Here’s What We LOVE and HATE About Our Long Term Trucks!

[@SlickRickDouble07]

I been watching y’all for years, it’s crazy to find out my co worker at my job purchased the TFL Blue 2024 Toyota Tocoma. I told him his truck is famous on KZbin lol. He looked up the VIN it matches, it’s pretty cool 🤙🏽

[@michaelptm2269]

Before I consider buying a truck, I listen to Roman. No fluff and direct to the point. He can spot BS from a long way away with these manufacturers. Appreciate all the help guys! Great podcast!!

[@atmartens]

I love watching you all, but I’m glad you call Andre out. Sometimes Andre is a little too nice towards all of the brands. If you want to be a journalistic channel and not social media influencers, it’s important to be able to talk not just about the pros of a truck but the cons.

[@BALLSOHARDU]

JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS PLSE!!!!

[@aerynlovell4754]

When TFL took the Tacoma on the "Toaster Test" Andre said the "normal" operating transmission temperature of the Tacoma is 220 degrees Fahrenheit. So it's not surprising that the Toyota Tacoma has transmission problems. A transmission can never run too cool. The hotter a trans gets, the faster it causes premature wear (damage) on the internal rubber seals and the aluminum valve bodies. Towing uphill with an aftermarket trans oil cooler, the temperature should stay under 212 Fahrenheit (100 Celsius). At 230 degrees Fahrenheit (110 degrees Celsius) the transmission is too hot. At 248 Fahrenheit (120 Celsius) you should be looking for somewhere to pull over.

[@adambaddass]

I love your Ranger Raptor videos, keep it around for a while longer.

[@Kahless00]

Usual guidance for selling a modifed vehicle is that youll get about 1/3rd of what you put into the vehicle back. Modifications are very personal and everyone wants something a little different. Its best to keep the stock oarts and swap them back on then sell the aftermarket stuff. You might get about >50% of your momey back.

[@firebry23]

Toaster Test the Ranger Raptor

[@lonerider5315]

Its a chinese truck offcorse its going to fail. Ill bet on it

[@1FiftyOverland]

​@lonerider5315 sure kid sure.

[@ROC805]

​@lonerider5315 it's not Chinese at all... designed and engineered in Australia...

[@kieransteele7223]

Fall has begun so it’s too late this year

[@1FiftyOverland]

Roman, what's better, having a super fuel efficient diesel. Or one that uses MORE fuel? Modern diesel theory lets consume for fuel, urea to save the environment.

[@derrickschultz6871]

Really test that raptor ranger. Take it down rubicon trail. Take it to the limit.

[@JeffinColorado]

the ranger is notttt fit for the rubicon haha. Maybe with a few upgrades

[@is6566]

The Rubicon is beyond the limit of the RR.

[@christianglaude6659]

@29:45 @TFL , its been proven that third-party companies sell your information to insurance companies.

[@RickActual]

💯

[@briancavanaugh7604]

13:52 I refuse to accept that our only two options are the extremely crappy DEF system OR rolling coal. You can't tell me that with human ingenuity we could not come up with a better solution to this issue.

[@J.Young808]

Gale Banks has been doing performance diesel mods (mainly Duramax) for years and they don’t “roll coal”

[@eighty6films]

A kit that allows you to convert human urine to DEF (urea) truckers would save $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@roguedogx]

I'm with you on this, there has to be a better way. Although I cannot find it.

[@christopherhawn831]

There are. Roman has the typical uneducated opinion on diesel and its potential.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Its all in the tuning. The problem is when you tune the truck to run lean, which means no coal rolling, it also increases cylinder pressure and temperature and NOx output rises, which is the whole reason for the SCR and DEF. Anything below something like 18 or 20:1 air fuel ratio in a diesel and you start to get soot. Thats why they have a DPF. So they are stuck balancing between the two. Which is why you have both a DPF and DEF/SCR.

[@jammazon]

Great content as always guys... SO - Having owned a turbo tuning business in Denver, I can tell you that boosting turbos and tuning engines at altitude is often more of a good thing than a bad one. Generally the modern engine management systems are WAY too fuel rich and air low (conservative to anticipate detonation) and dont properly compensate for the 5000-8000 ft ASL around the front range of CO. So, the Denver 100 could have better MPG IF that Ford tune is worth anything. I cant wait to see the results.

