What the Big YouTubers DON'T Tell You About Trail Recovery!

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@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
@TFLoffroad thank you for having me on the channel! We had a fun day with you and hope everyone gets something valuable out of it.
@jcart011
@jcart011 Ай бұрын
This was excellent
@surferbummg
@surferbummg Ай бұрын
Can you give some suggestions for soft shackle and screw pin bow shackles?
@jbcope1000
@jbcope1000 Ай бұрын
You, sir, are a scientist of offroad recovery. Great information. Thanks for sharing
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Ай бұрын
This was fantastic content, thank you for sharing all this info.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
@@jcart011 thank you!
@justaname109
@justaname109 Ай бұрын
The most amazing part about this video is that it’s free. The amount of high quality information in this video is incredible
@PROutdoors94
@PROutdoors94 Ай бұрын
Everyone commenting “I could’ve had that LR out in 2 mins” needs a lesson on liability lol. If this is his business, he is liable for what happens to the customer’s vehicle and their safety. All his checks and balances are to ensure things are done the right and safe way. Great informative video.
@CoryWatson
@CoryWatson Ай бұрын
Matts Offroad Recovery does it multiple times a day with customer vehicles 1000x faster, obviously they were trying to teach but I think I'll trust Matts recommendations since he has done it for years and years with probably thousands of recoveries.
@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d
@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d Ай бұрын
@@CoryWatson Neat.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Ай бұрын
@PROutdoor94 And yet, nothing was stated about the legalities of recovering someone. There is the assumption that the person getting recovered won't sue you if something goes wrong. The assumption that if you are doing the recovery you have a clue about how to do it right and or safely so the people and the property goes unharmed/undamaged. 1st comment should be, if you don't know how to recover someone, don't try. ;) Don't try and be macho and make things worse.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Ай бұрын
@@CoryWatson I have watched enough of Matts Offroad to know that he does editing. lol And that he will be the 1st to tell you, he does not know everything and learns as he goes. He is a good guy. He's interesting. He means well. He gains experiences and gets better with each recovery to be more confident in what he is doing. But don't assume his speed is because he is a 1000x faster with 1000x more abilities. It is not a competition. He is not spending excessive time explaining everything in great detail about what he is doing and why.
@Robert-hd4ld
@Robert-hd4ld Ай бұрын
Well first off , he talks like he does this all the time, but he only has a 7000 lb winch? You would think he would have a 12000 lb in stead, kind of makes no sense. And I have never seen anyone pull out a card to add up weights. Chok the wheels, grab a snatch block to set a return line to add pull. Then simply winch it out. Guy is kind of making too much work out of it.
@mikesawyer1336
@mikesawyer1336 Ай бұрын
Okay I didn't realize I was going to learn something but this was educational... I'm humbled by this terrific episode!
@nathanb6690
@nathanb6690 Ай бұрын
Learned more from that video than any other recovery video I have watched. You guys should do a series with this guy! All different situations. Great video!
@dustywheeler6641
@dustywheeler6641 Ай бұрын
Highly recommend Eric and any of his classes. He’s a great teacher and you get to have fun learning skills that could even be life saving.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
Thank you! I love sharing this info and also learn something every time I assist on a recovery or teach a class.
@mightysp00
@mightysp00 Ай бұрын
I feel like I just watched a master class on the basics of vehicle recovery. Excellent!
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg Ай бұрын
This guy is great. Great source of knowledge experience and safety oriented. Love this content and you should feature him regularly.
@jimmy-buffett
@jimmy-buffett Ай бұрын
Psyched to finally get Eric on the channel! I've been wheeling in Colorado for years and Eric is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced offroaders that I've ever met. 20:07 about not pulling yourself down the hill, yeah I did that in this exact spot last year with my 4Runner 🙂
@maverick2242
@maverick2242 Ай бұрын
Definitely surprised, it popped up on my channel and thought Id watch why not, have allot of experience, but still learnt allot. Something I'm hot on is you are never an expert in recoveries and always learning, really looked forward to seeing more of this guy on the channel. Thanks.
