The New Toyota Land Cruiser Kills It On AND Off-Road!

[@TFLoffroad]

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[@jeffk464]

With some turbo engines using premium fuel will give you a bit of a bump in HP. With a NA engine it does nothing. Now if the manufacturer designs the engine for premium fuel they can go a little higher compression and that gives you a bump in power.

[@mikeisaacs2314]

Because it’s not the video for that other people are watch them

[@hometheaterjoe9489]

Why do y’all never release a bad review I wonder 🤔

[@rodrigoorellana9427]

That is a land cruiser PRADO. the real land cruiser aka 300 series

[@aqcrc51]

Pretty much. I’m staying with my 5th Gen T4R

[@benjamincort8162]

6:30 when he says “toyota tacoma trd pro” a tacoma drives past and when he says “4runner” a 4runner passes

[@TroySmith-wx2mq]

BRUH A JUST NOTICED WHAT THE HECK

[@ap4x452]

THAT'S COLORADO 😂. Just Tacomas and 4runners as far as you can see

[@gonzalooviedo456]

Then he said "I have the DNA to beat you" and a big semi truck passes. 😮

[@drive-channel1834]

That's a nice setup by TFL

[@davidharden8469]

Good eye. Nice coincidence.

[@TheFamilyCruiser250]

Awesome! You just gave me all the confidence I need to get mine out on some harder trails.

[@Mariposaland]

I went to Toyotafest in Long Beach, California yesterday. Finally got to sit in the new LC. It definitely looks great and is comfortable. I was also able to find a gas station near there with $4.09 per gallon regular gas ⛽️ to put in my FJ Cruiser.

[@brownmcpherson5724]

That's why I love my 2018 LC 200. Some tech, but too much. It has a 2" lift and off-road tires and does really well. And not some overly complex powerplant

[@drive-channel1834]

Too much tech can be toxic, not good.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

With just a rear locker, that 80 series would be a beast...

[@stonepa]

Already a beast. Drive 200 miles of washboard gravel deep with dust with a heavy load in the back and a LC60/70/80/100/200 just shrugs it off.

[@calamaridog]

Well, the 80 Series was offered with front and rear locking diffs. It also has a solid front axle and plenty of articulation.

[@brandtblues]

I have a 1997 FZJ80 with factory triple lockers, OME and Falken WildPeaks 33's. It's pretty damn invincible. I don't find the lack of power to be a problem. She does have a drinking problem however.

[@CMS069]

Hardcore pass on a 4-cylinder with turbo....

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@calamaridog front, rear, and center, actually...

[@corey9313]

You'd think companies loaning cars to TFL would know to load up their cars right because TONNNSS of truck/off road guys are watching this channel. Tommy literally has convinced me to seek out a first Gen Sorento and were the first guys to find the new Tacoma issues. Oh well

[@PatrickRich]

Thats amazing economy for anything with the Land Cruiser badge. Better than I got on the highway with the GX550 too.

[@TroySmith-wx2mq]

I find the battle with the Yaris too relatable 😆I have a 2nd gen 4runner and I have to use the climbing lane going through passes. Semi trucks even pass around me sometimes going up steep slopes. Wouldn't trade it for the world 💪

[@fireforgedathletics]

In South Africa we call it the Prado. We only get Toyotas 2.8 GD6 4 cylinder diesel engine. Drove it the past weekend. Very quiet and comfortable as expected.

[@christianlee1343]

not just in South Africa but throughout Africa

[@hughhawley3169]

Thanks TFL for this and all the other videos you produced on the 2024 Land Cruiser. I bought one last week, and your reviews were very helpful in narrowing my choices. So far, I like almost everything about it. The one major dislike is the complexity of the infotainment system in terms of getting both my wife and me registered/linked. It's more than just an infotainment system: it's what enables the car to remember various settings (including seat/mirror/steering wheel position) for each driver. Toyota did not do a good job on making the initialization of this system something the average driver can do, and, based on the "help" I got from the dealer, they also haven't done a good job educating their sales associates: when I went back to the dealer to ask them how to get my wife's "profile" loaded into the car, their response was, "Oh, you can only have one profile; she'll have to log in as a guest." I refused to believe that at $70K vehicle that comes with two "smart keys" and that level of technology would require a co-owner/family member to log into the system as a guest. Also, both the manual and the screen in the car clearly state that the car will accept up to three profiles, so I knew the dealer didn't understand how to do it. It took me over a week of scouring the manual, googling, and YouTubing to figure out how to get everything set so that the car recognizes whether it's me or my wife in the driver's seat. As for the annoying safety systems, I agree that Toyota should have built in something that disables most of that stuff with a simple push of a button to tell the system, "Okay, we're off-road now; no need to tell me there's a bush a few feet away from the bumper, I can see it on the camera." Such a feature would also be helpful when I back it into my tiny garage--the system loses its mind over the fact that I have about an inch of clearance on each side going through the door, and that it's only a foot ortwo from all the other stuff I have in the garage when I finally come to the exact right spot to be able to open the driver's door between two parked motorcycles. For normal road driving, which is what my car will do probably 90% of the time, once you learn what all the beeps and symbols are trying to tell you, it's not as annoying as I first assumed. I already owned a 2007 Tundra that now has 270,000 miles; my hope is that this Land Cruiser will be just as durable and reliable. Like I said, so far, I'm really enjoying it, and just wanted to again thank you, TFL for giving me such good reviews to help inform me as I compared and ultimately chose the Toyota Land Cruiser. You guys do great work!

