Toyota 4Runner vs GX460 vs FJ - Which Of These Off-Roaders Is Best On the Road - No You're Wrong!

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for watching! Check out our OFF-ROAD review of these three SUVs on TFLoffroad! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYHIo6OedtZkZpY

[@retiredafce3373]

That was much better of an episode!

[@marcelluseli4630]

instablaster.

[@scottkim77]

on road... lol, anyone who's ever driven all of these know the gx is the hands down winner on road.

[@MrCherrygrovedude]

4Runner uses the same frame and suspension. A 4Runner with KDSS and a GX460 is the same thing.

[@felixsun3144]

@@MrCherrygrovedude you would also need a V8 to kill to engine noise and air suspension to bring 4r a little closer to the gx

[@Odat]

@@MrCherrygrovedude not really. The GX has a quiter engine as well as more sound proofing and double glass windows.

[@JB88-]

@@MrCherrygrovedude I've owned a 4RUNNER and now a GX. There is literally nothing similar when it comes to on road driving. The 4runner floats like an uncontrollable barge vs the GX which feels like a tank glued to the ground. 80 MPH in the GX feels like 40. 80 MPH in the 4runner feels like 120. GX all day!

[@TomBTerrific]

4 runner has the same V8?

[@theyoutuber273]

Spoiler alert: The best one is the one made by Toyota

[@therednsx]

What planet are you from; they're all made by Toyota.

[@therednsx]

@@TMish73829 You're so hilarious.

[@franciscarreon9409]

Lol!

[@dr._breens_beard]

@@therednsx yes.. that was the joke 🤦‍♂️

[@yaqalp]

I saw a what you did there. Good one lol

[@BGaud]

I have a hard time hearing the same person bash a 4Runner and praise a 2020 Defender.

[@EP50009]

A 2020 defender thats broken on them a ton of times

[@macrofocus1988]

Funny how a Land Rover will have more problems in its first 10K miles that a Toyota with 200K.

[@BGaud]

@@macrofocus1988 Toyota use the "Jidoka & Kaizen" methods during manufacturing.

[@mikefoehr235]

Imagine if rover put a toylota logo on their product and how much better it would be.

[@TCinSoCal]

This. All damn day.

[@jayjewett4260]

I’ve owned a 4runner TRD pro (2019) and now I drive a GX. So many reviews always have the “luxury” model. The most expensive GX with air suspension. The base one has KDSS and is amazing. You can get it brand new for around 55,000 which is very close to a TRD pro 4runner. So for roughly 3000 extra dollars can you get a silky smooth beautiful V8 and a transmission that is smoother and definitely better on the roads. The GX is amazing going 80 mph down the highway. The 4runner always felt like it was under powered and strained with no reserve for passing power. So from an on road perspective the GX is significantly better in my opinion and the MPG is almost identical. For sure a TRD pro 4runner is better off-road. That can be fixed on the GX which is definitely my plan (bumper/sliders). Let’s not forget that the GX can be had with red seats:-) To essentially be getting a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado with some luxury features for the same price or a little bit more than a TRDpro… The GX was the one for me. The V-8 alone is worth the up charge.

[@ryozha7663]

Exactly my thoughts bro

[@jamesharlanjohnson6882]

But that grill is horrendous

[@jilwankavian8733]

Well said

[@LOLAtheDESTROYER]

Are we just not going to talk about the extra torque in the GX? 4 runner has 278 and the GX has 329. It makes a huge difference in everyday driving.

[@Ulghart]

Get a GX460 from 2010 - 2013 for about 25 K in great shape. Put 10K on top of it on mods. You have a 35 K vehicle, comfortable for daily driving, and extremely off-road capable.

[@tvm2209]

What if you can only find a 2018 gx460 local vs only base trim 2010-2013 out of state?

[@rajmoran]

I own a 2010 FJC TT but I’ve driven 4Runners a lot. The 4Runner is the better road car and it’s not even close. Its visibility, road handling, and all around practicality far exceed that of the FJs. Also, magic rear window.

[@jacksonnadar2647]

I have a 2011 TT FJ and now I'm buying the 4Runner. Excited

[@rutgershouses]

@@jacksonnadar2647 I hope your keeping the Fj and buying the 4Runner I did the same as you and now I wish I kept the FJ, 4Runner is great! but I wish I kept the fj I miss her

[@OscarCastillo-fl9dw]

Fj is just different I own both and I prefer the fj is just different you don’t see it on the st looks so cool retro look so badass

[@manimalworks7424]

GX460 is a wolf in sheep’s skin. 4Runner is a wolf. FJ Cruiser is a coyote.

