2023 Hyundai Santa Fe Calligraphy Review: Is the Luxury Trim Really Worth the Cash?

[@mumenrider862]

My wife is picker hers up as we speak. She drove a ton of cars (we're usually Honda/Toyota people) but when she drove the Santa Fe she fell in love. Happy Anniversary! Here's to another 24 years (and more!)

[@bradleyscarreviews]

This car is amazing. We owned a 2023 Santa Fe Calligraphy, has all the bells and whistles, great power, good handling, good comfort, but, one night, a drunk driver hit us head on at 66MPH, I am lucky to be alive. I walked away with just a little bruise and a sprained wrist. We are looking to upgrade to a 2024 X5, but will recommend this Santa Fe to anyone.

[@dms3696]

Congrats on the big upgrade you made!😃

[@bradleyscarreviews]

@@dms3696 thanks! We are enjoying it.

[@itsmeg4575]

Upgrading with the insurance money i see ;)

[@danielgabriel5539]

Omg damn glad you're ok 😲

[@bradleyscarreviews]

@@itsmeg4575 got that right ;)

[@k.p.p.192]

I have this exact model. Year, color, everything. It’s awesome. I’ve had it for 6 months now. The 2.5T is quicker than I was expecting. One thing I not see eye to eye with Nathan is his criticism of the acceleration off the line. You’re not drag racing a Santa Fe. It’s not a corvette or dodge demon. I’ll take the calligraphy Santa Fe over a base line GV60 in a second.

[@paul3180]

I just got a 2023 SF Calligraphy and have found the off the line acceleration to be quite good. Like you said it's not a corvette or a demon.

[@jeffetherington5539]

We’ve driven our 2022 FWD Santa Fe Calligraphy for nearly 20k miles and have had zero issues. The bells and whistles included in this trim make this car feel like it’s in a different class. The power is impressive, especially in sport mode. I have to be careful not to chirp the tires when in sport. My wife prefers to drive it in the comfort mode. We run snow tires during the winter months here in Utah and we have no regrets about skipping AWD, plus we have a spare tire as it’s the FWD model. The stereo is great, the panoramic roof is awesome, and the cargo space behind the 2nd row is huge. The adaptive cruise works way better than the adaptive cruise in our Nissan and the Santa Fe’s interior is impressively quiet; I believe the calligraphy model comes with upgraded glass in the front windows for better sound insulation. The only thing I don’t care for are the lower profile 20” tires, but for a few months out of the year I enjoy the comfort of the winter tires on a set of inexpensive aftermarket 17’s; though my wife much prefers the looks of the OEM 20’s. This is our first Hyundai, we are usually Honda or Nissan buyers. We may look at trading for the ‘25 Santa Fe after they work out the inevitable first model year bugs.

[@jimharrison3552]

You forgot to mention the excellent heads up display that only comes on the Calligraphy.

[@daveroush4896]

I own a 2019 Santa Fe, I love it. Great quality. Some differences now. I like my shift lever versus the push button. Also have the 8speed transmission with a 2.0Turbo. I also pull a 3500 lb trailer with it.

[@RobertBandi-vi7uu]

I have a 23 calligraphy in calypso red with beige interior. The drivetrain has been flawless. Fast, quiet, roomy and comfortable. The Palisade gets all the press and the dealer markup. We didn’t need the 3rd row and got a nice discount off of msrp! The Genesis is nice but a lot more $ comparably equipped.

[@hellolove1576]

Yes exactly the Genesis gv70 at least six grimoire and not as well-equipped and if you're going to go that far get the gv80 I'll stick with the Santa Fe

[@DM-fv7hw]

We have a Limited and we came from a 2011 Silverado CC. I can't stand not having a spare so I put Falken Wildpeak A/Ts on it and so far so good. The features of these Hyundais can't be beaten. With two adults, two dogs, and a roof rack we can fit a lot of camping gear in there. The Falkens are great in Colorado's winters.

[@damilolaakanni]

This looks much better than the Tucson and Kia Sportage, IMO. If I were in the market for one of those I'd pick this one.

[@palebeachbum]

The Sante Fe is one size-class larger than the Tucson and Sportage. They're not direct competitors.

