I Drove the Hummer, Rivian, and Lightning - Here’s The EV Truck I Would Buy!

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[@frankr111th]

I would go with the R1T. I think it's the most innovative. It's also the best off-road and I like the size. I don't need a full-size truck and I certainly don't need a 9000 lb truck.

[@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601]

Too bad rivian is going broke...spending a billion a month to keep going isn't a solid business plan. Hopefully they get bailed out.

[@stog9821]

@@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601 Startups usually show big losses in early years and so rely on investors to keep funding them. At this point Rivian may have enough going for it that if it can’t raise more investment a larger car maker may buy it. I’d guess in several years there will still be Rivians being made, but perhaps with a Japanese name badge.

[@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601]

@STOG rivian has a fisker feeling. I heard rumors that Apple might buy it....but nothing official from apple.

[@stog9821]

@@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601 Fair point. Going back some decades, DeLorean also went out of business even though I did see some on the road way back when.

[@bcluett1697]

@@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601 That's more likely than a Japan badge, Japanese companies already have e-tech and no interest in debt loading their companies. Apple could use Rivian for tax offsets potentially.

[@stephaniekelly3223]

Rivian all the way for families and as an adventure vehicle, been waiting for my R1S. Depends on your needs, the Lightning sounds like a good work truck. Love what Rivian stands for, we need to support new good homegrown companies.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Next year want to see the iD-Buzz versus Canoo will be the best multi purpose comparison on such full electric affordable vehicles...

[@quazaar]

I love my Lightning. I went with the Lariat due to wanting the larger battery. The one thing you didn't cover, is it's not just a vehicle. They have setup to be a mobile power station that can actually power things. That is what sold me to put in my reservation. I like the look of the R1T and would consider it. But if I have issues, I can go to my local Ford dealership or any in the nation to get some help. The Hummer is an expensive toy. Not to mention GM hasn't exactly been known for the most reliable electrical components over the years. You saw ford putting the lightning to the test all over. It gave me more confidence. I have towed with my lightning, I have a popup camper, and it pulls .3kwh from my range. But for any of these the charging network sucks ass! I kept my 2016 F150 because the charging network is so bad.

[@richpuller1348]

No one needs a mobile power station.

[@Cloud30000]

@richpuller1348 The multi-billion dollar portable generator industry disagrees.

[@quazaar]

@@richpuller1348 I have used it for my camper. End of the day boating, throw some food on an electric griddle. I carry a 120v air compressor and have air up other peoples tires and even my own when I got a nail. And I plan to be off grid in a few years and make use of it as backup power that can be taken to charger in town when needed refreshed. I am currently waiting on my solar panels to get here to charge it up since I currently don't drive it much.

[@davva360]

@@richpuller1348 Living in Hurricane territory I would disagree. It would be useful for power outages but there are other reasons I would not want one.

[@BrianLampright913]

Rivian! Actually plan to take delivery (finally) in January, although it cannot replace my Diesel Cummins for towing cross-country after driving one it is as close to perfection as it gets for everything else.

[@Rx100Vx]

R1T : awesome off-roader, but, at the same time great as a daily driver and sporty too when needed . Fits in normal garage. Constant improvement coz of over the air updates . Also Rivian is the only other manufacturer apart from Tesla that’s investing in their own fast charger network ( Rivian adventure network). It’s small now but has potential to grow .Also, as it’s direct sale to customers no dealer markup or haggling hassle . All round really good value .

[@uik99]

Over the ir updates are getting to much praise, think about it.. they have done over air updates with iPhones.. guess what happens…they go to shit so you can get a new one lol

[@Rx100Vx]

@@uik99 I think that’s an apples to Rivian’s comparison . Pun intended. On a serious note : Rivian added many new cool features via OTA example: camp more , a new soft sand drive mode etc . So far the current R1 owners seem to really dig the OTA and Rivian seems to be listening to them and implementing updates .

[@RealGaryGR]

I agree except that a "normal garage" has shrunk. I was waffling between R1T and R1S, the deciding factor ended up being that the R1S fits in my garage (barely), while the R1T was too long to fit. I don't think any truck fits in my garage. I got an R1T loaner while my R1S was at the service center overnight and I really liked it. My previous vehicle was a Tundra.

