Supercar vs. Muscle Car Drag Race: Can the 10-Year-Old BMW i8 BEAT the Brand-New Ford Mustang GT?

[@amigodesigns]

The i8 still looks modern and futuristic despite being 10 years old, one of the best if not the best looking BMW modern era in my opinion.

[@OOOnanana]

besides the interior

[@Ryosucc25]

​@@OOOnananaAnd the back end

[@DWH300]

Tells you how much the BMW deppreciates. You never included how expensive the BMW is to service including the Life and cost of those BMW batteries. If wasn't the BMW one would call a collectable. It's hard to believe one can purchase a 10 year old hybrid for $30000 unless it's because it was a failure that tells me to avoid that Awd BMW. Your tester is a base $40,000 mustang likely with 317 gears. Regular exhaust and base tires and interior. Here's the Hugh issue with the BMW I8. Most say that the new $160,000 BMW i8 was a failure for BMW because it didn't excel in either performance or eco-friendliness, and it lost half its value in its first year: The 1st year of ownership. That sucks.

[@grammymusicOFFICIAL]

@@DWH300 bunch of lies..i8 is one of the most realible bmw cars.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I8 was quicker than I expected...

[@kirkwagner461]

I'm surprised too. I'm guessing its the result of the electric motor at altitude, where gas engines are taking a hit?

[@driverjamescopeland]

Electric off the line is a huge advantage. Add to that, one of the most aerodynamic bodies in the industry. I wasn't surprised at all. I've met probably 30 i8 owners... and only one of them was dissatisfied.

[@kdz666]

I own an i8 in Germany. Love it. Hardly uses fuel. Very quiet in town. Lots of attention. and when I floor it, 100 to 200 kmh is really quick. above 240 kmh not so fast, but its not often the road is open enough for that kind of speed.

[@chad_3894]

take off the limiter

[@kdz666]

@@chad_3894 It has no limiter - it keeps going to about 270-280 but just takes avery long time to get there.

[@raeshaunroman]

I did NOT know the i8 was that quick holy shit

[@anonimushbosh]

I think elevation must have helped, as ICE don't like thin air. Be interesting to compare again at sea level and/or much lower temps.

[@chrism869]

​​@@anonimushboshand on a prepped strip also keep in mind the mustang is 600 pounds heavier than the i8

[@yissibiiyte]

Say what you will about the i8, but it's easily one of the best-looking BMWs ever

[@chrism869]

yeah i have to agree with you, its just that it was a bit overpriced when it launched. If it was pricedfor like 60k when new it would have been selling like hot cakes

[@Reubachi]

@@chrism869I agree, if it was 1:3rd the price they would have sold more 🫡

[@jagger2001]

"what you will about the i8"

[@shitloveaduck]

I see comments about pricing it at 1/3. It’s highly likely that it cost BMW more than that to produce it!! 😂😂 are they to increase losses? That’s all they would be doing if they price it below theirs costs to produce,,,,. They would be bankrupt in a short while with that business model. You guys throw out these numbers without even thinking about the costs to produce these cars. The technology the I8 had 10 years ago was highly innovative and expensive as h*ll!! It’s much cheaper now, so you can’t compare it to today’s similar vehicles. The I8 was a bespoke vehicle, meaning there was not a lot of carry over from other BMWs they could use to cut costs. I just don’t get how these hypothetical numbers can be pulled out of thin air! 😂😂.

[@jkxelor1295]

🤢

[@_IMNNO]

The problem is that the i8 was misunderstood by influencers thinking that it was a supercar or an M product. It was a design study / proof of concept by making a niche sporty hybrid. It had double the hp of a Prius but twice the efficiency of an E90 M3.

[@motaz1975]

well said.

[@explodifier6021]

It's not a bad car but it's a car that looks like a super car but gets outperformed by almost any high performance car.

[@_IMNNO]

@@explodifier6021 Yup, that was the grey area and why it was misunderstood.

[@michaelc2254]

Very true. A lot of misdirected hate towards the car. BMW obviously knew what they were doing and they certainly could have made it more powerful had they wanted to, but that wasn’t the point. Part of me is kind of glad that it was misunderstood because it allowed me to buy one 7 years ago at half price with only 5,000 miles on it. It’s a wonderful car. You can glide around town in electric mode and then go into sport mode and it becomes a different car. It may not be supercar fast, but it is not slow. The electric torque delivery makes it feel quite quick. I traded in an F10 M5 with 200 more horsepower, but the i8 feels quicker. Plus I got about 18 mpg in the M5. In the i8 I get close to 50.

