I love the idea of a Honda Grom. I DONT love the idea of a Honda Grom after stealership markup
@michaelpendleton21583 жыл бұрын
I agree, been looking myself. Ill pay 3300......I won't pay 4200
@310smoker3 жыл бұрын
yeh but , the oil filter
@prestonm.48743 жыл бұрын
maybe all the cool kids will be ditching their old versions for the new ones and you can get a cheaper used one. the honda monkey at my stealership was only 1k more out the door than msrp
@aurorajones84813 жыл бұрын
Find a good dealer. Mine doesn't charge mark up. Hell i got a full blown CBR1000 SP RR-R number 13 for MSRP! Sales tax was my only bump. Not all of them are scumbags.
@johnnessuno65152 жыл бұрын
1k markup on a 3.5k bike is like 30 per cent mate
@birofilm3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kase and Team TFL. I like the videos you and Alex create. Your information is perfectly relevant and since I am 5 foot 10 inches and 160 pounds I totally get your feedback and understand where you are coming from. I went from small dirt bikes to larger off-road bikes to large street bikes and a very fast CBR 900RR. Some of my most fun experiences were on the small bikes.
@roninvirtues80123 жыл бұрын
You can have more fun on a slower bike than a fast bike. Like a Miata, it’s slow yeah, but you’ll have the funnest drive.
@Image-X3 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. I have many bikes and while little bikes are fun….. the fast bikes are by far the more fun.
@justin________74773 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's fun to hammer through the gears and listen to the motor, I don't really care about going stupid fast on 2 wheels.
@nymetsfan9123 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have a 2015 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 and the 2015 650. I enjoy whipping the 650 more as I bang thru the gears. Also lighter and easier to maneuver.
@zsirrr3 жыл бұрын
Cuz it’s more fun to ride fast on a slow bike than to ride slow on a fast bike. I’ve never had so much fun just running errands in town
@Chocolate_dragon3 жыл бұрын
@@Image-X yeah is sure fun to be able to use 10% of your bike riding to work….fun at the track for sure…I sold my fast bike and bought a sorta fast bike. But I can actually use most of the power. I can only go to the track a few times a summer…I can ride to work every day
@CompareMoto2 жыл бұрын
That looked super fun! Really enjoyed the video thoroughly! Keep up the good work!
@jackorear25363 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video. That was a great review and that little machine looks like a lot of fun!
@josephstacey12502 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the 'Great Videos' - You guys are the only one's that I have found that gives a price range with your 'Excellent' reviews. At 63 yrs and retired, I have never owned a motorcycle. I am looking for a small bike just for fun and the video's are the perfect info for a guy like me. Thanks Again , See Ya !! / P. S. I'm subscribed !! I'll be watching !!
@NickVetter2 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of people with used grom around my area and they pretty much all ask $3000+. Some are pretty much new but I might just order the 2022 since the upgrade has some features I really like.
@stevecoward35432 жыл бұрын
Still have the original 2014 version, love it to bits!
@ryan498053 жыл бұрын
I love these new ones. The blue one is awesome!!! Just wish the circles were hidden or painted blue to match and it would look much better 👀. I’m sure that can be easily fixed aftermarket though
@NickVetter2 жыл бұрын
Maybe just paint them or plasti dip it yourself. Plasti dip would be easy to fix if you mess up.
@mehmedii7594 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one. Pick it up this weekend. Can't wait
@Chris-sk3wg2 жыл бұрын
How did I not know y’all had a tfl bike channel. Safe to say I’m a subscriber now
@NYCJaymc072 жыл бұрын
Great video new friend I appreciate the quality of it.
@dedosauro3 жыл бұрын
Having a group of friends like this is the best thing ever, 100% fun 0% worries about the risks of riding faster bikes Im planning to buy a couple of these lil bois for me and my girlfriend to have fun together
@fortcrafterbossbehold90272 жыл бұрын
@Random-user Like what????
@fortcrafterbossbehold90272 жыл бұрын
@Random-user I would take bikes over sex any day of the week or year of my life...
@fortcrafterbossbehold90272 жыл бұрын
@Random-user Damn bro, that would be lit if I didn't hate sex in all it's existence with every fiber of my being, but I do, so yeah not for me...
@fortcrafterbossbehold90272 жыл бұрын
@Random-user Ohhhhhhhh yes I do... I hate sex more than I hate terrorists!!!
@fortcrafterbossbehold90272 жыл бұрын
@Random-user I hate sex more than I hate Biden!!!
