[TF2] The Complete Bhop Guide

The Bhopping Guide.
Discord server - / discord
======Time stamps
Chapters
What is Bhopping? - 00:38
How Bhopping Works in TF2 - 1:36
Bhop uses in TF2 - 2:18
How to Bhop - 4:32
Bhop Tips - 8:35
Bhop oddites - 10:25
Ending - 12:49
======Maps
Bhop_exist - gamebanana.com/mods/74636
Tr_walkway - gamebanana.com/mods/74812
you can play this on a community server or get from steam workshop as well
(if bots not spawn type into console
"sv_cheats 1"
"sv_allow_point_servercommand always"
"retry")
jump_yump - gamebanana.com/mods/73383
============Binds
"bind mwheeldown +jump"
"cl_showpos 1" - check velocity
================== music
Music used from various crash bandicoot games
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===== updates VVV
To get Bhop to work offline - VVV
5/23/22 - 10:45 use the command "net_fakelag" and and any number between 15 and 25. (found 20 is most best for consecutive Bhops). The higher the number will simulate laggier servers and vice versa.
11/21/22 - When also in public servers if bhop is not working and you do not want to rejoin. switching classes and moving around then switching back works sometimes as well but not as reliable as reconnecting to the server.

[@riddyrid]

omg finally someone makes a bhopping tutorial, soundsmiths one is good but dosent have detail thank you man

[@colatf2]

Yea I remember first learning bhops and watching soundsmith’s video and it was just like “get good at rocket jumping and bhop is easy.”

[@apealican]

@@colatf2to be honest his bhoping aren’t stellar the most ive seen him do is 3

[@lordvgames]

In the past, I could've sworn that any class would go a tiny bit faster with bhopping, nice to see it confirmed-ish

[@spoicyfish]

Erk on his way to your house

[@speedcuber6644]

Erk bhop to ur house*

[@ezylynn1419]

This video was beautifully executed, encompassing all of the instructions and helpful tips for a beginner to start their bhopping journey. You really outdone yourself on this one, Erk! You deserve a good break.

[@erk.365]

No breaks right now, just gas 😎

[@SUPDOZ]

12:30 this is called an edgebug, where you surf on the very last pixel of an object, negating fall damage. very hard to pull off intentionally in tf2 servers because of the high tickrate. but this technique can be pulled off on any object in tf2

[@Prisoner]

Thanks for the video Man, the amount of time u spent doing it was definitely worth it

[@elbow_xd]

tip: this is extremely hard to do on offline servers with no ping, so if youre practicing offline, put "net_fakelag 30" in the console to simulate artificial ping (so its easier to hit)

[@C40enjoyer]

Ty, very much :D

[@kyo666oyk]

This needs to be higher. Let's you practice the maps you play the most without all the chaos. I accidently discovered this while trying to get my garden timing down I thought I would try this command. Started hitting bhops all of a sudden and was confused until I realized the correlation.

[@718vox]

Its here! Been waiting some time for this erk, thank you :)

[@brisky3252]

Very good and comprehensive video, good work

[@jake...]

Helpful video! I instantly liked when I heard the crash bandicoot ost!

[@WFOnaga]

This actually helped me, thanks mate!

[@d7-ek1qf]

bro gave us therapy on the tips

[@PhantomKing17041]

The smaller the technique, the more versatile and flexible it can be in practice, so thank you for makimg this detailed but easy to follow and apply tutorial!

[@MerelyMiserable]

12:31 this happens because of how close you were to the edge of that wood wall you did a edge slide which sometimes causes lack of fall damage

[@kingdomofhearts9999]

Edgebug b like

[@Wolf-px9jx]

Been looking everywhere for a bhop tf2 tutorial

[@ShubaDuck]

Thank you for the tutorial! helped me a lot!

[@erk.365]

Glad I can help!

