Off-Roading Two Military Icons Until One Breaks...

[@TFLclassics]

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[@alanhinkel420]

Who was the first company to make wrist watches? Do y’all know?

[@Buzzrust1]

Check out flat fenders on the Rubicon trail guys.

[@jamestyndall529]

It's going on 90 not 100

[@williamhadley1580]

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[@jamesbeaman6337]

@@williamhadley1580don’t I wish that GSAR was only $650. I’m seeing $1200 on that site myself. Great watches from Marathon but too rich for my blood. I’ll stick with my Deep Blue Daynight OPS knockoff of the GSAR I found used for about 1/5th that price.

[@NeoVoodooTech]

That Army mechanic dude showing up made this video. That's kinda the same way mail delivery trucks work, they have a set budget per lifetime of the vehicle and once exceeded that vehicle is no longer repaired and is auctioned/sold. Very cool!

[@MB-wu3qe]

Thanks for the nice comment. I'm that guy ha. I wish he had let me prep for the interview because I said a few wrong things. Like "fuel injectors" I meant " fuel injection pump"

[@NeoVoodooTech]

@@MB-wu3qe Ay no worries man you did great! Thanks for your service.

[@HawkinsLeather]

@@MB-wu3qe God bless and enjoy your freedom with your family off-roading! We use GovX, so drop on by our site and we will hook you and all military / first responders up.

[@dpav02]

@@MB-wu3qeI watch TFL all the time. You did great! It almost seemed like it was fake / planted with how well you did! Thank you for your service and it was cool that you stopped by to genuinely try to help.

[@sixpest]

Its kinda sad when ya think of it. And why our defense bill is so high

[@BurrWolf]

I drove these M998 HMMWV in the Army in the 90's as a 13F (Drove the FSO For a year) and I knew instantly you ran out of fuel. These things are thirsty beasts and the fuel gauge is really more of a suggestion powered by the hopes and dreams of the Butterbar leading your convoy.

[@InchonDM]

If they were fueled on petty ambition, though, they'd run around the world twice.

[@kylemaskell722]

You only have a 300 mile range on a tank of fuel and the armor variants had just over 200 miles to a tank of fuel just me they will get you right to the next fuel stop and now further.

[@tedparker640]

King of battle! I served for 14 years, first as a 63B, then went to 19E school, did that for 4 years, then in '91 when desert shield turned to desert storm was at Ft. Sill maxing the 13F class (graduated with a 96.7 percentile) and later took a 13C course. Some great times! I started on the M151 jeep, then on to M998. We had a diy box plans to slide into the back of the 998 for our FSE truck at the 29th divarty! Good stuff!

[@medicburd]

Bruh. You got me dying here. 😂🤣 Honestly, I’m surprised that thing wasn’t deadlined.

[@chadalcock7275]

I drove around the brigade FSO for a while as a 13F, also COLT. I don't think I would ever own a HMMWV if you paid me. Now the M42, in a heartbeat (if I could afford one).

[@dpav02]

I loved the Army Mechanic stopping by to see if he could help without hesitation. You can tell he’s a good dude and I thank him for his service.

[@Precisionreelworks]

military tires at the time had no directional tread pattern so the enemy couldnt tell which way the convoys were moving

[@vettle1]

Some of the tires did have a design pattern where you could tell if it was facing a certain way but they were not directional tires but we also mixed them up whether they were facing " forward or backwards" on the vehicle

[@danam0228]

Very smart

[@johnchestnut5340]

And you got the same traction both directions.

[@Chainmailninja]

Also fwiw pizza cutters are good for mud, as long as you can dig to the bottom.

[@danam0228]

@@johnchestnut5340 lol

[@davidjernigan8161]

The Jeep has been completely restored and rebuilt. The HMMV is probably due for some major refurbishment. Big difference

[@Cloud30000]

You aren’t wrong, but most of the work was on the exterior; the engines in those Willy’s last forever, and likely was barely touched during restoration.

[@classicgunstoday1972]

I’m not sure the Jeep is fully restored. If you go to their first video on it, it only gets up to about 48 mph tops. Just about all the willys jeep enthusiast I’ve talked to say that if you can’t get at least 55-60 out of the MB, that’s indicative of an engine not maintained or built wrong.

