Which One is Best?! Oculus Rift S Vs HTC Vive

Which one should you buy in 2019? Oculus have recently discontinued the original Oculus Rift and replaced it with the new Rift S, but HTC are still selling their original HTC Vive and they're roughly in the same price category, so which one is the better option?
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◘ HTC Vive - amzn.to/2KjTL8K
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[@Neil3D]

Amazon US Links: ◘ Oculus Rift S - amzn.to/31qsffn ◘ HTC Vive - amzn.to/2KjTL8K Amazon UK Links: ◘ Oculus Rift S - amzn.to/31rhgTT ◘ HTC Vive - amzn.to/2MO924P

[@anormalguy8407]

whats your ipd if i could ask. It would help to see if your eyes fall i nthe more common group of people that like it.

[@LongTimeAgoNL]

I got the Rift S. Rift S controllers are both touch-sensitive and pressure sensitive. However, Steam has not updated its Steam VR yet to recognize the new controllers, so it still recognizes it as the old Touch controllers. This is fine for most games, but it can indeed cause some strange 'sensitive' touch accidents when a game does not support it. Within Oculus software and games they feel extremely nice. Audio is 'fine'. Sure it misses the bass and deep tones, but its good enough for most games. Its also a extremely good in making you hear 360 degrees around you. The 10 hz downgrade is unnoticable for most people, unless you are a real purist. The LCD screen is higher resolution and integrates a very good frame smoothing model whilst being faster in response times which ALSO reduces nausea for lots of people. (Why do people never mention this?) OLED Panels are slow and can therefor cause nausea quicker for many people. Certainly not everyone, but the Rift S LCD might be more comfortable for most. HOWEVER, my biggest complaint with the Rift S is the lack of Manual IPD adjustment. Its 'software based' and that is absolutely bad, absolutely horrid sadly. My eyes are the absolute maximum (70 or 72mm, measured it myself) size that it supports and I can still see through the headset clearly, but every 'bump' that makes the headset shift up-down-left-right only miniscule is already noticable by me. Whilst the GF who has an IPD more in the range of 62-64 (more average), does not notice these issues as fast. Solutions to some problems: Black screens: Turn off Steam VR AND Oculus software. Start up the Oculus software first, put on the headset, start the Steam VR again. Steam VR and Oculus Software 'miscommunications': DO NOT Start Steam VR before Oculus is fully started and you put on the headset. You do not need to do any setup for Steam VR after Oculus has been started and the room is configured. (which takes less than a minute if it 'forgets') Play in dark room: You can play in a dark room, just make sure to put on atleast one light source. The headset will warn you if its too dark, but I only got that once and it was really dark in the room when that happened. Make sure to wipe off the sensors with a soft cloth if it gives too many "its too dark" errors whilst its actually not thát dark. Tracking of the controllers sometimes goes funky, even if its within a sensor view: Clean the sensors with a soft cloth. Hope my comments help some people. The Rift S is not meant as a "2nd gen VR" upgrade from the Vive or Rift, more as a "We see the future of VR heading this way and we want people that have not experienced VR yet, to step in now." according to oculus' vision.

[@Neil3D]

I couldn't address a lot of the points you raised without this video descending off into 30+ minutes of rambling, you kinda have to pick and chose what to include in things like this. i.e. the 10Hz downgrade is noticeable only when you swap between the Vive and Rift S in quick succession, in my opinion it was stand out noticeable as I had completely forgot about the refresh rate until I put on the Vive and it was immediately noticeably smoother... like holy shit why does this feel so much more fluid oh yea I forgot the panel is at 90Hz! But as I summarised in the video it isn't an issue at all with the Rift S at all. Regarding the response times of the panel, that wasn't noticeable to me so I wasn't going to mention that. But yea I agree with everything else you've said but again I have to try and simplify it somewhat. The 2nd generation thing is just semantics, 2nd revision, 2nd version, 2nd generation, its open to interpretation on what a new generation is but it really doesn't matter. Cheers for the input!

[@LongTimeAgoNL]

@@Neil3D thank you for the reply! yeah I agree. your general point of the rift S comes across perfectly though. for "'first gen vr adopters" its not worth the upgrade. for newcomers its a fantastic product at this pricerange.

[@Oliiivess]

Which is better Oculus rift 2 or the HTC vive.