@benwolf8011
@benwolf8011 Ай бұрын
A series with recovering vehicles from different situations would be awesome with this guy. Excellent video.
@raulgallardo5140
@raulgallardo5140 Ай бұрын
Just watch Matts off road recovery
@aerynlovell4754
@aerynlovell4754 Ай бұрын
​@raulgallardo5140 Or watch 4WD 24-7 because they do winch recoveries every episode and show how recovery equipment is used. You can buy a complete Recovery Kit from "Snatch". This episode was mostly boring and theoretical. On 4WD 24-7 they explain how long to run the winch and how long to let it cool off while they are performing a winch recovery. It's funny that this "off-road channel" has taken this long to show proper recovery techniques and actual "rated recovery points" that are heavy steel brackets instead of the cheap "factory tow hooks" that they always make a big deal about.
@francoispanneton609
@francoispanneton609 Ай бұрын
Awesome video guys! So many things to think about when recovering a stranded vehicle. I’m keeping this one in my library for annual review. Thank you for the great work. Glad to see the younger generation taking more and more space on TFL. I’ve been a subscriber from the beginning! Cheers
@SandyMasquith
@SandyMasquith Ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! This information is so incredibly helpful. Like you said, "learned so much in so little time," but there's so much more to learn. I wish there was something near me in Southern Maryland that could teach this kind of thing. I am going to immediately improve the tow points on my 4Runner, and start looking for proper gear. Eventually I'll have a winch, but for now, I can at least have the proper gear for someone else's winch,. Thank you thank you thank you!!!
@drewwright771
@drewwright771 Ай бұрын
Oddly enough, the big youtubers have told me that, repeatedly. And it was waaayyy more fun to watch.
@paranormalwheelers
@paranormalwheelers Ай бұрын
Exactly
@sirhcmi3
@sirhcmi3 Ай бұрын
That was by far the most informative demo I’ve ever seen! TY!
@f4murray
@f4murray Ай бұрын
Did anybody notice Tommy stepped over the rope instead of on the rope. This is a great video on recovery. Shows, take your time.
@OriginalTrev
@OriginalTrev Ай бұрын
LOL ...the whole point of the video is to illustrate how KZbinrs are kinda dumb when it comes to safe & proper procedures
@Arexodius
@Arexodius Ай бұрын
That was a fantastic episode! It was really great to get the input of someone with loads of experience with practicing *_safe_* recovery! It's so dang easy to break things or hurt yourself when you're dealing with a bit of weight at weird angles and with resistance, which is usually the case in offroad scenarios.
@toddgibbs1321
@toddgibbs1321 Ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos from you. I want to see things related to how I actually use my vehicle. I don’t drag race. I tow with my truck, I am starting to do more off road now that I have a jeep. This is the content people need. I think people would also benefit from understanding towing set up with weight distribution and clear explanations on how to tow properly. I know you do talk about it, but one dedicated video like this to go through different set ups would be very useful.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy Ай бұрын
They really screwed that mud hole up when they dumped all that firewood in there. If they would have kept the logs long, it would have been better. Those short pieces just move aside and have a huge chance of flipping up and damaging a vehicle.
@rondavis3232
@rondavis3232 Ай бұрын
Welcome...to Jurassic Park!
@ChristianPareATLAS
@ChristianPareATLAS Ай бұрын
🦕🦖🐊
@DYNABIKE1
@DYNABIKE1 Ай бұрын
This guy knows everything. Nice to have an " expert " who can answer All the questions. It shows He's been at it for 30 years - - ->>> !!