[@CJ-rk5eg]

Would love to see a three way off road comparison between these cousins- GX550 , Landcruiser and 4Runner

[@antoine.dufresne]

I love the positivity! I don’t get why people are hating so much of the new landcruiser, it’s great

[@brianfl33916]

Roman is wondering why Toyota didn’t send a tester with off-road tires. I wonder if anyone else besides me has noticed there is no off-road tire option on the Toyota website or build sheet. I think Toyota left it as a dealer add on option.

[@jeffk464]

They desperately need a TRD model.

[@DD-dj4jr]

Because the on road tires work for many and likely deliver at least 1-2 mpg better for EPA. Yes the tires suck on the 1958. Easiest replace. Can be done before delivery.

[@JogBird]

this makes the most sense, nobody will use if off road, and the 0.1% that do will want road tyres as well

[@AllenKrughoff]

Also the 1958 tire size is smaller than LC or FE trims.

[@TougeTourGuide]

You can upgrade the tires with a distributor package to Nitto Ridge Grapplers.

[@KG00714]

Thanks, again for an excellent video I owned a 94 Camry with 170,000 miles and only changed the water pump Toyota makes great cars and trucks. After I got another 2005 Camry then 2012 Venza, finally a hybrid getting over 500 miles on a 17-gallon tank, one thing I learned from my 3 years of mechanic training the master mechanic taught us about the break in period of new cars is 1,000 miles. You have a chance to read your owner's manual it tells you not to go over certain speeds and well as oil change that leaves me to frequency of oil change it says10,000 miles I do 5,000 miles. Remember the days of 3,000 miles, a friend owned a Volkswagen Jetta he tells me they told him every 20,000 miles no way you're going to have sludging. A manager at Toyota tells me I don't need to change the oil that early, really any car I owned I changed the oil at 1,000 miles for those cars reason micro to small particles of metal could be there. That being said 2023- 2024 tundra has a problem with small metal parts however is that just the gas version because I'm not hearing that for the hybrid equivalent. My cousin brought a ford raptor for $90,000 that truck broke at 10,000 miles where a Ford expert came out to looked at it and couldn't explain why it isn't working. You know what ford offered him a new Raptor. You have to give me my money back that's two 5,000 miles oil changes and that truck is breaking already that's nothing new the broncos had valve issues of low miles engines blowing up. That 1980 Landcruiser it is still running great that truck has been known to have over 500,000 miles I'm sure that test with the hybrid Landcruiser is the case very impressed with those street tires going up that stone smooth surface wow. look forward to you next video.

[@GralDoroteoArango]

I have a 2013 Rav4 with 175k miles on it. Been doing all maintenance as described in the book. oil changes every 10k and it runs as the day I bought it. 0 issues whatsoever

[@PeterSierra]

FJ80 is indeed badass. But so is the new efficient, nimble beast. Just add split tailgate and remove all of those god awful sensors and the choice will be clear. Great ep!

[@Queensizemusic]

What a fantastically fun video! Thanks to the both of you for producing it. I always joke that my FZJ80 is the Roy Rogers of cars; she has never met a gas station she doesn’t like.

[@TheUnorthodoxx]

15 mpg for the 80 because the agreed upon miles was 241 from Google and what was used for the new LC calculations.

[@Offshore1977]

He literally said they would go with 241 while filling the new LC.

[@jcurbin305]

15mpg for the 80 is awesome. Smiles per gallon.🫠

[@andybj4318]

When I did a comparison drawing of the LC80 and LC250 on Instagram, I was shocked by the comments. Every second person repeated that it’s not a Land Cruiser, it’s a Prado. No arguments about the overall frame, dimensions, etc. worked. It's great that you did a live comparison test. And no matter how much I love the FZJ80, which I had for five years and it was practically new (16K km), today I have to look for a new everyday car with a nice 4x4 potential. I'm sure that the J250 will be a good „Land Cruiser“, not the Prado :)

[@davidharden8469]

The Prado has been a lighter duty Land Cruiser sine Toyota first made them in the 1980s. Until this year, we have only seen them in the US as the Lexus GX.

