Benelli M4 Burndown Ep. 1: What Happened?

[@ShaneABaker]

Imagine buying a 2k shotgun, throwing several hundred dollars worth of accessories, and having the accessories cause the gun to fail...

[@UmamiPapi]

Peak performance.

[@FVPS904]

Just buy a Mossberg for a third of the price

[@InexorWoW]

I've stuck with the OG configuration, though the clamp on QD and flashlight mount that replaces the spring clip and sling loop in the foward end seems to be the only accessory you really need. Replacement handguards outside of US produced replicas (they fit far tigher than the factory ones) seem to be the goat.

[@b0llos]

should have left it stock config

[@ml1754]

1301 TAC LE burns everything w/o issue...freaking animal of a shotgun.

[@TheMrASSTASTIC]

When Clint said "thank you", he sounded so sweet, like a sweet shotgun grandpa. I need a hug.

[@darksu6947]

🤗

[@ayemay2030]

Right after explaining how #6 birdshot will “dick’em up” lmao

[@TheMrASSTASTIC]

@@ayemay2030 lol, right.

[@bobshaw07]

I had a similar experience with my M4. After installing a FFT 7 round mag tube and the “extra power” magazine spring they highly recommended, I got at 1 failure every magazine. I messed around with it for months until I realized their magazine spring was garbage and too weak. After putting the Benelli spring back in, it’s back to 100% reliable.

[@brandond5592]

Are you talking about the Wolf spring?

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

If it’s expensive and you can’t get it reliable as you want it optioned, ehhh that equals no good.

[@zm1786]

​@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 yes paying more money for n inferior product makes it less good

[@Gadsden-rn2wl]

Makes me think of what Clint said in regards to Glocks and people modding them. Stock Glocks are reliable but once you start modding things the reliability goes down.

[@pdog109]

I had to use the wolf spring because with the stock spring i could only get 6 shells in, the 7th one would get in about 95% in. With the wolf spring i could get the 7th shell in all the way and had no problems.

[@alchemistTi]

That tube coming loose caused all those problems, including the bubba stick falling off. It's held in place by the hand guard which is held in place by a properly tightened tube.

[@vietnamrebel]

The factory tube needs a lot of heat applied to break the loctite. I suspect no loctite, too little loctite, or the wrong loctite was used on the replacement tube here.

[@Manco65]

​@@vietnamrebel agreed...Permatex brand thread locker high temp. Just make damn sure you got everything the way you like BEFORE using it. Or have a propane torch handy.

[@suhr65]

It's all the after market stuff playing together caused this issue. The tube wasn't installed correctly. Then adding everything else adding compounding failures.

[@deejayimm]

@@Manco65Except if I remember correctly, Permatex is consistently at the bottom of the list when threadlockers are compared.

[@theaspiration]

This may be a very controversial comment but here we go...... for gun parts that you never, ever want to have come lose and should have no need to ever remove for service.... loctite retaining compound (green/aka melon flavor/FML if I ever have to remove something that was applied to again) won't let you down. That is, until the time something unforeseen happens and now you need to remove the thing you never thought would need be removed. Use this information to you own satisfaction/frustration.

[@PerfectTangent]

The gun couldn't withstand the power of James' shotgunner corset.

[@enterprisar863]

🤔 you sure it was the corset and not James' overly moisturizered hands? 😂

[@s.l.2409]

I used this sucker in the Marine Corps. If Marines couldn’t break the thing then you sir should be impressed with yourself. Truly an amazing feat to make a Benelli M4 look like a spray painted Kel-tec. 😂🤣

[@tfbtv]

That’s the thing, the one that you guys get is a proper Benelli M4. Us filthy civilians have to get this half ass version that has to be modified correctly just to get something similar to the real deal.

[@Sig_P229]

I saw marines break it. Have you ever seen a shotgun shell put in the tube backwards 😮

[@Kesssuli]

@@Sig_P229 Shell backwards in magazine tube or chamber ? In magazine tube that should not be too hard to do but in chamber that should not happen by some small upsie. That quy have really eaten his crayons if manage to hammer shotgun shell backwards in chamber whitout realising that there is something wrong :D

[@s.l.2409]

@@Sig_P229 that’s just Marines being morons lol you and I both know well what happens to Marines if they break a weapon. N J P.

[@s.l.2409]

@@tfbtv I agree. I got one of them nasty civilian models now and it’s a shell of what Marines use. But it’s still a huge flex 😂

[@CeltKnight]

Ah, our US gun laws - forbidding import of the good version of a gun, forcing one to use sub-par after market stuff which breaks, all in the name of "safety." [eye-roll] I'm glad you made this video. I'd heard a couple rumors about the import version of the Benelli M4 not being up to par. Now I understand.

[@rdh5961]

I found out the hard way that if you're going to buy a Benelli, buy a LEO version (yes, you can buy it even if you're not LEO). The gun then comes with the full length magazine tube and is generally less expensive. After buying a neutered version and pricing how much is would cost to outfit it the way I wanted, I sold it and bought an 11732. It even comes with the Gen 2 enlarged bolt release and charging handle, straight from Benelli.

