Seen a Lucid for the first time in person yesterday. I don't like electric but they look amazing. Much nicer in person
@paul56834 ай бұрын
I finally saw a cyber truck the other day. What an ugly piece of crap.
@thomasnew86064 ай бұрын
Yes, the Lucid cars are quite awesome in person. Yet if anyone is serious about living with an EV...they buy a Tesla
@davidditzler27044 ай бұрын
@@thomasnew8606 I've driven most of the Tesla's and I would rather have the Lucid. It's my daily driver, my road trip mobile and family hauler. It rides much better than a Tesla, charges faster and has way more storage. With 400+ miles of range, there are always chargers available.
@roguedogx5 ай бұрын
11:32 I would disagree with that. the fact that the Lucid Uses a 6-pole motor when almost everyone else in the industry uses 4-pole is proof of the lucid having better tech all on it's own. And if you don't know what "poles" are in an electric motor.... I don't have a great way to describe it without a visual aid, but the effect is that poles in an EV motor work kind of like stroke length in an ICE motor. The higher the poles the more the engine has lots of low end torque. the higher the pole count, the more the motor likes to rev. relatively speaking of course.
@markcoopers19305 ай бұрын
Lucid makes a good sedan. Might be big money (although not that big given the price of new cars), but at that price and power it offers far more than an E class and makes stretching for an S class look like a bad move.
@joanstehlik2355 ай бұрын
Throw a Roush supercharger for under 10k for 625HP and still be under 50k. Sounds like a bargain.🔥💯🇺🇸 Dude driving the Stang can't drive stick at all.😖
@anthonywunderlich3681Ай бұрын
If they wanted to use the fastest GT it should have been the 10-speed automatic. I personally would rather enjoy a Tremec.
@johnstewart69205 ай бұрын
I would love a subtle mention of passing 88 mph
@cyclist78025 ай бұрын
Definitely LUCID! Base price of the sedan you tested is 69,900. BTW, Lucid has way better technology than Tesla. It's also stratospherically better made. Also, the Lucid is American designed and manufactured.
@stephenzerfas53075 ай бұрын
BMW looks cool even for its age. Remember seeing one at a car show years ago. My biggest fear with it would be reliability and cost to repair. No fun for the Mustang at a mile high with the thin air. The Lucid is a great mix of speed, luxury and space but that price…
@garys21575 ай бұрын
Just saw one yesterday in Florence, tops all open, same color, still a beautiful looking car, it was pretty quiet.
@richh6504 ай бұрын
Love these fun races. $75000 not even being that unusual now for a new car shows how completely crazy the auto industry has become...
@ripfletching5 ай бұрын
Man, I gotta say I love all the Mustang content. It’s so American and with just a simple supercharger drop in or a turbo really nothing else and all of a sudden it’s phenomenal.
@Jay-me7gw5 ай бұрын
I’d rather have a regular cab short bed 4x4 F150 with a whippled 5.0. Then you can actually put all that power down
@brentvance39585 ай бұрын
@@Jay-me7gwyes but now you are back up to $75k
@Jay-me7gw5 ай бұрын
@@brentvance3958 it’s $42k for the truck and $10k for a whipple
@theeoddments9605 ай бұрын
@@Jay-me7gwlabor?? Added shit that always goes into a build??? Injectors tuning at the dyno etc you’re at 60 all day
@chadkent12414 ай бұрын
Um, the quickest steel body Mustang runs 6.20s @ nearly 230 mph. 😂
@JeffFadnessАй бұрын
The whole point of this show is comparing factory models.
@GR-cd2kx4 ай бұрын
I find it strange how the video makes it seem like having more weight is supposed to be a good thing
@USAWILL5 ай бұрын
Roman your dad clothes is looking really sharp. 👍
@Miata8224 ай бұрын
I love Lucid and my Air GT has twice the power of the Pure so I was genuinely surprised by the outcome. That Pure is now Lucid's best selling model and I can see why. People say the RWD is big fun to drive on twisty roads. I hope to give that a try sometime. My GT rips in the canyons but AWD won't really let the tail hang out in "high drama" mode.