@MotoloverMLZone2 жыл бұрын
Nice video ❤️, I just got a brand new 2021 Grom. It really fun to ride❤️
@mauroignelzi3293 жыл бұрын
I got my Super Cub over a year ago and 7000 miles later still love it so the Grom should be no different
@dragomirstijovic55693 жыл бұрын
Smaller wheel are more fun but I would prefer bigger for longer rides and awful roads in my country
@oakoso263 жыл бұрын
Based supercub enjoyer
@gooch10783 жыл бұрын
Did you get the valve clearances checked at 4000 miles as recommended in the manual? If so how much did it cost you.
@DrRyan829943 жыл бұрын
yeah cross shopping them for sure
@MrFieleke692 жыл бұрын
Great video! I never knew of the Barber Motorsports Park & I saw it’s only 3 hours away from me. :) Definitely will be going there with my 2022.
@Jenuin2 жыл бұрын
They have big bore kits and if you change the sprockets you can get a higher top end. It won’t be a fighter jet but it will surprise a few people.
@onedogbowen2 жыл бұрын
Great video.. thanks
@JoeAdrain2 жыл бұрын
Here I am looking waiting for the 2022 Tacoma, but with gas prices climbing I just might get a Grom to travel to and from work.
@MatthewSmith-to1hz Жыл бұрын
I live in Alabama, and these things are everywhere. The idea behind a grom is a great one. It's just a light portable scooter/motorcycle for putting around town or to bring on vacation and explore around in. I'm a die hard harley guy through and through, but I have to admit honda is awsome too.
@ronniecurnutt4309 Жыл бұрын
I have the Candy Blue 2022 ❤ I love it I too weight in at 160 - 165 and usual run flat out full pin
@user-zk6rz2hk9t3 жыл бұрын
I had my Honda grom 2021 last January I have installed a full stunt on it I’m so happy how that little engine is so powerful ..groms are so much funny Iswear ☺️
@MrKdr5003 жыл бұрын
powerful? Lol.
@kf42932 жыл бұрын
Looks like a hoot. Thanks for the writeup bro. 👍
@Cake...2 жыл бұрын
OMG! Just ordered mine today!!!
@alexisquintero27822 жыл бұрын
I used to have a Coleman BT200X such a fun bike I think only went like 20mph but I had a blast on it, looking to get a grom now 🤞🏽
@Monkey-biz2 жыл бұрын
I have a coleman ct200u and I just got a Honda Monkey, so much fun to ride the monkey around.
@izzy86092 жыл бұрын
I'm really considering Getting one for school and work because my comute isn't really long nor complicated and I'd love something fun and nippy to just make those travels a bit more exciting. That being said I am 6ft 3 and this bike would make me look like a child so I'd say that my main concern is just how cumbersome it would be for a taller person like myself. Great video btw cheers
@Monkey-biz2 жыл бұрын
I am 6'2'' 200lbs and ride a honda monkey, feels fine and runs great. Perfect town bike.
@tomdayler195 Жыл бұрын
Stock exhaust sounds actually a lots louder than older Grom (MSX at my country), might be the best sounded Grom by far lol. It sounds very similar to my Asia-only 150cc Underbone bike Honda Winner X 150
@moisesmontes46553 жыл бұрын
I love my grom 😂 on flat ground I can hit 64 with perfect conditions
@molonlabe96022 жыл бұрын
Basically the same bike, different transmission, headlight and plastics. My hopped up 2016 MSX (Thailand) is my daily ride. I mothballed my other bikes. Change the sprockets depending if you want more top end or more get-up and go. Paid $800 for mine in mint condition with 800 miles on it and for $100 I turned it into a 150cc go-getter with even some ergo mods.
@grayhawkjl9473 жыл бұрын
Nice work Case!
@WW-wf8tu3 жыл бұрын
"Kase"
@kuaqimai2 жыл бұрын
I own a og grom and loving it very much
@Domstadt47113 жыл бұрын
I will get a Grom as my entry bike. Being 2 left handed, 43 & clumsy as f***, only rode a Piaggio Beverly 350, it's time to become a man 😄. Just wondering, ..I am 179cm tall, 78kg, will I fit comfortably? 🤔 I'm looking out for an Indian FXDR as my goal, and the Grom will help me to get there. Will keep it as a fun bike of course. Thx for your video mate. Appreciated. Wishes from Melbourne, Australia. Safe ride Everyone. 👊😎👍
@Clove_Parma3 жыл бұрын
The CB300R needs this screen update. Not hugely important but the gear position indicator was really nice to have as a new rider. I think that would help remove an annoyance in the 300.
@painterboy4543 жыл бұрын
The Grom needs the CB300R engine, lol.