[@biunzRS]

what about the 11715? isnt that the one to get?

[@rdh5961]

@@biunzRS as long as it has the Gen 2 improvements

[@zanewilbanks7671]

How do you get the LEO Versions?

[@svtkilr]

@@biunzRS i own a 11715 M4LE but you can get the 11721 that doesn’t have the tritium night sights and it’s a little cheaper not much tho! That 11732 is that newer version with that butt ugly 5 position stock on it 😂 man they sure screwed up Putting that dog shit of a stock on a beautiful M4 🤦‍♂️ 😂

[@svtkilr]

@@zanewilbanks7671 you fork out about $2600 for one on GB they are all 922 exempt! And can be bought by civilians

[@Zach_Hazard]

This is why I spent the extra $700 and got a LE version; it came with the collapsible stock and OEM mag extension. If your M4 didn’t come with a full-length tube, I recommend the OEM mag extension, it works flawlessly and still allows you to disassemble the shotgun without removing it, all with the added bonus that you don’t have to remove the magazine tube to install a new one of questionable reliability.

[@Specter2197]

Holy shit, why am (not) surprised to see you out in the GunTube wilds? And with gun knowledge! Hopefully Mike adds the Benelli to FO4 soon so we can get this into the 5th episode of Gun Rants!

[@svtkilr]

That’s what I did I wasn’t trying to find that damn 3 position recoil tube and I heard it’s an absolute bitch to change out even Todd at FFT told me I chose right because he’s never even seen anyone do a R&R on the 3 position recoil tube yet but I know it involves a lot of heating to get that crazy Benelli loctite loose! Nope I’m good! I paid $2499 for mine shipped! Best way to go!

[@Zellar100]

Did you get youre full size tube and spring off the Benelli website? I’ve been looking to upgrade mine for sometime but not wanting to go 3rd party. After seeing this video I’m glad I’ve held off.

[@Zellar100]

Did you get youre full size tube and spring off the Benelli website? I’ve been looking to upgrade mine for sometime but not wanting to go 3rd party. After seeing this video I’m glad I’ve held off.

[@svtkilr]

@@Zellar100 if your talkn to me? Mine is the factory OEM spring that came with it. I didn’t opt for a wolf spring kit mine works perfectly

[@terryfaugno9242]

As for the magazine tube, duh, Benelli uses something akin to red Loctite on the OEM 5 round mag tube, and requires some quality time with a heatgun to get the OEM threadlocker to allow you to remove the mag tube. If you or your smith didn't threadlock the Briley CF tube when it was installed, no shit it's going to start unthreading itself under recoil.

[@dirtydan73]

The 1301 uses a spring-powered ball detent to prevent the tube from backing off. Not a bad idea to prevent this issue

[@socalpumpballer]

@@dirtydan73the guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about the cap on the benelli isn’t loctited just the two halves on the stock tube.

[@J0hnFr33man]

This is bullshit, my OEM 7 round tube's stayed on fine for thousands of rounds without any sort of loctite added. Stop buying shitty subpar third party accessories

[@AmericanArmsChannel]

There is a rule to live by when it comes to combat firearm - keep it simple. Deviating from what works well to make it look cool or add a boatload of accessories will slow you down and leave you at the end of the day stripping that junk off and back to basics. If you can’t go OEM on your mag tube or receiver extension tube, here is what I know for a fact works 3rd party on the M4/M1014: Mag Tube: Daves Metal Works 7 Rounder + Spring (or OEM Spring) Magazine Follower: Briley or OEM Receiver Extension tube: Regal Metal Works 3, 5, or 6 position (or OEM 3 Position) Bolt Release extension: Tarin Tactical Sling mount/weapon light mount: Impact Weapon Components Light Mount/QD sling mount. Trigger Housing: A&S Engineering enhanced trigger housing. The above items work, and work damn well. Stipple/texture your forend for extra grip if needed and leave it be. Everything with a thread should be given blue or red thread locker and torqued down to “gootentight!” Spec.

[@stevesmith5042]

30 years ago I bought a used Remington 870 with a 24" full choke barrel for $150, with the idea I'd have it modified for social work by the Gunsite Ranch. It received a 18" Vang Comp barrel, action job, side saddle, sling & ghost-ring sights. I didn't extend the magazine, so it "only" held four in the tube, one in the chamber. I took the Gunsite 260 shotgun class with it, then years later I took the Thunder Ranch shotgun class. My gun has held up to the most punishing treatment with all kinds of ammo without issue or failure. I know by today's standards it's a Fudd gun (Clint called it my "Chicken Gun") but like my Colt MKIV Series 70 with it's Gunsite Service Pistol conversion, I'm happy to be a Fudd!

