A 20 Gauge Air Gun? (That Shoots Anything!) The Umarex Primal [SHOT Show 2022]

[@JDTN1985]

I remember a few years ago a guy showed up at my local range with a .25 cal PCP air rifle, and he basically shut down the range cause we were all amazed by it. We were all shocked by how quiet and accurate it was at 100 yards. The sound of the projectile hitting the target at that range was louder then the rifle. One of the ROs asked him what he uses it for and his answer was taking out squirrels and birds that annoy him while bowhunting. I became convinced that day that air rifles are where the real innovation was gonna happen in the US hunting market. Just need the hunting laws to catch up with the technology. Thanks for the video James. 👍

[@Ren505nm]

you weren't allowed a bb or pallet gun as a kid?

[@JDTN1985]

@@Ren505nm lol nothing that was close to what modern air rifles are cabable of. We've come a long way from the Red Ryder I had when I was 8.

[@PlasticRocket2]

@@Ren505nm how many bb guns you see that will shoot groups out to 100 yards?

[@FightTalkNate]

@@JDTN1985 Yeah PCP air guns are a lot different than cheap pump ones. There's this 50 cal one that can shoot a round ball for a muzzleloader. Hunting laws do need to be updated for air guns since you can really take game with them.

[@mr.c.3760]

maybe electric assisted air rifles for the future of modern warfare in 20 years instead of lasers, who knows

[@joemoment-o1275]

Finally something reasonable and innovative

[@CeltKnight]

Well, so far, this is the most realistically priced item I've seen a video for this SHOT show.

[@integraloutdoors]

I was pleasantly surprised when he didn't say it was $2000. Lots of air guns get way up there.

[@RimfireRenegade]

I know a boatload of people that work at Walther/Umarex. These are true blue gun people that compete in USPSA in the summer, and hunt hogs with a .357 air gun in the winter. Really great people at that company, and you can expect the innovation to continue. One of my good shooting friends is working the booth at SHOT this year, stop by and say hi for us Arkies!

[@zendell37]

It's funny to see that glint in someone's eye when they can't wait to play with their new toy. Got to chatting with a guy who picked up an AirSaber and just couldn't wait to take it out.

[@charlesashworth6805]

Are these assembled in Arkansas

[@zendell37]

@@charlesashworth6805 Well. They're assembling the Hammer .50 in house in Arkansas. I'm not sure what their plan is on this specific unit is yet.

[@nicholgoines9362]

@@charlesashworth6805 Yes. The Primal20 will also be assembled in Arkansas.

[@glueguzzler9548]

Air guns are incredible, the ammo is so cheap, caseless too which honestly is pretty damn nice for a backyard range and even better because they're so damn quiet. My Crossman Challenger is a $750 air rifle capable of extreme accuracy for 10m bullseye and at such a good price

[@17hmr243]

my gamo coyote barks to loud for b yard work and in oz pk pellets for .22 is 20$

[@mwam1985]

Can we get a replica of the airgun Lewis & Clark had on their expedition, preferably made with a nice birdseye maple stock?

[@Bran_Nuthin]

☝This.

[@ElTejon47901]

Because price. No way you buy anything that expensive or anyone else.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

@@ElTejon47901 then make it cheaper lmao

[@ElTejon47901]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Well, won't be replica but I understand the desire, it was a cool weapon.

[@1johnnygunn]

There are custom makers, contact Dennis Quackenbush...

[@paulwuzhere]

That is way more interesting than I thought it was going to be

[@TheGunner11]

Eydin is great, nice to see people both enthused and knowledgeable.

[@scottroberts5554]

He seems like he would be a blast to hang out with!

[@SynthiaVan]

This is *SO COOL.* I love guns and all, but I REALLY love air guns. I think the rep is right that airgun hunting (medium-to-large game) is absolutely the wave of the near future. I use my airguns a lot at home for fun and have taken out countless pigeons and sparrows. The hardest pill to swallow is the PCP requirement of a source of high-pressure air, either buying a SCUBA tank and regularly taking it somewhere to fill it or buying a super-high-pressure compressor...