Harder to sell a modified truck and dealers may actually offer less than an unmodified vehicle.

[@rondail5675]

I own a Ridgeline. I never owned a Ford. The Ranger Raptor is looking good, best for the money. Congrat's for Ford!

[@mononc420]

I think we do have to acknowledge that there has been at least one cybertruck towing a trailer where the rear end did break off in a similar manner under normal towing conditions.

[@glenncole9263]

That was very interesting about what happened to Blueberry.

[@Evan_Land]

Love Tacoma, Hate Price

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

I hate it’s requirement of Premium fuel 👎🏻

[@RK-db4oq]

Toyota: Buy a Tundra if you don't like the rear seat space in the Tacoma, and we'll throw in a free replacement engine!

[@glenncole9263]

You were talking about the HD Cummins. I was wondering if you added a catch can? If it’s so useful, why doesn’t it come from the factory?

[@mattojeda6551]

I got my 2024 Ranger Raptor here in Colorado for under msrp.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Alex blamed Frank for tearing up the interior of the Ram. Maybe Alex did the damage :)

[@MikeTindall-r6f]

I think If you replace the Ram as a tow vehicle, I’d like to see GMC or Chevrolet.

[@ShaunsJeep]

Software detune to fix the issue with the diffs by Toyota was a slap in the face. The fact that this channel doesnt hold car companies accountable so they can get press releases and invites is sickening.

[@coltoncj1]

TFL if you see this comment, Alex may want to check out his EGR. Sounds like he’s having constant after treatment issues and EGR can definitely be the root cause of this issues

[@malifestro3319]

Over charging is going to be the death of dealers and enthusiast models. It was one thing when it was a small amount, but now you could expect to see 8-10k on this Ranger. Just insane. And this is before comparing it to barely used vehicles. At 57k you can have a Ranger Raptor (Really 60-65k) or you can spend 48k and get Cummins 2500 with less then 50k miles.

[@elviskalnins1222]

Hi Guys, excellent video, like always! Question what happen with the plan to buy the white Land Cruiser?

[@Lets-do-this-]

The DEF container is 2 1/2 gallon

[@williampisano7573]

When are we getting hybrid ranger ????? Australia 🇦🇺 is getting hybridsssss ranger and plug in 🔌

[@williampisano7573]

But a regular hybrid would make a lot of sense 25-27 mpg.

[@ZachsAdventures290]

Hybrid engines don't belong in trucks

[@gnoxycat]

I would never let anyone drive / ride in my car. However. I would love my cars to pick up the kids at school, take grandma to the Dr., drop me off and pick me up from work. That is where robo taxi would be so amazing!

[@adamogden5212]

I will agree the guys the tune diesels to blow black smoke is bad for the air but the DEF systems ruins the engines it's a wastful system. I will keep my pre DEF Chevy until I stop working lol spending 20k to fix a 15 year old systems for a truck that will be worth 25k is crazy.

[@tomhockman6267]

For value and practical use I prefer my Ridgeline RTL over a Tacoma. The RTL is a better value for the price and only tows 1500 lbs less but has a better payload capacity. I also prefer the smooth ride of the Ridgeline. It's a real enough truck for me.

[@DrKellieOwczarczak]

When are you guys going to get a long-term Silverado-EV? Maybe a 2025 with Extended Range instead of Max Range in order to get the towing capacity?

[@GrenadierOverlander]

Steve's Dad broke the Taco. It was a loose nut behind the steering wheel.

[@christopherhawn831]

Rolling coal isn’t cool. But an engine that is tuned to be cleaner and more efficient WITHOUT emissions devices is cool. Roman, there is a lot you need to learn about diesel and what once was available and what could be available if the EPA was an unpopular tyrant.

[@markspence3750]

Running around HUGE traffic in Sarasota, Florida, on Clark Rd., going on I-75 north & south, it is better to have a full-sized truck instead of a 4Runner/Ranger, all that. Full-sized only. Same MPG.

[@johnsodx]

So, your $100,000 vehicle can tell you where it is, just like Find My Friends on the iPhone you already have for any vehicle your buddy is in?

[@markkiyabu2462]

Where's the deuce & Half Miltary Truck?