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

Making sure it has fuel in it goes a long way.

[@mr.butterworth]

The big difference - besides 40+ years development between them, is that as far as 4X4’s go, the Humvee is an exotic. And you know how it goes with exotics, they need attention. The Jeep obviously on the other hand is just as basic as can be, less to go wrong.

[@NickTarterOKC]

Also, HMMV is absolutely gargantuan and the Jeep is light and nimble so you are right... BIG difference.

[@MB-wu3qe]

I appreciate TFL allowing me to speak on HMMWVs. For the record I meant" fuel injection pump" not "fuel injector" haha. I like HMMWVs and would love to own one but at the moment I was thinking like a mechanic who just knows how much of a pain they can be since the Army allows them to sit up so long. The good ol kick the tires and the PMCS is done type of thing (not that that's the way the Army/ leadership wants it done)

[@alanhinkel420]

Thanks for your service.

[@tedparker640]

Just curious if you started as a 63B like I did in '85, or did you go straight to the 91B series. Also where did you go to Advanced training? I did mine at lost-in-the-woods...

[@ravensfan7200]

Thank you for your service 🤝

[@Cornbread199]

I can't believe you made it through an interview about the HMMWV without letting a single swear word slip. You're a stronger man than me bro. I guess since they were in the desert, they couldn't really appreciate the heat coming off the engine and transmission directly into the cab. It is great for those long winter days though.

[@RockMountainYJ]

No matter what’s wrong with it…it’s considered 10 level maintenance

[@grahamstretch6863]

My dad drove one in 1944 - 45, he said you were actually “only in control of a Jeep when your arse was on the seat and all 4 wheels were on the ground and that coincidence was rare!” Bear in mind they weren’t pottering around like you guys, they were going hell for leather with bullets chasing them a good bit of the time!

[@drcovell]

In the old Reader’s Digest section *Humor in Uniform* there was a story about an incident in Vietnam where the 4 men in the Jeep got caught in an ambush. They jumped out, each grabbed a corner of the Jeep, swung it around 180 degrees and took off back the way they came. Couldn’t do that to a Humvee. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheMeanmarine13]

as someone who drove humvees for 4 yrs in the Corps, avoid humvees all together unless you enjoy hearing loss and maintenance issues lmao

[@jamesengland7461]

Huh? 😂

[@bldontmatter5319]

They're military grade, meaning cheap and low quality (but solid as a rock)​@@jamesengland7461

[@RockMountainYJ]

I can’t hear you over my military grade tinnitus.

[@Here_is_Waldo]

@RockMountainYJ the military has determined that your military grade hearing loss that occurred during your military service was in fact NOT caused by the military.

[@RockMountainYJ]

@@Here_is_Waldo when applying for a disability rate increase; I actually had a red deny my claim stating I have two functioning legs…me being a left below knee amputee couldn’t help but laugh just like the Jameson meme from Spider-Man and look at that guy and be like. “Your serious”

[@DocGTO]

That tire design was decided on so the enemy didn't know which way the vehicles were going.

[@trailrunnah8886]

I've heard that before, and it kind of makes sense until you think about how the tires behave when the vehicle turns. I think it's pretty easy to determine in which direction a vehicle is going when you see the different arcs the wheels traveled. Or, if a vehicle spins a tire in mud, it's very easy to determine which direction it was spinning.

[@Kevin24Seven]

As someone who's owned and wheeled both Jeeps and Humvees a bunch, I can tell you if you're measuring off-road ability, there really is no comparison. Lighter weight, greater articulation of solid axles, shorter wheelbase, far less width, better power to weight ratio, etc. really makes a huge difference on the trail! Mind you I'm talking Jeep CJs, YJs, TJs, JLs, etc. I've never owned or driven the original WW2 stuff but I bet its fun! That being said, nothing beats the Humvees cool factor and its like driving a mansion compared to even modern 4 door Jeeps. So much room for stuff! They also ride and handle better on the street (after you put better tires on them) and the turbo variants aren't half bad in the power department. If you love off roading go with a Jeep, if you want to do a little bit of everything, a Humvee isn't a bad choice. Just don't expect good gas mileage or being able to hold a conversation at highway speeds lol.