[@Rx100Vx]

@@RealGaryGR that’s true . I guess “normal” is a relative term for garages , especially when it comes to parking trucks in them . The R1S is an awesome vehicle and claimed to be a better off-roader too as it’s a shorter wheelbase and better angles of departure etc .

[@Cloud30000]

@uik99 I have old iPhones that still work fantastic with the apps made for it; over the air updates have only helped. The problem is the new features and apps, which are made to take advantage of better hardware, just don’t run well. As long as you stick with existing features and don’t expect to get full self driving over the air, the updates offer more reliability for existing things and improve the functionality of those things through minor tweaks; for example, they can easily add extra information to the dashboard over the air based on customer feedback.

[@noahyzf1000]

Only 1 truck has the potential ability to solve our nation's power grid deficiencies. So, for me, the Lightnings vehicle to load capabilities make it the easy choice. The Rivian and Hummer are just trucks, the lighting is $80k of whole house battery backup with a truck thrown in for free!

[@cjbierle]

Own a F150 lightning lariat SR. Great size for a family of 4. Will be used as a daily driver and for doing truck things around the metro but have an older ICE for road trips when they occur. I like that it's electric in stealth mode--you recognize it if you know what you're looking for, but otherwise it doesn't scream EV. Great vehicle to drive, and I like that it came from an established manufacturer.

[@danielm9315]

I have kids so I went with the Lightning for it's huge interior, superior frunk, and Pro Power Onboard. I also prefer the look of the F150 over the Rivian. I priced out the price of new ICE Power boost equally equipped and the price was similar, hopefully as the price of vehicles comes down over the next couple of years so will the price of EV trucks.

[@uik99]

At least you realized the rivian is fugly lol

[@irfanhusein1445]

Lightening is the most comfortable and the quietest and with the most usable space, so it would be my choice.

[@jrmaxwell4504]

Good review. I agree the Hummer is just a big, expensive toy. If you want it and can afford it, great. If you need a legit work truck, I think the Lightning is the best choice. If you want a lifestyle, mid-size, off-road capable truck, then Rivian all the way. I think they're both good choices, but with very different strengths.

[@Cloud30000]

It’s ironic that the guy driving a traditional N/A V6 is calling the the guy driving a hybrid electric turbo truck with a 7.2kW generator output afraid of technology.

[@CipoCat6]

Rivian for me due to its size, and my lifestyle is their target market (surf, camp, bike, snowboard, DIY, helping with SO's window restoration business, etc). I would be happy if Ford had a smaller option, like an all-electric Maverick.

[@ronvanr5359]

I like the size of the Rivian, and the dealer network of the Ford. I'd pick the Rivian, the size would work better for my suburban lifestyle.

[@whidbeyhiker4364]

Rivian for me, I already own it. The ford was impressive. Dream rig though is the electric Wrangler (yeah, I know, not a truck).

[@dgw4049]

The F150LTG is sure to be easier to maintain in the long term. The hummer is so complex and has so many points of failures. No one knows how or where to fix a rivian. F150LTG is relatively simplistic and will have plentiful parts and trained service centers. I want to be able to fix my vehicle when it inevitably breaks. They will also make millions of F150LTG, so used parts will also be accessible.

[@sotek2345]

I went with the Lightning because I needed the larger bed for the things I haul regularly, but the Rivian is a very nice package. Very eager to see where both of these companies go for the next generation and may change my answer at that point. No interest in the Hummer.

[@atodaso1668]

rivian for sure. I love the canoo though, will see how the final product looks like

[@mikeyveloster7615]

First EV Truck delivery dates were Rivian Sept 2021, Hummer EV Dec 2021, F-150 Lightning May 2022

[@trwsandford]

With all the money, I’m still keeping my 20 year old F-150. Maybe in another 20 years, I’ll consider it.

[@billysturgeon8616]

I have been saying for 3 years that the reason the Cyber Truck in not in production is that TFL released a video on 8/12/2019. In this video, they (TFL) (Y'ALL) pulled a trailer on the Ike's Gauntlet and the range results were very bad. I have been defending Tesla saying that the Cyber Truck keeps getting delayed because they (Tesla) will not produce it until it will get a much better range. Now that Tesla have delivered the first Semi and it is getting the reported range, I expect the Cyber Truck to do the same. So when people ask you if your channel is important, you can tell them that Billy in South Carolina Thinks so. Thank you, Gentlemen and keep up the good work.