[@thyabalyemeni679]

That’s the best sum up! Excellent

[@Floof_Factory]

@@thyabalyemeni679 lexus is a luxury brand. I don't want my luxury car getting dirty with scratches so I'll stick with the 4runner

[@thyabalyemeni679]

@@Floof_Factory the 4Runner is way better on gas I am looking for one right now

[@actionfaction2558]

Seems about right. Nice Analogies.

[@actionfaction2558]

@@Floof_Factory …but the Lexus IS basically a Land Cruiser,…and the Land Cruiser is legendary. I’m not knocking the 4Runner though.

[@bobbytran8733]

I own a GX and the choice between the 3 was a tough one. The FJ is cool but more like a toy. The 4Runner was just as expensive as a comparable GX so the GX just made sense for me and I have a feeling they will soon shoot up in value.

[@therednsx]

We're aready there my friend. They're a solid value. I'm always on the look out for a cheap used low milage GX460. They're like the FJ's; not happening unless you take on a 250k miles in the deal and then they're still not giving them away.

[@tnc925]

I agree. Also the 4Runner is too boxy and too tight with no visibility

[@arabiantxn]

@@tnc925 have you driven one No visibility???

[@elitechen5918]

fj= toy for un 4runner for the family GX if u luv luxury

[@Jay-me7gw]

One thing you guys missed is, while the GX "only makes 31 more HP than the 4.0L, it makes 51 more TQ at a whooping 900 rpm lower. So hook a trailer up behind the two and let me know if the Lexus still offers nothing over the 4Runner. Full disclaimer, I own a 2011 GX and have towed my 5500 lb travel trailer around Utah with it, as high as 10,000', and it doesn't do half bad.

[@therednsx]

And Boom there it is. That's just one of many reasons you pay the extra $3k for a GX and why buying an older used GX is still a better deal than a new 4runner.

[@danoff__]

@@therednsx how the hell does a gx costs 3k more than a 4runner in usa and then here in europe it cost 2.2x the price of a 4runner :@

[@therednsx]

@@danoff__ TRD

[@therednsx]

@@danoff__ TRD Pro vs. GX460 base MSRP. There's less than $1000 difference between the fully loaded 4runner TRD Pro and the base GX460.

[@joefbtg28]

Peak torque on the GX is @ 3500 RPM! These professionals should understand what the stats are saying.

[@A-Negative]

Where are a “boatload” of FJs for sale? Good luck finding one. It’s the one of the most valuable used vehicles.

[@wesharris07]

Ya and they are not cheap. 8 years old wants $25,000

[@ndb8610]

Only saw one close to me and it's on the showroom floor for 30

[@TFLcar]

They are all over in Denver. Note not all of them are good, but there are a bunch of them

[@alextran8188]

You can find a whole lot of them. They are just expensive.

[@LiL13izzy7]

As long as they continue to hold their value, FJ owners will sometimes be tempted to sell. And everyone else will always be waiting in the wings for that moment. That's the FJ market.

[@juvalflorestorres7142]

I picked up a used 2018 Luxury GX in the summer. Absolutely the best vehicle I have ever owned.

[@SerdarCizmeci]

Loved this new format, same car, different drivers, right after each other with small segments. It is perfect!!! Thank you guys!

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Me laughing at a 5 speed transmission, then getting in my old 4 speed F350 to drive to work.

[@dalefrolander3583]

Roman says you can't keep building the same old 4runner and expect people to keep buying it. Funny how they keep selling 4runners in record numbers.

[@boggstucson5415]

As someone who owns and drives both the GX460 and the 4Runner, I think the GX is much more comfortable for road trips. Unfortunately, the V8 requires Premium gasoline, so is significantly costlier. The 4Runner is a reliable workhorse, that is more utilitarian while tolerable for road trips. If cost was not an issue, I’d choose the GX for the comfort of long cross-country trips.

[@davidhunt9692]

I'm going to let you in on a secret. The GX runs just fine on regular octane. My land cruiser "requires premium" too. but its well documented it makes no difference in longevity or mpg whatsoever.

[@minorthreat5276]

​@@davidhunt9692thanx. That's exactly what I suspected but hadn't read it yet.

[@sly9263]

If $400 over 10,000 miles is significant to you, then you shouldn't own any of these vehicles.

[@1pittmanj]

@@sly9263 I am confused where does the extra $400 come from?