@vernonbennettiii3646
@vernonbennettiii3646 Ай бұрын
Excellent video. Really appreciate the methodical, step-by-step analysis of the SAFE way to achieve a successful recovery properly using a winch. Just a couple of criticisms (but my viewpoint does not take into account the very steep slope that probably does not show up well on camera): (1) THE most important piece of recovery gear to bring with you is a SHOVEL -- it'll dramatically simplify the analysis of your vehicle's situation when it's bogged, and it might actually help get your vehicle unstuck; (2) Traction Boards -- 4 of them -- one under each tire, or two semi-stacked under the tires that are deeply stuck. That will probably get most vehicles out of the situation on their own when used properly along with the judicious use of your shovel (and I speak from LOTS of experience getting stuck up in northern Michigan while deer hunting over past 50+ years!). I understand that Tommy's Land Rover recovery in the video was just an example, but from what I saw it seems that a shovel and 4 traction boards probably would have worked, and that is what I would have tried FIRST before resorting to a winch. Again, an excellent video. Hope you have the recovery expert back again real soon!
@jlb4x4
@jlb4x4 Ай бұрын
Awesome video! There is so much to learn about winching safely & this is a reminder to get educated and be safe. Thank you TFL
@genevicente
@genevicente Ай бұрын
Took Eric’s intro. class at this year’s RMTR. Super informative and well worth it. Planning on taking it again as a refresher or whatever class follows it when I attend the event again.
@dreihll
@dreihll Ай бұрын
Remember your rope types, shackles, fail points, load capacities. winch run on, vehicle statuses. sign language, beep beeps and overall Boy Scout nomenclature and you can be an off road recovery rock star like this guy! Talk about a guy who knows his shit. Got me wondering how many times he’s failed miserably and learned from his mistakes. Usually guys like this will share at least one story of a rescue that went awry and the resulting catastrophic outcome. For some reason, I’m led to believe that this guy has never failed a mission! Will never be able to “un remember “ all of the great stuff shared in this video.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
Thank you! Every recovery is a learning experience, some with more lessons learned than others, and every time we learn something new.
@bytesandbikes
@bytesandbikes Ай бұрын
This is a great trove of information! Many thanks!
@kearnsey64
@kearnsey64 Ай бұрын
Ive never got so much information out of a video.Especially on this subject! Great job!😊
@edwardbutera1362
@edwardbutera1362 Ай бұрын
Awesome video! As always, quality, relevant content. Love Tommy’s charisma and enthusiasm.
@ryt2carry
@ryt2carry Ай бұрын
Good video. It was long, but so much good information. Thanks very much and looking forward to more like this.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@krover01
@krover01 Ай бұрын
I mentioned this training for you guys years ago! Glad you finally got it
@jeeperchris
@jeeperchris Ай бұрын
This break down is great. Learn so much in the little details given, what a valuable video!
@MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI
@MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI Ай бұрын
This was actually a very good informative episode. Safety when wheeling is of the utmost importance. Thanks for posting!
@ExplorerOwl
@ExplorerOwl Ай бұрын
Thank you! This is the best and most useful TFL video ever!
@bigdaddy2955
@bigdaddy2955 Ай бұрын
The stuck vehicle is able to help as well. This isn't a dead pull after all. A very important point, even though we are talking about a Range Mallrover. 😊
@Kevin-xy3yr
@Kevin-xy3yr Ай бұрын
Glad they talked about the sizing your Kinetic rope I think people often get to big of rope and then it doesn't stretch much and therefore little kinetic energy to extract.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Ай бұрын
All the reputable rope manufacturers even tell you that, generally on their websites it lists weight ratings for each rope. I guess it really is hard to resist the bigger is better temptation.
@feedrate1
@feedrate1 Ай бұрын
Definitely one of the best top 10 videos. Thanks to everyone involved 👍
@kurtburkhardt5862
@kurtburkhardt5862 Ай бұрын
Some great tips and knowledge. I don't have nearly the experience he has, but have safely pulled many people out including self recoveries. There are often several different ways to pull out a stuck. Evaluating how stuck and where it is stuck are important. Being high centered on a rock where it is caught on a frame point or differential can destroy a winch or vehicle with too hard a pull. I see it often where a kinetic rope and a hard pull are used before assessing how stuck first. Using the least amount of pull needed makes sense. Sometimes stacking rocks or digging out first reducing friction is the only way to safely get out.