[@markspence3750]

I was in the Marine Corps in 1988, and then in the Persian Gulf War, and the Hummers were really good at carrying radio equipment, huge antennae, lots of boxes for electronics. You could go 60mph in the desert. BUT, BUT, you had a fleet of mechanics to fix them all the time. That makes a huge difference.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

The wee jeeps also required regular maintenance, but being so much smaller and lighter, they were far easier to work on than Humvees. I have yet to meet a grease monkey who enjoyed working on a humvee over a keep.

[@earlp3315]

I would love to see the old Jeep compete against the mahindra Roxor.

[@jeepinbanditrider]

For the time frame a 134ci mass produced 4 cylinder making 60hp was pretty impressive.

[@apodski]

Yeah, it was a good engine. Nicknamed the "go devil". It was actually about the only part fully designed by Willy's. In the jeep prototyping, a tiny auto company called Bantam actually produced by far the best chassis, body, and drivetrain prototype, amongst submissions from Willy's, Ford, and others. Most of this Bantam design was used with the addition of the exceptional Willy's engine. The bantam company however was tiny, and the government contracts to actually manufacture the jeeps were given to Willy's and Ford. Bantam got a contract to build jeep trailers instead, which were also quite good and innovative.

[@apodski]

The one issue with this engine is that it isn't a cross flow head so after slow moving or sitting hot, the carburetor starts to get hot nestled in the exhaust manifold. They'd run rich and carry on. But, they still did run, good enough for government work.

[@frankrault3190]

The fourtees: "We want something useful" The years zero: "We want something big"

[@wmden1]

I'm 72 years old, so I am partial to the Jeep. It will get you there and back, from most places, and probably cost less than 1/4 of what the Hummer would cost to acquire and keep running. You can buy hard cabs, canvas tops, heaters, etc. for the Jeeps.

[@colink4710]

I remember dragging downed trees on my grandpa property in his slat grill Willys. We would put it in 4 low and it was incredible what it could do. Thanks for bringing back the memories!

[@cottonhiker]

To all who have served, are serving, will serve, THANK YOU 🙏 🇺🇸💪🏼

[@TFLclassics]

Well said!

[@ffwest12]

I was stationed at a Reserve Center from 1986 to 88, the Marines had Humvees well before 89. They were putting them on platforms, and dropping them from C-130's it was amazing. The marines there hated them because of the drive trains on them.

[@Pnwvintagejeeps]

I love that the guy who worked on Humves was driving a Jeep 😂 Let’s go off-road some Willy’s Jeeps together

[@steverolfeca]

You asked: Suzuki LJ80 was imported into Canada in 1979. 800cc, 41hp 4-cylinder. At 1698lb curb weight, it considerably undercut the Willys MB weight-wise...

[@fourtyfivefudd]

Those narrow tires may not have the most amount of traction on dirt, but they are excellent at getting traction in snow and mud. The just cut through it instead of getting stuck.

[@sombra6153]

Considering how Europe had an ample amount of snow and mud during the time the Jeep made its bones, the tires were more than sufficient. Seems like the Pacific islands likely also had plenty of mud.

[@joezephyr]

One of the best videos TFL has ever done thank you.

[@TFLclassics]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@LukeEdward]

So the most reliable vehicle is the 75 year old Jeep. Got it. I do enjoy these “GQ & Gomer Pyle” shows.

[@kevinbarry71]

The jeep was restored. So it should work better; not to mention it has about three moving parts

[@flight2k5]

🙄 really?

[@carbonfiber492]

To be fair a gq would outlast both

[@flight2k5]

@@carbonfiber492 no it wouldn’t

[@carbonfiber492]

@@flight2k5you do know what a gq is yeh

[@jeffshriber6120]

The jeep was phenomenal for what it was when it was designed and built for what it was used for. Very easy maintenance, very reliable, light weight and easily transportable, easy and quick to manufacture and it moved people in all theaters in the war. Remember before the jeep the military was using horses. In fact I think if the Humvee was around in WW2 they would have chosen the jeep anyhow.