[@NileshR12]

Yeah I like the Tucson but this beats it by a lot in design

[@hamerplayer1229]

I love my 22 Calligraphy Stormy Sea Blue with the tan leather and man does it pop! Traded a 2019 Santa Fe Ultimate 2.0 and got a great trade in price and paid MSRP for the Calligraphy. Absolutely no regrets. I love it. The passing power is ridiculous and the tech works great. Heat and AC are powerful. Only thing missing is the wireless Android Auto/ Car Play. I simply run a very short cable from the charger and turn my phone backwards in the wireless charger so no wire hanging. Would I buy it again?? In a second. Also Hyundai did two recalls on my DCT and the second one was a reprogram / bleeding of the system and the jerky 2nd to 1st shift is gone. I came from driving a standard and drive the DCT like a standard and it really just rips off the shifts.

[@NileshR12]

Omg that blue with the tan is my ideal color combination!

[@bradleymeyer9775]

This is really nice. And I prefer this generation of Santa Fe over all the other generations.

[@bradleymeyer9775]

The best looking Santa Fe out of all years and generations of the Santa Fe.

[@wiseguy3492]

Finally a video driving and not at a desk looking at a picture. I salute you sir.

[@Doncan0823]

I had a 2022 Hyundai Kona Limited Turbo AWD with the 7 speed DCT and got so tired of the DCT hesitation and jerkiness that traded it for another vehicle. Loved everything else. I would’ve definitely kept it if it had either a manual or regular automatic transmission.

[@brokeboy87]

Smart move, Dct are very unreliable.

[@oldshowfanatic77]

Same with me with a 2017 Kia Optima LX Turbo with the 7-speed DCT. A garbage transmission. Got rid of it back in 2020.

[@maga6319]

@@brokeboy87 Not Hyundai DCT. They're very reliable. WTF are you talking about.

[@maga6319]

You sold it because you can't figure out they have a service department to fix the issue you were having. SMH IDK if you people think before acting.

[@bradleyscarreviews]

The 7 speeds used to be a mess, now the 8 speed dct is pretty good.

[@caedom21]

I watch every video with Nathan in it. Even if I don’t care about the car because power wagon don’t care ❤

[@hawkeytown]

Comfort mode is eco not smart, SMART switches between comfort and sport as needed based on your driving throttle input.

[@Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63]

Nathan is great. More Nathan video please!!

[@kristengalloway2667]

I currently have a 22 Santa Fe Limited with the Dark blue exterior color. 😀Great car has all the features for the money worth some other manufacturers.

[@emoryrubyg9631]

I was on the fence before watching your video but now i really want a calligraphy model

[@jakes5530]

We had a Calligraphy loaner while our Tucson was in the shop, and it was super impressive. Great value for the price. Shame every single DCT Hyundai and Kia is recalled at the moment…

[@monkter6211]

​@@coldplay777 when they have 160 Hyundai 2.5 i4 in stock when they break lol

[@monkter6211]

​@USAking when a Palisade doesn't have hydraulic lifters because they cheep out on the power train, the most important part of a car. Lol

[@maga6319]

@@allentoyokawa9068 They didn't have a recall for DCT. LMFAO Toyota just had a recall yesterday for 140k 2022-23 pos tundras. LMFAO

[@maga6319]

@@monkter6211 Bad trolling kid. GO cry to your momma's arms.

[@maga6319]

@@coldplay777 LMFAO he got nothing to say since he's comfortable trolling on every hyundai cars.

[@shiscarp]

We bought one of these 2 weeks ago. I'm really surprised at how nice it is and how powerful the engine is. We spend 42,800 at zero percent for 60 months, I think that's a good deal with how expensive cars are these days.

[@VaibhavRajashekarsings]

Where did you buy the car? Please share the address

[@alanj7306]

Those wheels are pretty cool.

[@jimsmith8324]

I was between the Hyundai Calligraphy and the Toyota Highlander. The Toyota has way too much cheap plastic and it's $4500 more money! Very happy with the Hyundai after two months.

[@gabevillarreal96]

You should be, it's 2 Flippin months! It's not the first 2 months you need to worry about with a Hyundai or kia, it's the long hall. Time and mileage will get you even if you are good with your maintenance. They simply don't hold up over time. And if you are someone who keeps cars well over 100k.... this is the wrong brand. The Toyota with cheap plastic and a 4500$ higher price is worth every penny of long haul reliability is your thing!