[@billysturgeon8616]

I left out that the vehicle used for this test was the Tesla Model X.

[@briankeithwood]

2nd thought... I would LOVE to see ford take the lightning approach with the Ranger and even the maverick.

[@richardnedbalek1968]

👍Two guys who KNOW trucks! FORD for me. Can’t argue with their truck-market dominance.

[@aaronbritt2025]

I'd take the Rivian for ONE reason... No dealership to deal with. The dealership sales model is antiquated and needs to die.

[@WadeSmart]

If I were going this route - the Ford would be my choice. My simple reason - I can run over to my local dealer and have it looked at. But the ext reason is, Im comfortable with a F150 so I dont have to really figure anything else out. I can just go and get stuff done.

[@mmillerao]

I’m all about the Rivian. This may be a dumb question but would there be any issue with any of these launching my boat in salt water? I’m sure the water is no issue but wondering about how all that tech will react to the salt.

[@AHungryHunky]

If I had to pick one, and money wasn't a problem it would be the Rivian. It's not the biggest and it doesn't tow, but none of the really tow well and to me vehicle size has diminishing returns as there is a certain point where extra shoulder room and extra cargo room just translates to hauling empty air and a heavier vehicle. The R1T on paper has all I need in terms of space and utility in a smaller package than the other two, which makes it more manageable in both city/town and back country roads. Realistically however the Lighting is much closer to my financial reach than either of the other two, and offers incredible utility that I wouldn't be disappointed with. The Hummer while incredibly awesome, comes at to steep of a price, both in dollars and in the fact it's large battery takes longer to charge, and it's incredible weight would be more wear and tear on just about anything it contacted, including my theoretical driveway and garage which more than likely wouldn't be built to handle 9000 lbs.

[@drmcallis]

So, "the truck we would buy with our own money if money was not a consideration." Gotcha. Yes, the Hummer charges 30% or so faster than anything out there. With a battery more than twice as big. That's a net loss on time to charge. I won't mention the efficiency bringing the range added per time charged way below basically anything. Speed to charge should be miles added per time. On that measure, it's kinda pathetic.

[@brianschlichter5325]

If you live in a cold winter climate - the considerations should include the heat pump & 800v structure. Hummer the only one that doesn’t lose half of it’s range in the winter weather. Rivian talking about upgrading standard feature to heat pump, and 800v, but not yet

[@billcarpenter3880]

Neighbour has a Rivian, tried it out for a day, had a Lightning out and have owned plenty of f150’s, ended up with a Hummer 2X. I haul heavy, relatively small skid sized loads. The Hummer is kind of wacky, but it’s fun, it fits in my garage, and I smile every day driving it. Lease will be up in 2 years, technology will have improved, but I will bet my next truck won’t make me grin every time I walk up to it.

[@scottmason2094]

I will wait for the cyber truck!

[@molonlabe8979]

Hopefully the lightning will eventually get the 6.5 foot bed, if that happens then I am trading in my truck for it.

[@ultratodd]

If I were to buy one it would be the F150 Lightening Lariat. When I was young, I probably would have picked the Rivian. I love the outdoors and I loved camping and fishing. The Rivian would have been a dream come true. In my 70's, my idea of camping is sleeping in a regular bed in a heated space. The Lightening allows me to tow a small travel trailer to get to a comfortable campsite. I prefer some of the extras that aren't available on the Pro including using the battery as backup power for my house. I like my heated seats and my local Ford dealer (not the closest but far better than the competition). I don't want a toy. That leaves out the Hummer. And the Rivian has no reliable service history. That leaves the Lightening.

[@stevenalexander5603]

I would pick the lighting

[@skywalker2852]

Of these 3, I would likely pick the Lightning - but it's interesting in a cost-no-object scenario, Andre picks the Lighting Pro because it's cheaper and the tonneau cover from his hybrid F150 can be reused. 😆 I would like to see the Silverado with it's midgate before I buy though.