[@Gadne92.5]

Very well put mate!

[@guyspeedingbyou]

You guys also forgot BMW underrate their horsepower figures. Great video!

[@Riddem79]

true

[@spidermonkey7999]

Owned my 2014 i8 for almost 3 years now. Bought when prices were still high from covid. Never had a car depreciate as fast as this one. That being said I still love it. It’s a lot faster than people give it credit for. Had a 2012 ctsv (550hp) and I can tell you the i8 is faster than it. Had a 2009 z06 while not quite as fast it would keep up I bet. Does the performance match a 150,000 price tag no, but I didn’t pay 150k for it. Get complements and what is that every time I drive it. Awesome underrated car.

[@AhBeeDoi]

Why would you expect a RWD vehicle to be at an advantage with an AWD with electric motors despite the HP advantage?

[@larryw5429]

Boosted vs NA is the problem! Altitude for NA cars is like driving with the brakes on!

[@sapperROSS]

Yup! Stock gt should be mid to high 12s.

[@dom_not_torretotedesco5707]

@@sapperROSSstock gt 10spd at sea level is a high 11 second car, plenty out thier running 11.80-12.00 at sea level bone stock right down to the tires

[@chrism869]

I8 runs somewhere around mid 12's aswell and I've seen high 11 with just a ecu tune ​@sapperROSS

[@jedironin380]

@@sapperROSS I had a 2011 Mustang GT, the first year of the Coyote engine. With the crappy stock tires I still ran a 12.9@110 in the 1/4 mile!

[@denalidriven1574]

BRO 1.3 LITERS BLAHAHAHAHAH TEN YEARS OLD A TURBO THE SIZE OF A GATORADE

[@carguytom]

The battery of the i8 is nearly empty ( only 3 miles left), nevertheless it beats the Mustang. Very underrated dreamcar.

[@johna5563]

Ever since I was a kid. The i8 has always been a cool looking car to me. And to this day I still think it’s one of the best looking cars BMW has ever made!

[@einfeldt777]

😳 what on earth happened here, I definitely didn’t see that happening 😵‍💫. Just love Casey’s old man moment, “my V8 sounds better…” 😂😂😂

[@jaybomb5022]

Shitty drivers

[@ProfessorNugget]

Good video guys i would get the i8 over the mustang all day

[@kingjeffishere]

I didn't get my i8 for racing....but I know what it can and can't do. So, no wavering on the love over here.

[@reeeek2017]

Same. I have a roadster its like every other day people ask if I race it

[@therocket280z7]

This was an example of the advantage of turbos, and electric power, at high altitude. These cars perform about the same at sea level, but the i8 only lost half a second from its 1/4 time.

[@gregzebrak4090]

And with out a doubt that mustang has the base rear axle gears 3:15 and no launch control

[@therocket280z7]

@@gregzebrak4090 I don't think the axle ratio makes any difference at all with the auto. It shifts out of first by 40mph and chips 2nd immediately to 50mph. That's short gearing for a 500hp car, even though it weighs 2 tons. Maybe with the manual, but the manual is slower anyway.

[@marcinhernik1270]

Really good job on the video format!!! It was very engaging and well broken down! Genuinely surprised about the i8

[@mercator79]

yeah it is always heckled as slow but then its by people who dont own one. I love mine

[@reeeek2017]

I said that too i8 gang The attention I get from my roadster is crazy even from Lamborghini owners

[@skittlesgarage]

I own an i8. It’s quick. Nowhere as quick as my McLaren, but decent. But there are 2 cures to make it even quicker: An ECU tune from Alex Myers at Yorkshire DPF Centre in the U.K, and a Pedal Commander. That combo actually dropped the 0-60 to 3.7 verified by my several draggy GPS runs.

[@sn00ch]

Great side by side comparison guys! TFL life!

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

BMW. The brand notorious for sandbagging it's actual horse power numbers. Worth calling out that the hybrid system is doing a lot of legwork in that drivetrain. I am sure it is helping a ton at altitude. Would love to see what this i8 puts down at the dyno.