[@teotwawki00]

When you add 20k of upgrades to your truck, you'll get ½ to ⅓ back. More like ½. People want a fully loaded and upgraded rig for less. That's just normal with Jeeps, or most 4x4s. You have to sell it privately to get the bucks.... I'm a truck dealer. Believe me.

[@jayhiggins5239]

Year and Mileage matter more. Which is why higher trim levels are a better buy used.

[@stevekniess3665]

You guys are awesome 👍

[@canyonprouduser]

Hey guys, could someone recommend to the midsize truck builders, to make the bed 6 inches smaller, and the cabin extend for crew cab at least 5 in, so that normal people fit in the back?

[@Dusdaddy]

lol...they already make those, and they have a durable bedcover included. It's called a "sedan".

[@1FiftyOverland]

Maybe you have so many Fords because Ford actually does vehicles pretty well.

[@IronmanV5]

What gets me with the Cybertruck is that it gets a lot of hate online. But in person, most of the attention is positive. The Ranger Raptor was the truck I wanted the most until you showed off the Ranger PHEV that Ford won't be bringing over. I would get one in a heartbeat with the Pro Power in the Tremor package.

[@sacramentofoodforest]

13:32 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@teddypierce6871]

Ceramic window film. Should already be installed

[@bernardcarroll1497]

So, is the Ranger with a 2.7 liter engine going to be a 2025 model?

[@2151abell]

you mentioned your Ford Ranger's spray in bed liner was $ 600 ? odd...I have the 2024 FX4 and they (The factory ) charged me $ 495.

[@brianphillips8228]

It might have been added by the dealership for more.

[@1FiftyOverland]

Here we go the best Mid size truck the Ranger Raptor!!!

[@aerynlovell4754]

The best mid-sized truck of 2024 (that TFL didn't own) is the Nissan Frontier. The Frontier with a 4x4 suspension can't carry or haul as much weight (940 lbs) as a 2WD. The Frontier is available in a Pro-X trim (2WD) with an extended (king) cab with a long box and has a payload capacity of 1,590-1,620 lbs, and the Canadian MSRP is between $32,000-34,000.

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@aerynlovell4754 nope. Doesn't even come close to the Ranger Raptor.....next please.

[@AlowisciousMahoney]

Not sure how anyone would try to say “best” given that the Ranger Raptor and Nissan are apples and oranges. If I had enough expendable income and wanted to buy something to have a lot of fun with, Ranger Raptor hands-down. If I wanted something practical and proven with a lot of functionality and a NA engine that should last a long time, at a decent price in the currently insane market, the RR would not be included in my shopping.

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@AlowisciousMahoney the 2.7 and 3.0 ecoboost are proven. Been out for 10 years already.

[@aerynlovell4754]

@@AlowisciousMahoney I never understood comparing vehicles to fruit. To me, a truck is like a Swiss Army knife that you buy because you can only afford one vehicle and need it to do everything. The Ranger Raptor is a "Specialty" truck designed first and foremost for high speed desert running. Then look at the high cost of the Ranger Raptor and after spending only $32,000-34,000 for a 2WD, King Cab, long box Frontier the amount you save can be spent on aftermarket parts to make the Frontier a fun "Prerunner" (like the Ranger Raptor) or customize it for your personal needs. Chris Forsberg has customized a couple of Frontiers and since he has a close relationship with Nissan I hope they get inspired like they did with the Nissan Frontier Forsberg Edition.

[@anotherbrickinthewall1700]

You know, you cursed the Tacoma by naming it "Blu-Berry".

[@ColJonSquall1]

I'd say, given the pattern you've done in the past with HD pickups, you've had a Ford, and you've had a Ram, why not go Chevy or GMC, granted the Ford you had was gas powered.

[@darkendbeing]

1 def is almost entirely useless, 2 a deleted diesel should not roll coal, all it does is help your diesel run cleaner (not choaking on its own soot), it increases horsepower and torque. And the sale truck in canada doesnt have the same bullshit on it.

[@brianphillips8228]

I want an American Ford Ranger Tremor like other countries get right now. I love the raptor, but I'd be happier with a little cheaper version of it that gets better mpgs.

[@Jay-me7gw]

If you build an XLT with the 2.7L and FX4 package its already $45k. A lariat with FX4 is $53k. Where would the Tremor slot in. The Raptor comes standard with all the options like the advanced tow package and all that jazz. Its honestly not a bad price considering.