[@migueljardim8177]

R1T without question, pretty much has better specs than the other 2 and way more capable offroad than either.

[@DoctorPainKilla]

R1T is my choice too. I also happen to be driving one. Not a super fan of the front but function of the lights cannot be questioned. The lights are best stock I have ever had. I wanted a $45000 configured pro version but didn’t work out. Now likely $55K. Still waiting but happy with my 75K rivian much more than an equally configured Lightning. If the rivian was full price still would have got it over the lightning. I am so tired of Ford service. Rivian has been great. They even came to my friend to do a warranty issue 6 hours from service center

[@LarryRichelli]

This tug of war between trucks was done and it is something that none of you guys would do so we loved that. Everybody wanted this but you reviewers would never do it!

[@michaelsomero]

I own a R1T now and love it (but that is based on getting the early reservation pricing and the tax credit). I also reserved a Lightning the day of launch with a hope of test driving both trucks before making a buying decision. The Rivian buying process was smooth and easy for me. Ford has had poor and confusing communication throughout the process - along with a attempt to get me to pay market premium. Ford allowed me to convert my reservation for a Lightning Lariat to an order in October 2022, but gives no indication on an expected production or delivery timeframe.

[@steinwaymodelb]

Of the three, the Rivian interests me most. Of yet-to-come vehicles, I'm very interested in Ram's coming 'Revolution', rumored to have a PHEV or range extender hybrid variant. Maverick PHEV would also be quite interesting.

[@Jay-me7gw]

I agree. The first EV truck I would get into would have to have a range extender. The

[@tega85]

I need a truck with a mid gate. I currently have a Model 3 that I take “overland” camping. I sleep inside the cabin on a air mattress and have a cargo box on the racks for all my camping gear. Car camping with HVAC on all night is a game changer. I have pre-ordered Chevy Evalanche and Tesla Cybertruck. I expect to choose between one of those two unless another truck with mid gate appears on market.

[@smarticus6384]

I would choose the Rivian, and it's not even close. Of course, I no longer need a large bed and do not tow long distances. The R1T gives me the capabilities I would ever need, I.e., local-only towing and hauling and off-road capability, and if I want to shred it on a canyon road, the super capable road handling with its McLaren-inspired suspension and its 835HP torque vectoring AWD is enough to make me smile so hard that it would hurt. The R1T is kind of a best-in-class all a-rounder for me. Otherwise, the Lightning would be fine. No way would I ever buy the Hummer.

[@wkwrpg4392]

I too like the Rivian, so I don't like that I'm still waiting for availability. Regardless of which vehicle we choose, are utilities ready for the demand on the grid?

[@sworks7124]

Rivian. People keep saying the Rivian bed is small but you have to add the gear tunnel as part of the bed so it is almost 5.6 foot bed because the gear tunnel is a lockable storage box in most trucks with lock boxes in their beds.

[@rlaracue]

Rivian for now. Ram looks interesting.

[@kenmcclow8963]

My Lightning is being built in January. I originally wanted the Lariat ER, but by the time they got around to letting me order after several price hikes and the cuts to the tax credit, I chose the XLT SR. Since it will be about 700 pounds less than the Lariat ER, I hope for a little extra efficiency. I have reservations for the Silverado and Cybertruck whenever they may appear I can evaluate my choices. I liked the Rivian but the bed was a little too small for my purpose, so for them I would have gone with the R1S if they offered a two wheel motor version to bring down the price since I was put off by parting with $1000 to be in line for x number of years to get the initial pricing.

[@itgoesfast2722]

Before I even watch the video I would get the F150. I would never buy another GM product especially an electric vehicle after my volt experience with reliability and dealer support. The Rivian is cool but I would worry about support and maintenance. This leaves the F150 which I feel would be the safest choice and it can power my house in an emergency which I think is awesome. Just my two cents.

[@markallen4514]

I think it’s worth noting that IF Tesla is actually able to get to market next year with a $40k truck that also carries a $7,500 tax credit the whole industry will be disrupted. Hard to compete with the cheapest price and best charging network.