[@mynameisntcreative6286]

The long awaited guide

[@jakubpietowski4795]

At 12:31 you did a type of bounce hop where you can uncrouch and jump in the same game tick to negate fall damage. No one really knows about it since it requires very specific conditions.

[@blob5907]

a bounce hop as opposed to a hop where you dont bounce. two words with identical meanings. The term your searching for is Jump Bug.

[@arslors]

Came for the bhop tutorial, stayed for crash bandicoot songs 😎

[@PineappleSquuid]

Your editing and quality is incredible. Remember me when you are famous!

[@RealNick04]

Great video. Love how you did the research into this tutorial bc the other ones were missing a lot of info. As a Medic main, I think bhopping has its uses for other classes. Also bhopping with the air strike is easier if you practice a lot. Here’s a list of useful examples with every class from personal experience : Scout: You can’t no matter how hard you try. Double jump interferes Soldier: low hp with the escape plan and the air strike and market gardener examples you mentioned Pyro: Powerjack or detonator jump and Powerjack bhopping combo Demoman: useless unless you’re a Demoknight with a 4 head Eyelander Heavy: GRU or being whipped by a soldier on ur team Engineer: only useful if escaping or combine with a wrangler jump Medic: perfect for dodging, escaping or whenever ur healing a Scout Sniper: kinda useless unless u rocket surf and then hit a few bhops Spy: Taking dmg while using DR or using big earner Another thing to mention is that Gravel Pit and Granary has a few bhopping spots that are rlly useful. This is a great vid man.

[@erk.365]

Yea although I'm pretty experienced with bhopping I made sure to do extra research for this video. You can always learn something regardless your level

[@RealNick04]

@@erk.365 You're not wrong abt learning new things. I forgot to mention that bhopping with the tomislav as a Heavy works and its a common strat that a lot of heavy mains use

[@guscox9651]

The fall damage thing is quite rare but really good to know

[@eggflavoredsoda]

for jetpack pyro bhopping, you can still stomp on people even though your not midair

[@jbt115]

negating fall damage from a bhop is called a jumpbug very similar to a bhop but its when your uncrouch at the same time as bhoping u womt take fall damage. it only works at certain heights though

[@mahuba2553]

what about edgebugging brothar?!

[@jbt115]

@@mahuba2553 thats a whole differnt tech

[@yoshikagekira1974]

Thx master i learned it

[@svresh]

Holy shit I started today barely able to hit single bhops on tr_walkway and literally a couple of quick drills bhopping from the wall to the ramp and now I can hit quadruple and quintuple bhop gardens! Time for hightower babyyyy. Nice vid man ❤️

[@erk.365]

Super glad to hear that! Makes me happy. Kill it man!

[@infinite_recursion]

Great guide! Have you ever heard of this tf2 mod called open fortress? If not you should definitely check it out cuz I feel like you would dominate every server you’re in since bhopping is an actual movement mechanic in the game and you’re basically a bhopping god in tf2

[@angrysqueakingteapot]

the spy in the second clip just t-posed

[@blandragny9152]

When you don't take fall damage, it's probably because you've edge bugged off a pebble or some tiny little bit of the map that otherwise has no effect on the game but on most maps, there are some little oddities like that. You don't have to bhop to utilise them.

[@blacklight683]

1:24 me with 10fps:alright ama head out

[@coolepic519]

btw, if you have mantreads on, they continue making the falling noise if you do your bhops correct

[@CHEH_tf]

Erk upload! POOOOOOOOOOOOOG!

[@dr.killakill960]

VOICE OMG You sound beautiful Also this very well needed and you did it very well You are the best in Bhopping in the world so learning by you is an honor I love you and keep Bhopping Also hope you get more views

[@erk.365]

I'd think otherwise of my voice but thx lol. It's a process but this year I'm way more focused. Way more then montages on the way

[@dr.killakill960]

@@erk.365 I’m excited to see them

[@leonardo9259]

Least bromantic tf2 player

[@LUMINOL697]

12:30 I've encountered the same things it's because of the train rails. If you go down fast enough and try to bhop on them u can edgebug for a split second and negate fall damage. It's really weird .