[@Schaneification]

It take a 10 YEAR BMW to it close to the same Price as a New Mustang . But then you need to do the Repair cost to the BMW !

[@Lakikano]

A 10 year old German car with such a complicated drivetrain is gonna turn into a money pit real quick.

[@Schaneification]

@@Lakikano Yes If you own the BMW in for 4 years you could have paid for a New Mustang with the repair cost of of the BMW . Most likey it will cost you more than the New Mustang .

[@Tallnerdyguy]

​@@Schaneification other than the warranty for the first 6 years

[@Asiansxsymbol]

Or just buy a 2023 840i XDrive with less than 15K miles for the same price as those (or almost 50% off the original MSRP) and still has a warranty. Almost 50% depreciation in just a year! 🙀

[@Asiansxsymbol]

I just test-drove said 840i and am thinking about buying it. With a little negotiation, probably $47K!!! Looks much better than the Stang, is much more luxurious inside out, and just as quick.

[@appleiphone69]

You didn’t find out the 10speed was quicker than the 6 speed manual. That was done by others back in 2018 if not earlier with the S550.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Everyone on AutoTempest looking for i8s 😅😂

[@Robert-cp9sc]

I remember back in 2020 or 2021 TFL was trying to purchase an i8 via vroom but somehow the check was lost by Vroom (really cannot believe this thing actually happened). Now look at Vroom which no longer exists, lol. Congrats on the long due i8 again.

[@aussie2uGA]

Wait, was that the "check chasers" episode where the check was missing?

[@quentinfreeman7516]

That altitude is the real difference maker

[@evilinside5984]

@TheFastLaneCar- There should be no surprise, that a $150,000 vehicle, has a better interior, vs a $50,000 vehicle. To calculate power to weight more accurately, tq has to be included. Example: If the BMW has a combined Hp of 357, & combined Tq. Of 535, add together, then divide. So 892 divided by 2= 446 combined power output average, divided by weight. Then the mustang's 486 Hp, & 415 Tq.= 901 divided by 2= approx. the same @ 450.5 combined power output average, ( @ sea Level ), not to mention its 200 Lbs. heavier, + Rwd, vs Awd. I wonder how close these 2 vehicles would be in a 1/4 mile drag race, @ sea Level, on a properly prepped drag racing surface? I was surprised that the mustang had a shorter stopping distance. I was NOT surprised that the mustang sounded so much better. Great video. P.s. I just seen some drag racing video's showing a 2015 BMW i8, and a 2024 mustang Gt, 5.0 Liter, w/10 speed, ran @ the same Atco dragstrip. The BMW i8's best E.T. was a 12.55 @ 112 Mph, vs the Mustangs 12.15 @ 118 Mph!

[@AosmoYT]

I am blown away by the bmw i8 thats a 10 year old car against a 2024 car damm. I really underestimated the i8

[@Live2die555]

Race the gt500

[@juanc5149]

For once I’m watching this video where these guys are about 2300 feet below me. That Mustang GT would be a mid 14 second car here.

[@jstitan2972]

Blue Oval for me!

[@G82Watts]

I saw an i8 around town all blacked out and it literally looks brand new. I wish bmw would do a refreshed look and give it a v8. That would be a car!

[@darylthomas4676]

Crazy how 30.000 miles would knock a hundred tho off the price of a car! I was very impressed how bad it beat the Stang! I think the look of the beamer still looks bad a$$. I love the villian looking front end. But always remember that this is a wealthy person's car and up keep may be a little costly with all that tech. But damn she looks good!

[@brandonstewart7145]

Three things, 1 excellent video guys, 2 that three cylinder sounds way better than I thought it would and 3 why would I pay so much for SoloDL when it's going to give miss information Lol!!!!

[@joehall9719]

The I8 needs the 3 cylinder Koenigsegg twin turbo engine. 😜

[@coryu2403]

That’s why I don’t get the hate for turbos way more instant power!

[@mjcapinto]

What is the cost of repairs and maintenance on this BMW in the US?

[@Cloud30000]

Maintenance at a private mechanic is no different then any other ICE, as the wear parts are standard and common to other non-BMW’s. Repairs for those standard parts like the powertrain is also normal, but for proprietary parts like that carbon frame it is impossible and quickly becomes a right-off in any kind of minor accident.