[@lewiswatchorn7239]

I agree with Nathan on the surface, the R1T is nice due to everyday living with the size and capabilities but Rivian being a new company that seems to have trouble producing units, I’d be concerned about them being around in 5-10 years. So, out of the 3, I’d go with the Lightning.

[@christopherjustice4233]

Tesla had trouble producing units too. Do you remember the tents they set up at the Fremont Factory to boost production? And look at them now. I think the quality of Rivian's product will make them very successful.

[@jrdecker5526]

As an F-150 Lariat POWERBOOST owner, I trend toward the Lightning. That being said, I love that I can add 600-700 miles of range to my truck in about 8 minutes. I also have the capability of powering my home with the Pro Power on board. (I used this feature on 2 occasions). I also will avoid any electric vehicle until the charging infrastructure in this country improves dramatically.

[@spacebound1969]

Does that change with Tesla allowing other vehicles on their network? Then plus the EV stations is very comprehensive, and remember you'll usually be charging at home rather than out and about.

[@henrycruz45cal]

Powering your house??? More like the lights and a fridge. There's no replacing a generator with a 50 amp outlet so you can "power the whole house"

[@ronaldking1054]

Technically, there is the option of conversion, which your channel has done. I know I'd try to model the Lightning if I were to convert, however. Since the frame is similar to F-150's, it might be easier to use things like the Eluminator on the conversion. Ford also attached a large equipment package to the extended range battery on their current Lightning models. The parts could potentially be offset in cost as well with the F-150 gasoline parts. The rear suspension could be an issue. The only real difference in frames is that the front grid is removed to make the frunk something more easily accessible, which means it is very possible to put the battery pack into the frame. There are also potentially tusks added to ensure that vehicles are pushed to the side in collisions.

[@stog9821]

If the choice is of these three, then the Rivian. It's smaller and that suits me more, though I wish the bed were a bit longer. I look forward to the Sierra, but then weirdly, I thought the Avalanche, though unattractive, had its merits.

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

A plug-in hybrid pick-up would make way more sense to me. I tow a camper and the idea of going only maybe 150 miles (if I’m lucky) and then having to charge for 30-40 min or more (and maybe unhitch to get to the charger), to keep going to my goal of, say, 350-500 miles, just doesn’t work. All three are pretty cool, but I’d have one in my garage now if there was a PHEV.

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

@Jebus Hypocristos - that would be a great option. Not sure how easy it will be to charge both a TV and a camper, but the idea is certainly intriguing. Seems like it would also allow enough battery to boondock and still have AC - which would be nice!

[@ALMX5DP]

@@anthonymrskipt9252 batteries are pretty heavy, not to mention the issue of getting the power from the trailer to the vehicle while it's in motion. There are a couple of range extender patent filings by both Ford and Ram right now. The new Ram may debut in January with it (or at least allude to an RX system). That may alleviate any concerns for range while on a long haul or roadtrip.

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

@@ALMX5DP - I’m all for it. I had a Tesla and the batteries were not the reason I no longer have it (it was the so-called FSD). Have one PHEV now that’s my wife’s daily and our long distance car when we don’t need the truck and am looking at a BEV for my daily. It is very much the future.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@anthonymrskipt9252 Yeah I'm starting to think about what my next vehicle might be as well. For us i think pickups are a few years away to be viable, but would like to get a BEV commuter that does the bulk of our mileage. I'm hoping for innovative news in regards to the range extenders though, that could really change things as even currently they are getting close to being workable for our weekend trips.

[@mclroy]

If i have the choice i'll pick the Rivian. For the range, the torque, the technology of the motors. It's almost a full size truck with the ability of a mid-size one.

[@michaelspencer5290]

Rivian R1T all the way. 835 hp 0-60 in 3 seconds 15 inches of ground clearance Tows 11k 1600 payload “don’t quote me on that” A motor on all wheels Full skid plates underneath 34s factory Gear tunnel storage is icing on the cake.