[@berryreading4809]

Luckily electric hpa compressors are getting super cheap now... especially some of the portable 12v DC automotive compressors are surprisingly affordable compared to decent quality hardware store air compressors 👍

[@SynthiaVan]

I wasn't aware they were coming down, I'll have to look into it. But if they're like $500, plus a gun that's $500 to $2000, it's quite an investment.

[@berryreading4809]

@@SynthiaVan It we pre crazy prices last time I was browsing, but at the time a 120 or 240v AC powered unit was starting around $900 for an iffy model, more like $1500-$2000 for a well proven design 😵 then I was turned onto the 12V portable versions that can be had for a fraction of the price! Most well reviewed units start around $250 and higher end (usually just better quality control, similar components) or name brand units are $600. I've spent over $300 on standard 120v 120psi output aircompressors multiple times! 😖 With the current ammunition prices it wouldn't take long to pay for itself! and that's discounting the funfactor of pcp airguns 😉 BTW I do feel redeemed... I did just buy a new $450 Estwing ultra quiet 200psi air compressor for $103 on clearance at Lowes 😁 they ordered a pallet of them for Christmas season, 5 just kept sitting in the back corner until last week I noticed that only one was remained after they were previously marked down from $350 to $270 for a few weeks at a time... I guarantee the guy before me bought 4 of them 🤣 I may have bought all 5 🤦‍♂️

[@Gatlinggunman]

It's cool cause brands like Umarex sell on Amazon. 357's, 44's, 50's, and the Arrow rifles too.

[@kushnoketchup]

One of the coolest things i've seen in a while. TFB this was a great product to feature!

[@pocketabes274]

"So I don't have to keep count." Its 4 shots James, even you can count that high...I hope.

[@life_of_riley88]

Lol

[@GregGBM7]

It won't be long till we see garand thumb launching some strange stuff at gel torsos and heads with this long gassy 45acp +p

[@Crzyman23]

This thing would be great for hunting in areas where homes would be an issue. Like public areas that are surrounded by privet parcels or if you don't want to be causing a lot ruckus.

[@nathancrock3030]

I love it. This dude exactly the type of dude I’d expect to be all about air rifles. But, I love it 🤣

[@turnermd1302]

650$ seems super reasonable for this product honestly

[@carami6442]

Wow this is really cool to people who don't know how cool other crazy high power airguns are already. Really this has been done before and done better.

[@jeffsmith50001]

Umarex has "got your 6" for when it hits the fan !. Got a HDR50 (tuned well up) 12.7 chrome balls. I know thats apples and mangos but its fantastic for up close.

[@mchap6118]

Hi there, I am interested in those 12.7 grammers that you mentioned. Any idea where I can find some of those?

[@jeffsmith50001]

@@mchap6118 Hi mate. The steel balls are 8.4g. The size is 12.6 or 7 ish mm. = half inch=50cal. Do not go to ebay or amazon. Go to find a Bearing Company for the 500 deal. I think they are called Soft Steel Balls. or Slingshot Ammo. $12 to 20 quid range. Damn good. Sand the chambers lightly so they fit snugg from the front. Cheers

[@machinesandthings9641]

I’ve been waiting for a air shotgun for a while. Nice

[@mabs9503]

honestly this is cool and the guy did a great job amazing

[@danielcurtis1434]

I don’t know I think if I had to go big I’d get the 72 cal (12 gauge essentially) from AEA. It puts out like 1500 foot pounds!!!

[@Mister.45]

Yep which approaches the power of some 12 gauge shotguns and beating out some 20 gauge shotguns as well

[@ct2368]

That's awesome! I would totally add that to my arsenal.

[@rogerlikes]

Very interesting , your interview was the first I heard about shooting other things beside the Umarex slugs.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

John Correia is a f46. Paul Harrel rocks.

[@bradfletcher6826]

Ty sir for checking that out 😊

[@eunyoungchae2621]

Used it for a lawn party and it was a big splash!!!

[@gybx4094]

Can we reload the shotshell with our own shot?

[@96SupraTT]

Lol at randomly seeing BAM BAM and Obey together in a video. Not sure who's funnier.

[@ogfight]

The Umarex guy reminds me of comedian Tom Papa.