@sapperROSS4 ай бұрын
The mustang is down 100hp at the high elevation. Car should trap 120mph not 108
@brentvance39585 ай бұрын
Mustang all the way. Add a $10,000 supercharger and still 25k in your pocket. Sign me up.
@angelcartagena23754 ай бұрын
Mustangs are junk.
@abqcrutch5 ай бұрын
I love it when you guys drag race!
@codyparris715 ай бұрын
Electric vs N/A gas at high elevation isn’t a good comparison. Granted I think electric gets it regardless due to instant power
@rogermartinez785 ай бұрын
And not going through multiple gears.
@Iczer14 ай бұрын
Here’s a thought. The horsepower difference between the two cars may be greater than you would think at a glance in favor of the Lucid. When you consider how horsepower is measured, it doesn’t account for loss thru the drivetrain. So the Mustang’s rating would be lower at the wheel, whereas I’m assuming the Lucid would be closer to their rated horsepower at the wheel since it is pretty much direct drive and probably very little loss. So add the instant torque and you you have some pretty good power advantages. What do you think?
@radgeh59245 ай бұрын
Demo lucid air pure awd available for $58k now, from Lucid 0-60 in 3.8
@RSRS-ws3px5 ай бұрын
A mile above sea level must really kill the Mustang. My 2019 Raptor ran a 13.96 at 100.56 in Delaware with a DA of 1601. That was with my Dragy and I think I let off before the 1/4 because the end of the road was coming up fast. I will try again when we get cooler weather and see if I can get mid 13’s. I almost forgot to add, I have the MPT 93 PRX tune loaded.
@88GTi5 ай бұрын
Great Video Guys...Really enjoyed it! But when you live in a place where the speed limit on local roads is only 20mph, and 3 lane highways are only 50mph, any expensive car is a waste of money. Gas is $9 a gallon. Anything but the latest vehicles are $16 per day to use due to emission laws 😢 If I was in America...I'd take the Mustang...Such a good looking car!
@XoticImage5 ай бұрын
What country, that's rough for car guys!
@88GTi5 ай бұрын
@@XoticImage London England and I'm right out in the farthest suburbs. It use to be a great place...Now its worse than horrible!
@bigrr645 ай бұрын
I would definitely buy the Mustang and keep the change😊
@robervin91075 ай бұрын
Kases laughter Is infectious
@tirefiregarage5 ай бұрын
I think it's really cool these guys are willing to race their air fryers
@rickc74965 ай бұрын
Looking good Chase, looks like you’ve been working out! 💪💪💪
@blablah5384 ай бұрын
Our Lucid makes our 2 BMWs feel like covered wagons. Cars we used to fight over to drive we need fight not to drive
@jghall005 ай бұрын
I think TFL should lease a Lucid Pure AWD.
@smithjones19065 ай бұрын
Not sure I dig any of these for $75k. Maybe an M3 or a Vette.
@ZYXWVUQ992Q5 ай бұрын
do the same race at sea level
@Jay-me7gw5 ай бұрын
Then they might be even. And not all of us live at sea level with negative DA.
@OldThomMerton5 ай бұрын
No doubt, I'd take the i8!
@lincolnls04165 ай бұрын
Mustang Cobra's and the Gt500 are by the way the 2 fastest Mustang. Ken Block also has the fastest Mach E ever built.
@spitfirenutspitfirenut48354 ай бұрын
How about a race on a road track or oval, say for about one hour. Or better yet, 500 miles.
@trailzrock24 ай бұрын
The i8 is a classic in the making
@billzkustomz5 ай бұрын
Do a cross country race.
@cheapme18504 ай бұрын
Sure…can I choose between Boeing or Airbus?
@KateYT174 ай бұрын
Liamo
@mfan24925 ай бұрын
So a car almost twice as much is faster? It better be! Why don't they race it against the Dark Horse which is similar in price?
@C_J_815 ай бұрын
I am calling false advertising... The fastest non Shelby Mustang in the 1/4 mile is the new 2024 Mustang Mach-e which will run the 1/4 mile in 11.8 seconds. So you were not driving the fastest Mustang... ;)
@mariano31134 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the Mustang GTD be the fastest non-Shelby Mustang?