[@mjcapinto]

@Cloud30000 The I8 is a very unique car and a complex machine between advanced electrical systems and conventional engine. I sincerely doubt is on par with other BMW's... even in Europe is complicated for parts and specialised labour, I can only imagine the US. But you might be right, the US mau have cheaper BMW maintenance than in Europe for this car, I don't have the stats.

[@rustyhanna6709]

When it comes to electric. What I would like to know is , battery costs and intervals.

[@stevelouie5928]

I think the bottom for the i8 is about 50k. Not a bad daily driver either. Nothing turns heads for less money. Problem is reliability.

[@RandyJM21]

Bmw is amazing looking car , makes the mustang look like a turd in comparison . Used or not the BMW is soo much nicer car for money . 2015 BMW Looks 20 -30 years NEWER then the Mustang . Would take BMW 100 Xs over the mustang . Its a real sports car , it looks 100Xa better / more exciting / better then latest mustang and as as a V8 mustang that is supposed to suck at turns , be plasticy and fat that as a Muscle car that costs a mess of money now it will go fast in straighline and stomp more expensive nicer cars but it doesnt actually do thatb. The I 8 is beautiful . On road ive seen a BMW I 8 with blue anodized bigger wheels and bigger stickier tires with white raised lettering and it was one of the most STUNNING shapes and cars Ive ever seen on road with white blue and back color option . I hate BMWs because of price , cost of ownership , poor egineering and cost to keep running for second owner make them disposeable after warranty / suckers choice as car with fixes costing as much as price of depreciated car making them litterally worthless as a used car in many cases . Often Ugly or not cairing about appearence and just the badge , interior and performance and iuxury for owner who never keeps a car and always gets new car at 36k or whenever warranty is over . BUT I8 is one of a couple BMWs that is actually attrractive and cool looking for modern BMW . Look more sleek , exotic and futuristic aa a 2015 then 2025 cars and just destroys the mustang in drag race where its supposed to be its one trick as a pony and a better handling car that gets WAY BETTER when you get rid of skinny non performance tires the mustang wilk look even more like a heavy old turd . Mustang looks bland and is a FORD . This is one of the times i would pay for a used BMW which at 100k off is a much nicer 10X nicer, faster and more special car that deserves being kept up then a common and slow fat muscle / sports car that only sounds good and eats tires and gets destroyed by a fancy eco sports car designed to highlight stylish effeciency and not brute force that destroys the mustan in a straightline and destroys itbinnall other ways as 9 year old car . White BMW I 8 with ELECTRIC BLUE ANODIZED WHEELS + HIGH PERFORMANCE FAT WHITE LETTER TIRES has 100X more road prescence then any mustang. Looks 100 years into future compared to a blobby tesla and has more performance then you can use for a street csr and destroys a V8 Mustang in drag race wearing skinny eco tires . All day the BMW , like a Pantera , 308 , XJ Jag and some classic lookers like BMW M1 which is one of the other BMWs that is actually beautiful looking the I8 looks special . Just good wheels and tires and it looks 5 X more exotic then in stock trim where it looks like mid enginencar from 2075 . BMW all day over slow stang with ugly interior with tech but done ugly and cheap making old BMW lo9k futuristic and mustang look like cheap screens stuck on and after thought with terrible aesthetics that look cheap and hurtful to eye and look down on mustang buyer as used to cheesey plastic interior so big long screen should be fine and seem like tech and high end mixed with plastic but just ruins the look and gets beat by hybrid with 3 cyl and beat bad . Bmw all day. Cant believe i am choosing a used German car and A BMW at that but its just such an namazing design , proves it STOMPS BRAND NEW GIANT HP V8 CARS

[@benrhoads6406]

Efficiency vs raw horsepower. VERY good demonstration guys. Efficiency always 🏆 wins. I would like to see the BMW go up against the Agera.

[@santopotter]

Paying 150k for a 13 second car is outrageous. At 49k is a great deal. I'd be utterly disappointed if I had paid retail.

[@G82Watts]

It's 10 years old... looks and interior go a long way

[@DWH300]

​@@G82Watts So does servicing that BMW . FYI. That $150,000 BMW depreciated by 50,% The first year of ownership. That's a performance pack mustang GT with $100,000 in the Bank

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

I8, Corolla GR or Fiesta ST, which is the best 3 cyl car for the money?