@pleasedontwatchthese95933 жыл бұрын
@@painterboy454 I was kind of thinking the 300 is a grom with that engine
@painterboy4543 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593, LOL!!
@billwilliamson98422 жыл бұрын
@@painterboy454 they have swap kits to do just that. Its what I plan to do to my 2022 monkey after its out of warranty. I'm not even gonna waste money on upgrades for the 125, they cost too much and the tiny amount of performance gain just isn't worth the cash outlay. 30 hp and 6 speeds should perk the monkey up a bit.
@painterboy4542 жыл бұрын
@@billwilliamson9842, now that sounds like a great plan!! Back in 1988 I put an LS5 454 with nitrous in a brand new Chevrolet Caprice. Didn't even wait for the warranty to expire. Was the wife's daily driver for 18 years and 190,000 miles. Ran 13.2 @ 102mph in the quarter, lol. Life is more exciting when you pick up where the engineers left off.
@alainnadeau34213 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was told by a motorist that I was too big for my Grom.
@alexkelley3853 жыл бұрын
😂
@jorgeluisburgoacosio99983 жыл бұрын
2019 GROM owner, best bike ever here in South America 125cc is enough for the daily commute, but falls short to travel top speed I get is 88 km/h (55 mph), guess next year I'll step up to the Honda cb160f DLX the man who do the service to my bike just went to a 500kms (+300 miles) trip climbing 4500 ft elevation and pulls like a charm just use 1 1/2 fuel tank (to go and come back) which is amazing mpg, there's no doubt Honda makes the best (all around motorcycles)
@whitehammeer3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@canamdennis68292 жыл бұрын
Iam 53 and I just love these little guy I have had bikes my hole life thinks it's time for a new Grom
@sendit11583 жыл бұрын
Never seen a gro m before but on my way to buy 1 now, looks fun
@polkm7fromps33 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you were there at barber. What a blast.
@loganholmberg22953 жыл бұрын
Nice but like all Hondas it's a bit expensive...at least you can recoup that in the resale hopefully.
@ryanaustin73172 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my 24 grom!
@gungfuriceboy2 жыл бұрын
these Mini Moto's that Honda offer ...Are GREAT! With The ever Increasing 'Fuel Prices'. ( up to $8.Gallon!! )....Daily City Commuting to 'Work' ( through Late Spring - Fall Season )....is IDEAL!!!.....FUN to 'customize' TOO! Cheers from Canada!
@TariqKhan-xt5qs3 жыл бұрын
I just got myself a 2022 grom in black i have more fun on it than when I had my gsxr 750
@Tirfing882 жыл бұрын
In Mexico we don't have this but we have something called NAVi, it's basically a Grom body but with a scooter motor
@judge8313 жыл бұрын
We rode Kawasaki Z 125 Pros for our motorcycle beginner course. They are very fun as well. Just keep in mind, if you are over 5' 10" you'll probably hit your knees with the handlebars before full lock.
@damienjinxmisa2 жыл бұрын
That on the Z125, not the Grom.
@rbdshadow72722 жыл бұрын
have you ever went to Huntsville Alabama? I'm getting a Honda Grom and a class m license for my 14th birthday and im pretty stoked
@bfarm442 жыл бұрын
Need the yellow with gold forks I’m sure are available after market or get an anodizing kit
@onecrazywheel3 жыл бұрын
Our dealership in Central Florida hasn't got them in stock yet. They said they should be coming in soon. I like the blue 🔵 ABS model
@kkush823 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up a blue one on Friday
@aaronbritt20253 жыл бұрын
It wasn't mentioned, but my understanding is that Honda added the 5th gear to aid acceleration due to the new engine making slightly less power due to the new emissions requirements.
@Bugside3 жыл бұрын
I heard it actually makes MORE due to increased compression. Fifth is more an overdrive gear, to keep RPM lower at top speed
@billwilliamson98422 жыл бұрын
@@Bugside yea the rumor mill is it makes 1 hp more and peak tq arrives 250 rpm lower. They did that along with a lower 1st gear, 5th is slightly higher then last models 4th, rear sprocket went from 34 to 37, muffler went from a 3 chamber design to a single chamber, as well as a smaller catalytic converter which is lighter too. I'd love to see 2 same sized riders, one on a 2021 model and the other on a 2022 and see just how those changes equates to real world feel and performance. The monkeys also got a progressive rate rear shock for bigger riders, not sure about the groms. It aggravates me all these guys seem to want to talk about is the exposed fasteners, stickers, colors etc They made some minor but extensive changes and the 2022's should have a better feel to them over last years models.