[@stevelynch5843]

After watching all of the video's you guys have done on EV trucks you have cemented in my head never to own one in my life time, the last thing I need is range anxiety driving in the mountains or waiting at a charging station possible for hours depending on how busy it is when I'm on a trip and having to stop what every 100-120 miles?? (160kms) (I don't think the Rivian with a trailer made it that far) I know how long it takes and how many fuel stops it takes for me to go from Sylvan Lake Alberta to Vancouver Island BC and adding a day or 2 at a hotel or staying the trailer cause I can't make it there in what is already 14hr drive and that's without road construction (with the Rivian that's 8.3-9.3 stops to charge) that's possible 2 to 4 days of my holidays gone charging a truck, so you can keep your EV and I'll keep my gas pot thanks

[@WW-wf8tu]

Interesting argument for the Lightening you threw out there Andre. And while specifically that was not in my mind, the fact that there are dealers all over the place that could/can service the Lightning is a pretty big practical consideration. However, I would pick the Rivian out of the 2. (GMC just does not count) There are a lot of reasons the Rivian appeals to me, but I think Nathan had it nailed. It is just more versatile over all. That being said, the Bollinger had my complete attention when you reviewed it. And while the price is absurd, it did very much have a lot of things that appealed to me. Even tho it is not really a primary driver type comfy vehicle(s). I was going to ask you what ever happened with them, but did my own research and learned exactly what you revealed here.(over 2 months ago) Now, all that being said, don't have a need for any of it. lol In my youth it was far more important. But they did not have these choices back then.

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

9:42 How many production trucks (or production vehicles in general) had over 800 horsepower and 700+ lb-ft of torque 20 years ago?

[@mannyc2604]

If I had the money and had to choose out of those 3 it would be the Rivian 👍🏼 I agree with Nathan 👏🏼

[@nathanstenabaugh1290]

Other Nathan is right Rivian gets my vote. Lightning is close but not quite there and the only versions available in Canada are damn near the price of the other two anyway.

[@tommyers7870]

Love your guys’ content. Been watching for years! Have you ever looked at SEA Electric? They have, what I believe, is just electric conversions primarily for semi trucks. They take the Hino trucks and convert them to electric. It’s pretty neat tech! I wonder if their technology is comparable to any of the EV’s you all have reviewed? Cool stuff, either way. Also - I’d be down with either, but I REALLY like the Rivian! Cheers!

[@ryanscoggins5810]

If things go according to plan, I will be ordering a Lightning Pro next year. Pro because it better loaded than my ‘07 XLT Supercrew. Everything I needed, and nothing I don’t (though I prefer clothe seats). My question to you guys is, has the EV tech become reliable enough to be the sole means of transportation? Or should EV’s go to multi-vehicle homes? I bought my ‘07 new (first new vehicle!), and have put 97,000 on it since. Obviously, I don’t have far to drive. So an EV should be perfect for daily driving. But occasionally I want to travel to visit friends and family, well out of range of the Pro. I’d like to see you guys to take multiple inexperienced EV driver, hand them the keys to one, and tell them to go to destination at least 500 miles away. No instructions on how to plan their stops, or find charging station’s. Because this is how most of us will be entering the EV market. We’ll learn as they learn. I think it’ll help ease the nervousness of a lot of people who want their next purchase to be an EV.

[@aaronandhayleyskinner3249]

Good idea for a series

[@PhillProbst]

I'm with Nathan on this one ... same reasons. Of those 3 options the Rivian is the best fit for my typical suburban homeowner situation. However ... it's too expensive ... I'm waiting for a Maverick Lightning.

[@jlv3x]

Andre is a Ford guy so his pick of the Lightning is not surprising. Living in a city I would go for the RIVIAN hands down. Rivian RT1 is right in-between a full size and a mid-size truck in size which is better for city parking. While it gives you the same power as a full sized truck.

[@danoberste8146]

I'm scared of Lordstown's unsprung motors. 😬The tight tolerances between the rotor and the stator would seem to benefit greatly from as much isolation from road/trail bumps as can be achieved.

[@3crowsfarm16]

F150 pro would fit my farm workload perfectly. R1T is the one I like the most, but service availability in my area is a big issue. Also, i can't fit skiis in R1T bed and thats an issue

[@DeuceFrmEC]

The gear tunnel I believe can easily fit your skis

[@3crowsfarm16]

@@DeuceFrmEC most of my skiis are 180cm long, thats almost 6ft I don't think the gear tunnel is that long. You'll notice they often show it with a snowboard, which are rarely more than 150cm The bed is built for people who don't want a truck.... Also know as 'Tacoma owners'

[@DeuceFrmEC]

@@3crowsfarm16 190.5cm long and there’s going to be a longer bed later on.