@TattleDelta4 ай бұрын
@@mariano3113 **sigh** Okay, the Mach-E is the fastest non-Shelby Mustang.... that you can currently buy.
@IReahpZz4 ай бұрын
Stock 10 speed cars have run 11.8 as well . Mach e is beyond slow after 50 , this lucid would still drop the Mach e as well which is sad . The awd variant of this car runs an 11.4 at 122+ mph . Not to even talk about the tons of power the fast version have
@thisismyname29364 ай бұрын
Bruh, the mach e isn't a mustang
@brianfeeney39364 ай бұрын
gimme a break dude
@cabbagehead80825 ай бұрын
Mustang needs a better driver. You didnt push that thing at all
@chrism8695 ай бұрын
He literally did
@mcnuggetapple5 ай бұрын
Elevation destroys the mustang so hard
@suazzz30705 ай бұрын
Mustang for me because I love the V8 roar
@AndreasPenninger-oc8sw4 ай бұрын
What’s funny about the lucid? It’s depreciation after it has 5000 miles on the odometer
@adamsdailydriveway5 ай бұрын
Imagine the i8 with the 4.4 twinturbo v8!! Would’ve been wayyyyy better
@LearningFast5 ай бұрын
Those are some of the slowest “Performance” cars you can buy.
@crowdsurfpp21925 ай бұрын
How about a roll with the mustang……
@troystebens98875 ай бұрын
The biggest difference is elevation. I can do a 12.8 on the street with my dragy Mines loaded pp 6 speed.
@michaelferguson40645 ай бұрын
Tf is a classic American ev
@livelong66855 ай бұрын
@6:30 sorry i use to be able to watch full shows but time is money to stay ahead of inflation
@isserdigan28354 ай бұрын
Wait till you have that I8 be repaired 😂
@danny200mph55 ай бұрын
Plenty of 20-30 year old Mustangs on the streets every summer and getting respect. Cant say the same about EVs or any 20-30 year old electric device.
@spcneary5 ай бұрын
Nobody respects 20-30 year old mustangs, literally the worst years that nobody wants.
@timkinley17795 ай бұрын
Imagine the bad choices you'd have to make if you're driving a 20 - 30 year old Mustang.
@danny200mph55 ай бұрын
@timkinley1779 what would you say to the person who pulls out a Blackberry Phone or iPhone 3gs?
@timkinley17795 ай бұрын
I doubt I'd be in a situation where a Blackberry or iPhone 3 are being used. That isn't my crowd.
@benjdm4 ай бұрын
(putt putt car noises) "How can you not like that?" Very easily....
@jghall005 ай бұрын
How much of the Mustang's power is actually making it to the wheels between drivetrain losses and elevation? Maybe time for a dyno session?
@timkinley17795 ай бұрын
Huh? Probably 8% - 10%.
@zoner__5 ай бұрын
Mustangs are way too heavy
@jghall005 ай бұрын
@@timkinley1779 The numbers I've seen for RWD are around 20% loss between the engine and the wheels. Then there's the thinner air on top of that. I suspect that Mustang is substantially down on power. But I liked the Lucid better anyway.
@justinluttrell89905 ай бұрын
I love that the slowest Lucid is that quick. But I just can't get over the boring styling and I still don't think most people need anything that quick. If they could make it look like an Audi S6 that can do 60 in 6 seconds for $50k instead of 4.5 seconds for $75k.....I'd be intrigued.
@aussie2uGA5 ай бұрын
They already lose so many thousands per vehicle sold, it would be a bloodbath at a lower price point.
@wannabeangler5 ай бұрын
Mechanical always outlasts batteries- Mustang is my choice!
@wzDH1065 ай бұрын
Except for modern Toyota trucks
@darrendaine49145 ай бұрын
What you left out was the torque number
@MarcSob225 ай бұрын
BMW should make a M version of the I8
@markf15485 ай бұрын
I will take a V8 powered Mustang any day over any EV!
@timkinley17795 ай бұрын
I'd take any decent EV over a Ford Mustang.