[@davidharden8469]

The new Land Cruiser is NOT a 4Runner! It is the 5th gen Land Cruiser Prado, which until this year, Toyota had only marketed in the US as the Lexus-badged GX. Yes, the Lexus GX is a Land Cruiser Prado, a lighter duty LC that has been around since the late 1980s.

[@gotmullets]

Agreed! I've heard and read what you've stated other places.

[@90FirstGenPGT]

Doesn't the new 4runner use the same frame/chassis as the Prado/ All of them share?

[@atg1338]

Blah blah blah

[@JasRoss]

Absolutely right. What the US is calling a 2024 Land Cruiser is just a Prado everywhere else in the world. It's the baby mid-sized vehicle. The US no longer gets the full size all bells and whistles Land Cruiser, for whatever crazy reason.

[@atg1338]

@@JasRoss saftey issues and emissions most likely....duh

[@colbymag2053]

Something I learned on my 3rd gen that seems to be the same on my 4th gen Taco is that the locker will turn on if you are rolling forward in 4L. I’ve never been able to activate it while I’m not moving.

[@jdotsalter910]

Same with my 3rd gen limited

[@co92715]

LC 300/LX and LC 250/Prado/GX are basically a Land Cruiser family.

[@alabama2uz]

**70 series. The only "real" land cruiser.

[@alabama2uz]

😂

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@alabama2uz yes !! . wish we had a real utilitarian LC sold in the U.S. like a troop carrier , the car camper ,overlander I could be

[@MaddNomad1015]

250 and GX feel like real throwbacks to the original LC ethos. 70 series is direct successor to the OG line though

[@co92715]

@@MaddNomad1015 the 70 series or J70 was the root of the LC 250/Prado (J250).

[@scottbeilby2182]

The 70 series is the one us avid off roaders would love to see imported into US. This is a Prado which has been the Lexus here for a long time

[@gureno19]

You say that until you spend $120k on something with windup windows and no radio standard 😂

[@davidharden8469]

Finally someone who understands the LC’s history. Toyota should have badged this vehicle as the Prado it is, so they could better manage public expectations.

[@DonPugh]

Couldn’t agree more re nanny notices! They get even more dangerous on highways where passing a semi truck brakes applied full lock when vehicle senses imminent rearend collision prematurely.

[@Doncan0823]

I would love to see a comparison between the new Land Cruiser and the last V8.

[@johanvandenheever5170]

200 will destroy it…they sell for crazy money now in Africa…🥇🥇🥇

[@charlesd4923]

There are used LC 200’s for sale that are cheaper, and around the same price as the new LC 250. TFL should do an on and off road comparison of these two generations

[@gerrylopez5743]

I know nothing about off roading and how an off road vehicle should be outfitted but I am a fan of logic and a somewhat mechanically inclined and those things tell me that that lc was very impressive specially when you factor in the stock tires and no lift. I’ve always liked the lc and now like it even more. Waiting to see what the new 4Runner will offer and see if that changes anything about the lc.

[@Ttya-bm4gk]

If the base model Land Cruiser is the one you wanna off-road then it should at least be able to option the sway bar disconnect . If I remember right it went 9 inches further up an articulation ramp with the sway bar disconnected . Big difference when off roading. How much could a disconnecting sway bar option cost compared to stepping up from the 1958 to the next trim up ?

[@davidharden8469]

It is a little disappointing that to get the same off-road capability of the cheaper 6th gen 4Runner Trailhunter, you’d have to skip both the more expensive 1958 and Land Cruiser trims and buy the top of the line First Edition.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Nice timing on those driveby's, lol. It's basically a Tacoma with a cool SUV body and different transfer case. But it is a super cool option for people with the dough to afford one.

[@snowysnobdds7842]

That 80 series just never ages...it's timeless and the best for a reason.

[@the1withnoname496]

I really like the new Land Cruiser, it doesn’t look like a big heavy boat, and Nathan videos are the most entertaining💯🤌🏽

[@etb4272]

All the people complaining about the new Land Cruiser will be calling them classic in 25 years and complaining about whatever is new at that time. That said, I'm holding on to my 100 series...

[@WranglermanLevi]

So true. the 40 series doesn't compare to the 80 series and the 80 series doesn't compare to the new 300 series just like the Prado doesn't. Who cares.

[@rockyvi5709]

In 25 years the new Land Cruiser will be in a landfill alongside iPhones and Samsung Galaxies.