[@foshobear]

I have a question, I get my Rift S tomorrow and I wasnt aware of the AA batteries in the controllers. For me that sounds like it could be a deal-breaker. How often do you need to recharge/change the batteries in the controllers?

[@koltic9687]

foshobear I ordered my headset a few days ago, and according to videos I’ve seen they last upwards of twenty hours of use between changing them. This means that on average you’ll only need to change them once a fortnight, give or take depending on how much you use them.

[@FartGaming-kf9vw]

Thank me later 15:01

[@predatorleader]

this needs more likes

[@mrbateman794]

Thx for that

[@Lukas-ib4sn]

Thx

[@quickshot_1575]

Thanks

[@Neil3D]

Aye thx, like you wouldn't be all over the comments slagging me off if I didn't explain the reasoning behind the 15:01 conclusion. Have a scroll down and tell all the people saying "you didn't talk about headphone jacks etc etc" that I already talked about too much. Cheers.

[@sebrodd3154]

This is the greatest description of all time 12:22

[@Neil3D]

Yep I know I look outrageously insufferably tired in this video, but there's a good reason for that... I bloody well am shattered!

[@SmallLilDemon]

Can you do a review on the shadow 2 gaming pc sometime? Almost no one has reviews on it, and it’s a low cost VR/gaming pc around $900. It is or was, an Amazon best seller. It says that it is also designed for VR gaming. I have it, I would like to see someone do a review on it. Thank you

[@Neil3D]

@@SmallLilDemon I don't think it's available in the UK where I am, however it's just built from regular parts so it could probs be custom built for cheaper. The new Ryzen 3000 series CPUs are gonna be out soon though so they'll be the go-to choice for a build like that in a couple of months time

[@djentleman7]

"The bass for example sounds like a child slapping a wet lettuce with a stick" - possibly the greatest remark in human history lollllllll

[@djups0686]

Thank you kindly for 0:19. I know it doesn't necessarily get your video watched all the way through, but for those of us whose time is at a premium, it's a godsend.

[@miguelg1931]

Thank for the review it was very in depth and was surprised at the end with your decision but it was very understandable with the market plus everything going for it you made good points and this video has made me that much knowledgeable about the two headsets thx again.

[@brandonspike]

Been looking at Amazon reviews today, and this video really helped summarize both headsets. Great video, I appreciate it.

[@BloodPlusPwn]

Thanks for the detailed review! Really helped me a lot.

[@alanmountain5804]

You answered all my questions buddy. A top Video and I thank you

[@ianhughes6123]

Thanks Bud - really helpful and confirmed my choice. Nice one.

[@J.D_7]

Thank you for this, very helpful.

[@livelaux4309]

Thanks for the vid it really helped me!!!

[@ricardocYT]

I’ve had an HTC vive for a while now but i want an oculus device to play oculus medium, is there any newer models I can use with some fixed problems?

[@winstinwarps]

seems that there is a bit of a bias here. Surprised to see that oculus rift s still came out on top after all of the dissing throughout the video.

[@Neil3D]

Bias is a bit overly dramatic, it's a preference. I bought everything here with my money and this is an opinion piece on which I prefer and which I'd buy again. I think I did a thorough enough job on explaining why too. There's no bias, if anything the bias would be towards the Vive as I owned that for 3 years and the rift only for a few weeks.

[@bjvink0130]

@@Neil3D how in the world can you like the bulky, heavy and noticable vive controllers over the sleek, light and natural oculus controllers

[@MRHanz97]

@@bjvink0130 It's subjective isn't it, he's used to the vive controllers.

[@estone1256]

@@bjvink0130 If you are playing VR with something heavy(like a sword or beat saber) in your hand, light controllers can feel unnatural. The heavier controllers make it feel like you are actually holding things.

[@rsantos627]

I didn't see the bias. He explained why he chose Rift S. The improved visuals. If you're going to be in VR that's pretty crucial. As he said the other things he can modify or improve on his own so they are weighted less for marks. It was a fair review in my opinion. A buddy of mine has the Vive. It was amazing. I have wanted one for awhile. Looking at purchasing one for Christmas. I have a gaming PC now to support a PC-based VR. I couldn't afford both at the same time. With the improved visuals and the more plug and play connectivity of Oculus I'm leaning toward that.