[@RandenMontalvo]

It’s lighter. Way lighter. The engineering in the i8 chassis super car level. It’s a gem.

[@vigorosoPIMPJr]

i8 saving grace is the electric engine. Instant torque really helps out especially in high altitudes

[@ZephyrCalhoon]

The german manufacturers always under rate their power & torque figures. There are tons of examples of them punching above their weight class.

[@jagger2001]

I was today years old when I found out the i8 has rear seats 😮🤦

[@aussie2uGA]

For insurance premiums, same with a 911.

[@jagger2001]

@@aussie2uGA yeah makes sense. Remember thinking the same thing when I saw the back seats in a Supra and a Lexus SC430

[@Intrepid175a]

Well, you've got a lighter car with two drive mode advantages that aren't as effected by altitude (electric and turbocharging) as a NA engine will be. Still, the Mustang as done well in all the drag races you've put it through, but like you, I don't think any of us were expecting this one to be so lopsided. I suppose it was bound to happen eventually! ;-)

[@keyamokeamogetswe7732]

Can we try the G22 M240i vs the Mustang

[@JCTiggs1]

That bade Mustang GT auto comes with 3.15 gears. Maybe the optional 3.55's amd summer tires would jave helped with the launch and overall acceleration

[@darrylhayes]

Would it be different at sea level?

[@Tallnerdyguy]

That's why they mentioned elevation 6x during video

[@robervin9107]

11:26 kase Incredible outstanding job. You gave raw real moment The look on your face. Bro I want bear hug ya 😂Best part for me. Tommy and Andre Outstanding job as well.

[@Moses1973]

That BMW is nice looking but the cost to repair it ( if you could find someone in the states to actually fix it) would be astronomical. IMHO

[@joshgessinger4509]

All i can say u must be up there in elevation because my 2018 RS 3:6 camaro at sea level runs 13.6 107mph. I know the mustang GT runs 12’s at sea level. But that BMW is still a great buy very impressive.

[@danihellz]

High altitude and hybrid… a lot of the i8 comparisons from the time were at sea level.

[@goochigoochs3836]

Just like I said before, Mustang is like Superman - the all American hero that gets beaten in almost every episodes 😁🤣

[@peiguy1982]

10:00: That's a Roman word salad right there.

[@christiandrangsholt868]

Ford mustang

[@markv78]

Does the mustang not have a launch mode ? If so did u use it ?

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

Engine in the right spot makes all the difference...

[@enonek2960]

Just curious, but comparing Apples to Apples what was the performance of a Mustang GT back in 2016 at that elevation?

[@lukelaming3445]

Holy shit the mustang is closing in on 100hp a litre… that’s pretty impressive for naturally aspirated in my opinion.

[@xBris]

With modern super- and turbochargers, there's really no reason to have naturally aspirated engines anymore. The Porsche 992 Turbo S makes 174 hp a litre...

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

​@@xBrisreliability...

[@shitloveaduck]

@@richfarfugnuven6308- the reliability is improving every year. Current turbochargers last well over 100,000 miles. There are F150s out there with 200,000+ miles on the turbochargers. My buddy has a dealership and is see the records of some serious high milers! If you don’t learn & change with the times you start to sound silly with simple & much less relevant comments. The manufacturers don’t produce stuff expecting it to break down. They would all be out of business so to speak. Even Toyota is switching to turbocharging. They have a huge reputation they need to protect. Unfortunately the Tundras are failing at an abnormal rate for Toyota, but it has nothing to do with the Turbos. Do your oil changes, with the proper specified oils and turbos last very well. If you are not good at maintaining your vehicles, THEN a turbocharged engine may cost you, but that would be the owner’s fault for poor maintenance.

[@Cloud30000]

As the N\A engines become more complicated and more powerful, they also get less reliable.

[@shitloveaduck]

@@Cloud30000 - exactly!!

[@ezekielochieng8941]

The 2025 Ford Mustang GT, GT performance pack and the Dark horse are more expensive. They also got rid of the high performance pack for the 2.3L four pot

[@sinajetta1746]

What's the rear diff ratio on the mustang?

[@darrenleaguecity]

The answer to the title of this video is YES!