[@Injunfarian]

The HMMWV were designed to be support vehicles(behind the lines) with the same track width as the tanks... if there was a tree line the tanks could flatten them out making a trail and the HMMWVs could follow.. HMMWV has superior specs to the Jeeps.

[@myMotoring]

You should add a Hilux A.K.A Taliban's Humvee into the mix

[@ranig2848]

You can load the jeep on the back of the humvee and use it as a “rescue boat” 🤣

[@DPACGJ]

Slipping out of 2nd gear while engine braking occurred with each old Jeep I’d driven (‘49 and ‘53). As a kid my father had me push my feet against the gear shift during long downhills while in 2nd gear to keep it from popping out of gear.

[@Buzzrust1]

A bungie cord holds them forward great

[@VACUUM_HISTORIAN]

A friend of mine served in Iraq. He said that the Hummers were serviced and repaired only when they need it, and they were duct taped and rigged together.

[@hawkuser604]

The original JEEP was invented by Bantam in Butler, PA where I was born. There is a memorial to it in Diamond Park near the center of the town last that I checked. It would be cool if you could go see that. Willy's and Ford took the contract from the government, because Bantam could not produce enough. That is western PA not Eastern PA. Butler County, PA

[@tommygatch]

If you are interested, look into the 1940 Budd. It was a collaborative effort of the Budd and Ford. Ford was trying to hedge bets on the contract. You'll see stories about it being "discovered in the California desert" by Jeff Polidro. Yeah it was "discovered" in Riverside, CA after I took a few pictures of it and asked in some Jeep Forums if anyone could identify it as I had never seen anything exactly like it before. The Budd belonged to an older friend of mine and it was sitting on his property. He was looking to sell it and wanted to know what I thought it was worth. Long story short, I am proud that I had a part in saving an important piece of Jeep history.

[@orion8385]

Don't forget that jeep came EMP hardened straight from the factory with a condenser and points for ignition well before anyone knew an EMP was possible.

[@kevinbarry71]

That hummer has a nice belt squeak and what sounds like a failing power steering pump. Of course the jeep was restored but this one looks like it was just pulled out of a wrecking yard

[@maierrobert4]

It's not a Hummer if it doesn't have a failing power steering pump😂

[@Danzilly]

Humvee is fun but I'll take the willy's they can go on more tighter trails plus there easier to work on!

[@biggooddad]

When you hit the whoop section at three times the recommended speed, (because someone or some group of someones is shooting at you) the Jeep will keep rescuing yer arse provided you don't get tossed out while the Jeep is being bounced three or four feet in the air. Very durable little buggers, and if memory serves, you could get one (war surplus) in a crate for around $55.00 and have it shipped to your home back in the 70's

[@emmersonsimeao]

The Jeep is like "i'm here to take you from A to B, i don't really care if you want comfort or something"

[@diegosilang4823]

Nothing beats simplicity and reliability of the original Jeep.

[@Bob1934-l6d]

Before the CJ2 jeep. Simple to work on easy to repair. The HUMVEE is that mouse designed by committee and became an elephant. All most bought one till I found out they have grounding issues that prevent them from starting. Plus corrosion issues.

[@keithsuggs7935]

I understand the military guys asked for more power in the jeep pickup truck. In classic government style they spent gobs of money a whole new vehicle.

[@TerryCristopher]

The little Jeep has really good low gears, the humvee doesn’t have locking differentials which I thought was interesting

[@splooge52]

HMMWVs have Torsen differentials and can lock up with slight brake pressure while giving throttle.

[@boanerges5723]

Even with a much heavier M1151 you could have gotten through that course more easily. I've clocked a lot of hours off-road in those throughout Iraq. Eventually the Humvee becomes more of an extension of self. Lower your psi slightly in the tires. If they are taken care of well they tend to be incredibly reliable. They aren't about crawling, strap in and keep your speed up.

[@wh33lhousediecast]

"every good soldier has to do some exploration on foot"

[@DavidToner-pn5yk]

Was there really any doubt.... These jeeps are still around today for a reason... 👍

[@ectofix8447]

Realizing this video was far from your intended ending, you guys improvised it into an extremely interesting one. Well done!