[@ejh206]

I may have just got here a year later but damn bro, I cant thank you enough!! Much love and you just gained a sub for sure

[@calalclab]

Quite a comprehensive review! Thanks

[@ronanasche7063]

You are an incredibly underrated youtuber! Keep making videos!

[@curtiswilliams6754]

Earned a sub great description of both. I ordered a rift s can't wait to play on it. It will be my first VR device

[@edgarlindo1284]

I still love my HTC vive even its old the HTC vive was the choice vr headset to used in an arcade vr gaming station .

[@finebeast2590]

you just got a sub from me dude... this review really helped thanks.

[@larryharris3530]

Thanks for the review. Well done and it helped me decide on the Rift-s for my first VR rig. Does one have to use the controllers for Flight sims?

[@Neil3D]

No probs. It would be up to the flight Sim software but I doubt it, I do driving sims and I don't use the vr controllers

[@TheSlyDragon93]

Do you still suggest the Oculus Rift S today during pandemic era or is there a newer one coming around the corner anytime soon?

[@turtledogaming5634]

Super helpful thank you soooo much!!

[@TheWWWyrm]

Don't you mind sharing what camera you are using to film this video? Thanks!

[@georgepetropoulos1827]

Just saw this one after many months. it is Great seeing TFI do this. :)

[@colossebdumont879]

price of the OG vive dropped to 400$, aka same as the Rift S, would you still recommend the latter ?

[@Iwitrag]

Not in Europe though, still overpriced.

[@harrisonclark3799]

Iwitrag doesn’t answer his question at all

[@aqilardi5266]

Only if you wanna upgrade to the index then maybe yes. But the visuals on the vive aren't really good by today's standards

[@Weg002]

Where I live there is a VR arcade and they have HTC vives so I am sort of biased towards the vive next time i go there I'm going to look out for the cons

[@globoaviacao]

Thanks a lot for this video! I have sold my Vive for the Index, but I coudn’t get it, so I was thinking in buying the Rift S.

[@mrcatto3d813]

Definitely get the Rift S!! I got it week ago and its more than Amazing.. Jeez all the features and tech for 399$

[@A_Small_Game_Cat]

I bought my Rift S this February (this year) and it was brilliant until this week.. Now I can't game for more than 30 minutes without the headset shutting down with a sudden flatline like sound,then black screen and sharp static noise.. The game sound then continues in the HMD but no picture.. I've made sure the PC is up to date with everything (which BTW is brand new) and nothing helps.. Waiting for Oculus to deal with my complaint.. The worrisome thing is I'm not the only one with this issue

[@pimplefivehead2006]

Great video! My brother has an OG Rift and it was a blast to play, but haven't been able to decide on the Vive, Rift S, or Quest. I think one of the Oculous products will be perfect for me with limited space and like you I can live with the downsides for the better resolution.

[@malcolm341]

@TFI I'm looking to buy the Rift S and I'm wondering about the audio, do I just use my regular headphones that are already plugged into my PC and place those on top of the Rift S? Do I disable the onboard audio, or is there a headphone jack on the rift that I use?

[@ShortandQuickNYC]

'The audio on the rift S is terrible, it lacks deep tones and proper bass. All channels tend to stay flat and noticeable "low quality". Its like turning a video from 1080 to 360. Its best you use your own headset, besides that, the S is a great startup vr set.

[@malcolm341]

@@ShortandQuickNYC thanks for your reply, is there a headphone Jack on Rift S, or do I just use my regular PC headset that is already working for audio on the PC?

[@ShortandQuickNYC]

@@malcolm341 Yes, they do have one. Although, personally i've experienced problems with volume depending on which of my buds or headsets i plug in. A pair of skullcandy buds work great, they also work with my Bose QC35. Again, as mentioned --i recommend using your headset if you're trying to get immersed with better auditory quality.

[@malcolm341]

@@ShortandQuickNYC Thanks, yeah I'll use my PC headset.

[@allucardbelmont3074]

hey mate great video i was hoping if you have the time to read this:) i have a question i currently own a ps4 vr headset and its great and all but the graphics are realy bad in most games and the library is small. i recently upgraded my pc to a i7 9700kf with 16 gb ram and a msi geforce 1070TI so i am fairly confident it will run vr games but if im wrong plz tell me now:P. so i wanted to make the step to vr on pc and i was wondering from stepping over from ps4 to one of the 2 that you are talking about. will the oculus s be good for me or shud i go for the htc and will my pc be able to handle it. sorry for the bad grammar my english grammar isn't so good :P thanks in advance!