[@justinbecker4772]

Best straightline deal on the market? You must not be looking at EVs. A used Kia EV6 GT goes for a bit over 30k and does 11s in the quarter.

[@joshc606]

Yes, mustang still a better deal.

[@justinbecker4772]

@@joshc606 He said "one of the best straightline performance deals you can buy" around 0:30. If you metric is a) fast in a straight line and b) cheap then a muscle car on a tired old platform is not a good deal when a korean economy SUV can take 2 seconds on it in the quarter mile.

[@Shenkosky]

Had an i8 sadly got rid of it when BMW stopped supporting it and stopped working on them! I have an ICE car again because manufacturers do not support EV's long term.

[@justinbecker4772]

I feel like the i8 is not representative of most manufacturers support of EVs, considering it was a very rare car with bespoke components. Most modern EVs are built with shared components

[@Shenkosky]

@@justinbecker4772 Exactly right just like how my neighbor received delivery of his Fisker after a 4 1/2 year of waiting and they just went out of business and he said his vehicle needs service does not run and is also only worth 32% of its value on trade in 💀 I feel you don't understand EV's yet kid. My 2 year old low mile model Y is worth exactly 51% what I paid because the technology changed so fast they are literally worthless second hand. ICE still retains way more value and I sold many trucks for more than I paid two years later when using family discounts

[@justinbecker4772]

@@Shenkosky lol, anyone who looked at fisker's books knew that company was doomed. I rely on people like you to eat the depreciation so I can buy cheap EV's. Looking forward to my $35k Ionic 5 N in a year.

[@Kahless00]

I remember the reviews for the i8 saying the factory tires really let it down. It had Bridgestone ecopias or something. Does that one have better rubber on it? I wonder if the mods for the mini would work on the i8.

[@TFLcar]

FYI: We put P Zeros on it.

[@TommyMcDermott]

I have Michelin ps4 on mine. Way better then the factory tires it came with.

[@DM-lc6pp]

Great video but it ain’t no TESLA !!

[@mcmillonbe]

I8 ran a 12.5@113 Mph in the 1/4mile per Car and Driver October 2016

[@montaviusalexander9501]

Same as the motor trend numbers on the mustang GT 12.5

[@JoshuaIS1]

People consistently ran 12.2s but most magazine companies seemed to hit mid 12s. I watched one run a 12.1 with different tires

[@michaelc2254]

February 24, 2015 Car and Driver - BMW i8: 12.1 @ 116 mph., 3.6 to 60.

[@catkingdom3023]

Yes, I like my own comments 🤦‍♂

[@Asiansxsymbol]

I can also buy a 2023 840i XDrive with 15K miles for $49K too.

[@gregferris9378]

Do you wonder how hard that is on the engine and transmission flooring it in multiple drag races?

[@joshc606]

Well they are both marketed as sports cars.

[@anthonyortega3136]

Considering the Mustang is handicapped by elevation and is stock, I'm sure the transmission is fine. As for the i8, it has 2 electric motors and a turbo 3... the transmission is fine here as well, lol

[@lincolnls0416]

So you are taken a turbo engine with help of an electric engine. Taken a aspirated V8 with way higher altitude. No real comparison in my eyes. Have to say was nice race. Mustang was catching it at the end on all races.

[@ZephyrCalhoon]

The mustang was never reeling in the i8.

[@lincolnls0416]

Must be blind. Maybe your also jealous. Why you are but hurt saying that. 🤣

[@alim7502]

Nah mustang was not pulling as said at 6:58

[@stephen546]

You keep talking about connection to Apple products, but can you connect to Android devices, or is it just Apple?

[@Vex22778]

The BMW I8 could’ve been a seriously cool car If it wasn’t let down by the Power train

[@The_KnY]

I like the channel, scenery, test area and the hosts. Unfortunately almost every result of comparisons like this are nullified by the altitude. The bigger a gas engine is the more air it needs. V8's in these vids have been 1.5 to 3.5 sec slower then sea level. Hybrids & EV's not so much.

[@rashoood1]

i8 is pretty quick indeed! but yea 150k new was too much for the performance lol like idk I bet you could get something like a 911 GTS for that price at the time

[@dor1tomcswagger69]

Bmw underrate their hp do a dyno test on the i8 youll be surprised how much hp that 3 cyl is making which is even more impressive

[@tfrogginhfroggin]

You ever thought about swapping drivers on a second run? Could eliminate diver skill

[@bmwpete65s55]

i8 looks cool and it's pretty quick but at 10 years old, how much longer will the battery pack last? How much would it cost to replace? I'll take the Mustang.