[@3crowsfarm16]

@@DeuceFrmEC the bed is 138cm long and 130cm wide, wouldn't fit on diagonal. Where didu get 190cm from? Does not count if tailgate is open, looking for secure storage. Lightning bed fits skiis on an angle, passable but awkward. Cybertruck has the right sized bed, 195cm w tailgate up.

[@DeuceFrmEC]

@@3crowsfarm16 the gear tunnel that I mentioned above to store your skies since the bed wasn’t long enough.

[@manuelias86]

For my money, R1T

[@damiangutierrez9103]

I would choose the Lightning pro or XLT. I like the size of the Rivian but not some of the weird features it has.

[@jorgemartinez523]

Lightning, though it would be nice if Ford electrified the Maverick. Lightning is just an Electric F150 and that makes it so much less worry free and made by a tried and true vehicle manufacturer which earns trust points instantly. It is also noteworthy that F150 pro is a truck that does truck thing for guys who need/like trucks and at an affordable price. No one else has done that.

[@toddanderson8277]

I’m not into EV’s at all but I am a GM guy specifically a GMC guy and that GMC Sierra is very nice and seems to be pretty capable along with towing and payload capacity. Range and charging needs to come a long way especially when your talking charging availability when camping and driving and not having to stop for a few hours on each drive to fill up. $$$.$$$.$$ isn’t an option like you both mentioned of course because for a common blue collar guy most are out of the equation. Good video guy’s.👍

[@JahyMoonwalker]

I'm looking forward to an electric wrangler, bronco, or FJ cruiser type vehicle. Any dedicated off-road, full electric would be great. Even better if it is a two-door, which is sadly less likely I imagine. If I *have* to pick a traditional truck I'll say a Gladiator.

[@CliffWarren]

Thank you, Nathan, for making the point that a tug of war is useless information! Nathan, as usual, is 100% correct.

[@kenyattaclay7666]

I’m not really a truck guy but I find these EV truck interesting & if there is going to be any movement beyond a niche market then the Silverado is the most important one coming to market. Chevy & Ford are direct competitors so just like Apple & Samsung or Coke & Pepsi, Ford & GM will be the true drivers of this segment and the one that will be more realistically attainable.

[@erichill5208]

Any testing information as to the battery performance during low winter temperatures and high summer temperatures? With these 3 EVs

[@steveb6287]

I would go with the lightning, I love my Ram 1500 and excited to see what their EV truck brings to the party.

[@joemears565]

Rivian, hands down

[@jamesoldman3021]

For a personal vehicle I would go with the Rivian. For a work vehicle would consider the first one that offers a crew cab with an 8 foot box.

[@BanoClan]

I pre ordered the hummer and absolutely love it !! Can’t wait

[@jasonliang8876]

In tesla's defence, they really didn't have the capacity and resource to build the cyber truck. With the previous technology, it was impossible to profit from that truck. Ford, Rivian, GM loss money from selling their Ev truck, that's why they can't scale up their production.

[@johnburkett521]

A while back I got a little hyped on the Alpha Motor Company Wolf trucks, but the info on these is super slow to come out. Have you guys ever. Tried to visit them?

[@korswe]

News flash. Cybertruck exists. You guys need a new line of work.

[@muaythaiforever7893]

Thanks for the video! I am currently trying to decide on which truck I want. I have a reservation for the cyber truck, but who knows if it will really come out or how large it will be! I’m leaning more towards the Rivian because of how large the lightning is in comparison. My wife already has a large suv and having 2 large vehicles is more overkill, IMO. I wanted the rivian, and/or the cyber truck, for the tonneau cover…to secure my son’s baseball equipment. But since Rivian is no longer releasing the truck with the cover, I’m not sure if the added weight of the original cover placed on the lightning will add more weight and affect the range. But size is king and I’m leaning ever close to the Rivian

[@TopherJohnsoncw]

I like the R1T but there is no local support when there is a problem. The HUMMER is truly impressive but out of reach with a ridiculous price tag. The lighting is my pick. Local support and several level of options to maybe help with pricing. Dealerships will most likely spoil the price at all levels.