[@erk.365]

I suspected it was something like that but I said hey why not mention it

[@MerelyMiserable]

As a total 100% deff pro at bhopping this video makes me happy

[@kvykimo]

epic video

[@JohnDoe-pn6qx]

Dude, you make me want to play Crash Bandicoot now!

[@C0nlaed]

nice

[@sinther]

damn i was wondering why i couldnt hit any bhops in walkway, as soon as i used the net_fakelag command i started chaining like 5 bhops like it was nothing, guess i have the talent

[@CmoiFlo]

gud vid

[@CatBoyGaming23]

Very helpful but too many engineers in Hightower to try this out 😂

[@speedgleb9389]

As a portal 2 speedrunner I can confirm this is how you bhop in source games

[@jomocsg]

the chad crash bandicoot ost enjoyer

[@KaledYouTube]

how can you tell at 11:50 that you are hitting the bhops right or not? is there a sure way to tell without having the MG out to test if you get crit or not? also at 12:41, can you actually get an MG crit if you can't hear the woosh sound from the Rocket Jumper? Thanks for the help

[@monke1077]

do you use your middle finger to jump or do u just switch between m1 and mwheeldown with pointer finger?

[@kryptineZ]

I think Ill just stick to the rocket jumper Cuz Im gonna break my keys before I even begin to get the hang of bhopping

[@firedragon1990]

Dope video! Thanks for the tips! I think I've been experiencing not being able to bhop in offline and it was driving me crazy, do you know of any fix for it besides just going to online??

[@erk.365]

Yea I posted the fix in the description and Pinned comment

[@firedragon1990]

@@erk.365 dope ty!

[@dethpooldeadpool6203]

This makes fat scout more meta

[@ProNoob-vt4sb]

i know this isn't as related but what's the program you used to show what buttons you are pressing on your keyboard at 6:30

[@gluhbirnebirne2001]

Two questions, does ist make a difference when having other configs. For example different interp settings. And the other question is if it is weird that i have the Feeling that on different servers there is a slightly different timing needed, up to the point, that it doesnt even work.

[@blob5907]

how can bunnyhopping be frame perfect if all source games are tick based?

[@darkknightdawn1592]

i can bhop without doing the rokcte jump but bwhen i do i cant do it off the ground like cansomebody explain why this doesnt work

[@Prisoner]

Any thoughts on this?: I've experimented with macros/loops which spam the jump action, and it looks to me that no matter how perfect is the synch between jumping and being close to the ground, there is still a big chance the server won't register your bhop, and this chance appears to change both between different servers and in a same server over time.

[@DetectiveDeuche]

there is a server side "WAIT" command that stops you spamming inputs with commands servers with this command disabled will have no problem with a loop/macro but any valve server will be inconsistent af, this will be because you may get lucky and your jump will perfectly sync up with the wait timer, other times it will not. This is why it will appear to change in the same server over time and different servers. You are infinitely better off learning the actual bhop technique. Hope this helped.

[@Prisoner]

@@DetectiveDeuche thanks! that was really helpful, but I forgot to say that I also have experimented doing the same thing but using mwheeldown too (I always bhop using mwheel, the macros where just an experiment) and the same phenomenon still occurs, I can also say that macros aren't of much help, they are similar to using the wheel in terms of bhop success. For example in private lan servers both using macros and mwheeldown I get the same average consecutive bhops (like 8 consecutive bhops average) In the end macros might be useful for people who suck at using the mwheel, but as you get better using macros isn't really an advantage and it might even be worse because it makes it harder to control when and how to bhop , so I doubt pros use macros

[@DetectiveDeuche]

@@Prisoner for sure, I also noticed if you do more then about 8 inputs a second the game cant handle it and will just sease registering jump inputs all together so I find mwheel useful but if you go too fast it'll basically be worse than just jumping with space

[@Prisoner]

@@DetectiveDeuche wow that's really interesting, how did u find out how many inputs the game handles per second?