[@BelchevKalin]

@@rockyvi5709 that was what they was saying about the 80 in 1990.

[@mblake0420]

Nope too complicated, won't last 15 years

[@mblake0420]

​@BelchevKalin no one said that

[@MrAKhiker]

As always, great job guys! But Roman said it all. The Series 80 is bad ass. If I had to pick, that is the one I’d choose.

[@Shambles7698]

Old land cruiser is living legend. but overall i prefer the new land cruiser because of design

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

pluss of new ones ,mpg , no rust, never been wrecked, no mystery , I can be the original owner with 1958 will it go 200k miles or 25 yrs like a LC i

[@Tryagain205]

Please do a towing test with the new Land Cruiser. Talk about the transmission shifts; does it hunt for gears while towing maybe something like a four thousand pound travel trailer. Can you shift manually to keep it in a certain gear while climbing hills?

[@paulheidebrecht2868]

Yes please!

[@zcarfanatic]

FYI, my friend gets 9 MPG towing his airstream Bambi in his new Land Cruiser. I get 12 in my Colorado ZR2 V6 with a 3k lb travel trailer.

[@donleamon8653]

I just spent 6 days off-roading in Southern Utah (Mexican Hat to Hanksville back to Blanding, we’ve avoid the Moab area anymore) in my 80 Series locked Lexus with 272k on the clock. Flawless the whole trip. Changing the oil today, and back to daily driver status tomorrow here in Scottsdale amongst the poser Broncos, Defenders and G’s. I’ve had her for 11 years now and I don’t plan on ever selling. The 90’s were peak Toyota IMHO, and the 80 series was part of that.

[@christianlee1343]

not just in South Africa but throughout Africa

[@Trdwill5812]

Will the hybrid system help enough that we won't need to regear for 35/37?

[@trappjp]

Base model+bone stock+street tires=SUPER impressive

[@arnegerhardsen3755]

Dear Roman. The Lamd Cruiser we get in Europe are the same ss in the US, but if we want to uy the 5 seater we have to pay aprox 170.000 USD, and the 2 seater work truck model has a cost of 100.000 - 120.000 USD because our authorithies think we can drive ev's.

[@patbernier6866]

All season tires with skid plates and rock rails???

[@northerntoyota7584]

Yes, if you haven’t noticed, Toyota puts crappy tires on all their off road vehicles

[@illuminati1618]

Yeah unfortunately they must do it for better mpg numbers or something. I got a 23 TRD Off Road 4Runner and the tires were not even remotely good for off road or snow. Just have to plan on upgrading if you do off road. I am also betting the vast majority of people who buy these vehicles never take them more off road than a simple dirt road.

[@下田洋介-w4z]

@@illuminati1618 Yes, it’s for increasing fuel efficiency.

[@trailrunnah8886]

Toyota should be embarrassed, that's so lame. Makes the thing look like a rental.

[@SLHJR0390]

@@illuminati1618 Dunlop AT20's are a pretty good tire bro

[@njlillegard]

That's an impressive MPG score for the FJ80. I'm lucky if mine gets 13 downhill with a tailwind ... It's great that the new LC performs well, even with nannies and terrible tires. Thanks for comparing the legend with the new kid.

[@thomwat]

Sad how many Toyota LC/4R/FJ owners don't know the joy of off roading! I'm so lucky to have lived off road the last 20 years so I get to off road every day in my commute! I'm a lucky man! Get out and explore folks! (+1 the nanny alerts - hate 'em!)

[@frankburch5104]

I have a GX 550 Overtrail and my buddy Steve has the LC 1958. We took them wheeling in the Prescott National Forest (AZ) last weekend and the first thing we did was turn off all those annoying warnings. A minute with the menus was all it took. I'm running Toyo 35's with a Westcott Preload Collar lift and Steve was running 34's with no lift. Both trucks performed GREAT! We found the the steepest hill either of of us had ever run, and gave it a try with 4-low and lockers engaged. We ran it both with and without Crawl control. The performance of these trucks were amazing. We were nervous about such a steep incline but it turned out to be a walk in the park.The lockers are magic! I've got a week long trip to Moab coming up, and by then the GX will have off-road bumpers, steel skid plates and a King suspension. Can't wait to see how it handles the slickrock. Hey Roman, spend a minute with the manual before you test it again! 🙂

[@biggin92191]

We’re there any noticeable differences between the two different engines? Off and on road

[@frankburch5104]

@ plenty of power from both.