[@TommyMcDermott]

7k if I remember to replace. Il upgrade mine to solid state when the time comes

[@thawngpi7749]

Can you guys please race your mustang and GR 86 special edition 😊

[@HolaSoyJay]

Is the gr86 tuned? lol because that’s not a fair race

[@anthonyortega3136]

​@@HolaSoyJaydepends on the race...a drag race? Sure the Mustang all the way... on track? The gr86 would be better, especially with experienced drivers in both.

[@HolaSoyJay]

@@anthonyortega3136 that’s true but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a track day on this channel

[@djw5415]

If you want to flex and catch someone’s eye get the I8 but if you want a traditional v8 that will be a classic and will be special forever, mustang all day.

[@Wicked_RotF30]

The new ZR1 Corvette is nice, especially in convertible. Ford is dropping the ball. They should make a new mid engine Thunderbird to be the Corvette fighter. Ford GT is ridiculously expensive and v6, Thunderbird should be affordable and V8. Similar to Corvette.

[@myusernames1967]

The i8 is not a Supercar.

[@Corvolet5]

Yeah. It has the looks, but that's about it

[@giorx5]

Looks, mid-engined and the carbon-tube chassis made that to be considered as one.

[@aaron-fauth]

@@giorx5But low on power compared to the price.

[@giorx5]

@@aaron-fauth Nice point! That's another reason to categorize it as a supercar. They always tend to be overpriced.

[@aaron-fauth]

@@giorx5 It is extremely low on power for a big car like the i8. It is not a supercar and a sports car at best.

[@Pia-ho9dm]

that mustang's quarter mile time was reported on motor trend as 12.5 seconds. If this race was at a normal level they probably would of being neck and neck.

[@mcnuggetapple]

Yeah the elevation is hurting that mustang way more than the i8

[@kevin122759]

What they are doing is real world situation. I live in Colorado and a high 13 sec quarter mile is pretty accurate for the Mustang.

[@chrism869]

​@@mcnuggetappleyeah as expected

[@AmosDohms]

That would explain it. I was pretty baffled, especially at the result of the rolling race. The I8 is a much cooler car, but the Mustang would be a much easier ownership experience.

[@Pia-ho9dm]

@@mcnuggetapple not really, the i8 has a similar quarter mile time

[@randallbollinger9625]

Numbers don’t lie but bmw does

[@saskatchewan4168]

Ya that is a base mustang. Put it against a dark horse or mach 1

[@finnianfitzsimons623]

Can we have another TFL fleet update?

[@TFLcar]

Yes

[@bbsaproductions]

Why Ford hasn't included a electric motor/V8 combo is crazy... look at the C8 eray. Ford please take notes

[@MrTwone79]

Why would you be less excited on the launch

[@Wicked_RotF30]

I still dont understand the mini engine. That car deserved a proper M engine.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

Pretty sure the i8 was never considered a supercar. 3 cylinder engine and less than 400hp in 2015? Nah. Looks great though

[@bcraftin7846]

I don’t know what loses drag races more…the mustangs or challengers? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@brendanburke5884]

Aint no super car but you can call it what you want

[@tilmonr]

Literally no supercar racing a muscle car.... you can say sports car, but it's not a supercar.... that's like saying a lotus evora is a supercar, it's not.

[@donleamon8653]

To Roman, it’s a supercar.

[@nimaside]

I'd call the Evora a super car. Most (non car enthusiast) people think it's a Ferrari . That's usually a good indication of a super car in the eyes of the general public.

[@Stuka87]

People were disappointed with the i8's performance because it was the price of a 911 Turbo. Not that the performance was outright bad. Just not good for $150K.

[@darcylevesque6587]

The mustang might be down about 70 hp at that elevation. Which I figure makes the i8 about 8.8lbs/hp and the mustang about 9.2lbs/hp

[@chm2]

NA Mustang at altitude is a dud.

[@cass753]

I'm sure the maintenance and repairs on the I8 compared to the Mustang are even also.....................................

[@turdferguson2839]

If the I8 is a supercar than so is a Corvette