@sarrum7696
@sarrum7696 23 күн бұрын
Awesome Video. - it’s another one of those situations where the more you learn the more you realize how much you don’t know.
@CACressida
@CACressida Ай бұрын
Probably the best video TFL ever uploaded.
@chrisparenti2461
@chrisparenti2461 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this information, it’s highly educational. Awesome guys 👍🏻
@bobvedder2451
@bobvedder2451 Ай бұрын
I drove my CJ7 over a small hill and dropped both front wheels into a trench (aka "fighting position"). The jeep was resting on the frame, the front wheels hanging over the open pit. I used a high lifter jack raised the jeep off of the ground in the front and backed off of the jack which landed my wheels on the ground. Yay!
@caifan444
@caifan444 Ай бұрын
Great episode gotta absorb all this knowledge know!
@hbuddyc
@hbuddyc Ай бұрын
Excellent content! So much to consider. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
@wannabeangler
@wannabeangler Ай бұрын
I liked how he mentioned his gear is expensive but reliable from tests. Basics: tow straps, snatch rope, shackles and a bag to hold it all. You don't need the best of the best to use once or twice unless your are in the recovery business. Something is better than nothing. Also use a towel on the snatch rope or strap to aid in case of a break.
@anengineer_
@anengineer_ Ай бұрын
Confirmed 👍
@dustywheeler6641
@dustywheeler6641 Ай бұрын
Winch line dampers are practically worthless. A safety lanyard is a MUCH better option in case of catastrophic failure
@5265060
@5265060 Ай бұрын
@@wannabeangler the synthetic lines with soft shackles just fall to the ground. It’s straps with metal anchors/hooks that people get struck by.
@derelict_wanderer
@derelict_wanderer Ай бұрын
@@5265060 Ummm. No. They don't just fall to the ground.Did you even watch the video where he explains the safety zone? Also the part where he mentions the benefit of the soft shackle flying through the air in case of line breaking. Plenty of other videos on YT showing synthetic still has plenty of recoil when it fails.
@wannabeangler
@wannabeangler Ай бұрын
@@5265060 Did you listen to him in the video? He said, "...lines stretch and pop like rubber bands...". They don't just fall to the ground. Any line under extreme tension will have recoil.
@josephpeterson3446
@josephpeterson3446 Ай бұрын
Plot twist - this guy charges by the minute 😆
@briannichols1586
@briannichols1586 Ай бұрын
Knowing your equipment and how to properly use it is powerful! There are lots of components to a successful recovery and, knowledge/practice are two critical components. Excellent video, excellent instructor. Look Eric and Sierra Mechanica up and take a class or two, you'll be glad you made the effort!!
@ranig2848
@ranig2848 Ай бұрын
Great video. CT will be a great recovery vehicle especially once 48v winches will be available. It has a lot of clearance so has more options for recovery and can more easily recover itself if it gets stuck while recovering, it's heavy so great anchor and no need for engine to be running, so less noise improving communications 🥳
@stacksmasher
@stacksmasher Ай бұрын
You guys are KILLING IT!!
@Tsxtasy1
@Tsxtasy1 Ай бұрын
This guy is super thorough, awesome
@comradecaptain5710
@comradecaptain5710 Ай бұрын
Dude reminds me of the instructors I had in the military. Over complicating a solution to an easy problem.
@CfRlCajunfishRiplips
@CfRlCajunfishRiplips Ай бұрын
This 👆🏼 lol
@cv2010u
@cv2010u Ай бұрын
Yeah, to be honest when the calculations started I was just thinking, can we have just started pulling by now? :D But I don't own an off-road recovery company. By the way, to add, this video had great valuable information. Wasn't trying to troll.