[@marlattusmc]

I worked on HMMWV's for years and I HATE that truck.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Pretty much what I hear from every grease monkey, they say the same thing. On the other hand The little Willys are small and light, and stupidly simple.

[@robertpacheco3265]

Good video, 2 things on old jeeps. Correct, NDT tires look good, but for traction not good. Deflate a little will help. On no climb hill, turn around and go up in reverse, Jeep will say YES SIR!

[@joshm3484]

Gotta drive it like a 19-year-old praying for his EAS. Aim it in the general direction of the hill and give it the beans.

[@joniinnocenti431]

Hawkins and Co. Leather make the best leather goods around!!!

[@tah6746]

More Vehicles need to be built like this Jeep. Light Weight, Simple Reliability.

[@mikereinhardt4807]

Ok, both have their pluses and minuses. With reasonable maintenance the jeep will give you less issues over the long run. Less moving parts easy to repair in the field etc. As an example, I had a set of points fail me in the field and I was able to repair them with a flat tip screwdriver and two small rocks. Try repairing an electronic ignition in the field, no spare replacement parts and your sunk. The humv certainly has a greater potential for off roading capabilities. In the end it's personal preference as both are fun in the dirt for shure!...

[@Lupodimare1234]

Many years back, wenn I did my basic training (1985) in the Swiss army, we still had some Willys Jeep and CJ-5 and those were the only vehicules not only without doors and seatbelts, but also without a handle for the passenger to hold on to. But man, did we love them😊

[@Justin-ul9wo]

The jeep starting better isnt fair, its been restored, Guessing the Hummvees are fresh out of auction lol

[@VintageWanderer]

Hummers are almost to wide here in east with tight wood trails. I love my Cj2A and love my Volvo C303 even more! Cheers,

[@sailordave1000]

You should look into the accessories that were made available for those old Jeeps when they entered civilian use. Some pretty crazy but functional stuff

[@notreallyme425]

The military did not run these with diesel. The fuel they used was JP4 and later JP8, a fuel that was used for every vehicle (tanks, helicopters, HMMVs all used the same). A fuel for all but not the best diesel replacement. That could explain some of the problems as they age. The old timers would put a quart or 2 of motor oil in the fuel tank once a month or so. Not sure if that actually helped.

[@Injunfarian]

Exactly and to run JP8 fuel they had to burn hotter which is not ideal for the 6.5L TD engines... in civilian hands with proper cooling system the 6.5L is a pretty decent engine with proper operating temps.

[@Eli-pf5og]

You said it loved or hated based on use case scenario. I love the old Jeeps but the HMMV served me well. They did a lot of things well and some not some not so much!

[@jwdundon]

5.9 litre of underpower! Lol.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

A Hmmwv is fine; if you have a team of grease monkeys and a warehouse full of spare parts to keep them going.. A Willys will keep running with a redneck tinkerer and a box of spares in the field..

[@zbfng812]

That Jeep is totally cool. Both vehicles could have easily made it up that hill where BOTH got stuck. Just need drivers that KNOW how to drive. There is NO SUBSTITUTE for momentum. Remember that.

[@jwdundon]

My hummer wont start, my battery wont die! (Optimus?) Interstate? Wal-mart special?

[@eddiegiovanniello25]

I'm A 20 year Combat veteran and I have to say the M-151 and the M-151A2 Willys jeep is a freaking Billy goat and it is much more reliable than the hummer the hummer can do a 65 deg drop down a mountain, but will probably break down after

[@Salty_Balls]

My dad used to work at the Moraine Diesel Plant where they built the 6.2/6.5 for these and GM vehicles. He was there from the beginning to the end and loved that place. It was torn down when DMax came around and the military 6.5l engines were moved to a facility just south of town.They actually hired some of the GM guys to work there because they knew this motor so well. There's a handbuilt first-engine-off-the-line at Carillon Park in Dayton that dad helped them build as a display piece when the factory was opened.