[@Centermass762]

But it doesn't have the word "tactical" in the name so how would you ever use it for defense? It'll only kill birds. 😔

[@stevesmith5042]

@@Centermass762 Ha! 😁 It actually says "Gunsite Police" on the receiver, so I guess back in 1994 it was tacticool! But back then I was too! What's interesting is the head instructor for the TR course said if I ever wanted to sell it let him know. The younger assistant instructor had to try it for himself & he really liked how the Vang Comp barrel reduced felt recoil & patterned with all ammo. Easy hits at 100 yards with slugs too! It's old school cool.

[@errolwilcox747]

You should get "Chicken Gun" engraved into the receiver, since Clint reserves all naming rights on firearms that enter TR 😎

[@RK57AZ]

I guess things have changed since I bought my M4! The model I bought was a 11715 that came with the factory telescopic stock, 7 +1 and ghost ring and night sights I too, bought a stryke ind. forend but, never installed it due to stryke not answering my email about the missing hex screws. Mine remains bone stock! Stay safe and healthy! Ron

[@svtkilr]

Nothings changed on the M4 bro it’s just the aftermarket accessories he put on it that failed everything is the same inside I have a 11715 M4LE like you and my brother has the m1014 same shit minus the 922 limitations and 3 position recoil tube and skeletonized stock and night sights etc

[@darrelldunlap7249]

Stock is the way to go and it will serve you well.

[@RK57AZ]

@@darrelldunlap7249 Thanks Darrell, Mine is still bone stock! Stay safe

[@d7dun1010]

Just went down and checked and that is the model I have also! I wimped out and put a red dot on it, as well as the Benelli oversized bolt release button. Thinking about taking off the red dot and going with the irons. Great fighting shotguns! Top of the line!

[@RK57AZ]

@@d7dun1010 mine is still naked! Stay safe.

[@daviddrury6451]

Clint Smith is a national treasure and needs to be celebrated. Banks and Govt offices should be closed on his birthday. May his body lay in state for a week when the good Lord calls him up to fight in his army

[@troybell458]

By far one of the best video you put out, just the comedy alone is awesome!

[@jarvismorrison9328]

I'm glad I got a M4 LE so I didn't have to buy extra stuff. Added Scalar Works, Holosun, Streamlight and Impact Weapons & SilencerCo goodies. Man, I love this Shotgun...!!!!

[@svtkilr]

That’s like my set up on my M4LE but I’m running a Trijicon red dot, taran shell Carrier,FFT charging handle and a vickers tactical padded sling Black Betty had never failed me! 👍

[@SSgtCalebP]

So I run a Beretta 1301 because it’s a Lighter platform and in the restrictive northern USA it’s my go-to gun I’ve taken a black bear, deer and turkey with (and I’ve only had it a year). I found a major problem a lot of people have is trying to over-accessorise a gun. optics, maybe a light and a shell Carrier or card help, but I’ve seen too many people switching out perfectly good factory parts on guns. Upgrading makes sense on a gun you build yourself or competition gun but your average joe needs more range time and training, not a better trigger. Invest in ammo and training before you try to upgrade your gun.

[@jamesmoore4003]

The Mossberg Maverick 88 passed the 500 round test too…which considering the cheap price for that gun is pretty damn impressive in my book.

[@texpatriot8462]

Would it pass a 1,000 round test? Probably.

[@tigrisphotosynthesis9796]

@@texpatriot8462 definaatelty, we chopped down a tree with a few cases of target ammo camping one night, probabbly put 2k through the gun throughout the weekend

[@tigrisphotosynthesis9796]

@@mrs.vasquezz it was just target loads, shoulders were fine. my offhand arm was a bit sore from all the pump action, but the 500/590a1 action is super smooth so not bad at all

[@RKYBlues]

Hard to beat an "88" regardless of price. Utterly reliable. Collapsible side-folder stock, Titanium Cerakote, QD 1500 Lumens O-Light, and sling. Needs nothing else. Enjoy. O

[@Genesis23OPB]

well thats a pump, far easier of a concept

[@robertkouns3078]

Seen a similar issue in a recent shotgun class. Guy had the Briley handguard walk off and tube come loose. After running 300ish shells through that class, I changed all my blue threadlok to orange on my 1301 with Aridus accessories.

[@zapbranaginn7324]

The Ike Turner reference describing your partner in crime bashing the bolt release plate had me roaring. Enjoyed the video. Very informative and entertaining. Gave me a good idea what to look out for when I tinker around with my M4 that I just bought.

[@andrewryan3486]

Gotta say your videos had me sold on a 1301 but could never find one, saw your 940 video and found one quickly after. Super happy with it, I'm sure I would be with the 1301 too, but thank you for the no bs vids on shotguns.

[@StuPierce77]

If you buy the M4 in the first place, you’re not worried about a bargain price. Just add the FFT aftermarket parts, and you’ll never be disappointed with your M4. Thanks for the video TFB!

[@CoolSmoovie]

Shotguns are seriously slept on

[@vicdiaz5180]

Agree! I tried mag dumping my Kalashnikov Komrad-12 and 12 gauge is no joke on how much damage it does. Personally, I think everyone should have a shotgun in their inventory.