@markf15485 ай бұрын
@@timkinley1779That’s your choice, I do not like it and think it’s wrong to have EVs shoved down our throats! This is America we use to have freedom of choice! Now it take it or leave it! I have a 53 year old Mustang on same engine and transmission, let’s see where your EV is in 50 years!
@Jay-me7gw5 ай бұрын
@@markf1548how are EV’s been shoved down your throat? Can you not still buy a Mustang or countless other gasoline powered sports cars? How many miles are on your Mustang? Does it ever leave the garage? Do you drive it in the snow? Because normal people drive their cars and many of us have to deal with snow and road salt. My parents 2017 Expedition with 92k miles is rusting apart already. In 53 years it will be a pile of red dust. So your point is very irrelevant.
@joerandom86784 ай бұрын
People said that with horses when cars were introduced. At some point, there weren’t many gas stations and cars were less reliable than horses… yet, here we are.
@Jay-me7gw4 ай бұрын
@@joerandom8678 dumb arguement. Horses couldn’t run at 30mph for hours on end and refuel in 2 minutes once they’re tired. There was a huge benefit to cars over horses. EV’s can’t refuel in 2 minutes when they are tired 😂. Other than being really fast and really efficient, EV’s don’t do anything better than ICE And I own a Chevy Bolt
@quick2mack745 ай бұрын
A Model S Plaid can’t beat a Sapphire in a drag race so of course a GT can’t beat a base Lucid 😂.
@williamwatson615 ай бұрын
Mine can
@nafsucof5 ай бұрын
that doesn’t even
@angelcartagena23754 ай бұрын
Mustangs are garbage.
@LukeEdward5 ай бұрын
I would love to see this test done with FIVE TFL guys. Roman, Andre, Tommy, Chase, & Kase. Time it and see which car full of guys gets down the track fastest.
@maxwellsmart87305 ай бұрын
Eliminating the launch would be a better race. How about 40-100 or 60-130?
@carculturenation21665 ай бұрын
how is that the fastest ford mustang when you have 760hp gt500 and if going for new mustang you can buy a supercharged 775hp saleen and shelby super snake and soon the 800hp gtd mustang. or dollar to dollar you can order a mustang gt with a whipple supercharger for 49k with warranty. Or 12k supercharger added to any mustang or v8 f150. Atleast needed the Darkhorse.
@19hundoc475 ай бұрын
Geez keep crying bro
@timkinley17795 ай бұрын
Those are Shelby's.
@Jeremy-cp9ti5 ай бұрын
Right???!!!
@charlienevergold36545 ай бұрын
Mustang and have the dealer installed supercharger installed. It would still be less or equal in price to the others.
@Pwj5795 ай бұрын
Mustang needs better tires 🛞
@carculturenation21665 ай бұрын
or atleast fring it down to sea level or heat the tires
@jasonlowery29355 ай бұрын
Add a supercharger in with the purchase to retain the warranty and I'd take the soulful V8.
@dannyyevcak15084 ай бұрын
Is that the slowest launch possible in a mustang?
@mig62205 ай бұрын
If I had $75k? It would be none of these- id grab a used Plaid!😁
@capstone-sr4ok5 ай бұрын
Let's b honest 😅there both slow ,,,,but when it comes to Lucid air sapphire v Dodge demon 170 🤣🤣
@inconel695 ай бұрын
how is that the fastest mustang?
@brandonhurtskovich66755 ай бұрын
Try and get an I8 serviced🤣 have to go with the mustang for a daily but the Lucid makes a great 3rd or 4th car just like any ev
@LivingFreeInAWrangler5 ай бұрын
14.08 is the fastest mustang? Fake news?
@dashwithhash61065 ай бұрын
Why would you not do best 2 out of 3, that was a terrible launch for the mustang
@gasgas87525 ай бұрын
Un car vs a toaster.
@Fordguy19975 ай бұрын
Did he just say shmedium tee shirt?
@blablah5384 ай бұрын
11:25 Technology "isn't as good as a Tesla"?!? Do you know anything about this car mechanically? Seriously. I'm what way?
@ayushmalpeddi27935 ай бұрын
At elevation EVs are faster and more efficient due to less air resistence
@mav45165 ай бұрын
“Classic American EV” no let’s not
@propertypreparedness68465 ай бұрын
Yup… I’m done.