[@sly9263]

@@1pittmanj then you didnt look at the comment I replied to in this very short thread

[@hyperbluewrx]

I used to be a valet for a tower of CEO’s and executives and whoever else. Most common vehicle they owned besides German luxury? Yep, Toyota 4runners or Platinum Explorers! If Toyota updated their interior more and drivetrain, they would sell much more than they already do.

[@mikewellington2738]

Thank you! Been saying this for a long time!

[@TCinSoCal]

In our driveway right now is a Porsche Panamara and a Toyota 4Runner TRD ORP.

[@pinoy413]

2010-2013 Gx460 had the best front end. Best front end clearance and was the face-lift before the "Predator mouth". Looked better, functioned better and essentially the same truck/engine etc as the most current ones. One example of how capable the GX was: First off road trip in the GX was on street tires and stock everything. 4 runner that was lifted on all terrains had trouble getting up some obstacles. GX in stock form got up no problem. You guys need to get a hold of one of the earliest versions of the Gx and try it out.

[@ChrisN06999]

"...it is useless but luckily you don't drive the FJ Cruiser from the back seat you typically drive it from the front seat, if you're carrying passengers it sucks to be them..." I felt that.

[@firebir11]

“You can’t keep expecting people to keep on buying the 4Runner “ except they are...129,000 in 2020...the year of the pandemic. (131,000 in 2019) !!

[@daltonv5206]

I bought one in May. Love it! Idk why I waited so long. Everything I was looking for. Reliable, capable, and low tech.

[@barnesbuilt1250]

Lol I bought one two weeks ago. I love it.

[@sluttrainer4061]

Beastly apocalypse vehicle

[@johnmatthew9306]

Gx is king baby

[@rightlanehog3151]

GX sales were up by 10% in 2020 while the 4Runner had another solid year in a down market. Who knows how many discount 4X4s Toyota could sell if they still offered something priced like the FJ was when it first came out.

[@threesetstofailure9941]

I have owned both the FJ and currently a GX 460 and the GX is built to such a high standard it's really true about Japanese craftsmenship with both of these vehicles. Cons of the GX are fuel economy but I knew that before I bought it. Fulltime 4wd with a reliable Toyota V-8 is where it shines. Plenty of torgue to get it moving down the road but it's not a racecar for sure. I would say the engine power is "OK". The torque is the best benefit with an example of a 50mph speed it sits around 1200 rpm. At 70-75 mph it sits around 1800 -1900 rpm. Average hwy mileage is around 21 mpg with 4 passengers and gear. In town due to it's weight, it is getting around 16-17 mpg starting and stopping. One of the most reliable engines and drivetrain combos in modern times. These Gx 460s are each taken to a track and driven by 2 people for a series of driving tests before it can ship. This is how you get the quality in a product they have skilled workers and they take pride in the cars they produce. Go watch a factory tour video and see how things are made at Lexus. Pretty fanatical.

[@GeneralJameson]

Just on looks I would take the 4 runner in a heartbeat, but if I had to live with one daily in my very urban setting it would be the Lexus without hesitation.

[@chuckmiller2951]

That is exactly the choice I made, but I do get more seat time in my Tacoma.

[@jd2plus2]

Don’t test drive the GX , you won’t go back .....best deal out there find a 2-3 year old GX ....it’ll last forever and cheaper than new 4 runner . Only problem is poor gas mileage .....but with less maintenance, I’ll plan for that

[@DDL-n2u]

You’re missing out then. GX crushes off road

[@GeneralJameson]

@@DDL-n2u you're saying I'm missing out on something by choosing a more capable off-road vehicle for my Urban setting oh ok you know I have to go pick up a couch next week maybe I should just buy a semi truck.

[@DDL-n2u]

@@GeneralJameson I see this flew completely over your head. The Lexus is MORE capable and is more civilized in town. That's the point.

[@ST-wi9eq]

Best on the Road? But you guys just keep talking about differences in design, features, value proposition, etc but where's the actual comparison of the on road performance? Acceleration, dB especially HT vs AT tyres, cargo volume, parking, etc

[@kichaa13]

There's a lexus in the group, pretty much 100% it's the best. But yes, would've been nice to compare that to the others. All they talk about is how old they are blah blah. Nothing about comfort and road noise. Fj road noise is awful above 80kmh

[@hamzaashraf1567]

Watch savage geese for that lol

[@AndrewAtkinson1]

The trd pro Fox shocks are probably higher grade than the Lexus coilovers. My 470 coilovers were kyb stock and my Bilstein 5100 are much better. BTW the boys at GXOR have many better shock options and often look down at the 5100s.

[@northerntoyota7584]

The 4runner is a very well built vehicle. More gears in the transmission and that’s all it needs. Leave it alone!