[@acidmodz360playz6]

Download the steam vr test it will till you what you need to upgrade but I think that the setup you have will work

[@danialothman]

love the honest raw review

[@nickp5815]

My only problem with getting the Oculus Rift S is the tracking. Does it support full room scale? Can I play Fallout 4 VR on it with no problems? And is the tracking good in the dark or just in general?

[@devrav1ty136]

There is full room tracking for sure. I don’t know about fallout 4 vr but you definitely need light in order for the tracking to work, you don’t need a ton of light but a normal amount.

[@nickp5815]

@@devrav1ty136 That kind of sucks because I like to play in the dark so that no light is passing through the sides. I feel more immersed that way.

[@peterhjort05]

The Gordon Ramsey of tech. Btw great review :)

[@ethop8273]

very high quality video and was just what i needed for when i was deciding what vr headset to get ( i chose the oculus rift s ) Thanks!

[@lickweedlucid2527]

Hey did the rift s meet expectations? if you don't mind me asking ^^

[@ethop8273]

Oh yea it’s amazing, at first I didn’t know what to expect as this is my first VR headset but trying it on for the first time was very comfortable and smooth. The inside out tracking makes everything so much easier with setting it all up and I haven’t had a single problem with tracking for the 30+ hours I’ve been in VR... I’m very happy with my decision and I couldn’t recommend it enough especially for the cheaper price and better screen than most of the other headsets.

[@skedyt]

@@ethop8273 have you ever tried vive and is it any different?

[@ethop8273]

@@skedyt no I haven't, but i have tried the PSVR which is quite similar to the vive with things like resolution. the oculus has a higher resolution which improves the experience massively, and also the whole 'set up' is much easier than the vives as you don't need sensors set up around the room which makes life just so much easier. if you have any other questions just ask as im happy to help.

[@mansagibbo9724]

How much space do you use when playing? I have a space in my room which is around 2 by 3 meters is that enough? I’m getting a vr headset either way just wondering

[@Gerbsert]

You talk like a teacher and I love it

[@IndieVR]

Thanks for the video mate, very informative. I wanted to ask you if you have any idea how the rift s would run games on a 1660ti i5 7400 12gb (gb I can upgrade easily)? Especially a game like half life alyx. I am selling my psvr and looking for a PC VR headset. Steam says it would work above high settings, its very hard to get the specific answer to my question. Thanks again. subbing now!

[@dmitrijpopovich9789]

Great video, thanks👍

[@tootbitaj]

I wanted to buy the rift s but realized I want full body tracking too. Wouldn’t that headset require tons of add ons for full body?

[@bigbluewobblything]

Thanks TFI, great to hear a local Geordie review tech (question at the end) I bought a rift s and an entry level pc after using the work HTC vive vr system and I’m really happy with the performance. I’m no expert and have only seen these two systems, but I agree with everything this review stated. The vive does feel a better product with better audio but.... the s is lighter, better visuals and an easier set up. For a newbie like me, that’s better and now the price of an S is down to £350, that’s where I spent my money. My newbie question is what difference would be noticeable to the visuals if I upgraded my GPU from a Nvidia GTX 1060 to something newer and faster to say Beat Sabre or Robo Recall?

[@Martencell]

I would like to buy the rift s but I don't know if I should, o fear that It wouldn't be compatible with my eyes because of the fact that I can't control the width between the lenses

[@larryroberts2953]

With all the issues I have been hearing about with the Oculus Rift S, would you still purchase it over the Vive?

[@setMaddy]

I’d honestly get a vive personally, I like something with a nice heft, so it feels like it’ll last, and also, a little bit of style points there.

[@Neil3D]

Reluctantly yes, the software issues seem to be getting worse for me before they're getting better. But I've bought a further two Rift S devices for use at work, purely on the strength of the ease of installation and setup. I can go to someones desk in an open plan office with my laptop and Rift S, and enable VR right then and there. The Vive is a far more static permanent install in a dedicated space. But tbh for home use, I think I'm beginning to lean more towards the Vive again as the software issues roll on with the Rift S. It's like they've got zero idea they exist, or have no interest in addressing them.