@thatparticulargame60015 ай бұрын
It is, what do you mean not?
@mav45165 ай бұрын
@@thatparticulargame6001 nothing about it is American or Classic
@justinluttrell89905 ай бұрын
@mav4516 Lol are you high? It's manufactured in Casa Grande, AZ.
@stephenbarabas62865 ай бұрын
@@justinluttrell8990 yeah it is.... Except for that little problem of being backed by Saudi Arabia.... F that company....it needs to fail
@HONDANSXDUDE5 ай бұрын
On the highway the mustang got it and rolls
@KingLuis19855 ай бұрын
EV's will always be quick cars. But when you take them to the track, many of their downsides will turn up. (IE, weight. it'll ruin their braking and handling more and more the longer the lap goes because of the weight). But in a straight line, they take it because of the AWD and instant torque.
@markcoopers19305 ай бұрын
Except this Lucid is rear wheel drive. And the sapphire has proven to be capable on the track
@chrism8695 ай бұрын
The lucids are pretty capable on track
@spcneary5 ай бұрын
A model 3 performance weighs less than a scat pack, a bit more than a mustang. There is no track version, but with a few mods they run insane lap times. I would bet money your lap time would be faster around most tracks with a m3p vs a sports car that has to be driven correctly to actually go fast.
@baldeagle21285 ай бұрын
Thats not the fastest mustang
@C_J_815 ай бұрын
That would be the 2024 Mustang Mach E GT for the 1/4 mile. 😂
@BrianHurley-w7z4 ай бұрын
Is lucid bankrupt yet? Not yet….ok soon.
@joshuaenyart55705 ай бұрын
Wait a second why would you have to shift? Isn't that a 10-speed car just let it do its thing!
@tizodd65 ай бұрын
You'd have to get the GTD to have the fastest Mustang😁
@jghall005 ай бұрын
At that point may as well spring for a Lucid Air Sapphire.
@kevinnavarro8875 ай бұрын
new mustang is slower than Electric cars how terrible
@benjaminmatute90855 ай бұрын
Brodie, they are faster. Every gas car is faster than its electric counterpart because of how much lighter it is. However due to the EV’s instant torque gets it going off the line more. If the mustang was given for room or a 1/2 mile it’ll gap the lucid.
@fjalics4 ай бұрын
@@benjaminmatute9085The Plaid will do 200mph and 9.24 in a quarter mile. There are very few gas cars that can catch that. Maybe a ZR1. The Lucid Saphire is a little faster. The Rimac Nevera even faster.
@benjaminmatute90854 ай бұрын
@@fjalics 200 mph for 150k when a 90k super snake that’s hand made goes 217 mph.
@fjalics4 ай бұрын
@@benjaminmatute9085 I just googled, and it looks like the 2024 super snake sells for 160k, not 90. Not sure a half mile would be enough to catch a Plaid. It does the half mile in 14.64 seconds.
@benjaminmatute90854 ай бұрын
@@fjalics It would because the plaids weight would come into play. Especially since the super snake is 3,705 pounds and the plaid is 5,700 pounds heavy. Also the better aero on the snake woul easily catch up and it’s 10 speed would play a significant role. And on track. Also I was originally referring to the 2019-2023 version of the snake that goes for used at 90k. And it can do everything the new one can except the track part but it’s still close to the new one in track and it will definitely destroy the plaid at track. And mustangs are also known to pull at the 0-100 mark. One it hits its powerband it will reel that Tesla in like if it was parked.
@nachomandetailingservices10575 ай бұрын
Ford wins ❤❤❤❤
@christiandrangsholt8685 ай бұрын
mustang
@davidjernigan81615 ай бұрын
The lucid will be at it in how fast it depreciates.
@CaliforniaMISC5 ай бұрын
Ford could even worst in some zip codes
@miguelzamorano40393 ай бұрын
You said the fastest mustang, there's still faster mustangs than this, lets say the GT500 for instance.
@donwilber16285 ай бұрын
If you measured the Mustang's HP at that altitude, you'd see that you've basically handed the race to the Lucid. It's not a fair fight, and you know it, but continue to compare EVs with ICE at high altitude. WHY? Unsubed.