@JogBird
@JogBird Ай бұрын
the difference is that he messes up and kills someone he is liable.. but you are free to do whatever you want
@5265060
@5265060 Ай бұрын
glad I'm not the only one
@gbaines4284
@gbaines4284 Ай бұрын
Obviously this a training video, not a recovery video. They are going slow and explaining every step.
@lawdog516
@lawdog516 Ай бұрын
WOW what a fantastic video, what a smart guy and I bet his knowledge is going to cost you, thanks TFLoffroad
@LordSothMajere
@LordSothMajere Ай бұрын
This was EXCELLENT! He explained it so well! I learned heaps.
@micahrichey5335
@micahrichey5335 Ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video! I learned several great tips! Thank you!
@Hoinar9
@Hoinar9 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, with a lot of important information about safety.
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 Ай бұрын
Lots of good tips and information. I usually just hook up a 20k lb. harbor freight tow strap and hit the gas
@jotinajero97
@jotinajero97 Ай бұрын
😂😂love this
@MrBillsfishin
@MrBillsfishin Ай бұрын
Oooffff. Lmao. It works until it doesn't. Then you replace parts and pieces.
@tyeetamer
@tyeetamer Ай бұрын
@@MrBillsfishinCan’t replace body parts . . .
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Ай бұрын
That is certainly one way. Not the correct way, but _a_ way.
@MrBillsfishin
@MrBillsfishin Ай бұрын
@@tyeetamer you stand in the way? Or help pull the strap? Lmao
@brettknighten1171
@brettknighten1171 Ай бұрын
There was alot said and only 5 points made 1 Get rated gear 2 Know how heavy it is 3 look at how stuck it is 4 Use only the force necessary 5 don't be in the kill zone
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA Ай бұрын
Nice video to finally save for later!
@garretlewis4103
@garretlewis4103 Ай бұрын
Talking about ropes breaking, I have been taught when you have a stretched line, put a blanket or jacket on it to absorb some energy and take away some of the “whip”.
@timmead3021
@timmead3021 Ай бұрын
This was so good! I did not expect to learn so much. You guys should do more informational/educational stuff.
@aerynlovell4754
@aerynlovell4754 Ай бұрын
@@timmead3021 You can also check out 4WD 24-7 and Ronny Dahl for recovery tips.
@zipp5398
@zipp5398 Ай бұрын
I didn’t know if I’d find this video very interesting or not usually I watch your videos just because I like to watch the off-road stuff or just for entertainment purposes but the knowledge in this was pretty good some of the stuff. I’m not sure how it would apply for the few applications I use such as pulling the tractor out of the farm field or just providing something to allow it to walk itself out because let’s face it farm equipment is a lot heavier than most peoples off-road vehicles. But it did give me some ideas for some things to look at if I decide to upgrade equipment, so I appreciate the information from a farming point of view. Now I know what I’m looking at I might see about upgrading from some of the chain stuff I have to some more lighter stuff. The one thing I thought was interesting. Was the chalk on the wheels never thought of that before thanks again great video. 🙌 👍👍
@stump556
@stump556 Ай бұрын
This was really good info. Thanks
@goblintactical8312
@goblintactical8312 Ай бұрын
Probably the nerd in me, but really enjoyed the explanation of formula on his card.
@jamesm7642
@jamesm7642 Ай бұрын
This was like a free recovery class.
@gregc9220
@gregc9220 Ай бұрын
Very educational video great job fellas!
@thinde88
@thinde88 Ай бұрын
Problem is that Toyota can’t make it to the stuck Jeeps in Colorado.