[@megren6489]

I am new in the VR world and i will wait for Black Friday to get a good deal , but idk what to choose between Oculus Rift S Vs HTC Vive ?!

[@zeroaesthetics2339]

Well like he said, the rift s overall has the better visuals and resolution which prob was the deal breaker for me over the vive. Personally once black friday/cyber monday comes I will be picking up the rift s, I can manage the build of it, even if its cheaper, the tracking also sounds better, since your hands are always in front of you so there really shouldn't be any trouble there. However that means that you have to play in light, which is fine by me... somewhat lol. Also price differential, rift s is much much cheaper, so :D

[@megren6489]

@@zeroaesthetics2339 well .. thank you for the response .. I think about the Rift s too because it's new too! and better quality .. i will wait for black Friday to get good price xD

[@mansagibbo9724]

I’m waiting for Black Friday cyber Monday too, oculus has quest and rift 50$ off. Idk about vive but on the HTC website a vive retails for 399. Exact same as rift S. I’m going to go with rift S though

[@noonxrs]

for the HTC vive and Oculus rift A few questions will my laptop handle this? Aspire F5-573G GeForce 940mx Intel core i5-7200U 2.50GHz 2.70GHz 8GB RAM by "minimum" do they mean to run smooth or to even run at all?

[@bigchungusgamer22bruh27]

Nope

[@thegrayrabbit7949]

If I were to go from the high refresh rate psvr to the rift s, would it be something that would be uncomfortable or less immersive? I’m not prone to motion sickness or anything like that, I’m just worried that the lower refresh rate might be hard to get over coming from the psvr

[@Evaks]

psvr is very bad.. just go with the oculus or something

[@marsl8603]

A great vide! I was interested in VR since the moment it came out. I watched it evolve, and I think it is a good time for me to get on the train, but I struggled with choosing between the Rift S and the Vive. Thanks to this video, and the glorious comment section I have finally made a choice. I'll go for the Rift S.

[@primeluca2375]

thinking about doing the same. are you happy with it?

[@Nick-mt7id]

​@@primeluca2375 I bought the rift S too two weeks ago, The reasons why I would want to switch to vive: 1. The possibility to upgrade to full body is easier & cheaper with the vive HTC. 2. In the dark there is bad tracking with the rift S and I wish I could play in darkness. 3. I don't like the oculus software since I'm a steam user it's now again another software thing and I like to keep everything on one platform. Although these points, I still won't trade it for a vive since I heard bad stuff about the visuals and weight distrubution of the vive HTC. I had no problem with the IPD settings since luckily I'm around the average of 64mm.

[@AsianJBlazian]

how did the oculus rift s perform in fps games? like pavlov? i heard that the oculus rift s has a problem with tracking when aiming down sights.

[@avian4138]

the tracking was fixed a couple months ago, its pretty insane and shouldnt cause any problems

[@AsianJBlazian]

@@avian4138 so basically the tracking is the same as the htc vive?

[@theotakuchannel3154]

@@AsianJBlazian ive never had a issue with pavlov with oculus rift s

[@AsianJBlazian]

@@theotakuchannel3154 interesting.

[@theotakuchannel3154]

AsianJBlazian the only issue I’ve ever had with oculus is in some games like plasmophobia you have to change movement to headset rather then controller because it moves weirdly if you don’t

[@pluspen00]

SO SO HELPFUL THX

[@pluspen00]

I bought VIVE thx a lot 🙏🏻

[@dave2blame444]

Great Video, I am one of the people that was very angry at Oculus for making the S, but I bought it anyway, and so glad I did. The visuals alone on the S are the reason my old CV1 became a bookend!

[@TornadoGod1]

why were you "angry"? xD GOD DAMN IT, THEY CREATED A NEW TECH

[@q6x]

@@TornadoGod1 because they discontinued cv1 for a new version that has some downsides

[@dave2blame444]

@@TornadoGod1 lol... because they discontinued the CV1, and I was like, why the hell would they do that? Even still The new S does not fit everyone that wants to get into VR, so for that I'm still scratching my head as to why Oculus chose that path, but I am enjoying the S none the less.