[@boardtodeath46]

When I was 12 I got my first vehicle around the ranch. It was a 52 Willy’s jeep. Had the old push lever button next to the throttle to engage the starter. The steering gear was worn out so you had to keep up half a steering wheel turn. I was in the woods and couldn’t correct fast enough and hit a tree. The thing started climbing it and was almost parallel with the tree. Hanging on to the loose steering wheel for dear life I managed to get it in neutral and rolled back to the ground. Surprised I survived childhood

[@ottf24]

I drove one for over 20 years in the army... never did to not climb a hill or get stuck on the terrains.even had one for the division commander with Recaro seats in it ..🤣🤣

[@Blaze-hr2pk]

The Hummvee driven properly would have made that hill with no problem.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Air down the tires and the Humvee will go up that sand hill with ease 15:40

[@RAM_638.]

They still make humvees to this day which means they still make parts for these trucks

[@edward002gaming]

I love how they have a second humvee because they knew the first one would break easily. While the jeep didn't had any issue

[@cowelk]

The Jeeps are narrow and have a shorter wheelbase. They will go through a forest while the HMMVs need a wider road to make it. Both are so cool.

[@picklesontheroad]

LOL I was a fresh Private in the Army when the Hummer was first fielded in Germany. Sham General, took us all out to a training area that we called 6910 (very rough, sandy, was used an an airfield at one time) They gave us a block of instruction, then cut us loose saying you can't get one stuck, you can't flip one. LMAO Tell that to a Private in the Army and he'll prove you wrong! We had 2 of them stuck (belly down in the sand) and one of them on it's side within an hour. These were meant to replace the Gama Goats, JEEPS and the Chevy trucks we drove (CUCV). They never did replace the CUCV while I was still in. Given the choice, I'd take the JEEP. Much easier to keep running.

[@mikekosar6135]

I could have told you..Jeep..!! I knew a reserve mechanic who Told me about the humvies Problem’s

[@coopboulton]

When my grandpa was in the navy, when he was an XO on a ship. They stole a jeep from the army and painted with their ship paint so they wouldn’t know. It was small enough to pickup and drip off with the ships crane. Whenever they went into a port town by grandpa and the Captain would drive it around town.

[@justwideman]

Leave it to Case to stall an automatic diesel in the middle of nowhere.😅

[@BenWLC80]

The jeep is like an old 2 stroke Detroit. You need to slam your hand in the door and then drive it like it did it to you.

[@Boodieman72]

The HUMVEE does have a central tire inflation system so you can inflate and deflate the tires on the fly.

[@kens8903]

I need to see that old jeep go against the newer suzuki jimny.

[@garypoortvliet2478]

Also, the reason its so small and the windshield folds down, is so it could fit in a crate to be shipped overseas. They also wanted it to fit in a landing craft, so the us army had very specific size requirements.

[@Zach-sg5uu]

With the Jeep & the Humvee. You have to give it some speed and power to get up that hill! In a war zone they wouldn’t be playing around and creeping up the hill!!

[@colimex9182]

You guys should have put it on High Lock or Low Lock on the transfer case for the hill. I think it would have crawled up just fine! I couldn’t tell, but it looks like it was on high for the transfer case, so power is not evenly sent to the front and rear diffs. Also, if it isn’t out of fuel, you can get plastic or anything that you can hold up against the exhaust to seal it, and they typically start. I always did it in cold weather or when they hadn’t been turned on for a while. And yes, fuel gauges on HMMWVs suck!

[@KevinNiven]

My uncle was killed in WW2 when his Jeep flipped over on top of him.

[@archuleta1000]

Was it in the course of battle or play? Thankyou for his sacrifice and courage 🫡

[@adalsteinnloftsson1783]

My Suzuki Jimny is just a bít over 1000 Kg and with solid axles

[@awidesigns]

I have a M1165 ECV. Super reliable and would take it anywhere!

[@tonyburns5388]

Saying that the Jeep is 80 years old is not entirely accurate. It was fully restored therefore no longer 80 years old.

[@danwilliams5867]

We still had Jeeps when I was in. Never saw them stuck, they did tip over on the side now and again. We would push them back over, start em up and take off again

[@jamesbeemer7855]

There was one draw back about the Jeep . It doesn’t do well with heavy armament . It is primarily a transport vehicle . Not a shooting platform .

[@stingraycors_t6455]

the date of manufacturing for this HMMWV may say 2005, 6, or 7 but that was when it was probably refurbished and rebuilt at that time from. When these trucks get sent back to get rebuilt, they replace the original Data plates.