@kadmow
@kadmow Ай бұрын
For anchoring rigging to chunks of steel on a vehicle - simply use steel bow shackles.... For mid point gear - that may end up flying through the air - if something snaps use soft connections... (4.7tonne steel is never going to fail - in offroading with light vehicles..) (Good idea telling everyone that a vehicle with traction can do a traction - steady state - "pseudo winch" recovery - including using snatch blocks/sheave -- many believe that only dynamic gear can be used if the recovery vehicle is being driven..) On 4x4 winches - handy detail is to remove the securing bolt - and install a webbing minimum wrap-lock ("Plasma Lock" TM - for example - make one from dymeema tubular webbing or similar..) - - then friction will be the only securing device - and the bolt can't damage overlying wraps - or fail die to too few wraps... Also the winch line can be removed from the drum - if needed for any reason..
@petermavus4131
@petermavus4131 Ай бұрын
And don’t forget to spray tick control before tromping thru high weeds with shorts.
@Last_Chance.
@Last_Chance. Ай бұрын
This dude seems pretty cool
@g1mpster
@g1mpster Ай бұрын
29:10 uh…nobody sells all that gear in one place? There’s 2 highly reputable companies right here in Idaho where you can buy a complete set of rated recovery gear: Factor 55 and Yankum Ropes. Made in USA gear, too.
@aerynlovell4754
@aerynlovell4754 Ай бұрын
4WD 24-7 in Australia also have the Snatch recovery kit.
@g1mpster
@g1mpster Ай бұрын
@@aerynlovell4754 yeah, I feel like you’d have no issue finding full-featured recovery kits of high quality down under. America has lagged behind the Aussies on this and I think people here are still catching on to the options available. The main point I wanted to highlight is that people can view the requirement to assemble their own kit as a barrier to entry and being able to buy a turnkey kit with all the properly spec’d tools will help more people get the gear they need to perform safe recoveries.
@SurlyDeath
@SurlyDeath Ай бұрын
Great vid! Lots of detailed info!
@timothyouellette5211
@timothyouellette5211 Ай бұрын
I was planning to talk about Matt's Off-road recovery, but others have already thought of it as well :) -
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs Ай бұрын
lol...3:13..."We don't like spinning tires... because you can break components." You mean like when they broke the Taco?
@aerynlovell4754
@aerynlovell4754 Ай бұрын
Mud Terrain tires only work properly when you spin the tires to clean out the tread.
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs Ай бұрын
@@aerynlovell4754 So you are saying he's wrong?
@5265060
@5265060 Ай бұрын
Granted he;s a professional, but Matt sends it with his kinetic ropes all the time and I'll trust him
@OverlandAspirations
@OverlandAspirations Ай бұрын
Agreed. More than one way, always
@powdernitz
@powdernitz Ай бұрын
matt also never "sends" it with his ropes on his first attempt. he talks about going slow and working up to more force, if the speed and force is needed. less likely to break something or hurt someone if you recover someone with slow and steady pulls, with a progression up if needed.
@5265060
@5265060 Ай бұрын
@@powdernitz I agree but he sends it regularly showing yankums won’t snap as easily as said in this video. Kinetic ropes need the force to work like they should. 5mph yanks won’t give the rubber band effect and that’s their specific purpose.
@3rdpig
@3rdpig Ай бұрын
And remember, sand is very different than mud.
@UnyonRing
@UnyonRing Ай бұрын
It’s very situational. Matt’s talked about how he doesn’t like to use kinetic ropes in mud before and prefers a slow winch in that situation. Most his recoveries are in the sand which is very different.
@tylerp1265
@tylerp1265 Ай бұрын
This was an amazing episode!
@olegig5166
@olegig5166 Ай бұрын
I'm a bit surprised to see the old cable rollers on the winch rather than the recommended fairleads for synthetic rope.
@VnazT
@VnazT Ай бұрын
First step is to not drive a Land Rover.
@HelicopterDad-u5b
@HelicopterDad-u5b Ай бұрын
Yup, they suck.