[@marimashburn7796]

I think not needs a better turn radius.

[@cricky6239]

@@marimashburn7796 I have a 2010, first year of the fifth gen and I’ve never had any complaints about the turning radius

[@displayedimagination9710]

This is one of the best reviews you guys have done together in a long time. Classic TFL Review from the OG days. 🍻😎🍻

[@somguy5035]

Roman wins Every weakness the GX has can be fixed with a little cash But the FJ and 4runner will never have the comfort of the GX

[@jayhiggins5239]

I have driven the Prado and 4 Runner for many kilometers. GX for the win.

[@noctilucent7396]

The 4R and the Prado are the Gx and vice versa

[@anbigal764]

I just bought a 2013 gx460 and I love it. Super comfortable and capable in the snow

[@trigganometry168]

I got my 2020 Gx460 premium with sport design package for $51270. “Makes a lot of sense” I would not get the luxury trim for $70+ . Just missing the rear bags which I didn’t want and I could install crawl control mod for $$ cheap.

[@corbylambert9429]

A Toyota 4Runner was always a vehicle I wanted to buy until I started traveling abroad and fell in love with the prado. The original 4runner with the removable top will always be special to me but I'll take a gx over a newer 4runner any day! I love my gx!

[@noctilucent7396]

The 4runner is almost completely identical to the Prado

[@colesisler582]

@@noctilucent7396 the gx460 literally is a prado…it just has some extra poshness and a new badge. The 4runner is a different vehicle, but is still pretty similar.

[@noctilucent7396]

@@colesisler582 nah, prado is v6

[@noctilucent7396]

@@colesisler582 the 4R and the gx aren't sold over seas, the gx is the luxury version of the Prado kinda like the LX is the luxury version of the LC. The 4runner is the Spartan version of the Prado like the LC is the Spartan Version of the LX.

[@noctilucent7396]

@@colesisler582 the reason the 4R sells more than the GX in the used market is because long term will out last the gx, it's litterly the same thing but weighs two morbidly obese people less so the exact same components will last longer due to less stress put on them. It's the same thing but a different format. After the 3rd gen 4Runner they moved from the hilux surf platform to the Prado platform. Anyway, 4R if you want a work horse Gx is you want a luxurious 4R, it's mind blowing how few people know the 4R is a LC Prado. It's probably a great hidden secret.

[@6202ken]

4runner for overall(on road vs off-road). I’ve been in many cars with more gears but really... the 4runner 5speed tuning is almost perfect. You can’t even notice it and it shifts so good with the right pull to it.

[@colesisler582]

The GX shifts far smoother. I have owned both.

[@bonusb2924]

Until you get on the HWY

[@wutherichwinter2931]

yes its dated but the transmission wont kill you

[@michaelblock3998]

The 30 horses and 42 ft lbs of torque of the GX make a huge difference when climbing in the mountains. Better payload in the GX and most of us have a Sawzall!! Best of all a 2 year old GX cost similar to the 4 Runner that is 2 years old. GX all the way!!

[@jd2plus2]

Once you drive a GX you never want anything else . It’s turning circumference is even better than 4 runner . One day when mine gets old I’ll chop the front bummer , and get off road tires . If the air bags go , I’ll lift it . Can hardly wait . Plus wife loves it

[@ericaho3837]

I really wanted a four runner but could not pick between the limited package or offroad, fulltime 4x4 vs kdss. I got GX for the best of both worlds and I am super happy with my decision, it may not look as cool but it's definately a better truck.

[@craigdeloach3976]

The 4 runner anyday!! The front end of that Lexus is hideous!

[@NRGRX]

Dude the 2013 and earlier models had a nicer grill

[@rutgershouses]

I totally agree!!! I love the gx but the big ass grill turns me off and where is the bumper ???!!!

[@jasoncampeau2948]

The market of those FJ is crazy tho, they really hold there value

[@therednsx]