[@tylergarcia7002]

@@gabevillarreal96stuck in pre 2016 I see. Got a 2017 Elantra, driven it over 250k miles now. Let me tell you not a single noise complaint, nothing falling apart. Get out of the “Toyota and Honda are the only reliable brand” hole. That’s ancient thinking when compared to modern vehicles.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@tylergarcia7002 It's thinking based on everyone I know who owns a Hyundai kia product. Haaa! You are acting like pre 2016 is 20 or 30 years ago. My 2015 Accord V5 Couoe has been flawless for 8 years. My sister's 2015 (same year) Hyundai sonata was a nightmare to own! As soon as it hit 100k it was 500 here 1200 there 600 here 2000 there. Got rid of it and got her into a camry and she couldn't be happier. My thinking on the matter is not ancient. But Toyota and Honda reliability dependability and durability DO GO BACK FOR AT LEAST 7 DECADES AND WHILE HYUNDAI HAS IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS, THEIR RESALE VALUE WHEN COMPARED TO COMPETING HONDA AND TOYOTA MODELS REFLECTS THAT THE INDUSTRY AND GENERAL PUBLIC HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA ABOUT WHAT WILL LAST AND WHAT WONT. ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE. Abd although their warranties look good, they simple don't honor them consistently. I am a Toyota Lexus Honda guy based on my personal experiences abd my friends and family as well as ALL THE REAL DATA THATS OUT THERE. Not jd power and not initial quality studies which mean nothing. I'm talking real long term data! Look it up.

[@dparis2172]

@@gabevillarreal96After test driving a Highlander XLS my fear is that it’s longevity means I would be stuck driving that bore of a vehicle for years. I couldn’t wait to finish my 10 minute test drive and get out of there. Seriously, I was shocked at how “boaty” it felt. Sluggish response and still “Toyota noisy” which is what turned me off to the brand about ten years ago. I drove a 2023 Santa Fe Limited later the same afternoon and the difference was night and day. Hyundai is a whole level above Toyota, as far as the driver experience is concerned.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@dparis2172 I totally respect your opinion. Remember just because they are built to last forever doesn't mean you can't trade it in down the road and get an amazing return on your depreciating asset. But you should always buy what you love and if hyundai works for you and you have had good experience with them, then by all means buy it. I'd probably get rid of it though right before the 100k warranty runs out just to be safe. I've had my Honda Accord EX-L V6 Coupe for 8 years abd I only have 94k miles on it. I've had zero problems in that time and I do my own maintenance DILLIGENTLY AND RELIGIOUSLY! To ne that is key to avoiding most problems as well as not frivong it like you stole it every day. Best of luck with your Sabta Fe. They are beautiful looking vehicles inside and out!

[@jbar_85]

We had this car for nearly a week as a rental with all the options it seemed, just not the calligraphy model. It drove like a boat and the upgraded sound system was just “okay”. But, for people who have a need for this big vehicle, it was comfortable. I just wish it also was able lower the seat more than what you are allowed to do.

[@waynewallace2061]

I had a 2013 Santa Fe turbo. Local dealer replaced the long block at 1600mi. It was the dreaded wrist pin tick. Never went back to Hyundai.

[@maga6319]

You trashed it bruh. Not hyundai fault.

[@bradleyscarreviews]

We enjoyed our 2023 Santa Fe. Amazing car

[@alirezajahangiri6683]

I have a 2029 and very good suv, I like it, no issues, no noise, good handling.

[@paulkelly8533]

..😐💭?!

[@alirezajahangiri6683]

I mean, generally, Santa Fe is a good car. 2023 would be better.

[@henrikkoukku2896]

The color of the body and the color combination of the front grille 👍🏼👌🏼😉 match very well!. Would you next test the 2023 Hyundai Santa Fe HTRAC AWD with XRT package model and its off-road capabilities?. 🤔

[@dcjohnson2490]

I love the black grille on these. This combo in particular looks very nice and I don’t even like silver lol.

[@alexorcas1]

nathan did a great job with the video, I'm just getting tired of crossovers/suv's.

[@NileshR12]

This car isn’t “too expensive” for what it gives you while still managing to be at or below the average price for a new car. This is actually a fully-loadeed attainable luxury bargain with a performance edge

[@coltoncyr2283]

I own a 21 SF T Ultimate. Let's just get to it. Trubo is amazing, it benefits on highway driving extremely well. On backroads, eh, keep it on comfort. No need for turbo. Suspension. Ouch you'll feel every bump. Charging pad is cool, but really just remove it. Keep it a slot for phones/wallets. Cable charges waaay faster and your phone gets very hot. Useless. Exterior. Love the look. Interior. Awesome. Overall, I wouldn't buy the calligraphy. You get a few extra things over the ultimate but basically the same suv. And this sub actually does very well in the snow! I drive it over my Subaru at times. Yeah, great car!!