[@erroneous6947]

I have a saiga 12 ga with a 12 rd drum behind my bedroom door. Right next to the vest. I call it my door greeter.

[@timothywaterreus9618]

Right?! Joe Biden says that all you need is a double barrel and to let one off in the sky before to warm the intruder. I trust him.

[@Sig_P229]

@@erroneous6947meat and greet sounds better

[@kirkfreeman6913]

No, they go in cycles. Awerbuck wrote a column about this. Today shotguns are in and out of favor as the trends sweep the guntubers.

[@MrBullet888]

I went with a used FN SLP mk1. In love with it. 8 +1 capacity, handles great and is fast AF shooting. Also own a Mossberg 590 Tactical pump that does the job. Not quite as fast of course but handles great too. Capacity is limited on the pump. Options are always nice.

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

I’m looking at the 590A1 retrograde

[@rpnvg]

I *just* bought and received my Benelli M4 three days ago. I binge watched every TFB episode & article on shotguns and the M4 prior. Man, I absolutely love this thing. I can’t believe how light recoiling slugs feel, with it. It just feels so high quality and is absurdly fun to shoot. The fact that I can throw anything from cheapo Walmart birdshot to nice Federal slugs and it cycles 100% is so nice. I very highly recommend this shotgun, it’s definitely one of the nicest firearms I’ve ever handled. If you do buy this, get the “11715” sku model. It has all of the features everyone wants out of the box: collapsing stock, extended tube, ghost ring night sights and threaded barrel. Avoid the Gen 2’s as they all have a fixed choke. Unless you want that, of course. One more thing - that bolt release tab 100% came off due to the Strike Industries hand guard being shitty and getting loose, lol. I’m at 700 rounds of mostly buck & slugs and my tab (from RX Arms) still looks new and is intact. Just using the factory plastic hand guards. But I also press it with my thumb/fingers like a normal person. Eat the cake, Anna Mae! 🍰 🥊 I can’t wait to see the non-neutered OEM Benelli M4 review! Maybe pair a JK Armament SGX-12/SiCo Salvo 12/Rex Silentium SEG12 suppressor with it? For shits and giggles

[@DrQuagmire1]

agreed man!!!! While I don't own the Benelli M4, I "DO" own the Benelli M2 Tactical in the L.E. Model with the full 8-round capacity right out of the box (had purchased it from a gun range around Christmas 2021 that I occasionally go to for target shooting)

[@rpnvg]

@@DrQuagmire1 Oh man, M2’s are super nice! I have a lot of time on the M2 and M3. All very high quality. 🇮🇹🍝

[@GenX-Grampa]

Shoulda just got a 590A1 and been done with it… for life!

[@funktron2021]

Can you make a review of it shooting aguila comp and bioammo 😂

[@svtkilr]

@@GenX-Grampa this is a semi video grandpa not your pump truck guns ! But the 930s are bad ass!

[@allenneva5213]

I installed the Freedman Fighter Tactical 7 shot titanium tube. Pain in the ass getting the Benelli factory red loctite to come loose with a heat gun. I used loctite to secure the new tube in place. I have a mesa tactical handguard that hasn't worked loose after more than 1000 rounds.

[@svtkilr]

Lol yeah I heard horror stories about that! Glad I bought a M4LE saved me the time and frustration 😂

[@jackusmc2542]

And a Sunny Sunday in April to you to, Mr. Reeves! James! You breaker of Shotguns, You! You Broke a Benelli! I am amazed, dare I say shocked. Looking forward to the resurrected video. Keep up the good work, you Mad Lad! Ciao!

[@thetruebatman4632]

I did an automatic shotgun class at my department to certify me to carry my Benelli M2 Tactical, and we did 600 rounds per standards throughout 6 hours. It was a BEATING, on all of us, shooting 9 pellet LE rounds was nuts. But that hot of a load in the inertia operated gun, didn’t have a single problem and I was grateful when it came to cleaning time compared to the M4 boys.

[@svtkilr]

M4s are self cleaning my dude 😂

[@albertmcmichael9110]

And this is why I love my Maverick 88!

[@brandonchandler9032]

They have a LE version that comes with everything from the factory now. I found one. It's got a metal handguard up front, the extended mag tube, collapsible stock, bigger bolt release button, and sling attachments. I believe it's a new Gen model.

[@akmjolnir-v4r]

I've had good luck with Dave's Metal Works and RX Arms for quality M4 upgrades. But yeah, you have to add threadlocker to those parts; if it takes a torch to melt the factory stuff out, you'll want to ensure there's fresh stuff upon reassembly. I would blame the magazine tube loosening as the root cause of the problems.

[@connorgodchaux8475]

i love the rx arms parts

[@TheSwoopDog]

RX Arms parts are the best. My tube is a Carrier Comp and it's also been flawless to me, sure I haven't torture tested it but I've shot my m4 quite a lot over the last couple of years, including a couple of thousand slugs, ~500 00 buckshots, and a lot of clay loads. I'm a little salty because the day after I bought mine, the unnutered LEO version showed up in a store for a really good price, by the time I got in contact with the first seller, it was gone. Big regret, but at least Carriercomp tubes don't seem to work themselves loose so no harm no foul.