I love how people talk about the GX460's shortcomings, yet it's always there being stacked up against whatever the new hotness is at the moment. I'll admit that I have no love for the 2021 Lexus GX body molding crap. Yes; I agree that they should go back to the 2010 front end and throw on some rock sliders. But if you have 2021 GX460 dollars then cutting the bumper cover (to add an actual bumper) and replace the running boards, it just budget dust. The other two items that you may want to be change out (to hit the trail) are the tires and the intake (with an AFe Momentum GT Cold Air Intake System w/Pro 5R Filter Media) for the grunt the kid was tweaking about (basically you need to take that bubble wrap off the hammer so you can use it). I don't know what happened to the 0-60 time for the 2021 GX, but my 2010 is under 7 seconds at sea level. I'm okay with it being normally aspirated because the average elevation of the United States is roughly 2500 feet above sea level and that pushes my stock HP down to about 278. As for gas mileage; I don’t mind paying at the pump as I’m out $0.00 in repairs on my 2010 (correction I did replace a fuse back in 2018) and my GX depreciates at a rate of about $4.00 a day (5 year average). This is some I could never brag about with any of my Mercedes vehicles. So bash away guys; as I’ve literally don’t see a need to purchase a need SUV to replace the GX I have. But in the future, please don’t tell me how crappy a 4runner is and then how great a Land Rover is (they are much better these days) as it’s like peeing on my leg and telling me it’s raining. BTW; I still absolutely love the show…..You guys know how to have fun…….P.S. The 2021 Lexus GX460 is what happens when you let the Marketing guys manage a Toyota Prado.

[@sly9263]

The shortcomings of the GX impact only extreme offroading, so 2% of the actual 5% of owners who off-road them in the first place... It's inconsequential. Most of the people doing crazy offroading aren't buying new/paying Lexus anyway, so they're irrelevant. The few people offroading these are taking them on dirt and gravel roads, pastures, live in heavy snow and other "real world" scenarios rather than extreme hobbyist rock climbing nonsense.

[@sixtomidnight1492]

If there was ever a time for a new FJ it's right now. Come on Toyota!

[@therednsx]

Consider building out a used GX................................

[@InvestBetter.]

7:40 Roman is incorrect, but he's getting old, and just wants to be coddled The Toyota 4Runner is The People's Champion, as over 125,000 Americans bought one last year Last year was the 4th straight year mighty 4Runner's has sold over 125k, the best sales run in it's long history The 4Runner strikes the balance between the FJ's ability and the Lexus' softness

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

....rest of the compertors suck all soft roaders , luxury cars over priced for what you get ..defender , explorer ST , pathfinder ,BMW X5 , outlander , etc.............

[@InvestBetter.]

@Hawk Daddy Don't get butthurt, Ford fangirl, just because some facts were sprinkled into this.

[@shrayesraman5192]

@Hawk Daddy What about a tesla and 4runner fanboy?

[@InvestBetter.]

@Hawk Daddy Don't get mad because you know I'm right. Have the last word. It'll make you feel better.

[@beexiong2995]

Most comfortable and daily drivable is the gx. Most offroad capable and for weekend fun, FJ. The middle ground is the 4Runner. The GX 4.6 V8 is hands down better than the 4.0 V6. Basically more usable torque which makes daily driving easy. Also the GX is fulltime 4WD which helps maintain traction at all times in all terrain.

[@gideonighodalo3476]

I just love the Lexus GX460... Although it is expensive.

[@PatrickRich]

Man, you think the FJC is tight? my cousin has one with a 3rd row installed that he takes his whole family wheeling in. 7 people! No I don't know why either.

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

That was a very well put together video guys and hilarious!!!

[@scottyellis3442]

Lexus is hands down the best on road vehicle out of the three, but give me the 4runner anyday.

[@PrituBhai]

The 4Runner has something that the GX and the FJ definitely don’t have. APPLE CARPLAY AND ANDROID AUTO!!!

[@chuckderuyter]

The GX right now makes more sense. Any TRD Pro in California is going over MSRP by 5-10k. The 2022 GX has a totally redesigned center console and infotainment screen. And locally I can get it cheaper than the 4Runner go figure. The V8 will last for a million miles. The FJ is discontinued so I won’t mention it since I’m looking at a new vehicle. This GX is loaded and is over 70K. GX’s start at 55k and a decent optioned one at 60 is still way more luxurious and enough to tackle the great outdoors. A 2” lift for 1500 bucks plus installation and some bigger tires and it’ll eat some decent trails for breakfast Check out some KZbin videos on lifted GX’s they are no slouch.

[@J_Eusebio]

Owned an FJ, sold it, I now have a GX, it’s way more comfortable and more powerful and bigger than the other two. FJ’s are cool as hell but I prefer the GX.

[@bonusb2924]

The 4Runner is awful on the hwy at elevation. Driving between CO & NM @75 w/hills, wind, we got 11mpg, white knuckled. Great in town and off road though. Went with an LR3 and an LR4. So comfy and capable.

[@tangchiprathomo819]

My heart says FJ, my brain tells me it is 4Runner.

[@michelt4390]

Your brain is smart...

[@whoeverwhoever400]

Me too, but my wallet tells me it is Rav4.