[@ThorMaxx]

Not all models with the digital display have the blindspot camera view….only the top end Calligraphy gets it..at least here in Canada.

[@Energizer2000-q2q]

Hello everybody... i just bought a 2023 Hyundai Sante Fe Caligraphy...im picking it up in a few days and super excited about this !!!!! My question ...if any hyundai technicians out there ... or anyone with knowledge about the rear turn direction signals that are under the tail lights . The rear turn direction signals are red 😢😢...wish Hyundai would have made them amber as they all should be amber colour for extra safety attention (in my opinion). Can these red light signals be changed to amber colour by using a flat steel device... not by removing a portion of the rear body. Does Anyone know? Thanks))

[@androidechuz]

What a good time to be looking for this car review! Great video

[@laszlocsorba5753]

Great job Nathan !!! Thank you.

[@NileshR12]

1:58 this looks so premium for a mainstream midsize crossover bc of those 20” & the body color painted wheel arches & bumper pieces

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

It is really pretty though. I love the color.

[@romantashevRT]

All folks...Don't forget that the chief designer is Peter Schreyer. He is now the Executive Design Advisor at Hyundai Motor Group. If you ask me ho is he, then don't bother to make statements about car designs:)

[@jaedevrick]

Are you sure the spare isn’t underneath my 2021 SEL has the spare underneath the cubbies

[@EJBert]

No spare but space is under the car for one.

[@jaedevrick]

@@EJBert thank you!

[@SuperFitness12]

You were awesome! Best review ever.

[@bradleymeyer9775]

I’d rather have this 2023 Santa Fe Calligraphy in this silver color over the new 2024 Santa Fe. If I want a boxy SUV, I’d get the Toyota 4Runner to Land Cruiser. I like the curvy body lines of this generation of Santa Fe.

[@scottnoble5022]

Leased a 2020 Santa Fe SEL, it was ok, no major issues but a lot of minor annoyances. Rattles and creaking here and there, numb steering. Decent reliability and fuel economy. I was fortunate at the lease end to sell it off to a dealer for about 8k over residual. This was the 3rd Hyundai product we owned and probably the last, long term it’s a value brand at best, very light feel … ok I will say it … it’s cheap feeling when closing doors, touch and materials are basic and minimum quality. Hyundai defiantly has a large margin and profit from building cheap cars.

[@maga6319]

You probably had trashed it since you americans can't take care of yourself.

[@scottnoble5022]

@@maga6319 it was trash when it was new, it’s a fricking Hyundai. Seriously I got paid 8k over what I owed on it.

[@maga6319]

@@scottnoble5022 Nah. My neighbor 2023 Hyundai Santa Fe Calligraphy was durable and reliable. He got it since last summer 2022 and he loves it. Nothing trash when it comes to hyundai and their good quality products. Keep trashing hyundais with your poor habits.

[@BEABEREAN10]

@@scottnoble5022I think we need to stop calling them cheap cars. Inexpensive, absolutely, but they truly are reliable and comfortable vehicles. I still love my loaded 2014 Santa Fe Sport. Drives like new!

[@NileshR12]

15:52 To get a GV70 with the same features as this Santa Fe Calligraphy, it would be more expensive in terms of the monthly payment for a lease or to buy it out since the GV70 starts off in pricing where the Santa Fe tops out with the Calligraphy trim. Not to mention the Santa Fe has more passenger & cargo space compared to a GV70 & is the perfect size between a GV70 & GV80

[@NileshR12]

15:26 The rear manual sunshades aren’t a part of an option package. That’s standard on the Calligraphy trim 🤦🏽‍♂️🙄

[@maga6319]

I see these especially the calligraphy at the Rich area. Hyundai ain't playing.

[@scottcardinal6147]

I got a calligraphy for 42 out the door. A gv70 atarts at 52, loaded 64.

[@yvesn58]

Wonder about soundproof and suspension behavior on rough pavement. 20 inches wheels shouldn't help, right?

[@scottcardinal6147]

281hp and 311tq at 1700 rpm is VERY impressive

[@stephenlozano2816]

I can’t wait to check out the redesigned 2024 Santa Fe

[@bmwloco]

Hire BMW and Audi engineers and you get a new Hyundai, compliments of German influence.