[@brianphillips8228]

@@Jay-me7gw The U.S. tremor would hopefully have a front and rear locker option like the U.S. raptor and the overseas ranger tremor and raptor. I think the U.S. ranger raptor is the only one that has both a front and rear locker option.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@brianphillips8228 that’s fine but it would cost almost as much as a raptor I bet unless you are building it based on an XLT. And then, in that case, why not just make a lower trim of the raptor with cloth seats for 50k, like Chevy does with the Colorado ZR2

[@brianphillips8228]

@@Jay-me7gw You're probably right about the price in the U.S. I have watched a few australian reviews and they have said the price difference was enough that it made it worth the purchase there.

[@1FiftyOverland]

It is most definitely cybercar

[@Lets-do-this-]

DPF issues

[@Lets-do-this-]

I disagree. The four-cylinder is not OK in a truck. It’s your truck for God sake. It needs more. But that’s just my opinion.

Not a Cybertruck but a CyberFlop.

[@danielherrera5131]

I agree these “trucks” are junk and not meant for towing especially with that aluminum frame that’s way too thin

[@1FiftyOverland]

Roman hearing you talk about whistindiesel is exactly why his videos are awesome. Im a car/truck guy, but at the end of the day vehicles are over priced status symbols

[@Bonanzaking]

They’ve always been overpriced or expensive. Although prices haven’t really changed by historical standards. Nominally the number has gone up because inflation happens every year and compounds over time. But in real terms most vehicles have remained about the same price. And quadcab trucks are cheaper than the original ones made way back in the Great Depression, they used to be about 8 years wages back then if you were at the bottom of the totem pole income wise. A modern quadcab with all the bells and whistles is 2-3 years wages. I own a mustang my father bought new back in 1971. He paid 3,319$ or as he put it 2 years wages at the time if you were at the bottom of the income spectrum. If I look at a modern one same trim and everything well what do you know still roughly 2 years wages.

[@TFLtalk]

What has that to do with destruction porn? How is he making trucks less expensive by destroying them and in the process making himself rich?

[@chris01922]

​@TFLtalk Easy fellas...doesn't appear this is making you poor.

[@Bonanzaking]

@@TFLtalk that destruction porn is useful. The cyber truck got bricked while the F150 was still driveable and could get a person home. Whistlindiesel destructive tendencies is the civilian equivalent of a marine grunt when new gear is tested and abused by the military to see whether it’ll hold up in conditions that can’t quite be replicated in a manufacturer’s facility. Difference is he gets paid far better for his destruction than a grunt. His destruction porn should make the fancy engineers with their degrees think huh, I didn’t think of that because I didn’t think anyone would be dumb enough to do that. That being said I have cringed in pain seeing him destroy some of the older trucks. You said it yourself, you take pride in taking care of your stuff. Not everyone is like you especially since most people have the perception of a car as an appliance nor do you do the type of work like most tradesmen with a truck like mobile mechanic etc do. Idk what kinda trucks you have on the roads in Colorado but in Los Angeles you see plenty of old beat up and abused trucks, paint nearly gone, more dents than the surface of the moon and occasional battle scars from fender benders or a bed side impact, yet still working whether it be hauling landscapers equipment, independent mechanics, plumbers, and electricians etc. As those trucks get older and cycle through the used market some people will probably think huh which of these won’t get bricked.

[@YasmineRhodarmer-i4j]

Sabryna Gateway

[@richardnottelmann58]

I think a Chevy Silverado or GMC Sierra with a Allison transmission and a duramax would be a great next truck.

[@goadventuregoexplore8588]

You know why your insurance rates have doubled America? Well, electric cars are so expensive to repair, insurance companies have to increase insurance across the board to cover the cost. Isn’t that awesome?

[@Jay-me7gw]

What do EV repairs have to do with insurance? Why would replacing the windshield or a body panel on my Chevy Bolt cost more than a regular car?

[@abilityboatworks5024]

I'd not buy a lifted truck used unless it was a factory lift.

[@nathanlewis3462]

Toyota put you in a dangerous situation with a brand new truck, toyota and Toyota alone are responsible for that, if they dont want to be put on blast than build a quality product! I'd love to see how they would have handled it if it was joe blows truck.