[@northerntoyota7584]

You can turn those warnings off, my 23 tundra is the same when you put it in 4lo. It’s in the settings on the driver info dash screen (whatever the one in front of the driver is called. )

[@doublebackagain4311]

Roman interacts with dozens & dozens of vehicles each year, if he can't figure out how to turn off the nannies, it would be a testament to how poor the interface is on the LC.

[@northerntoyota7584]

@@doublebackagain4311 lmao ok. If you read the 2 warnings he’s getting you simply press over on the menu and turn off the very things it’s telling you. Also Roman driving so many vehicles for short periods of time would be a disadvantage as you truly don’t get to know the vehicle well.

[@AmericanDuck]

Agreed, just because he has a YT channel about cars doesn’t mean he knows very much about electronics in cars. I’ve watched him use his son as a crutch many times when it comes to finding the settings on things. 15 minutes in the menus of your infotainment screen can teach you where most of the settings are. Tommy should be running the channel. He’s way more informative. Roman should just produce.

[@michaelpeters6350]

i have a 22’ tundra and can confirm the beeps can be disabled on these newer safety sense toyotas. it should be a little easier / more intuitive though. i think its intentionally a slight hassle

[@highlevelpilot975]

Great video guys! Very entertaining with these two dudes "Going to need to save for Roman's hair plugs" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@spedracer55]

You know what never thought about it but turbo hybrid ensures you dont lose power at high altitude

[@christopherwoodyatt38]

I know Toyota has great build quality it just would make me nervous to take such a complicated machine out into the off-road trails. You never know when you're gonna hit a big puddle and with a very complex system such as the hybrid with a Turbo charger. I would have my reservations

[@spedracer55]

@@christopherwoodyatt38 100%

[@DavidRC-m9w]

@@christopherwoodyatt38 well Toyotas have been doing hybrid for almost 30 years now and they are one of the most reliable dry trains out there. Yes, they are very complicated but it’s also a remarkable set up. That is highly highly reliable. Also Toyota using something that no one else is using which is a commercial grade turbo charger.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

@@DavidRC-m9wlmaooooooooo

[@faheemabbas3965]

@@christopherwoodyatt38just watch what throttle house did to a review unit Land Cruiser recently. Made it leak oil by jumping it off of a dune and it still made it back all the way from the middle of nowhere to the city. A shame they’re a bit overpriced even at MSRP and the dealer markups are not helping. Once again, the land cruiser will leave the US because the 4Runner is too good.

[@TheMikeshannon]

Test drove the 1958 yesterday. Was definitely nice but the choices are odd for what it comes with. Manual seats and rear lift gate, no front/360 camera, no cooled seats. But still 60k and needs premium gas

[@l0n3w01f]

Lol, when 4 dollars a gallon came up I went "whoa! That's cheap!!!!!" From LA...definitely a bargain 😂

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

From Texas: wow that’s expensive

[@SettoStun688]

In the USA it's a replacement for the Land Cruiser 200 series because you don't get the 300 series. In other parts of the world the new LC is known as the Prado which is a model below the 200 and 300 series.

[@MrChrisOcean]

Wow. The new Land Cruiser is such a serious off roader.

[@robinwade2547]

FYI I used to go into a Chevron refinery in the blending room for gas and asked what it cost to make the higher grades for fuel and the answer is lot less than the difference they charge

[@hereigoagain5050]

So happy that most Land Cruiser customers seldom (never) go off-road, so off-road enthusiasts can find good ones to modify in 10-20 years.

[@F.P.E.7211]

I know A LOT of people in our off roading community that take their LCs offroad....newer models on more challenging courses as well. Thisbis what they're made for, so why wouldn't they?!?

[@davidharden8469]

Once the prices have dropped a bit, yes.

[@stonepa]

Watched this again today. A test I have yet to see in the US is what I call the long term pleasantness test. I would love to see someone drive the new LC250 or a GX 550 on one of the ADTs with some very long corrugated gravel roads in the mix. That is a much more real world test than just some simple hill climbs. Really curious how well the new vehicles are screwed together for the long haul. Neither my 100 or 200 Land Cruisers, even after lots of miles on those types of roads, has any rattles and nothing has come apart.

[@gureno19]

Not going to lie, as an Australian, it triggers me to no end hearing it called and compared to the full size LandCruiser 😂 😂 as that name plate is sacred down here and reserved solely for the 300 and 70 series, with the Landcruiser Prado being reserved solely as our countries favourite soccer mum car 😂. Jokes aside, Atleast you still got the Prado as a minimum though in your market, they are good tourers and will get you to some awesome places.

[@MathewPollard-vj4uq]

The new one lines up size-wise nicely with the 60 series and 70 series. I don't think they need to get bigger with every iteration. On-trail a narrower profile has a lot of advantages.

[@yvanhaidaraly8710]

Good video 🎉 Thank you for sharing !