[@palebeachbum]

This looks nothing like any German SUV. In fact, it looks better than some of them.

[@mus_xr4653]

@@palebeachbum it almost looks exactly like the bmw x7 from the front

[@bmwloco]

@@allentoyokawa9068 They can't go electric fast enough. And stay far, far away from the 2.4 engine.

[@maga6319]

@@allentoyokawa9068 yes toyotas are unreliable garbage.

[@ThorMaxx]

I never understood why the three prong outlet was never included in the hybrid models or the PHEV models. It doesn’t seem to make sense to only include it on the calligraphy gas engine model.

[@garyjohansen8513]

You're wrong, I have a 2022 PHEV and have a 3 prong located at the back of center console to be available to front and back seats.

[@markconnolly6484]

The Hyundai is a no-brainer over the Genesis GV70, or any other SUV that requires Premium fuel. It's as simple as answering the following question...are you okay with spending the extra $1 per gallon difference between Regular and Premium? I know I'm not gonna pay an extra $15 to $17 dollars every time I fill up.

[@jimlindman7256]

No comment on the single tail pipe? Odd, right?

[@silversurfer8935]

Who would have thought 25 years ago that Korea would be killing the car market

[@AB-jk7tw]

Great vehicle and hard to imagine that do much tech and equipment is included for the price.

[@josezavala2309]

I’m not even remotely interested in this car but Nathan did a review so I watched

[@resplendentwitticism]

Ok?

[@allanw6103]

Cant say im a fan of these new front ends or the wide button heavy center dash in the latest santa fe's. these new grills across the brand are weird to say the least. i said the same thing about the new ram grill a few years back, but now i like them. cant see my opinion changing w these things esp when compared to kias. the XRT looks a little better all dark and cladded out. at least they upgraded the powertrains but wish the turbo was available in lower trims or fwd for a sport version. can i get a Sorento sans the 3rd row please? w a turbo and a real offroad pkg. now that would be a cool suv to give the GC, Passport ts, and Outback wilderness some competition. a tow pkg and full size spare wouldnt hurt either.

[@0toeknee0]

the calligraphy isn't worth it in our opinion.....we had a 2021 mid level santa fe and loved it but got a LOT of money in selling it and bumped up to a gv70.....worth every penny......we entertained a palisade but they can take their 4k over msrp and stuff it in their glove box.

[@jeffs6090]

It may have been a bump up in quality and luxury but not in size. The GV70 is quite a bit smaller than the Santa Fe. The rear seat is rather tight in space. If you don't mind that, then it was a good choice!

[@badnwsbert5831]

Did you get it with the sport prestige package? I was looking at a gv70 with the same tech as the calligraphy and it was 15k more. Wasn’t really ready to fork out that much more money so I went with the 23 calligraphy. The gv70 is a beautiful car congrats.

[@axelp6061]

When you said cojones, I felt that

[@enjoylife7030]

With current incentives you could get a new grand cherokee altitude for about the same, maybe even a little less though. I would spend my $45K on the new grand cherokee.

[@mattm5447]

I wouldn't 😂😂😂😂

[@badnwsbert5831]

For the 45k price you’re getting overland/summit trim technology. That’s would be in the mid 60’s++ if you got a grand Cherokee overland/summit with similar tech options.

[@donna8243]

Yeah, don't get a grand cherokee. They're total shit. Can't wait to get rid of mine.

[@PrincessTS01]

When I was shopping locally I visited the Hyundai dealer and I didn't like what they had to offer, I didn't like the experience at their dealership... I ended up ordering a jeep compass from the factory.

[@barbandkids]

I believe there is a full size spare under the storage

[@robertspreter3027]

Not all have a spare tire. It may only come in the front drive models.

[@jacobyo99]

This is a hell of a lot cheaper than a loaded Chevy blazer or Honda passport

[@maga6319]

Reasonable price.

[@scottcardinal6147]

Blazer loaded is 43k. Same as calligraphy. But the warranty is lousy with gm.

[@jacobyo99]

@@scottcardinal6147 a Blazer can get to 50k EASY

[@henrikkoukku2896]

What is the acceleration time of this model from 0-100km/h?. 🤔

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Caranddriver tested it at 6 seconds flat to 60mph. It could definitely be quicker if they allowed the turbos to spool when brake boosting.