@kearnsey64
@kearnsey64 Ай бұрын
I've owned a 2013 LR4 WITHOUT issue!! Guess there's exceptions 😊
@user-uq7io2os3r
@user-uq7io2os3r Ай бұрын
Yup 1 of most unreliable cars,suv on the world, bad when new and disastrous when/after 5 years old..😢👍
@oni-one574
@oni-one574 Ай бұрын
I had one of those. My cameras were constantly blue screened and I brought it in 3-4 times to get the air suspension fixed the first year.
@ChristianPareATLAS
@ChristianPareATLAS Ай бұрын
His license plate is literally saying Tow Please 😂😂😂😂😂
@KevinSmith-wr1sy
@KevinSmith-wr1sy Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the hell out of this master class!
@doomsdaydiesel
@doomsdaydiesel Ай бұрын
This guy puts off some serious Adam Savage Mythbusters vibes. Just fun to listen to.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel that is high praise, thank you.
@loudandclearmedia
@loudandclearmedia Ай бұрын
One safety tip I'm surprised he didn't mention is to open the hood on the winch vehicle. That way, if something breaks on the stuck vehicle and comes rocketing back, the hood will take the impact, not your head behind the windshield.
@jonmccauley6490
@jonmccauley6490 Ай бұрын
Another piece of sailing gear he might want to use is a Low Friction Ring instead of the heavy and expensive snatch block. There's several varieties but Tylaska is the standard.
@kingsong2599
@kingsong2599 Ай бұрын
Decided against Lexus Gx550 after Quality Problems and Going to Go instead with Defender !
@Slider68
@Slider68 Ай бұрын
Making sure your kinetic rope and winching attachment points are very robust is very important... I was offroading with a few guys and one of the guys (luckily) had two vehicles, and his girlfriend was driving his second vehicle. She got very stuck and I was using my kinetic recovery strap to pull her out. I was pulling pretty hard (my ~7000 lb truck with a 10 foot slack pull), when SNAP, the recovery loop that was welded to her truck's frame broke away from her truck. It bounced off the ground, flew over my truck, went clean through the fiberglass tailgate on his truck, then through the front of his pickup box, through the back of his truck cab, and part way through his passenger seat. He was in the drivers seat and no one was sitting in the passenger seat. We couldn't believe how that ~10lb chunk of steel had turned into such an incredible projectile. Had that hit a person, it probably would have killed them, so I fully agree with what was said in this video about making sure your hookup points are very robust, especially when using kinetic recovery ropes/straps and very tight winch cables.
@paulprice5754
@paulprice5754 Ай бұрын
Best episode in a long time.
@4-LOW
@4-LOW Ай бұрын
This guy must be an engineer. He can take a problem that's stone age simple and turn it into four pages of calculus.
@sunchaser999
@sunchaser999 Ай бұрын
😂
@adamtacheira5323
@adamtacheira5323 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Wow! Must take days to do a recovery
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
I try to keep it to just one page of simple math 😂 but I'll take that as a compliment - math can save a life!
@jeremymerrix6236
@jeremymerrix6236 Ай бұрын
It dmv didn't give them a license in beginning that would save life's. Know your vehicle know it's limits or don't drive...
@roderickhance2088
@roderickhance2088 Ай бұрын
This was awesome information!
@Verb130
@Verb130 Ай бұрын
With two passengers, with a full gas tank, if I am fully loaded with all my gear for overland camping, I'm 400lbs over MGVWR. That is completely loaded with water and all my camping equipment, recovery gear, and tools. If it's just a day trip off-road I am well under MGVWR.
@MartinsGarage97
@MartinsGarage97 Ай бұрын
I have a 00 excursion. I use tow straps and winch. No Kinect strap. Momentum is a huge factor. At about 8k lbs "not fully loaded" you have to be careful. Slow and steady. You can ruin vehicles. My truck doing 20 is the same as a Miata going about 80. Take your time. See everything and be slow
@ElliottTucker1050
@ElliottTucker1050 Ай бұрын
Wow, as we're on an 7 hr flight back to CO. Seemed like a good reason to catch up w/1 of our faves. The info provided in a class setting good. Entertainment? Idk😂, though the theatrics were definitely on High. Like channeling the funny guy from Jumanji w/Australian accent only Midwester 🇺🇸🤭
@malifestro3319
@malifestro3319 Ай бұрын
Complicated to make sure you are safe. But there was a lot of very good information.