[@TornadoGod1]

@@q6x the fact it's discontinued doesn't disable you from using your first oculus. Plus, sure it has downsides, but I think the positives outweighs the negatives and in the end, it makes it much more worth it than the CV1 given the fact they're the same price.

[@q6x]

@@TornadoGod1 true, but you never know, there could be someone who was either waiting to buy it or going to recommend it to someone

[@Ro7z13]

thanks helped me find a upgrade to my rift s

[@rasmusandersenabildgaard4604]

thanks for this great review! And thanks for your honest opinion :) Are you going to make a review of the new HTC VIVE PRO? :)

[@Neil3D]

Thanks man and nope, the Vive Pro is far from new at this point but I will be doing quite a few videos on the Vive Cosmos which comes out this week. Definitely need to get my moneys worth out of buying that!!

[@Glumpnar]

I have been into vr for a while now and I am planning to buy one soon. I had my eye on the original rift but realized they had stoped making them. The only thing that is holding me back from buying a rift s is the controller tracking. I do not want to get a vr that isn’t very immersive and loses tracking on my hands frequently.

[@mrmarco5039]

Cherry Man I think it’s fixed now. Also this guy is biased towards vive if you want an actual review this isn’t the place.

[@jangold4652]

if i can get the vive for 200 instead of 300 for rift s wich one should i get

[@vidaaghazadeh64]

Can someone just say which one is better

[@tidy7517]

When u released the rift s controller clip u put quite a lot of pressure on it ngl. But thanks for the info! EDIT: Bit late soz

[@FatNorthernBigot]

You've clearly got a soft spot for your Vive... I'm wondering which one to go for. Upgrading from an Oculus Go.

[@bladeealbania]

Rift s, cheaper and higher res, and controllers are tons better.

[@Shinegamikira]

I like my vive and vive pro the best. But the oculus rift s is really good too. If you can, test them out before you buy. It really is up to your own preference =^_^=

[@curly5994]

Shinegamikira where would do you test it out?

[@MarkusGlesnes]

@@curly5994 Friends house, maybe a shop. I tested out HTC Vive at a company visit.

[@johnbaldauff5531]

@@curly5994 microcenters usually has a VR setup in their stores

[@lincolnboland3905]

im conflicted, i dont really want external sensors but if i have to use them i will, but he said that the oculus settings may conflict with steam vr, but if i can still do steam vr it should be fine. can anyone help me on which one i should get because im about to get one and it would be helpful before i made my purchase.

[@lincolnboland3905]

what!! Thanks

[@jacobandrews2696]

Personally picked up a vive recently, steam vr is just a much more holistic experience with its built in web browser and TV mirroring. That, and I wanna slowly upgrade to the index over time possible starting with the controllers and then getting the headset and the vive allows you to do that super easily. I really appreciate Facebook making vr available to everyone and let's get more people in multiplayer lobbies! But there's no doubt for me that if you want the ultimate be experience and are willing to spend the cash, the steam vr systems are the way to go

[@Deathano0bGaming]

I love my htc vive but I find the weight distribution is awful, even with my delux audio strap and hours of fitting the headset so the weight is more on my back, the headset feels really heavy after about an hour of play. I dont wanna say its uncomphterble to wear cause its very comfy. It just feels like it weighs alot. I saw somewhere that the rift s actually weighs a bit more then the vive but when I tried my freinds the headset felt 10x lighter idk why.

[@CodeRipple]

Can I play the same games on both of them because I’m thinking of getting a rift s but I want to play some steam games

[@miles6421]

Both the vive and oculus work with steam vr, but the oculus has optional access to the oculus store which is built into the software that makes the headset run. The oculus store has some exclusives that are not playable on the Vive without 3rd party assistance.

[@Jjz0289]

Is there games that the vibe can play that the oculus can’t or are they both just the same with different names. I just want to know because I’m buying a oculus rift s soon and I want to know

[@marshingo5262]

You can still play games on steam with an Oculus S. I'm an oculus owner so I'm not sure if the vive can pay oculus games or not. There are some games on steam where the oculus has some compatibility issues but it's mostly with things like individual fingers being tracked on the controller

[@Debu227]

I have a rift s and here’s all the problems I have with it and why I’m considering selling and getting a vive Controllers: Feel very cheap and breakable Tracking ring might cause some people to experience what’s called a “handclap” Tracking: In BONEWORKS the insight tracking can’t track behind you so climbing and the body slot on you butt is hard and sometimes near impossible to reach After shutting down my computer my Guardian play space will slightly move and after long enough the guardian is so off center that you can punch a wall and the guardian doesn’t show up Headset itself: Halo headband allows shaking when doing large, violent, or quick motions the headset will shake making everything blurry or worst case scenario, the headset flying off your head entirely (I’ve experienced)

[@turkeysandwich2779]

Do you stream on twitch?