@Bugside2 жыл бұрын
@@billwilliamson9842 it's an overall better bike, but unfortunately it's WAY less cool looking than the last one
@sat0rugojo2 жыл бұрын
@@Bugside That's why I'm opting to go for 2021 instead. I hate the new 2022 design, they should've stuck with the 2nd gen design.
@riverice27852 жыл бұрын
Biker waved at you @ 1:08
@invasion18242 жыл бұрын
Wish I was there where all those guys were doing stunts! Looks like a blast!
@thegatsby.11202 жыл бұрын
Hi TS, do you know how wide you can go on the rear tyre from the stock. thank's
@KadeemHacker3 жыл бұрын
Love my 600 but never had more fun than my grom
@alexp64093 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how accurate the speedo is. I have a Benelli TNT135 and they come from the factory reading ridiculously high on the speedometer - luckily there is a way to change a setting to make it accurate.
@spencer60813 жыл бұрын
2020 grom owner, my speedo is spot on
@xorbe22 жыл бұрын
My 2022 Grom speedo is actually accurate which surprised me
@norulescrew66362 жыл бұрын
Psst. I bought a 2021 KP Mini 150 from venom motorsport for $2300 delivered to my door.. In 11 months ive put $500 in mods and 10,500 miles with no issues at all. 5 speed, 150cc and 98mph. It's so much fun. And I've owned bikes 10x this size haha 😄
@Hanger9953 жыл бұрын
I’m only like 145 lbs imma be fast af boiii
@bfarm442 жыл бұрын
You also get an oil filter and level window
@sweetteathedj3 жыл бұрын
New to bikes. Looking at getting this one for my first and to drive in town 🙏🏾
@jackharty1393 жыл бұрын
I feel that I’ve never owned one but they seem like the perfect size
@EulogizingSleep3 жыл бұрын
get something cheaper with more ccs so you can learn to ride everywhere and safely merge into traffic.
@sweetteathedj3 жыл бұрын
@@EulogizingSleep what do you suggest? I’m 120 lbs 😬
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
I'd get a used, Japanese 250-450cc dualsport...WR250R, KLX250S, CRF250L, or even a DR-Z400S. Take a BRC, get your M license, then ride dirt for a bit before venturing out into traffic. I don't even like riding in city traffic, and I ride a lot of dirt and I gear up...helmet, armored pants, armored gloves, armored jacket, boots, and chest/back-protector. I can throw a 400lb DR650 around in rutted, rooted, rocky, muddy, sandy singletrack, and I still don't like riding in city traffic. Cagers are distracted...and nuts. I'd rather take my chances around turkeys and deer, so I try to stay out of city traffic on motos. In just the last month, I've witnessed 2 cages sideways and bouncing off dividers/cages at 80MPH, and then...disintegrated, on my 50-mile I94 commute to Chicago. One must have rolled about 8 times, after ping-ponging off at least 2 other cages.
@korrasatsuki87733 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a head to head with a highly modded up Honda Grom vs a Ducati Streetfighter as an in town review. Hell I’ll loan you my streetfighter.
@smokysmoky8467Ай бұрын
HEAVEN YES HELL NO JESUS CHRIST YES ZATAN NO JESUS CHRIST IS OUR GOD LORD OF LORDS AMEN AND AMEN HALLELUJAH💯🕊️🙏❤
@bobkloth572 жыл бұрын
ABS or no ABS? That is the question. It does rain a lot in the Spring and Fall where I live. Thank you for your reply.
@HowToGetMoreMetal2 жыл бұрын
I definitely got board with mine but they are fun.
@JonnyRides3 жыл бұрын
Sweet looking Grom for sure ! #GromGang
@donnyjonny17583 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the 2021 and 2022 model?
@yorkchris103 жыл бұрын
Seems about the same performance as Allan Millyard's 110 v2.
@alopez26613 жыл бұрын
What is the seat height on this new grom?
@BaracW3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a minimoto shootout. Like a mini-Ike. Compare Grom, Z125, TNT135.
@carlitodeleon7683 жыл бұрын
The grom has a very large following Group; you can set it up to do stuns ;
@kosta1605 Жыл бұрын
Man I am really thinking about getting a grom and making it my daily ride to work.
@emmannuelthomas80603 жыл бұрын
Is there a frame slider to put on 2022 honda grom?
@luxboss238811 ай бұрын
I got me a 250cc but man I respect the grom riders lol 🤘🏾
@turbocabz46493 жыл бұрын
The ABS version comes with the SP version too. Careful what info you feed to people :)
@boris29973 жыл бұрын
Why are you the info police 🚔 ,
@gore93412 жыл бұрын
Mannn shyutcho dumbasss upp
@kaomatic2 жыл бұрын
Chaparral here in SoCal has em for around 5k after mark up
@joshstraube14123 жыл бұрын
I bought the sp model in this video my dealer said it would ship the 14 and to expect it the end of June
@obey_these_nuts_3 жыл бұрын
nicee
@stephenloflin47723 жыл бұрын
Put the bbk 190cc and you are golden.