@johnr75
@johnr75 Ай бұрын
So, just curious - why does he have a roller fairlead with a synthetic winch line instead of a hawse fairlead?
@mikeadamson4605
@mikeadamson4605 Ай бұрын
I've heard it said that synthetic rope builds too much heat rubbing against a Hawse, and that newer rollers won't pinch the line. Don't know how true that is.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy Ай бұрын
Why not? I kept my roller because it was clean and had no burrs that would damage the rope.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
Good question! Synthetic lines running across the surface of a hawse fairlead generate heat, which is generally bad for synthetic lines. They are also sometimes mounted in sucha way that the hard edges of the bumper also make contact with the line and can crush or cut. Roller fairleads reduce friction and therefore reduce heat, especially with high angle high load scenarios. Key note: if a wire rope was used on the same drum, fairlead, or pulley block prior to synthetic those pieces need to be replaced or properly deburred.
@LeviCook
@LeviCook Ай бұрын
Because he’s running that winch far, far more frequently than a recreational driver would. And because the roller was never burred up by running wire ropes on it.
@mikem4432
@mikem4432 Ай бұрын
I would of gone with traction boards on the rear tires .. easy peasy.
@Dark_h20_536
@Dark_h20_536 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode. Good information and explanations. Makes me want to go out and spend $$$$ on recovery gear 😊. Serious question, though. With the amount of amperage needed to power the winch, I’m guessing there’s quite a demand on the alternator. I wonder if he runs a “bigger” than OE alternator.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
@@Dark_h20_536 I do and also have a second battery, but have run with both OEM alternator and battery for a long time. Leave your vehicle running prior to winching to maintain charge and limit winching time to a few (3-5) minutes with a similar break time to allow recharge and the winch to cool, and leave your vehicle running after winching to continue to top off the battery.
@Quidisi
@Quidisi Ай бұрын
Fantastic information!!!
@Mike89138
@Mike89138 Ай бұрын
This was way more interesting than the title led me to think.
@Last_Chance.
@Last_Chance. Ай бұрын
Anybody watch the yellow jeep?
@tdublove9558
@tdublove9558 Ай бұрын
The banana from MATT'S off road recovery
@kevinblock2307
@kevinblock2307 Ай бұрын
This was great 👍
@johnj4571
@johnj4571 Ай бұрын
$470 for a Safe-Extract 30,000 lb pulley block? Wow, sure is a handsome military grade design. Fantastic video. I learned a lot.
@drobs7279
@drobs7279 Ай бұрын
Great video with some awesome training. A small criticism... no where in video did it mention what the recovery point is on Tommy's Land Rover. Being that the trainer connected a soft shackle to it, I'm going to guess the LR has a Factor 55 Hitchlink 2.0 that is rated for soft shackles.
@Beast_Off-Road_Recovery
@Beast_Off-Road_Recovery Ай бұрын
@SierraMechanica, why do you run synthetic rope with a roller fairlead? You gave some great info for people who may need it. WAY too many people out on the trails with no equipment.
@SierraMechanica
@SierraMechanica Ай бұрын
@@Beast_Off-Road_Recovery roller fairleads reduce heat-generating friction and synthetic lines don't like heat, and the bend over radius of most roller fairleads is greater than most Hawse fairleads with mitigates crushing the line.
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel Ай бұрын
My condolences to Tommy and Chase. I know their hearts must have dropped every time "real quick" turned into another timesink. They were initially planning on doing several recoveries, there's no way they expected it to take hours for each one.
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