[@akmjolnir-v4r]

@@TheSwoopDog Any tube will eventually work its way loose if there is no threadlocker applied upon reinstallation.

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

I have had my M4 for about 2 years. I run VERY stout loads through it regularly. 12 pellet 00 buck, 525 gr slugs, and Tri-Ball loads. Mine has never skipped a beat. It is also completely OEM minus the required pieces. I have the steel extended tube and fixed stock.

[@kirk0respite]

The Stanley steamer line made me spit out my coffee

[@StarLordIRL]

I thought of what the add might look like

[@kenlansing1216]

This helps confirms my practice of leaving things as factory as possible.

[@DwayneHicks323]

Just so you know the benelli m4 is issued to all British combat troops not just the sas but us regular grunts only get to play with it when going on ops

[@josedorsaith5261]

That's still a lot more contact time with it than us civvies

[@DwayneHicks323]

@@josedorsaith5261 that's true and that sucks brother

[@swaggaming420]

US marine corps uses it as well

[@josedorsaith5261]

@@DwayneHicks323 One day we'll get our rights back. Have a good Easter!

[@RicArmstrong]

​@@josedorsaith5261 I hate to sound negative, but I don't think the UK will ever legalize real gun ownership.

[@GhillieMedic92]

Your honesty is greatly appreciated. This is a glowing recommendation to learn to work on your own firearms and vet the items you place on them. Find an owner of an 11715 so you can enjoy the platform as the spicy Italian gods intended.

[@d7dun1010]

Wholeheartly agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@camerongoyette4778]

Moral of the story, dont ruin your weapons reliability with shitty aftermarket parts.

[@rafaelcalderon2027]

Very true, I’ve kept both of my m4’s stock; only added the 7 rd tube. No need to change stuff. I spent 26 yrs in the Corps and was taught at a young age the KISS principle

[@ronaldedwards2902]

I was having issues with being able to fast reload the shotgun. I put a freedom fighter tactical seven round magazine tube in and polished the first 3 inches with 2600 grit sandpaper. I then polished the shell latch where the shell would interface with it going into the magazine too. I also polished the exterior Circumference of the follower. I no longer have issues quad loading the shotgun. 2600 grit is the only sandpaper I would use because it polishes the finish, but does not change the geometry or operation of the shotgun.

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

Hey, James! Very interested to see Part 2 of this Benelli M4 Burndown. My "Old Soldier" Benelli M1 Super 90 never quits.

[@thealsatian4232]

Mine either

[@mauser8515]

Gunsmiths are invaluable. It amazes me that so many gun channels don't have an actual gunsmith on staff. Putting parts on a gun does not make someone a Gunsmith.

[@TL8311-j6x]

#1 don't misuse your tools and expect them to not break #2 don't trust "gunsmiths". You're better off doing it yourself.

[@briandickinson3721]

I can only imagine your frustration (and have felt it as well!) there is no real (good) reason that we allow the powers-that-be to continue doing this to us when we want to exercise our personal liberties. You videos are always a high point in my day and I thank you for them.

[@rossbossapplesauce6224]

16:13 love the Star Wars quote

[@joe-redacted]

I got this strange feeling James' "gunsmith" wears tactical short shorts and is a massive fanboy of Block™️

[@tfbtv]

Hahah it’s not me although I’m not sure my work would have been any worse.

[@sisleymichael]

James, you never fail to crack me up with some of the shit you say! Funny as all get out for sure. Thanks for the video man. I will watch this again when I need to brighten my day on down the road in the future.

[@boylukefirearms]

thanks for your video! Happy Easter sir!

[@glenthompson207]

Bought Limited Edition Olive Green M4 shotgun for 2 grand. Bought official Benelli 7 round magazine extension tube and collapsible stock for almost eight hundo. No issues so far. But finding a range here in AZ that isn’t indoors, that only allows birdshot, that you don’t need a membership to shoot at, close to and available to my work schedule. A diamond in the rough

[@Kornholeeoo]

I almost bought their carbon fiber tube but opted to go with an original Benelli tube and I used loktite on it. I’ve ran thousands of rounds through it since then and it’s still tight. But I’m glad you showed how this beast can handle the heavy stuff like no other. I also have the 1301 and I even bought the Kick Off stock for the A400 Extreme and put on my 1301 Tactical. The M4 still handles 3” mag buckshot easier than my 1301 handles 2 3/4” loads. It’s really not even close. There’s no need to buy expensive reduced recoil loads when you’re shooting the M4! Just…wait for it…Shoot That Thang!

[@mikehall1318]

I got all these same upgrades on my PANZER ARMS M4 and it's going strong and solid over 1000 shots.

[@rcrites]

These are the reasons I'm extremely picky about third party accessories. It pains me to buy expensive stuff but there's a reason why it's expensive, at least most of the time (I'm looking at you trijicon).