[@jeffschimke3297]

I saw my first rivian in dyer Indiana last week

[@jedhart1259]

Have had all three delivered All very nice in own regards. The Hummer EV is the best ride and most fun to drive. Need some help on OS and “chime” *if you know you know 😂 AND… really GMC.. no phone as key.. or card key? Ford did a great job… Frunk is #1. Size is great.. BUT… battery at highway speeds is terrible. (Yes we had extended range) Rivian … sexy…great interior.. but is third on our list over all. Small for a “truck”. And mechanical/build issues I would be careful. Great video men. Keep them coming!

[@gmv0553]

None of them! I would prefer to wait for the GMC!

[@Bluelightning23]

What about Canoo? What's going on with them?

[@binjones]

I am in line with the F150. The Rivian is cool, but for me and my needs the back seat us a little Tight and the truck overall cannot carry what I need it just doesn’t work. I’m hoping the 150 will meet my needs or. Will be forced to go with the R1S.

[@dwcheshire]

I am for the Rivian, but would take a Lightning because I would be using it as a work vehicle. I look forward to having more choices, I saw a video of the Amazon delivery truck in use and really liked what I saw.

[@jeffs2809]

Lightning would be my #1 choice followed by the r1t.

[@mikeyellen362]

Which 1 can charge on a telsa charger?

[@DeuceFrmEC]

Due to the amount of Ford dealerships around me, I lean towards the Ford but I would get the rivian if that wasn’t an issue. I have the capability to charge at home and around my area plus the range is great.

[@craig8638]

Is the Hummer really a truck? Rivian if you don’t mind the 4 1/2 foot bed. I bought the Lightning because it fits my needs better than the Rivian. Having so many accessories for the Ford on day one is a big advantage.

[@yak4life]

Current waiting on my Rivian reservation but I would really love a all electric Wrangler down the line.

[@pstoneking3418]

Which of the three to buy depends on price, what you will be the vehicle's main use, range, comfort of the ride, available storage areas, history of manufacturer service, & probably some I've not thought of. So with all that, I test drove all three of these vehicles and I felt the lightning had the most comfortable ride. Range is not an issue for me because I'll never take it on a trip. I don't drive off road. I do some hauling, but anything really heavy I'll tow my trailer. And I want as much on board inverter power available. Ford has had the best selling truck for nearly 40 years . So my choice is the Ford lightning wins for me in all my requirements. I'd probably be happy with the pro but with 9.6 kw power, SR battery, spray in bed liner. For these 3 reasons: It's a ford, Best ride, most on board power.

[@Glenn-the-Gray]

Hoping the Chevy Silverado doesn't price me out like the Lightning did. Dropped my reservation for that truck. Put in a reservation for the Silverado. We'll see how the prices for that works out.

[@Random-bm7ho]

Silverado is like 107K...

[@Glenn-the-Gray]

@@Random-bm7ho Can you pass along where I can find pricing?

[@Random-bm7ho]

@Glenn Grosz The one you could pre order earlier in the year was 107k, they have a estimated msrp range now from 39k and up. All you can do is pre-order. Kinda defeats the purpose of owning a truck if you can't do truck things. But whatever, not my $$$

[@SheaBeckmann]

I have a preorder for a Rivian R1S. If I were picking a truck I would also pick the R1T

[@pstoneking3418]

GM beat them all with its first all electric car in 1996. EV1 , nobody really knows why it was pulled back and destroyed in 1999. Leased only , many people leasing like Mel Gibson hated giving their EV1's back when recalled.

[@JohnC-hj3dr]

If I could buy one it would be a f150 lightning pro but if ask to get the carpet on the pro model. And I'll be ok I don't need all that tech to be cool I'd stick with the base model and be ok

[@RedHawkish]

I new it - Andre loves Ford F150s. I like the Rivian best. If it ever comes out, Alpha Motor Inc Adventure Series Rex (and would sell my Colorado ZR2).

[@craig8638]

If possible I would go with the company that only produces EVs. Companies like Ford still seem to be treating EVs like a niche product.