[@scottneal2738]

If anyone wants to see the driving of the old jeep from way before, the TV show MASH will show you how it was for riding around 😂

[@kylemaskell722]

So did you read the driving manual for the hmmwv? You sould there is a section about hills in that. As a former marine with a 3521 most you sould read before operating.

[@anthonyc1883]

Oh man, that old footage of Andre in a Humvee with water flooding in! I remember it well. Classic!!

[@briangodfrey7424]

The original jeeps were not intended to be like modern 4x4s. They were basically tractors with more than one seat. They were made to pull or carry light equipment, haul stretchers, and occasionally move officers or the luckier footsore soldiers around battlefields. Infantry in WW2 were called "foot soldiers". They walked. Infantry in modern times is more like big city commuters: they ride to and from their battles, so Humvees and Bradleys are perfect for them.

[@burnside8729]

the jeep has a little stiffer a suspention like that due to the original designator name of "1/4Ton, 4x4 truck" and designed not just as a scout but also gun tow, tractor, tug, aircraft mover and rarely at times though not design for it for the airforce.... it ended up sometimes being a bus for bomber crews having sometimes the entire crew riding on one jeep.

[@victorbotea4244]

Suzuki Samurai is also solid axle and 2000 lbs. And it a lot more of a car than this, with electrical and more creature confort features

[@0159ralph]

You guys need to mount a m2 .50 Cal in the back, and play Rat Patrol like the 1960s TV series.

[@robervin9107]

Absolutely phenomenal job brothers. ❤. 6:46 when kase and tommy enter the room everybody does that sound lol 😂 because they are the iconic duo 18:20 the facetiousness of this scene from you guys is hilarious I saw that look tommy and kase

[@communistcanada5384]

June 6, 1944 June 6, 2024

[@Shadow-jm7ob]

I have done everything in a hummer from desert to mudding to rock crawling. You just have to know how to drive em. Can't drive em like a regular off road vehicle. I've not had a problem with em. I love em. True, they could use some mod, but after time, what rig dont

[@dgdinwiddie]

The biggest issues with thr HMMWV is that they sit in motor pools so much and rot away. If you repair them and drive them they're very good.

[@markspence3750]

I love this video. I have not seen anyone do this before. It's so funny, and so cool.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Beautiful Jeep

[@Geonious]

1:38 Every Jeep in existence owes homage to the BRC-40. (Bantam Reconnaissance Car)

[@Doncan0823]

5:55 Suzuki SJ410 enters the chat…

[@DansAm76]

Waiting on the Model T Vrs Jeep off road throw down 😂

[@Chandramohankiran]

You should do a documentary on "Tumbleweed Tank" - namesake your ranch. It's history is from WW1, Texan inventor AJ Richardson. One surviving example is in Kubinka Museum in Germany

[@agentp6621]

Ok so having been in the Army for 9 years. I’ve had the privilege of driving a ragtop HMMVEE and the gauges bounced all over the place. So I guessed my speed. I guessed my fluids and fluid pressures. It drove where I needed it to go and started when I needed it to start. But I was driving on dry pavement. Then I drove an uparmored one in Iraq and it’s was a gutless turd. I was in a convoy with some Australian SF. They had uparmored Mitsubishi Pajeros. Drove around the open desert like it was nothing. I was getting yelled at for not keeping up. I informed them that I was flooring it and going about 20-30 mph. A slight mound nearly lost all momentum and we would have been stuck. Very fine powdery desert dust. I think the HMMVEE is over engineered for being as simplistic as it is. It has an aluminum skin, fiberglass hood and steel frame. With the aluminum and fiberglass it is still insanely heavy. The insanely wide design is a joke. I read that the biggest reason it was made so wide was because engineers in the 70’s couldn’t figure out how to stop rollovers. The Army was tired of having rollover accidents to deal with. On a good day you get 8 mpg on a stripped down ragtop. After learning about the postal truck from the 90’s and its replacement. I’m not entirely convinced that the government is making it too complicated. The specifications they put out are oddly specific. I like what the Aussies did. Take a civilian vehicle and militarize it. Too easy.