[@TodoNFamilia]

I have question For Andrew if you have the ability to choice a truck for you again to update the Colorado for trims that you missing ?or you change for other truck in mind Medium Sizes segment and who is the model and configuration...for you personal use thanks

[@TodoNFamilia]

I hope you can explain way you change you mind....if you choice other truck...abut Colorado if that's happen

[@gqami]

Funny how you guys crab about being bumped in line for a vehicle, or complain that you’re in line and not getting one and yet admit you jump people to get a Tacoma. Only if it is beneficial it’s ok. Got it. Great video guys nevertheless.

[@michaelptm2269]

They also promote the companies vehicles. The car manufacturers benefit a lot more than TFL IMO.

[@J.Young808]

They have gotten a lot more brown nose than the early days so they can get flown to vehicle launches & drives.

[@michaelptm2269]

@@J.Young808 i guess, If your not first your last haha

[@GA-250RX]

Did the EPA payoff u guys now too?!? 🤣😂🤣

[@kieransteele7223]

But if you are gunna sell it… Let me Know lol

[@Lets-do-this-]

New taco is Crap I hate all of these manufacturers are going to four-cylinder turbo I want nothing to do with it.

[@danthompson1467]

I’m very sure Roman was having a few yuppie pissy fits with this video time for his retirement .

[@mav4516]

Roman, if y’all cared about the environment so much, why do yall talk highly of EVs? EVs don’t hit net neutral before the batteries need to be replaced

[@TFLtalk]

Nope, please stop passing along Fox News talking points. The facts are EVs use more energy to build but much less energy over their lifetime. Unlike your phone’s battery EV batteries don’t need to be replaced because they are climate controlled. There are 15-year-old Teslas running around with 90 percent of their battery still usable. These are facts, not opinions or news stories designed to make you watch more or click more.

[@J.Young808]

I drove Uber/Lyft with a BMW 328d diesel and switched to a Model Y. I could go further and it cost me less to operate the diesel (had to charge everyday sometimes 2x, only filled diesel every 7-10 days). Plus the electrical grid can barely support the current load (California asking people not to charge EV’s). My Aunt lived in Studio City, CA last and all around L.A. her whole adult (1968 freshman year at USC) life until she move home to Honolulu in 2013. She was always talking about rolling Brown Outs. My Maternal Grandmother lived in Hollister, CA and mentioned Brown Outs often, she moved to Ft. Collins, CO in 1989. I am currently in a 2023 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 Access Cab after Lemon Law’ing my Model Y due to the A/C breaking 3 times in the first 6months, the first time was 22 days after I picked it up.

[@mav4516]

@@TFLtalk funny that you say fox news when it’s not…it’s called doing your own research without any sort of media intervention, fox is just as biased as liberal outlets.

[@1FiftyOverland]

My f150 fits in my garage.

[@TFLtalk]

You got a big garage

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@TFLtalk perhaps, they don't don't build houses like they used to. My house was build in 85.

[@leechburglights]

😂 my f150 doesn't fit. House built in 1973 😢 new big garage being built this year.

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@leechburglights what? My garage isn't that big. Maybe because houses in my area were designed with the washer and dryer in the garage. To me it's a standard 2 car garage, although it is bigger than my buddies which is a newer house.

[@J.Young808]

My Grandpa built the house I live in, in the 1950’s. The carport barely fits a 2017 Tacoma DCSB and 2021 Prius. Grandma’s 1995 Tercel 2-door and 1995 xtra cab Tacoma fit much better.

[@deltondecoster1305]

A deleted diesel with the right tune isn't gonna make barely any smoke, and its also going to get over 20 mpg. I like how you get all into the environmental bullshit right after you complain about all the plastic and cardboard they use to contain the def fluid thats supposed to save the environment 😂

[@1FiftyOverland]

Roman this has ALWAYS been Toyota. They are NOT as good as every says.

[@brucesmith8486]

Thumbs down since you can’t see how many you get.

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@brucesmith8486 found the toyota fanboy 😆🙄

[@danav3387]

Pretty soon, the EPA will be rained in hopefully eliminated

[@deltondecoster1305]

"Rolling coal" most people dont care about that. Most people care about having a long-lasting, reliable diesel engine. Emission systems take all of that away. So it's not about blowing smoke. And the amount of smoke that a single truck is gonna make isn't going to affect anyone or anything. I like your channel mostly for the other guys on it. But you sound like the biggest snowflake sometimes. And I'd like to know what the difference between the white 12 valve cummins on the channel blowing smoke and a deleted diesel blowing smoke?