[@DetectiveDeuche]

@@Prisoner I dont know the exact number for certain but it seems to be around 8-10 inputs before the server gives up, you can try yourself by going on a server with sv_cheats 1 and doing "host_timescale 0.5" or "host_timescale 0.25" and see how many jump inputs you can manage while bhopping before the game stops you being able to jump for me the sweetspot seems to be 9 inputs or less provided my timing was good always seems to work but more than that is where it starts to cut out, 15 and above was almost always too many but I have no idea where the hard limit is.

[@guyswhat_isthepoint_0flife4141]

What are you movement keybinds if you don’t understand what I mean I mean how do you move right, left, forward and etc.

[@N0MAD_B]

"good ping helps too" me: darn

[@unitedchunk]

At 12:26 you did a jumpbug not a bhop. They are simillar but jumpbugs are way harder to time since you have to jump in your uncrouch animation as your landing (tick perfect almost)

[@senero3121]

My fingers are saying: HOL´ UP

[@Zampkrop]

I can ****** bhop just when I do it with the rocket jumper, I cant hear ANYTHING and I still don't get the crit.

[@imgonnamwamwayou]

0:16 was that spy t posing

[@stewart950]

for some reason when i bhop i keep my momentum and i can gain speed but i dont keep my rocket jump with market gardener

[@colatf2]

When bhopping, should I hold w or just tap it or only press a and s?

[@erk.365]

You only want to use it to walk forwards to start the bhop(samething with rocket jumping). When your bhopping you dont want to use W to move or itll mess up the directionin which your tryna go, so only use your strafe keys (left and right) when you get a running start and that will keep your speed as you jump. progression 2 in the video is how'd you do it

[@Lerre]

12:36 could be an edge bug on the rail

[@Thane22]

I have a top time on tempus on the jump_yump bonus and I am still so bad at actually applying that skill lol

[@IcedCore420]

good vid but what tf are your key binds???

[@seva7500]

Yeah like wtf. He was air strafing using A and S. bros clinically insane

[@uncheckable_vibe6891]

10:39 can you fix this by setting your server to "sv_lan 0"?

[@jbrnsek]

Your binds scare me

[@erk.365]

I'm just gaming 1000 years in the future

[@GasPasserGaming]

I’m assuming that you don’t have a QWERTY keyboard because F is not bound to forward normally

[@Random0901]

is it possible to learn it only with normal jump space bar ?

[@Mister_Marcin]

Bro you almost Made the Polish soldier

[@bigbraintime3699]

Quick question not about bhopping, how did you have accessories on the bots?

[@erk.365]

This was on a community server with pluggins for that im guessing. I Said in vid that you can't bhop garden bots offline so I went on a online server for that part

[@stinkysoup2884]

Is the number on the mousewheel of your display the amount of times you scroll down with your mouse in a row?

[@erk.365]

when I go to scroll down my mwhweel, that is the amount of scrolls it is detecting I'm doing with 1 scroll. But that amount doesn't matter, only thing that matters is the first scroll you do, the rest don't even register as inputs.

[@stinkysoup2884]

@@erk.365 Thanks, good to know!

[@DuviBlast]

why it's better to use an other bind for jumping ?

[@ladisloved]

Is it a glitch on your screen keyboard emulation or you really use S as walk right and D as walk back? +F as atack and Shift also does something. What a strange thing. Are your fingers broken?

[@erk.365]

my binds would scare you and yes probably

[@hinlau8087]

my mouse wheels r broken so what can I bind?

[@dr3b3n69]

Can you market garden while bhopping with crouch jump like you do but only when using crouch jump

[@erk.365]

You can crouch while in the air but you can't hold crouch as the same time your trying to jump it won't work. As your in the air you can do anything movement wise but you do a regular jump to bhop and in the air you can crouch

[@kreg9637]

bunnyhop working when we pressing ctrl?