[@nightdipper5178]

10:50 "You can't expect people to keep buying the 4runners" Thanks for the laugh! You were joking right?

[@andyham6094]

The 4Runner is just the most versatile. Comfortable on road yet just a capable tank off road. It’s just the perfect balance between the other 2, it’s more similar to the fj but feels like a perfect middle ground and just the most versatile for all different driving and lifestyles. The fj is still a super fun awesome little truck but not as versatile as the 4Runner and doesn’t have as much room.

[@miltondejesus2076]

Owning both the Gx460 and the FJ, I can agree with a lot of the comments. The FJ was my daily driver and it’s awful with kids especially car seats. For two people it’s great and will go anywhere but it’s not a family vehicle

[@freedomvan2970]

Guys, I love your content, but it's too hard to keep up with so many channels. Just create a consolidated brand, you're big enough and have a huge following!

[@SebastianJose]

FJ is the best Toy given its age and off road worthiness.

[@MrRmga420]

Fj cruiser, 4th gen 4Runner, Lexus GX470, and Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 120 are on the same J120 platform 5th gen 4Runner, Lexus GX460, and Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 150 are all on the J150 platform. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I have owned a 4Runner and a GX460 and I have to say I went from the Toyota to the Lexus because the 4Runner Is absolutely gutless once you get people and gear inside of it. The Lexus is not only more comfortable but that extra power makes all the driving experience.

[@AIDANPEREIRA]

hey. that 4.6Lv8 getting 16mpg is good. my dad has a 2016 ford edge awd with a 3.5L v6 and despite it not being or feeling fast it gets an average of 15l/100km which is about 15.5 mpg( he doesnt even drive fast).... so the gx has 2 more cylinders, 2 more seats, is more heavy, makes more power, can actually go offroad and gets better miles to the gallon than a 3.5L v6 from ford...

[@nightdipper5178]

52K for the 4 runner "OR" 60K for the *2022 Green GX460 "Black line special edition"* with a V8 and all that luxury, it's a no brainer. Buy both, I have a 5th gen 4r and my GX is arriving at the port of los angeles in 2 days.

[@ladybird808s]

I’ll be honest I own an FJ cruiser it’s like being in a dryer filled with bricks but does make a striking presence

[@SkywalkerPMs]

Im keeping my '22 GX. Ive driven across country several times now, averaging 18mpgs. Dont care that it takes premium. Its classy too.

[@mechmat12345]

Except in five years they're all the same price and suddenly the Lexus is a slam dunk.

[@MrJamesLuz]

I think the key here is if you could only have one “do it all” vehicle, the 4Runner wins every time. I’m not a Toyota fan boy, but if I had to downsize and could only have one family car it would probably be a 4Runner. The wrangler lacks interior space for a family of 5 and the Bronco isn’t out yet. Subarus are cool but are soft roaders (I say that owning one and a couple of 4x4s) And I’m gonna get heat for this too but the Tacoma isn’t practical for the price. If you need a truck go full size. If you want Toyota reliability get a 4Runner.

[@itr0863]

you are right about the tacoma. my wife's old CRV has more rear seat room than the taco. i have an 18' 4R off road and the rear seats are perfect for the size of the 4R.

[@MrBillsfishin]

Roman is at that age where comfort is the #1 deciding factor. Lol. Stupid thing is if they just gave it the same treatment as the one they converted for that show they would probably sell tens of thousands at 80k to 90k. People would by that comfort and luxury if it just had 33" tires, a high quality 3" lift without the air suspension, a locker and some real bumpers and skid plates for protection.

[@blang1]

I guess it all depends on what you need. The GX with V8 and 4 wheel has been great for towing my tritoon boat and pulling it out of the water on a steep wet boat ramp. I also plan on getting a camper so I'm not sure I would want the 4Runner V6.

[@blueplanet1048]

On the road GX is the best there is no contest. And you can feel the price difference in driving it. There is a big difference unlike other brands

[@juliandrake3159]

I just bought a 2022 GX460 Premium and the updated infotainment system in this is much much better than the old one. Plus, if you price a 4Runner TRD Pro these days good luck finding one at MSRP but I just paid MSRP for my GX. I love my GX and can't wait to take it out to the desert to do some off-roading. The FJ is just full of compromises and it doesn't really work as a daily driver nor can you haul much in it. This is a car for a single 20 year old.