[@ssamuelt79]

Sweet!!! I have been messing with PCP’s for a few years, an its some fun stuff!

[@westcoaststacker569]

Fired my new a new .25 today, damn can it penetrate.

[@Dashrendar7]

I wonder if it works reliably in sub-zero temps, hunting in November in some places in this country is a cold endeavor

[@EvWine]

Cant speak to this particular airgun, but HPA airguns typically work in the cold unlike CO2

[@DeckDogs4Life]

It would likely depend on HOW cold but I would guess in most North American temps, you would probably not have issues. Maybe lose a shot per tank if you filled it up in the warmth of your house and went into the cold, but I would guess it wouldn't be too bad. I feel like if you filled it up in your 40F garage and went into 10F temps, you would likely not see much loss if any. That said, I cannot speak for this rifle, just other experiences with shooting air guns.

[@Ren505nm]

I think the air seals would fail, i had a co2 pistol blow seals in cold after awhile.

[@zendell37]

One of the advantages of HPA is how nitrogen doesn't vary as much temperature wise. My hopes are they'd hold up well. But as someone else mentioned, the seals could be an issue.

[@Dashrendar7]

@@DeckDogs4Life worst opener for deer I've sat through was -13F and sub zero is pretty common during that time of year here. But this is encouraging^ I think this is an awesome idea and I hope they do stress tests in environments like I have mentioned.

[@DarkhalfBreed]

James is wearing some super weird shorts

[@TheSuburban15]

Does the tank detach? I hate filling long guns with fixed tanks. A set with a smoothbore and a rifled barrel would also be good.

[@tuckert7883]

If its 600-650 and will take a deer at 50-75 yards and keep a 2 inch group..iam likeing it

[@nla27]

So it's an air rifle conversion of the 1830's Harmonica Rifle. Love how air guns are following the path of black powder. Maybe try a Drilling Gun next.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I'm an air gun enthusiast. "Air gunners" still talk about "lock time". If that's not a throw back to black powder, nothing is!

[@Lykapodium]

Squirrel tacos and venison sounds good to me!

[@pootinhammer]

it's cool but honestly 430 foot pounds is underwhelming with a projectile that size. I bet people will mess with the valves and springs on these and get them to shoot 1000 fps. my .45 cal Hatsan hercules makes 380 ft lbs for over three times as many shots

[@luremakingforfun4190]

This looks like something that allot of very funny videos could be made with

[@supermanley2538]

Finally something affordable at shot show and its not even a gun 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@anthonywhite6432]

Am I able to use tungsten shot and if so how and where do I buy the shot or sabot

[@hksp]

the airsof is getting crazy

[@andysinn8655]

I haven't been able to get ammo for my powder burners for 3 years now.I think this is a cool product but with only 4 shots per fill it would be good for deer but not practical for small game hunting.The arrow shooting gun would be fun for large game.The one question nobody wants to answer about pcp guns is how do they work in cold climate conditions?

[@Dadolphinsmakemecry]

well i was hunting with my Hatsan Vectis .25 cal last small game season on one occasion temps here in Central Florida got to 28 degree one particular morning,bagged 2 squirrels with no problems,other than my fingers were cold af. my PCP works fine in cold weather. CO2 is affected by temp

[@MrYotosun]

Could you touse a normal air compressor to fill it up? Would be more practical than a scuba tank in my opinion.

[@johndeaux3703]

No you need a high pressure compressor.

[@chadbonnerart]

Me: Sweating as I dig out my 77ci 4500psi paintball tank,

[@mr.c.3760]

The hell...didn't even see them shoot the 20g or the arrow gun!

[@collinator68]

I think one can get about 2 street tacos out of a squirrel lol

[@detestthehero]

Never thought i'd see the day I had to plug in my gun.

[@mattrockman1028]

those slugs are great. i use the same ones in 12ga the DSG-12 from ballistic products

[@replicators]

How loud is it when you shoot it?

[@jobo1647]

When is this coming to Canada?

[@TheTeeWorldsfreak]

As a slug machine at 100y it seems quite fun

[@PaleoBushman]

Nice SHILLING for shekels James. LMFAO!