[@henrikkoukku2896]

@@ayushmalpeddi2793 60 mp/h=100km/h. 😉

[@jayhiggins5239]

So Ford dropped the 'power shift' but Hyundai is still making hay off the DCT? Why not just buy an Edge Titanium?

[@mikeherber8358]

The spare is under the rear bumper if u have not figured that by now

[@EJBert]

The space is there but alas no spare. I bought one on eBay, removed the grocery bin and threw it in that space. Better than crawling under the dirty under carriage.

[@robertspreter3027]

Not all models come with a spare.

[@patrickcotter5629]

DCT? No thanks, they are not durable if you plan on keeping it more than 6 or 7 years

[@jimharrison3552]

10 year, 100,000 mile warranty

[@patrickcotter5629]

@@jimharrison3552 What happens in year 11 or 101,000 miles?

[@jimharrison3552]

@@patrickcotter5629 Traded in at 9 years and 364 days

[@patrickcotter5629]

@@jimharrison3552 Not everyone wants to do that though.

[@jimharrison3552]

@@patrickcotter5629 Then they should look elsewhere

[@lululovelovelove]

Love it and have one ❤

[@tyty13333]

Listen here Buster, if you go Genesis then you aren’t getting an SUV for that price I hate to tell ya! 😂

[@nlken7175]

The price is for a extra engine when it needs to be replaced at 60k. Kia and Hyundai as a very bad reputation for engine failure.

[@gabevillarreal96]

I'm wondering if Genesis will be the same. So far their engines, the 3 3T (Stinger and Genesis gv70 g70 and the 3.5T which is exclusive to Genesis have been good.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@coldplay777 How does VW become the number 1 selling car manufacturer in the world with their ridiculous reputation for unreliability and breakdown prone vehicles?

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@coldplay777 Who cares if you are number 3 or 5 or 2 the fact remains that the brand over the long hall is unreliable based on the metrics and data. You brought up the question of how the become #3 with a bad reputation. My initial question was wondering if Genesis will suffer the same reliability issues over the long hall or not. It had nothing to do with their ranking in world sales. Two completely different metrics. Get out of here with that. And while your at it go buy 4 hyundais

[@maga6319]

You've watch too fake news and KZbin for the day. Go back to reality.

[@maga6319]

@@allentoyokawa9068 1. VW 2. Toyota 3. Hyundai 4. GM Your toyota fanboy self isn't using his brain today. I suggest you go back to doing your research. Don't be crying once they outsell toyota and surpass toyota worldwide clown.

[@jsfbay1]

The GV70 has far less space than this Santa Fe, so it's not an apples to apples comparison. I get that it's nicer though.

[@EJBert]

Agreed much less rear leg room from what I understand.

[@BucksMom218]

I almost bought one then went on line and saw engine failure. Nope…I live in a rural area…its a toyota or honda for me. 🙁

[@chrisheffner3024]

1:50 into the video, first commercial.........................

[@billnorblat4047]

Not enough leather for the top line.

[@NileshR12]

Well if it had too much leather it would encroach on GV70/ GV80 sales. I mean this already has a lot of Nappa leather but it could use a little bit more leather or at least leatherette right by the door handles

[@dyceinshades]

It does slide

[@ПЁТРПЁТР-Україна]

это BMW X7 ?

[@ien2023]

Getting a luxury car from Hyundai is like ordering a gold leaf burger at Mcdonald

[@coldplay7_]

you say Mom, I don't have money for a burger😂

[@gabevillarreal96]

I'm not sure, and I'm a Lexus guy, but I'm not sure Genesis is exactly like Hyundai kia. I'd like to think that they are more reliable but after 100k, I doubt it.

[@palebeachbum]

This is technically not a luxury car. Genesis is their luxury division. I guess you also have a problem with VW's Audi, Honda's Acura, Toyota's Lexus, and Nissan's Infiniti.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@palebeachbum Not at all. My experience with my VW I owned from new until 150k and 7 years was terrible. My sister's and colleagues experience with hyundai and kia was terrible. My experience with honda toyota and lexus has been stellar along with everyone I know who drives one. Obviously all manufacturers have their hiccups and nobody is perfect, but in my experience and in the industry, more often than not, the brands i choose get it right and do it right. My words and opinions are based on real world data and personal experience. Not generalizations and propaganda from marketing firms. I don't repeat what I hear... rather I tell people my experience.