[@mohammeds5458]

Good choice if I were you I'll do the same without thinking about 4runner

[@mechmat12345]

Or don't worry about the screen and buy one that's 5 years old for less than a same year 4runner

[@marsarmory6236]

I have both a gx and t4r trail, both lightly modded and it’s a toss up. For family stuff/road trips goes to the gx and for off road and camping I go with the t4r. My bro had a fj and he eventually changed to a 4runner due to the low viz and horrendous highway noise.

[@willblake72]

CPO GX460 2017/18 with 40k miles are going for around $36-$40k now. I've been cross shopping those with 4-Runner TRD Off Road, Bronco Sport BL, Wrangler, and F150 and the Lexus seems like the best deal for a dog hauling daily driver that can take me camping an tow a little trailer.

[@arabiantxn]

I consistently get 20 mpg on my gen 4 4 runner v6. Which has the same engine and transmission as the 4runner in the video. Mine gas 270K miles on it . Also if I baby it ie drive it slowly and steady( hypermilling) I can get up to 22 mpg

[@guitaristwagner]

@arabiantxn thx for this comment. I was wondering what kind of real world mpg 4runner got since Toyota rates it at 16/19 mpg

[@johnp2931]

The cement segment with Tommy is gold. Hahaha. I was laughing so hard.

[@h3runs]

Really seems like the 4Runner is just an updated transmission away from being a near perfect all rounder.

[@chasdj1915]

A new transmission and engine, and some more tech. Not too much, but just a little more....

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@chasdj1915 I mean tech is perfect rn. Cept for cameras. But it has latest safety features and apple carplay etc. And trans and engine are reliable af and most people dont want them to change

[@Dragonfly35RacingTeam]

The FJ is great on road idk what you guys are saying. I daily drove one for 45k miles. Lifted and tinted. It was great! So much fun to drive around. Comfortable and stable up to above highway speeds. The rear seats were comfortable as all hell in my opinion. Felt like being in a cave haha.

[@Dragonfly35RacingTeam]

Also the FJ and 4runner are based on the same chassis and drivetrain. Should drive pretty similarly.

[@sly9263]

If you think the FJ is great on road then you don't have much driving experience across different vehicles or you're just not aware of the different dynamics you're feeling

[@Dragonfly35RacingTeam]

@@sly9263 it’s no Miata, but I’ve driven things from E30 M3’s to 911’s, to F-350’s. The FJ doesn’t corner like a sports car. But it isn’t one. But what it is is significantly better on road than a wrangler. 😂

[@twofjs6334]

I have both an FJ Cruiser and a GX460; the 2010 FJ was $28K and has 94K mile, the 2012 GX was $24K. I thinks they are both great vehicles but it is hard to not like the luxury of a Lexus. I am taking the FJ off-road to Lake City but I am taking the Lexus on the road trip to Denver.

[@Odat]

GX for sure. A beast off road yet sexy on road.

[@dalefrolander3583]

TRD Off road 4runner with kdss is the best. The kdss makes it corner like it's on rails and the kdss comes with stiffer shocks so it doesn't have the TRD Pro nose dive issue.

[@naturalLin]

Gx 460 for me. Because I can.

[@JS-nu9bt]

We have a gx460 and love it. Next step is to put a nice 3in lift with some offroad capable tires.

[@Real_Natural]

5 speed transmissions. 2021. Better get a Highlander hybrid as fuel prices are headed up.

[@R.Nelson]

Hey TFL!!!! Morning!!! Thanks for waking me up!!😎💙Love this show... pizza 🍕 for breakfast!!

[@matthewrobertson156]

Toyota = OLD TFL summed it up well. Great job TFL.

[@matthewrobertson156]

@MysteriousOklahoma Old=profitable . Easy to make money when your research was paid for in the 90s.

[@Peter_Wang]

ahhh three dudes having the girth vs length debate. War never changes

[@Tarzan91303]

The comment about the cement color really dates the 4Runner. I’ve head of “old as dirt” but not “old as cement”. That was brutal.

[@Scoharr]

You could buy a 5-year old 4Runner or a 5-year old GX460 - or an RX350 - or a 2012 FJ Cruiser all for around the same price.

[@joskjj3625]

Though we have lost the land cruiser Atleast we have the 4Runner,gx460 and sequoia

[@aaronjackson4497]

we still have the land cruiser, it's just wearing a lexus tuxedo (LX570)

[@bmartin7828]

Great video. I love all three of these and seriously looking at a GX460 and 4Runner to be honest. Also looking at a Nissan Armada(Patrol) for hauling the fam damily.

[@bmartin7828]

Here in Indiana tbh. Prob not an FJ because it’s old, but would love to have one for a toy indeed Roman. It is def an amazing off-roader.