[@texas0bserver729]

Did he just say DOUBLE BARRELED ARROW GUN? AND WHERE THE HOLY SHORT SHORTS IS THAT VIDEO??

[@toddwmac]

Really...bicycle pump? Either the interviewer is a great actor, or he has been living under a rock for the last decade +.

[@LilJollyJoker]

Hey! Is there new Umarex airsoft pistols at SHOT SHow?

[@JimYeats]

There is a difference between ‘reversible’ and ‘ambidextrous’. Cool airgun!

[@Bran_Nuthin]

For the algorithm!

[@starkparker16]

Heck yeah

[@daviddavis1322]

This is super intriguing,

[@PsyFiEye]

I looked into the availability of ammo for this air gun and it looks like there is only one type of slug available which only Umarex makes and it costs $45.99 for a box of 10 slugs. Ouch!

[@T.K.F.]

Great video but when is the rdb s video coming out

[@LaserVelociraptor]

as a German i was like ohhhh ohhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhh nice

[@jamesdickens7666]

Could it be charged up with a compressor? (Construction site style)

[@westcoaststacker569]

No, they require 3,000-4,000 PSI. Nail Gun and tires

[@jr5469]

That chrging handle tho... lol

[@projectsdonepoorly1383]

Holy crap i am buying one

[@puma51921]

Now that is cool.

[@MrKdobbins]

Boys keep the shot cup simple. Wad and paper casing the simpler the better !! Ok

[@wille3303]

is there any variable volume tech where you can keep the PSI up with a 3/4 depleted air tank?

[@zendell37]

Many of these guns are regulated in some way. So it may be a 4000psi rated tank, but with a 1500psi output.

[@life_of_riley88]

Yeah but you won't get the power. It takes lots of air to push a big slug and unless you want the air reservoir to be huge, it's gonna use air, and only get a few shots per fill. There's no way around physics.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

As has already been stated by Zendell, there are plenty of PCP's that are regulated. You might be interested in checking out a bit of information on FX airguns, Daystate, Walther and Weihrauch. Air rifles aren't what they used to be and the competition in that market is fierce. The English love them and are renowned tuners and drivers of the market.

[@davis3138]

It can only shoot four times in one canister, before it needs to be refilled? I'm not so sure about this. So if you're out and about on a range day, to get more than four shots in, you'd have to bring your own pump/tank/compressor? It seems a bit impractical to me. Maybe it really is only meant for hunting, for people who only need to fire four shots. Does not seem practical to me, but everyone else seems to be positive in the comments section. Can someone please enlighten me on this subject, clearly there's something I'm not seeing.

[@gybx4094]

Only for hunting, like here in Michigan we can only have 5 shot capacity for a big game rifle or shotgun.

[@robkirkland7982]

Does it take Glock mags?

[@zendell37]

Requires an adapter.

[@charlesashworth6805]

No it takes repro JM Browning harmonica mags

[@bubbleheadft]

$650 is actually pretty damn reasonable for what that is. Good on em.

[@bradfletcher6826]

That is awesome 😎

[@sporkstar1911]

So its like an air powered Blunderbuss?

[@maxmann8607]

Does anyone know if you can you store the gun with it charged? Meaning charge it up and leave it in a closet for a month and then shoot it? Or will it bleed down or bad for seals to do so?

[@westcoaststacker569]

I believe it is a requirement to keep moisture out.

[@joshjohnston2986]

Other than it sounding like a pain to charge might be cool for plinking

[@missouribattleflag328]

Lewis and Clark took an air gun with them I believe it is in the NRA Museum👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@TheParchedPaladin]

Like Jim Gaffigan's fit, more dangerous dad.

[@MCLEO983]

Damn thats compelling

[@rilesmattix5217]

650!? Wow. Might want one.

[@650tonyd]

Hopefully doesn't have all the problems at the hammer had

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

This is awesome 👍. We have a severe iguana problem in the city... Key West... And it's legal to kill them, but no firearms in the city limits. This will make a great affordable solution. Mostly because everyone here has a SCUBA tank in their closet 😊

[@dlmsarge8329]

Check out Iguana Solutions on KZbin!! Jessica dispatches Florida iguanas super efficiently with airguns. She's a terrific offhand shot, crazy accurate!!