[@DD-dj4jr]

This is a great compare // similar size and relative market pricing when new. Bonus / Nathan!!

[@mattmacpherson1033]

Is Nathan the one person bucking the trend and moving “to” California?😂 I love my 2015 LX570. Descent bumper/ tire carrier and off road tires and wheels.

[@ScottBlankets]

I just want to learn where to get that 75 cent coffee.

[@JokerG16]

In a time machine

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Or at home with a Keurig...

[@YungPickleDaSour]

Are you sure u want a 0.75c coffee?😂

[@bullet2monkey]

This is at the Maverick's (formerly a Kum and Go) off of i70 and hwy 40, by the Wooly Mammoth Park N Ride.

[@tallll70]

At your house if you don't use water

[@Assureddominance]

Land Cruiser is great as far as capabilities. New tires a size up is all it really needs. But will it blow up at 40k?

[@FredTS]

One is a proper LandCruiser and the other is a Prado. 😛

[@mysteriousoklahoma777]

Exactamundo

[@intrusivethought]

Which is also a Land Cruiser. Land Cruiser is a family of vehicles, the Prado is a light duty Land Cruiser.

[@FredTS]

@intrusivethought it is technically, yes. No Aussie I know calls it a LandCruiser though. It is always referred to as the Prado.

[@MMOverlandAdventures]

The 80 series gas would be at least $1.00 cheaper per gl right? And running higher octane actually makes it less efficient in mpg right?

[@FloEvans]

I just did Moab in my 5th gen 4Runner. Basically the same, mudflaps and muffler scrapes. Averaged around 16mpg driving through Colorado. The Prado looks great but my 4Runner is still “new” to me (2022). Hopefully in a few model years we get more engine options and the 3rd row back. I also prefer a RWD/4WD system to full time but I doubt that would ever be an option. I would also like factory steel bumpers and a front locker but that’s just dreaming 😅

[@psyberiusblack]

Toyota announced the 6th gen 4Runner not long ago. 4Runner will still be a part time 4WD system.

[@aabidamn]

The precollision brake warning sign was there to remind him that he is in fully in charge of the brakes. They automatically turned off when in low gear mode with the assumption the car is in an off road situation. Otherwise the car would stop with every little encounter with bushes and branches. The car also wouldn't be getting out of a ditch or when they're stuck deep in mud.

[@WhiskeyYote]

They need to do base model land cruiser vs a base model wrangler off road. That would be an interesting video.

[@grisa12345]

Wrangler would kill it off road.

[@bluearmy4228]

Great vid guys! Love the new LC...with a tad more clearance! 🍻

[@Myson-k6i]

Wow! That old Land Cruiser is still thee king!

[@SanoyNimbus]

As much as I love the 80-series, used to drive that a lot when I lived in Tanzania in 1993-1996 I still want the new Land Cruiser Prado 2024 more than the old one. I really love the look of it, and I will not do rock crawling in Sweden ;).

[@stevekniess3665]

Thank you thank you I've been waiting for this video I love the new and old Land Cruiser

[@TFLoffroad]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@sizzlacalunji]

In Jamaica this is the Land Cruiser 250 Prado which comes with a 2.8L Turbo Diesel engine and is 7 seater.

[@adamsfly6212]

My 60 series Land Cruiser, 2F engine, is factory rated at 135 HP, new, at sea level. It now has220k miles, lost some ponies, and let's include an altitude of 10666, Vail pass, according to an altitude loss calculator, I am down 43 HP 😭. Now THAT is under powered.

[@Ttya-bm4gk]

There’s an after market company already running 37 inch tires with their lift and they say no trimming or very minimal on the new landcruiser . So they say . If so that’s a huge plus for the new Land Cruiser

[@Adam-hq7ob]

But have not mentioned about rubbing during articulation which is a big deal. If they can fit 37s that don’t rub while off road I’d be impressed.

[@trailrunnah8886]

I saw that, but it was sitting on flat ground. I have a hard time believing that that fully articulates without rubbing. Also, it's definitely going to need a re-gear with tires that big and heavy.

[@MrFjfry]

WOW, someone is moving TO California!

[@davidbutler5114]

Fj80 with 3fe was hugely under powered. 3fe lasts forever. Your FZJ 80 was still anemic but had an additional 45+ hp. The head gaskets on that motor usually go around 200-250k. TFL really means don’t really know what we’re talking about. For example, when Roman talked to Jeep about the original rubicon and kept stating it had a sway bar disconnect.

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

I was told by a mechanic technician to never over top the fuel tank! It could cause evap system issues! That’s what happened to me when I used to fuel my truck. I ended up replacing the evap system and sensor in the engine!