[@firedude3337]

I'm glad I put all my factory stuff together years ago before it got real difficult. It's my favorite weapon in the arsonal.

[@MrKingArthurhk]

You’re a lawyer. I am sorry your parents weren’t married.

[@ImDudePlayinADude]

I bought the M$ with SKU 11715. this comes with the collapsable stock, and 7 round tube. its not quite the M1014, because the tube looks to be a shorter tube that was extended. That said it is still 7 rounds. I ran probably 150 various rounds through mine when i got it. I wasn't torture testing though, just verifying what i had heard about it eating anything reliably and handling recoil like a champ.

[@svtkilr]

That’s the LE model bro it’s 9 22 exempt! That what I bought a few years ago. It’s Got a few Taran tactical accessories and fft charging handle

[@fn6266]

I love these Italian clones of Turknellis.

[@tfbtv]

lol

[@mcjon77]

James customized his Benelli so much that he turned it into a Turknelli.

[@tmacrae8131]

A turkish made shotgun that ive heard is pretty good for durability is the stoeger m3k/m3000, seeing one of those go through the 500 round torture test could be interesting.

[@T-SwiftsMaritalAid]

The Turkish guns are trash

[@DoItYourselfRC]

I’ve never seen one hold up…mine won’t cycle, clients in the duck blind have constant issues with them. The franchi affinity is a much better buy

[@wizardofahhhs759]

The Tri+Star Viper is a good one too, parts interchangeable with Beretta but also very similar to the Stoeger 3000.

[@DoItYourselfRC]

@@wizardofahhhs759 ehhh my tristar is a pile too lol they have decent customer support though.

[@Piledriver2235]

My m3000 has been flawless, but only have around 750 rounds through it

[@andrew8664]

I was lucky to find a LE version that came with 7 shot tube, collapsible stock and night sights from the factory. No issues after 2 days of a shotgun class shooting variety of buck, bird and slugs. Definitely aftermarket accessories failures. For light/sling, ggg has a simple and effective mount that replaces factory front sling mount. No need to change handguard.

[@AviationJeremy]

Strike Industries handguard: you get what you pay for.

[@russn4933]

superb video! Yeah, I love my M4. I hate the BS stuff that I have to put on it to be legal. I also remember your shotgun video a few years back.

[@Freedom-le9bv]

Love your show and this segment! I have a mossberg 930 JM Pro tactical 22 inch barrel. Can you do a burn down 500 rounds with this shotgun in the near future? I'm curious to see what how the shotgun will do. Thanks

[@77Infidel]

I love mine. 8+1, wonderful charging handle, smooth feed ramp, Works flawlessly with everything I've ever put in it. I did at first have to get over the fact that the Barrel is a tad bit shorter than the tube. That was remedied after the first time I shot it. I love my 500, but the 930 is fun to shoot. Right up there with my Socom 16.

[@ElsinoreRacer]

Ike Turner. Wife in the other room, "What's going on in there?" "Gold. Pure gold."

[@MrSumGuns]

I'll stick with my reasonably priced Mossberg! Great video as always thanks!

[@f0rr3stgump]

I've had a M4 LE model on order from my LGS since September of 2022, no word as of this comment when it'll show up. Glad I was able to find a shop that's a Benelli LE dealer because by the time you get full 922.r compliance, you're almost at 2k in accessories for a 2k shotgun. To me the reason there was a failure looked like it was related to poor installation. 😬

[@svtkilr]

Wow that’s ridiculous I have a 11715 M4LE bought it back in 2020 in the height of the pandemic and paid $2499 and had it in 4 days in my hands. Look online you could have had one already I’ve seen a shitload online in the 11715 11721 and those new ugly 5 position stocks I think 11732 🤮 what a waste of a good looking M4 🤦‍♂️

[@ethan5.56]

I’ve owned and parted with so many shotguns over the years. The only one I’ve held on to is a Chinese hawk 981r pump action 870 clone. Only owned one semi auto shotgun which was a Stoeger M3000 and it worked great. I definitely can’t afford a Benelli M4 though 😢😂 great video as always

[@SVTeel]

Getting the original mag tube off takes about 20 minutes of heat gun use to break it loose. I scrubbed all the crystalized thread locker from the factory off and installed a factory mag tube for $250. That's a lot of money for a piece of threaded pipe, but I had to do it for the proper capacity.

[@fredocuomo5386]

can you do a panzer m4 burndown? would love to see how benelli clone fares.

[@imnotawasteoftime]

Someone else did one I think, and it flopped

[@napoleonwilson3912]

Good video. Documenting and being honest about the failures is helpful. Can't wait to see it finally run well.

[@StreetLethal92]

Besides after market parts. I think I will be going with Beretta 1301.

[@mytmousemalibu]

It's an awesome gun! However the Mesa Tactical stock some are equipped with is a POS. Get an Aridus adapter and put a Magpul SGA on it, so much better its not funny.