[@coldplay7_]

@@gabevillarreal96 Why are Japanese fanboy doing this here? No one cares about your experiences🤔

[@hellolove1576]

You're wrong about the Genesis gv70 you're looking at around 7,000 more and has less features

[@BrettReid-b9w]

Put snow t tires🎉

[@gmarod6099]

My engine went bad at 9,000 miles.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Avoid Hyundai and KIA...their engines are blowing up.

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

Isnt that only the V4s? Their V6s are fine. Plus they give you a 10 year warranty if you get them new/certified, so if you got'em blow em up!

[@brokeboy87]

​@@LucasLeCompteMusic kia and Hyundai have been close to Toyota reliability scores for a few years, but select individuals will always bring up the Korean mechanical faults, even if it was 10 or 20 years ago.

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

@@brokeboy87 oh I know. My wife had a Santa Fe with a 10 year warranty!

[@brokeboy87]

@@LucasLeCompteMusic The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the cheaper materials and paint quality. I would recommend select make/ models to even my family from the Korean brand.

[@maga6319]

@@allentoyokawa9068 toyota is junk. I agree.

[@Daniel-sm8cr]

The spare tire is under.

[@DonRyanWA]

I have a 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe calligraphy. Intermittent wipers are complete garbage. Read through comments lots of other people say the same thing. Avoid this car.🤬🤬🤬

[@CyberSkunk90]

The entry level GV70 is trash. No tech, no features, and the interior design is terrible. You gotta buy the $55k version and up on the GV70 if you want the nice features and nice nappa leather and interior design. Picking up a 2023 Calligraphy today actually. Negotiated it down to $41k. Pretty sweet deal considering they were asking $46k

[@furmanmackey5479]

Ahhhhh.....No. No spare of any kind and so, so much useless tech stuff to break and a well graded, dry dirt driveway being about as much "off road" as it is going to get on its best day.

[@justtestingonce]

Geez ppl, the spare is underneath. Do some homework before commenting.

[@furmanmackey5479]

@@justtestingonce I was being just tiny bit sarcastic, but you make a very valid point! I'm willing to bet that better than 90% of the auto buying public today would not think to look under a vehicle other than MAYBE a pickup or SUV for a spare. And don't get me started on how few people today have a clue as to how to change a flat anyway.

[@kmb0172]

They make beautiful car’s and SUV’s but can you get past 50,000 miles before it blows up

[@jimharrison3552]

10 year 100.000 mile warranty

[@noisecloud2846]

get the rav 4 plugin hybrid

[@naveenthemachine]

Lol the rav4 is worse than this in every way

[@maga6319]

So i can get that hybrid system shutdown? No thanks.

[@mikewest6569]

The car is on a stop sell recall as the transmission is pure crap. DON'T BUY!!

[@FlyGuy457]

Nah. A good one to skip.

[@maga6319]

Or maybe you're too broke to afford it.

[@liaqatkhan5521]

Old model .

[@9663mu]

They literally take and copy everything from other manufacturers. And I get it they all do but Huyundai does this a lot

[@palebeachbum]

What? This looks nothing like anything else from any other manufacturer and borrows no engineering from anyone else.

[@TheScottAF]

What specific vehicle is this copying?

[@brokeboy87]

You lost me on that one.

[@coldplay777]

@@allentoyokawa9068 yes japan makes trash

[@maga6319]

@@allentoyokawa9068 toyota does. I agree.

[@AhmedYousef-fz1dz]

First

[@saddist1Gtown]

The Koreans have done exactly wha the Japanese did in the 70s-90s sell you cheap and reliable cars and then you get suckered with hefty prices based on presumed quality and reliability mind you the same as any other modern day car manufacturers but the fix is already set and so the mugs go back again and again claiming loyalty while paying over the top prices. It's an MO that has worked on the average American driver ever since they didtched home brands like Ford GM Chrysler and others. This was in Europe where I originate but now you go to any mailand European country and you would find the gig is up their and the folks are more inclined to buy home brands so the sautration of Japanese and Korean cars is less obvious there. Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Ford, churn out equally good cars and in some cases more luxurious interior which most folks have at their disposal to make better choices.

[@scooby-tm8yk]

in america, the perspective is quite different. japanese and korean brands are polar opposites in terms of reliability. no one knows anything about renault, peugot, or citroen. all we know about european cars to avoid tata jaguar land rover and stellantis at all costs.