@hoodieboy15152 жыл бұрын
I might get this to commute to work at In N Out burgers lololol
@Rob-of1cv2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the blue one, 4600 to 4900 bit crazy.
@xdxxrdxgxrcxx27402 жыл бұрын
Im going to get one i will never be going above 60 around where i live so im fine i will e85 tune it if possible
@Theophilus19683 жыл бұрын
Does it have passenger pegs? Thanks for the great review.
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
Groms have had passenger pegs, but the Monkey doesn't.
@joshbeideman50213 жыл бұрын
I saw they already got a fender delete kit for it
@M3kka2 Жыл бұрын
Is a grom worth it over a Honda Navi I really can’t decide
@VampsMargera2 жыл бұрын
here in Mexico you can get a Honda cb190r with the same HCR color scheme for under 2900 usd
@sulmanshah3 жыл бұрын
I'm terrible and shifting gears. is this grom forgiving?
@UltraSS-nj8kd3 жыл бұрын
Just one small stretch of highway would kill it for me. (Or someone else would more likely). Good price though still always looked fun
@TheAnnoyingBoss2 жыл бұрын
That's why I think they should cram the rebel 300 engine into all the mini motos and sell them all as 5speed 125 and 6 speed 250. That way I can actually get a Grom over the couple hills to get into town without going below the speed limit haha. A tiny Grom with the rebel 300 shoved in it would rip
@nobbystyles48073 жыл бұрын
in design terms that new grom is a proper horror show. it looks like its got bullet holes in it. so great you decide to change your fairings but when you put it back together it will still look like its been sprayed with a shotty.... i own a 2018 grom though i bought it to learn how to ride and i love it so much i ride it everyday
@beewills94922 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have an SF and I think they look 1000x better.
@TheKayhood2 жыл бұрын
I got my Honda grom abs candy blue up 65 mph I'm 150 5.5 inches.
@pleasedontwatchthese95933 жыл бұрын
I have gotten 70mph on the stock last Gen grom but it was on flat ground and I weigh 125lbs
@billwilliamson98422 жыл бұрын
careful at those speeds a good gust of wind may rip you off the bike lol
@molonlabe96022 жыл бұрын
Check your speedometer vs a GPS. Grom speedometers read considerably higher. Not unusual for a 10% difference at top speed.
@jonnyhotrod15152 жыл бұрын
Can u take your road test on one of these?
@juggalo450 Жыл бұрын
I’d change the gold wheels to black
@WW-wf8tu3 жыл бұрын
The Gro-M needs to Gro-Up. lol The "group" was a "gang" of Grommers. lol Watch out elf world! Thanks for this review Kase. Good stuff. :)
@jimstenlund601710 ай бұрын
When performance mods really count !
@pec17392 жыл бұрын
i like the new name you gave it Gro-M
@michelakl-xq6rm Жыл бұрын
I wd love to have a Honda Grom and I like to change the engine into a 250 XR or XLR on it the it will be wonderful bike
@sreypinheng37388 ай бұрын
I love u so much grom❤❤❤❤❤
@HectorMartinez-kd4kw2 жыл бұрын
Sr,, do You have a Honda grom to sale..
@ineedstuff82863 жыл бұрын
how crazy would it be to put a kick start on this?.. I mean, do people do that?.. is that a thing for new bikes in general?.. I will be a new rider and I like old style stuff, and a kickstart sure would be gnarly.
@RKmndo3 жыл бұрын
Try a Yamaha SR400.
@carlosnino43932 жыл бұрын
U can drive in the freeway?
@boosted_2j3 жыл бұрын
Brah. Is got an mt09 and ever since i got 1 its the most fun i had lol.
@leetnessgaming97512 жыл бұрын
What part of Al
@uzairvorajee77582 жыл бұрын
Sweet home Alabama
@MickeyR63 жыл бұрын
It needs to be at least 175cc's. full throttle just to do city limits at all times. Needs to be able to do city & freeway speeds without having to ring it's neck 100% of the time
@love2fight2052 жыл бұрын
I agree, but unfortunately they’re going to keep it 125 for the European license restrictions, so teenagers can legally ride them.
@ShellShock7942 жыл бұрын
I'm going to assume you haven't actually ridden a Grom. Pinning the throttle all the time is part of the fun