[@Cbv1914]

Look at a used GX460 around 13’. I love mine and it was a no brainer in cost comparison, power and features compared to the 4Runner. The luxury feel and tank like feel is just a perfect mix. They say there isn’t much of a power difference but switch the 4Runner to 4wd and it’s a major difference.

[@jd2plus2]

I wanted a 4 runner trd, simply not available last year , dealer said he only got 2/ yr and no customization. So bought a 2017 GX 460 luxury kdss, trans cooler , crawl , the works ,for $15000 less than new fully loaded 4Runner . It’ll last more than 10 years easy . After driving it , I’ll never want anything else and happy I didn’t get 4 runner ( wife over the top ) . Can’t compare

[@hugostiglitz8465]

Dont overlook the Sequoia, it has full third row with plenty of headroom and a very solid v8.

[@luvslogistics1725]

I have a 5th gen trd orp 4Runner and love it. The GX takes premium fuel and has a side opening hatch, not a fan of. The FJ has a hard to see out of windshield. Yes I overpaid for my 4Runner, $54k…when it is really worth say $40-42k just 2-3 years ago.

[@jonlosito2004]

FJ Cruiser for extreme off roading, 4 Runner for on and off roading, and the GX for mostly on roading, off roading too

[@mohammeds5458]

No Best of three is gx

[@lexuslfa4739]

I'm sorry guys, I keep mentioning it, but no toyota SUV has air suspension. They are all coil springs. The only toyota to come with air suspension is the lexus LS and century. The rest of Toyota's AHC is done by hydraulics fitted above the suspension towers.

[@lexuslfa4739]

@@audreyappliance the GX doesn't have air suspension, although the front doesn't also have the hydraulic lift kits.

[@gregpst77]

Nice review guys. I don't see the value in getting a new 2021 GX when there have been little updates since 2012. Lexus needs to update that screen that is the same as 2012 and infotainment. Finding a used 2014-16 is where the best value is.

[@bmartin7828]

It’s so hard to wait for a new 4Runner, GX460, Sequoia, Armada(Patrol) when I’m planning on buying a three row suv in less than a year. Pulling out my hair indeed. I’ll figure it out when I decide to buy and drive them in about 9 months. Def not a Tahoe based on reliability. Sorry GM, or what comes next in the next 9 months. But a Prado, omg they’re amazing.

[@jcangler88]

The GX IS a Prado, just more luxury.

[@mikefoehr235]

Not one CEL was illuminated in this video.

[@gazelom]

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[@nicholasgrover2993]

I own 2017 GX460 50k miles amazing SUV and I live in Alaska. I like the 4runner but I got kids need that 3rd row yo.

[@RPD91]

The Prado (GX 460). The FJ Cruiser can be annoying to drive on highways.

[@neilmurphy845]

Yes with a 2.4 or the 3.0 D-4D that's the truck I'd get the brand new 2.8 I'm not to sure about.

[@joeyy9033]

Loved the format. Excellent way to cover the pros and cons. Great video.

[@Smitty_76]

Y'all quoted horsepower numbers but failed to mention torque. That's where the 4.6L V8 shines along with self leveling air suspension. The GX460 out tows all of them handily.

[@Lamidnightsss]

Crazy how I was car shopping weeks ago. I was dead set on the GX. Then I drove a 4Runner. I then drove the GX right after. And the GX (2019) just felt …dated. I understand the 4Runner is also dated but something about the runner felt ..right for me. At home.

[@andrewbismire6538]

I didn't know Toyota sold a v8 Prado in the US with a Lexus badge. in Australia they're diesel only I believe

[@DRE-zn7kj]

Yeah where I live we too get the diesel Prado but I think there are petrol variants but they would be horrible for fuel economy you could get the Lexus version in RHD

[@lexuslfa4739]

@@DRE-zn7kj yeah we also have 2 versions of the petrol Prado, the 4.0 ltr v6 and the 2.7 ltr

[@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga]

I my opinion the Prado looks way better than the Lexus Gx despite not having a V8

[@DRE-zn7kj]

@@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga it honestly doesn’t need a v8 I do agree however the ride isn’t all that comfortable if it was possible to put the Lexus suspension on the Prado I wouldn’t mind buying one

[@lexuslfa4739]

@@DRE-zn7kj the kakadu has the same setup suspension wise

[@macrofocus1988]

If you buy a GX to be a city car, you're doing it wrong. GX460 truck should be classified as a purpose built off-roader, wearing a Lexus costume. There are probably 20 better options for the money if you are driving the kids to soccer practice.