[@RevolutionaryOven]

What bothers me is I see people still do it to this day, so I know it's still possible, but I've been trying ever since I first learned how to rocket jump years ago and have not been able to trigger it once. I'm of the belief that there's some secret method that just nobody's talking about, handed out under the table among soldier mains.

[@Wolf-px9jx]

Do you think bhoppng perfectly as a roll out from spawn actually gives you a speed advantage?

[@erk.365]

Definitely 100%

[@Wolf-px9jx]

@@erk.365 Alright, keeping on the grind then c: Any good way to know if your bhops are efficient/working other than market gardener flying sounds? I usually try to look at teammates that are a similar speed class and try to pass them

[@pyrobytee]

whats your cl_interp

[@hados8850]

guy uses s key to strafe left

[@quintonneal2881]

Why do you have right bound to s? Kinda weird, you’re the expert tho lol

[@Mycatkeepstryingtodestroymybed]

is bhoping random?

[@sanker20]

Yo man, what consol isto unbind the mwheel thing, It wont unbind wjth this command: unbind mwheel + jump.

[@erk.365]

Type unbind mwheel(up/down)( depends which one you binded) then it will go back to nothing

[@sanker20]

@@erk.365 i solved it thanks

[@aerialhero2523]

what map is that with the logs?

[@erk.365]

What time in the video?

[@aerialhero2523]

@@erk.365 00:43

[@aSmallGreenDot]

your move right key is s??

[@avocadothecat]

So bhop is only feasable to do with binding mw?

[@airstrikegaming8263]

No, you can practice with any key but it's MUCH more harder to time.

[@avocadothecat]

@@airstrikegaming8263 alright gotcha. I'll try do it with mw. Me with my 500h in the game isn't that good in the game anyways

[@b_mbyz]

bro why is ur d key backwards and ur s key right what

[@weedsoldier5121]

i know this is too late and maybe you won't read the comment or anwser it but when i finally learend how to bunnyhop and tried to market gardener some bots in tr walkway i don't get crits it's just normall melee damage no matter how hard i try it's always the same damage no crits idk why it's not working plz tell me why it's notwork with me ?.

[@erk.365]

Check Pinned comment / description

[@weedsoldier5121]

@@erk.365 thx u bro it's worked you are life saver

[@besteve_2472]

How do you make the bots use different weapons?

[@erk.365]

That was on a community server. So they probably used pluggins

[@besteve_2472]

@@erk.365 Ah okay thanks!

[@fareesakeem8207]

why does he sometimes press S? i thought bhop only requires a and d. anyone can explain this to me?

[@erk.365]

Yea I don't play with normal controls lol. That's why I said left/right/forwards so you'd understand better

[@hugoefekandirmaz9180]

guys can someone tell me a bhop practice server plz?

[@at_l]

step 1: spacebar step 2: profit

[@ClaireTheSaltyHypocrite2309]

what on gods green earth are these bindings. ASDF INSTEAD OF ADSW?????? WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING??? FNF?????

[@Potgaming450]

how do i reset my key?

[@elliotjones3503]

Why is the s your right key

[@thecringeslayer4897]

5:39 how unbind?

[@placek7125]

2:21 i did it once as spy. Half luck half skill. sucks i didnt screenshot it becoase i got killed in a second

[@jamalzatar2599]

How i delt bind mwheeldown +jump Return it as it was

[@erk.365]

Type unbind mwheeldown

[@jamalzatar2599]

@@erk.365 think you

[@jamalzatar2599]

@@erk.365 It remains the same and nothing has changed

[@jamalzatar2599]

​@@erk.365 Why doesn't the weapon go down when you move the mouse to the bottom?

[@yKyzerr]

"F" is your walk foward key?

[@xaviercatulong4558]

how do you un bind it tho?

[@erk.365]

Type "unbind mwheeldown" or which ever button you binded and it'll be no command attached to it anymore