[@JustSumGuy01]

A buddy of mine actually bought a Promag, yes THAT Promag, collapsible stock for his Benelli M4 because he couldn't find an actual one. It broke after some hard use. He had some kind of tri-rail handguard for awhile on it but since he didn't actually mount his light or anything else on it, he switched back to the factory one. The light mount he got is actually clamped onto the tube itself. Still holds up. He got a larger charging handle and a larger bolt release and those have held up fine. Mesa tactical side saddle

[@hopewilliams6705]

This is what happens when you take something perfect and bubba it up

[@tfbtv]

That’s the problem, and the entire point of this video. It isn’t perfect when you buy it. Limited capacity, neutered stock, no WML points or QD sling sockets.

[@hopewilliams6705]

@@tfbtv oh I completely understand... Truly...sometimes it is like a rough draft in college after a few revisions you finally get something your proud of LoL

[@cutlerf2194]

ALL of those issues could've been created by that mag tube coming loose and or elongating. Most people don't think about or understand the physics behind firearms. Until the projectile, in this case a shot column or slug, leaves the muzzle, there is a forward force acting on the barrel through the building pressure. Never mind the jarring force of two pistons launching the carrier rearward, there is an equal and opposite force forwards there as well. The tube loosening allows the barrel to set further forward. You can actually see that pretty well, looking at the 1/16 to 1/8 inch gap behind the barrels shoulder at the front edge of the receiver at 10:55. The constant fore/aft movement of the front end likely didn't help that handguard dremled or not, or that sheet metal bolt release paddle. That's more than enough force to remove anodizing. Probably way more than enough force to damage that carbon mag tube in ways that cant be seen. Likely what happened to the retainer was that once it got loose enough to misalign it caught and got bent between the receiver (braced by the butt stock), and the rearward recoiling front end (the barrel sliding back that 1/16 to 1/8 inch, which took the handguard with it. If you don't believe the barrel moving that much under recoil could crate that much force, then tell that to the OG browning A5. That gun had a literal friction brake to stop it from denting the back of the receiver. TFB, if you read this, I'd recommend at minimum carefully inspecting, if not replacing that mag tube, and not reusing it. Stress cracks could very easily have formed that are invisible or nearly invisible to the naked eye. Also get your money back from that 'smith'. He should've seen that coming a mile away in a mechanism this violent in principal.

[@EXO9X8]

Artisan gunsmithing

[@peterbernstein2369]

we also had issues with bio ammo , bought some in May 2022 fired a few , pattern looked ok , took it hunting in Oct 2022 and they were like pop gun ammo , weak report , no recoil. also no birds.the shells were kept in side in an air conditioned house right next to other boxes of Federal and Winchester shot shells that had no issue and in some cases were several years older. it seems it starts breaking down before you want it to.

[@bushmansa518]

Part 2 coming soon !

[@daven953]

My Benelli came to me in Canada with the telescoping stock, ghost ring sights and 4 shot tube. For$2300 cnd. Sights are great no issue. Stock I like no issue. Tube was a factory crimped tube. Would hold 4 , 2 3/4 inch shells. Changed it out for a Canada legal 4 shot 3 inch tube from S&J . Changed the bolt handle to S&J oversized. That is it for the mods. It runs flawlessly. I admit a larger bolt release button would top it off. But my big hands seem to have gotten used to it. I bought this gun because it proved to be the toughest out of all of them at the time. Quick enough for me , and the recoil still the lightest out of all of them. ( shoulder injury). I'm not able to have 3 or 4 shotguns on hand. So I believe this was my most reliable option I will have for the rest of my shooting days. I'm really enjoying your what not to do to your Benelli vid. And the rest of your vids. Looking forward to part 2 when I find it.

[@JDTurner1984]

Clint is a national treasure!

[@JimmyJones206]

00PS I forgot thanks for all the witty and awesome content because this is one of the best channels on KZbin it gives my pew view thanks again God bless and happy Easter!!’ 4:40

[@draco47man]

So we can now call the 1301 king of the semi automatic?

[@joe-redacted]

😂No the M2 still exists

[@josephramieri2256]

My expensive Briley handguard loosened after a couple of hundred heavy rounds and could never be tightened with the mag tube cap nut. Replaced it with an even more expensive BT handguard which remains solid as a rock. Also the Urbino stock I bought lost the rubber handgrip covering which I re-epoxied on and then continued to loosen as I fired more rounds, despite using Loctite on the installation bolt. Finally was able to get a collapsible real Benelli stock. Tried three larger bolt handles from FFT, all of which eventually flew out of the bolt at some point so I went to a bolt handle that was much lighter and just a tad bigger than stock. My carbon fiber mag tube self stripped the threaded end...I returned it to Briley for credit and replaced it with a steel unit. Meprolight sites that don't glow!! Thousands into this gun because of most aftermarket crap that has failed. I should have left it stock!!