[@alqxf]

So I want to play five nights at freddys vr: help wanted on steam which is better?

[@breaux2806]

I 100% prefer the touch controllers, it feels more natural and more interactive. I like being able to somewhat forget that I'm holding controllers in-game

[@adamnielson5647]

Interesting. He kinda starts of negative on the rift s but the resolution really got the big thumbs up. Good info. Thanks.

[@ba1lev122]

I got an Oculus ad right before this vid.

[@Spike22269]

The quest is taking over for vr since it's so accessable for average consumers im not surprised😂

[@rhun3]

They are watching you...

[@elbuhdai605]

Every single part of my roommates Vive has broken and needed repairs at least once during the school year. A controller, A lighthouse, and eventually the headset itself needed repairs. I'm a little hesitant to get a Vive for that reason.

[@Rithari]

Get the Oculus RIft S, hands down.

[@saymaker3545]

HTC Vive and oculus Rift s have the same games right?

[@TheValkian]

I'm in the market finally for a VR headset. But unsure if there's a new headset coming out. So if anyone could assist on that or wait for a new one.

[@Neil3D]

Wait for the Vive Cosmos which is coming within 2 weeks, I’ve got one on pre-order and will be doing some vids on it

[@SamueIx]

On the Rift S, if my hands were behind my back, how well would it track?

[@draco9566]

Would like to know too

[@skalx]

@@draco9566 it tracks for 1.5 seconds using the gyroscope + accelerometer. When the controllers are visible to the cameras it tracks it instantly

[@Iwitrag]

It will predict next movement for about 2 seconds correctly. Then it will look like you stopped moving.

[@draco9566]

So it won’t track at all lmao, all it tracks is the rotation of the controller

[@Iwitrag]

@@draco9566 Exactly. I have been using Rift S for several months now and I never had problems with that. How often you put your hands behind your lower back in VR?

[@mysterygamer48]

I haven’t had any experience with the new oculus or a vibe but a problem I have with the old oculus is the triggers are super soft and i wish they were a bit harder to press down other than that I love it

[@theghastlygamer5326]

The best controllers were the original rift ones. And it had magnetic cover and i have never had them come off in game olay. As a matter of fact it takes some effort when I am trying to.take it off

[@ThiccBoi711]

These have magnetic covers too. I've never had a problem with them slipping off during gameplay

[@runthar2191]

@@ThiccBoi711 ya but the og touch was just built better, new ones are fine, but I don't think anything will ever surpass the reliability of the og controllers

[@Carebear_Pooh]

And then oculus released the oculus link and suddenly the rift s is pointless. Honestly they should’ve made the rift s the best they could’ve made it. It would be a reason to choose the rift s over the quest with oculus link. Now the difference is way too small. Right now the vr market is so confusing I don’t know what to buy. I have a 2070 super so my pc can handle the index, but it also has the usb-c port for easy connection for oculus link. I just want a good headset with good tracking, no matter what way I’m facing or where my hands are.

[@matttjjj]

I’m thinking of buying the Oculus Rift S. Does anybody know if they fixed any/all of these problems now in July 2020? (I’m trying to find people who have maybe a newer model?)

[@dailybugle2147]

Own the rift s and I haven't had any issues. Been working pretty fine.

[@matttjjj]

Cayde-6 ok, good to know. Thanks the help. 🙏

[@spacedoutET]

I understand people may think something like a oculus rift s may not feel like it will last. However, i have the psvr and had it since launch. It i imagine has the same feel as the rift s and my psvr has not had 1 issue. No breaks, marks, etc in almost 3 years. Its like new. At the end of the day, i find its more the way people treat their stuff than the other way around. Ive heard even solid products get broke by certain people and think......hmmm. Lol. At the end of the day, its only designed to sit on your head and move in the direction you look. If it where being used in a real life boxing or ufc fight, id expect it to break. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the review. Im looking into the rift s myself. 😉👍

[@biggiecheese9915]

they also sell replacements for all accessories at a price that is not outrageous in my opinion

[@lucasschofield8716]

The review was great and very informative, but I always feel let down whenever someone recommends Amazon, given the utterly horrendous things they do on a regular basis.