@Ivan-fw9vm5 ай бұрын
What's the point of being faster, mustang is very fast to get very big speeding ticket or get killed. People like mustang because of sound of beautiful V8 and fun driving it. EV's are just fast microwaves!! 😂 and I don't care much about it!!
@kabosune90975 ай бұрын
Because the EV microwave ain't farting out co2 at 14mpg
@rockyvi57095 ай бұрын
I want to see a refueling race. lol
@mcsike72645 ай бұрын
Lucid uses 900 architecture so about 11 or 18 mins to 80 so not that far off from gas 😂
@Jay-me7gw5 ай бұрын
Probably not as far off as you think. And you can recharge in your garage overnight so the 99.9% of the time you are not road tripping you never need to “refuel” other than while you sleep. It’s a pretty dumb argument tbh.
@rockyvi57095 ай бұрын
@@Jay-me7gw Your bias is showing…You are unable to grasp the simple fact that ice vehicles cannot only be refueled quicker but they also store more energy in a full tank of fuel than EVs. Furthermore in my opinion EV’s 15 minutes of fame is coming to an end along with all of the government taxpayer funded incentives. EVs are nothing more than another social experiment conducted by the government.
@Sport-wg2tv5 ай бұрын
No that is not the fastest mustang the Dark Horse is you guys lie again
@19hundoc475 ай бұрын
Keep crying bro
@billzkustomz5 ай бұрын
Gtd is
@Sport-wg2tv5 ай бұрын
@@billzkustomz true but for the everyday person to buy the Dark Horse is it
@garysarratt15 ай бұрын
Nobody ever said that.
@suedweppi4 ай бұрын
Tesla has better tech than the Lucid ????? What are you talking about specifically ???
@stephenbarabas62865 ай бұрын
Between the I8 and Lucid that was the most sad quiet finish line ever...
@RandyJM215 ай бұрын
Bringing a Mustang to a drag race in an EV world is like bringing a soft pretzel to a machine gun fight.
@302Mustang135 ай бұрын
Bringing a Mustang to a race like this at elevation on an unprepared surface is like apples and lobster.
@RandyJM215 ай бұрын
@@302Mustang13 Yeah , I think the big 3 ( ive owend multiple mustangs ( fox bodys), 67 Cougars , 68 Barracuda LS1 corvette and 2 LS1 f-bodies and i think the big 3s bighgest mistake and Fords was never having an AWD Mustang . Supposedly coming . Imagine a new coyote powered mustang with AWD. An american GTR > like if you could get a base4 AWD stang and throw a supercharger on it and have sticky tires and put all the power they want to make down outta the hole. Even with extra weight . GT 500 was haeavy as hell but cant get out of the hole . A base AWD car not meant for track duty , but rather stoplight muurder and 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile racing . people buy friggin heaavy ass brick faced F-150 with 4 WD and go pretty good with justa SC , tires and lowering a bit . The big 3 shyed away from AWD for pony and muscle mostly cuz people wanted V8 and tire smoke. But the Syclone was the gfastest thing out back in the day , and why GM killed it , for having better 0-60 and 1/4 then Vette . They shoud sell both and let one accelerate ? hook better and one be tail happy fun and better top end etc . Man ,
@wiznich5 ай бұрын
No it can't. End of story.
@mistersecret885 ай бұрын
Why bother?
@leebauman2232 ай бұрын
Not the fastest mustang?
@clarkwgriswold1575 ай бұрын
Both great cars. I’d give the Lucid 12 months worth of depreciation before buying one.
@chrism8695 ай бұрын
Or lease one, I heard there's crazy deals on leasing evs
@adamsdailydriveway5 ай бұрын
Is it me or do mustangs just get beat by everything.. all with less hp aswell. The Supra, the new z, base model 3, and so on.
@solarflare10085 ай бұрын
That mustang should be a shame. Even a 1987 Buick GNX is even faster……
@garys21575 ай бұрын
Yeah ok, 40 year old, at almost mile high, not blowing up and faster than a EV.
@Rando31able5 ай бұрын
I am personally coming around to EV's and btw I own a new Mustang as well.