engineer main, the best lines when dominating a spy: "If y'all had more gadgets for killin' , you wouldn't need so many for hidin'.", "I just beat on your sneaky ass like a mule, boy!", "Now just stop tryin' ta mess with my contraptions."

[@satoparadise1706]

this is the best spy yt channel i ever watch so far ngl

[@an-animal-lover]

I think this is my favorite intro you have done

[@soupcan]

i wasnt there when the channel had 10 subs or anything but having followed for about a year or two and seeing your production quality go up so much has been pretty nice, hope you can be uncle dane 2. your vids have been super educational even as someone with many years n thousands of hours put