[@theeasternblok6349]

You sir make a lot of sense

[@CiCaruana]

Not really sure why anyone was giving you shit for just explaining your logic in depth. Even though you ultimately concluded the Rift S was best for you, this video really helped me feel better about jumping ship to the Vive after the Facebook requirement forced me to retire my CV1 early, thanks man!

[@certifiedlampost8587]

can it go in laptops

[@JSRMedia]

Brilliant!

[@yeeteth5541]

So I have extremely bad eyesight and I heard something about the rift s not working well with people with that issues, is this true?

[@Neil3D]

News to me, as far as I know the optics are similar but you can wear glasses with the Rift but you can’t with the Vive.

[@yeeteth5541]

TFI - CAD & Technology For Industry Thank you, greatly appreciate it

[@dalaube]

@@Neil3D You can definitely wear glasses with the vive. Maybe it's different for the vive pro?

[@SMalcolmB]

I want the Rift S purely for the better picture, less sde. The thing stopping me is lack of IPD adjustment. At 7cm my eyes are too far apart for this headset. Wouldn't have cost them much more to make the lenses movable at least.

[@kalfaxplays7899]

i'd love an updated video on rift s to see if the issues were fixed.

[@saymaker3545]

When I want to see the price of oculus rift s I see 399$, but thats the price when Im in US. When I change it to Germany then the price becomes 529$. WHY?!

[@snuzd2675]

Your cat is so cute😂

[@chrisdourakis4804]

Which one is the most comfortable to wear with glasses? Anyone knows ?

[@stefordlucky6056]

You will have to wear contact lenses probably.

[@chrisdourakis4804]

@ABigRiceBall That helps a lot, thank you!

[@clayfoley1523]

my guy you are wonderful i would have more ability to play with the rift and you just sold it to me

[@nz540im3]

What about compared to vive pro?

[@montielol7128]

Will it work for vrchat

[@moncimoov]

what about vive pro?

[@SmallLilDemon]

God yes, I wanted this video so badly!!!!!! And ya I’m getting the VIVE still. And the sound on the rift s sounding like a baby sounding like wet lettuce! Lol Thank you!!

[@Neil3D]

Mate the Vive still rocks, I had to give a definitive one or the other answer but the Vive is still a cracking device and I love how over the top it is with fancy base stations and ridiculous cables!

[@jkbailey32288]

I have no issues with the rift s sound.

[@alejandrob-c2277]

@@jkbailey32288 😂

[@jkbailey32288]

@@alejandrob-c2277 🤷‍♂️

[@doylebbq4329]

use headphones, not a big deal

[@Shiftrr]

Does the Rifts S have a headphone 3mm jack to plug in headphones like the vive? Can you wear over the headphones with the Rift S?

[@ThiccBoi711]

it does on the side

[@Shiftrr]

RoyalRaptor thanks no one talks about that?

[@Neil3D]

There’s lots of things we (creators) don’t talk about, because add them all together and you’ve got a 45-50 minute video and then the bulk of the feedback is how you waffle and ramble too much, the video is too long shorten it down etc. And then you get people saying you didn’t talk about stuff when you actually did! Anyway, basically I didnt talk about it because they both have jacks, so there’s no advantage for one or the other, I don’t use headphones anyway as I use PC speakers, and I think I might have just forgot as I was cobbling this together last minute!

[@elppu.]

Im a psvr user have tried vive once and it was a bad experience bc it felt it was smashing my face. So im getting a Rift S

[@ethanbetchan6593]

Which one will be better for future VR Gaming?

[@thisarobbry3226]

probably vive because it comes with base stations and if you want to upgrade to the index you can use vive's base stations. the knuckles also work with vive

[@ZxroYoutube]

-- eh, not so much, the vive is over 3 years old

[@josh_active]

He just described my life at the beginning

[@brittensomerville8883]

???

[@Gamen4Bros]

comparing them *head to head* was a good choice haha