[@secondcreekworkshop3908]

Speaking of rolling coal, my proposal for protecting the environment is outlawing automotive test channels driving up the ike gauntlet endlessly that the manufacturer has already done, outlawing auto testing channels from flying on airplanes that routinely "roll coal" requiring automotive test channels to publish their monthly fuel usage, we need to protect our environment. PS I do not own a diesel truck, I have never owned a diesel truck and all three of my vehicles have functioning emissions systems. PPS. This is satire except for my vehicle statement.

[@brucesmith8486]

Bit of advice for you Roman. Probably not a good idea to endlessly shit on your audience. You are starting to make your channel unwatchable.

[@jayhiggins5239]

There's a channel out there for you.

[@mterakedis]

Who did he shit on?

[@billybobbob3003]

'' I LOVE THE FACT I BRING IT HOME AND JUST PLUG IT IN'' lol this comment from influencers shows how out of touch these people are the majority of americans dont live in freaking houses with their own wall charger lol.

[@garysarratt1]

Millions do.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@garysarratt1 evs are impractical to the majority of americans period.

[@TFLtalk]

We’re betting you’ve never driven an EV let along charged one🤔

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TFLtalk Enjoy the EMI RADIATION.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TFLtalk electric vehicles produce tons and tons of electromagnetic radiation its like sitting inside a microwave enjoy being cooked without realizing it. its not good for am radio muchless you.

[@bikerevolutiontv]

Crap

[@1FiftyOverland]

The lesson here? Toyota isnt as great as everyone touts. So you didn't HAVE TO call Toyota. You WANTED to call them.

[@leechburglights]

And they are covering all the issues.

[@ravensfootball52]

Has any brand released a full redesign without any issues?

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@leechburglights just like every auto manufacturer does nothing special there.

[@1FiftyOverland]

@@ravensfootball52 no. But that's not the point.

Drive an electric truck and dont worry about pollution....

[@leechburglights]

😂 more pollution to build an ev

[@AlowisciousMahoney]

Electric vehicles, in the US anyway, produce as much or more pollution than vehicles with internal combustion engines. The production of the electricity that charges the batteries produces significant pollution as does the mining of the metals that go into the batteries. “EVs produce less pollution” is propaganda.

[@gnoxycat]

@@AlowisciousMahoney If you drive a Tesla Model 3 for 30k miles, then set it on fire, recycling nothing. You are still better off than driving a Toyota Camry over 30k miles. You have to mine, refine, transport, pump and burn 100lbs of oil every week to keep that Camry running. It adds up quick!

[@danthompson1467]

Check your balls at the door Never

[@AlowisciousMahoney]

@@gnoxycat , the aspects that you mention need to be included in conversation, yes. But while I chose to chime in myself above, I for one do not anticipate the KZbin comments section getting us very far in our differences in understanding. What I would need to see is an non-biased, in-depth study of the overall emissions created over the life of a typical EV vs a typical ICE vehicle, and I have not seen many of those that appear to me to be either entirely legitimate or thorough enough. The couple of video presentations that seemed to me be the closest echo what I shared initially. I would anticipate that in a country such as Norway with most electricity generation from renewables, or France with a lot of nuclear, that the overall emissions created by an EV would be considerably less, as you contend. But in most other areas of the world I am very skeptical based on what I have read. I would genuinely appreciate if you have any references to share that include more in-depth analyses on the subject, as I would likely enjoy those. It does seem to me that going forward, as the battery technology improves (assuming some things such as the necessary metals remaining sufficiently abundant) and IF most countries are able to move to mostly clean energy, that EVs may likely be the future. But I’m not entirely sure that is all a given. Even Toyota has essentially stated that they are not sold on EVs being the future.

[@texandy89]

just get a diesel truck that has no DEF like trucks from the 80s 90s or even 70s and then you do not have to worry about DEF ever.

[@Arkansasfestus]

Feller youns know what kind of engine ram got in their 2500 ..gas that is

[@Lets-do-this-]

The DEF container is 2 1/2 gallon