[@ipanzerschrecku4732]

why is that not a bullpub?

[@nunyubizness5483]

Love my bullpup PCPs. Once you go bullpup, no reason to go back. Waiting for the Hatsan Blitz in a bullpup version

[@minigpracing3068]

I hope you checked out The Hammer while you were there, almost twice the power of this new 20 gauge.

[@2Amendment]

Love it

[@Bert439]

Alas I can live my dreams of fighting off vermin like in Metro 2033

[@roosterboy7357]

I’m not a fan of the idea of only having a couple inches of rifling, especially at the muzzle end. Very weird

[@haynbong]

Sold !!!!!!😎🤙

[@mattmarzula]

James is concerned about keeping count... The airgun shoots four shots before reloading.

[@brianleabo6295]

I want one

[@matthewkloep8391]

435 Is barely enough to go deer hunting. Better have a perfect shot.

[@tavelkyosoba]

*Cries in Illinois* this is a firearm under Illinois law.

[@charlesashworth6805]

It's a pneumatic harmonica gun

[@wewon5325]

I'd like to own one of these Come right through the mail oh yeah 😎

[@jeffreydawson1687]

I should have a tax stamp coming back in early spring so it looks like I’ll be adding two devices that’ll shoot quietly

[@zendell37]

Thankfully, airgun suppressors aren't regulated in the same way as normal hearing helpers. Can't wait for the NFA to be repealed.

[@jeffreydawson1687]

Amen to that. This year’s mid term elections are a critical first step.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

@@jeffreydawson1687 yea because the last time we had both chambers and the presidency occupied by Republicans we got so so many gun rights expansions. Oh wait, Donald Trump did more gun control than Obama. And his judges are more concerned with banning abortion than gun rights too.

[@jeffreydawson1687]

That’s why this year’s election is crucial. If we could get some of those RINOs outta office and get some actual conservative candidates voted in, we’d be looking good. Trump was never a 2A guy, he spent the majority of his life as a democrat voter, hobnobbing with the Clintons and other democrat party leaders. People don’t understand how important congress is and that’s why I think we need to get the right guys voted in.

[@Cgp-on1cp]

I just want a powerful multi pump air rifle that's even a .22 caliber for survival but they seem hard to find on any website for sale

[@Cgp-on1cp]

@@Darkjuggernaut99 Yep I've been on a couple of those I think. Maybe I was trying to find a 45 caliber for sale and there weren't any. A .22 caliber should be enough to get a small creature for food if I was in that type of situation ima go with that instead

[@Adam-dp4ks]

@@Cgp-on1cp i can drop small birds no problem with a Wildcat Whisper .177, a .22 should be no problem just make sure it has decent muzzle energy. That being said you can get refurbished rifles for half the price straight from the manufacturer.

[@Cgp-on1cp]

Nice I'll probably get a refurbished from the manufacturer some day. I've got a .17 cal daisy 800 or 880 that I love it could probably get a rabbit. Anything bigger I'd need a .22. A turkey is the only thing bigger than a rabbit I could think of though that's in Oregon

[@Adam-dp4ks]

@@Cgp-on1cp now im not saying ive tried this but 2 shots wont drop a turkey with mine so if your looking for game that size you will definitely need a .22

[@Cgp-on1cp]

@@Adam-dp4ks Okay I won't try a turkey with a .17 cal then good info

[@scottgreen6538]

20 ga slug going 720 fps. The penetration for deer hunting must be horrible.

[@timturner7609]

Might be neat for suburban monster bucks where guns can't be used.

[@newnum2]

It's named after the President/Founder Marty McUmarex

[@grimeye1]

I wonder if I could waterfowl hunt with it

[@shovelguy5390]

Fuckin buying this shit, god damn

[@victorseaton9123]

Buddy of mine bought an $900 Umarex Hammer .50 cal air gun. Lasted 3 shots. Internal spring broke and bolt handle broke off. Bolt handle made of what seemed low grade aluminum or pot metal, just snapped. Look slick but cheap, cheap components. Very slick videos in KZbin but buyer beware.