[@McJargle]

I'm six seconds in, and I'm angry. >:(

[@95dodgev10]

Thats what she said

[@boxerdad214]

Midwest industry has the BEST Mlok rail and you gain real-estate for the proper grip we all want. Plus you can add a real Mlok light on with minimal barrel shadow. Benelli plus 2 tube is the way to go and gun broker might be your best source. Tarin Tactical makes a good bolt release and charging handle, might as well the the safety button as well. GG&G has some parts as well. Carbon fiber isn’t for extreme use. Good video bro.

[@monocogenit1]

I have a Benelli M2, maybe a little simpler operation, is inertia only. Got it at a pawn shop for $800 a couple years ago. Looked like it was barely used. Been a great shot gun. I added a Nordic components extension tube and clamp, 10+1.

[@eXpeDiEnt89]

Awesome review! The bolt release on Benellis is (at least it used to be) so small because you don't need it. If the bolt is locked to the rear (and the gun is empty), all you need to do is press down on the new shell you're loading into the chamber when it's resting on the carrier/lifter. The bolt release is a slow redundancy.

[@eXpeDiEnt89]

This works on all semi-auto Benellis.

[@clownworld4655]

Have never had an issue with my m4. Spot on about all the upgrade bs though. Aftermarket parts are insanely expensive for it. Mine is pimped out with an extended aluminum miok hand guard, steel 7rd tube, bubba stick bolt release (haven’t broke mine, but I don’t exactly punch it), rmr optics mount with a holosun 509T, stream light flashlight, and an ardius industries removable shell carrier. Has the factory pistol grip fixed stock which I prefer over the collapsible one. Puts it at over $3k and it is a beefy/heavy boy, but super fun and reliable to use. Have run drills with it, but not torture tested it yet. Put a shit ton of locktite on my tube when I assembled everything

[@Leothelion357]

“Bent piece of license plate” bro you’re the best at being slyly disrespectful 🤣🤣🤣

[@Tap02]

I just got the Benelli m4a1. The Benelli m4 is a finely tuned machine. Factory or oem parts only.

[@Mark-et8vh]

The only thing I can relate to is when through some miracle, I found an original factory magazine extension for the only Benelli I could afford: Benelli SuperNova tactical. Perhaps the most underrated pump shotgun ever. I adore it.

[@joepbugnaiii296]

Great vid. Excited to see how this turns out. I’ve owned two M4s and after messing with the first one with aftermarket nonsense, I just keep the current one OEM….with the exception of the Scalar mount and T2;)

[@Scattaminkey]

The reference at the end...*chef's kiss*.

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

>buys a benelli >throws some stroke industries on it >parts installed by a mentally questionable goober. >gun fails catastrophically Kek

[@Jordan-ce7sf]

Ok i'm only 30 seconds into the video and i'm already blown away that Clint is a Bang and Olufsen guy!

[@heavyjmertes197]

Thanks, James. You saved me a bunch of money!

[@jamesrossetti6284]

I ordered a Kickoff recoil system that fits in the butt of my 1301 tac and it makes a BIG difference! It helps mitigate the lightweight disadvantage regarding recoil. It comes on my A400 Xcel, so I knew it would make a difference. They come with the current gen of the 1301 competition.

[@overseas_demogod]

I watched your videos on the Beretta 1301 and made myself a copy. Pretty sure it was your video. Shotgun cards, the sling, optic and light...that's a badass gun.

[@seanlowry7848]

Taren Tactical makes a part that you can tap and then bolt on to the bolt release that makes it substantially bigger and easier to use. I've had one on mine for 4 years and it's been good to go. I also installed a B&T quadrail and it's solid for adding a light and it's extremely light weight for an aluminum rail

[@jeffelder3583]

my benelli has been flawless.. bird, buck, slug, it eats it all.. I love my benelli.. and being canadian, our regs are overall length, so my stock collapses.. but I exchanged it with a mesa tactical stock

[@svtkilr]

WTF??? why would you put that junk on it? The 3 position recoil tube and skeletonized stock is what makes a Benelli a M4 you went backwards hahahahhaha 🤦‍♂️

[@jeffelder3583]

@@svtkilr but the mesa tactical is so much more comfortable lol

[@svtkilr]

@@jeffelder3583 Ive used a mesa but not on a Benelli M4. I think the M4 stock is comfortable as can be but after 4 boxes of 3inch magnum fosters running 1800fps any stocks are going to be uncomfortable 😳

[@leonardoserna2238]

Always get a huge grin on my face when that boom stick goes off.....👍👍

[@jg3_75]

Just another quality video. James really is top of his craft

[@jaason101]

I have a M4 H20 and it is awesome. I got the regular handguards stippled and got a better bolt release ( stippled as well ). I do agre that it is total BS that you can t get it with the collapsible stock and extended tube.

[@XaviarCraig]

As someone with a 922r compliant M4 that has a steady diet of 3000 regular 1600 fps rated 1oz slugs in 2.75 inch long shells for the last 8 years; they work great as-is but if you start using aftermarket shlockly parts, the M4 fails faster than a hipoint on steelcased ammo. If you're going to replace the factory magazine tube; use steel one only. Other than adding an optic I recommend leaving it as is. If you need a light, duct tape it to handguard