[@grahamperkins9542]

That double clicking is old school, and a bit risky on modern cars

[@Justmejbful]

They didn't overfill. They waited until the first fill was settled and went for a 2nd click. They didn't try to top it up to the brim.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

​@Justmejbful when you pour a liquid into a solid container, there is no "settling". Never heard of this theory anywhere but this channel

[@Justmejbful]

@shiftmotorsports9803 if you pour liquid at a high rate of speed into a container it tends to pitch up. Also there are lots of air bubbles delivered to your gas tank that dissipates after a few seconds. The gas nossle stops dispensing when the gasoline gets to the tip of the nossle. If you are able to fill more after a while it means the gasoline is no longer at the tip no? That means it settled. You see this effect even when filling a glass of water from a faucet.

[@royj8549]

​@shiftmotorsports9803 modern tanks are a lot more than water in a container. My BMW uses a purge valve to control built up air pressure. Valve I slow, causes early click-off of the nozzle. The Corvette takes some time to equalize the 2 saddle style tanks, again, early click-off. There are many other factors.

[@stonepa]

Great video. The mandate for using premium fuel in the new Land Cruiser is an interesting requirement. For a real overlanding vehicle, this may be a problem. I spend a lot of time driving in places where premium is definitely not easily available. My LC200 has no issue running on anything resembling gasoline with zero issues. What happens when I run the LC250 on 85 octane for thousands of miles? May be a deal breaker for me. Seems like a major mistake and may be an assumption driven by the US market and the vehicle being mostly a mall cruiser for most buyers.

[@grisa12345]

Carry some octane booster

[@stonepa]

@@grisa12345 Just got back from 2 months in Baja. A few people with these that I talked to bought Magna rather than Premium if Premium wasn't available. No issues. If it works in the Tacoma it will work anywhere. When I had an LX570, I used regular, even 87 octane, for every fill up. No issues.

[@architypeone8646]

I'll take the old LC over the new one any day of the week. Add a rear locker to that thing and it will go anywhere you want to go. Add a front and rear locker and it will go anywhere you are afraid to go.

[@yoji58]

Moving TO California. Haven't heard that in years. My apologies lol. Good video. I'd still take the 80.

[@fritty9927]

I regularly got 18 mpg on the highway with my 93 80 series. Granted that included no mountains.

[@dadventuretv2538]

Mountains change everything. It’s no comparison.

[@fritty9927]

@@dadventuretv2538 no doubt

[@brandtblues]

Great review - I am considering the 1958 version as my next vehicle. It would be in addition to my LC stable. I have 1997 FZJ80 with factory triple lockers, OME lift and suspension plus Falken WildPeaks 33's. It's pretty damn invincible. I don't find the lack of power to be a problem. She does have a drinking problem however.

[@nlken7175]

100% agree about Toyota overkill with the Nannies.

[@flight2k5]

Blame the gov 😂

[@jeffk464]

I love the nannies on my 2024 Ranger.

[@Enchanted3DPrints]

yes our 23 corolla has a bunch but does almost self drive so thats cool

[@eag8999]

@@flight2k5that too but toyota goes above and beyond in the worst possible way

[@brandonbireley1690]

Can you really not turn them off? Having all that beeping while wheeling would drive me INSANE.

[@jmichael6931]

Getting up The Wall in those crap tires @ stock pressure is impressive

[@RJ-vc2ju]

It's what you get with a mechanical rear locker.

[@kerrywedge6977]

Guys great video for those of us who can keep things in perspective . Does this mean that Nathan is leaving the channel?😢

[@TFLoffroad]

FYI: Nathan is starting California bureau

[@68mustangman]

@@TFLoffroad Northern or Southern? 😆

[@MultiAjmc]

For us in OZ its a Landcruiser Prado our Landcruiser is a 300 series

[@drive-channel1834]

Yeah. No. Whatever. They all have 2850mm wheelbase now.

[@jerryfrench2981]

@@drive-channel1834 but some have 700NM of torque & shit all over the prado.

[@KL00100]

Thank you for saying it. All the people who are able to afford it are driving it to the mall avoiding any dirt or obstacles. 😅😅😅the secondary market will love to buy one for half the cost and actually use all the cool buttons.

I love the toyota land cruiser and will buy the base 1958 model when available at msrp

[@bocabenkolstad]

Yeah, it's that "when" part that's the kicker. I'm still waiting, too!

[@TheUntraveledPath]

Let's not forget the factory twin-locked version of the 80. That thing would walk over this trail.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

It would be interesting to do a budget HP build on the 80 series. Cold air intake, free flowing exhaust, better intake manifold, better injectors...

[@MHix63]

Will the new 4Runner require Premium fuel too? Pro, Trailhunter, and Limited share the same engine as the LC, yes?

[@DesertRox]

The 80 series any day of the week.

[@ejesoriginal]

TFL / Roman / Nathan: Why does the new LC require premium fuel if it has the same powertrain as the new Tacoma, which I hear does not require premium? Is there some sort of difference in the powertrain or the software? Also, I, too, was impressed with the LC's performance on the wall with street tires fully aired.

[@TFLoffroad]

Good wuestion

[@BaconCruiser]

Compression tuning differences. We’ve seen the same with the LX 570 vs LC 200, with the former requiring 91 octane and the latter not. You’ll find forums littered with Lexus owners who used 87 for years and never had knocking and conversely many LC owners who use 91 and swear it runs smoother. My advice is to always go by the manufacturer’s recommendations especially now with turbos being involved.

[@MathewPollard-vj4uq]

@@BaconCruiser I run regular in my 100 with zero issues. If I run premium I can't feel any performance difference. But I'm at high altitude with lower octane fuel already.

[@TahoeMtnMan]

Some of us can't afford to take a $50k vehicle and bang it up... You are very right there. Thanks for doing the damage for us. Saving for my cheap Jeep.

[@Kjhgr01]

Still going to wait for the 2025 4Runner...

[@oni-one574]

It'll be $70k to bro.

[@Kjhgr01]

@@oni-one574 Yeah, 😞 I bought a 2023 LTD so I'm not quite ready to jump on the first one right away.

[@nemomilo333]

⁠@@Kjhgr01I’ll have my Wrangler for another 3-4 years (if it doesn’t die on me), but seriously considering new 4Runner. Unless of course Jeep doesn’t come out with some monster new gen in which case I won’t be converted to Toyota

[@TougeTourGuide]

It's the same thing lol

[@fredmagic09]

​@@oni-one574 most people aren't buying these things brand new. They'll end up buying them used. So highly likely he won't be spending 70k on a 6th Gen 4RUNNER

[@fatmanoverlanding]

Did the North American spec 80 Series come standard with dual fuel tanks from the factory? Australian spec 80 series did, and I have a total of 145L of fuel. But economy isn't great. On 33" tyres, a RTT and laden with rear drawers, recovery gear and a fridge, it's averaging 20L/100kms. The new 300 Series has an official combined (highway & city) fuel consumption of 9L/100kms. My 80 Series more than doubles that. 🤯

[@bubbabiker5653]

I'll take the new Cruiser. Add a slight lift and 265/70/18's and I'm good to go.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

same here turn off all the drivers nannies

[@51KTM51Hurricane]

The match up I waited for. Will Enjoy the video after work. I've a 80serie tripple locked and thinking about to buy the new one but I'm not sure. Thanks

[@lorenzoronpedrique2952]

The 4,500 cc engine it's not underpowered or slow. The automatic transmission is the slow one. That 80 series with manual transmission is very fun to drive.

[@MyViewToronto]

The new Land Cruiser is so good looking.

[@Rooster_king]

Yeah if you like plastic

[@doublebackagain4311]

With some lift + tires it looks much mo bettah.

[@thomasluby1754]

So, according to your experiences, one could expect to get roughly 8.5 miles more per gallon on the new Toyota Land Cruiser then the old one (1997 model). I think most people will be very happy knowing they can drive 85 miles more on every 10 gallons on a new hybrid engine than they could with a 1990s ICE only.

[@hourbee5535]

Now that I know the new LC requires premium, I can cross that off my list of future vehicles.

[@cstyle1917]

Cruises have been calling for premium for at least 24 years. My 2000 calls for premium. That being said, I'm to cheap for that some times.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

@@cstyle1917knock knock… who’s there? Your cylinder! Your cylinder who? Your cylinder wall if you tow with cheap fuel!

[@cstyle1917]

I'll keep that in mind! Luckily I don't tow much!

[@OverlandOverloaded]

The Landcruiser got 23.5 MPG with street tires, but throw on some A/T tires and a roof top tent (because this vehicle will be mostly a tourer/overlander) and now it's getting 10-13 MPG because turbos burn alot of fuel when pushed out of their parameters. I've seen the same thing happen to Jeep Wrangle Rubicon 4xe. Keep it stockish, and that's pretty decent. Having to use premium fuel will make this a no go for many people. Also, the Landcruiser feels more like a slightly larger Subaru Forester, it's a tiny thing.

[@MathewPollard-vj4uq]

Depends on how it runs with regular - It may detune slightly and run great if designed for premium just to meet mileage tests. Tacoma has the same powerplant with no premium fuel required.