That new toyota is horrible. They need to go back to the 5.7
@doug61913 ай бұрын
As if all of them aren't self-destructing. 🙄
@Voodoo-cz5hk3 ай бұрын
@@doug6191truth…the issue is on 2022-2023 Toyota…not 2024 Tundras
@justinstiff56413 ай бұрын
Ha!
@plmn933 ай бұрын
@@Voodoo-cz5hk Plenty of reports of it happening on the '24s. Toyota appears to be doing the minimum required by law right now because they don't know how to fix it.
@vonJaerschky3 ай бұрын
What's funny is the payload of my 1989 Jeep Comanche is 1,478lbs.
@MrRockyko11 күн бұрын
I had a 1990 jeep Comanche I miss that truck
@shanecox20321 күн бұрын
I wish they would just bring back basic trucks where you could do most work without having to remove the cab
@M8Stealth27 күн бұрын
GMC exhaust note, with the rotary knob set to sport, wins that category. Make V8s Great Again!
@martinneumann93453 ай бұрын
But will the rear window seal fail on RAM and corrode the RF module, and take 2 months to get parts?
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
My customer had the rear window seal fail and mildew his entire interior from Rain
@tonyc74353 ай бұрын
Love my F-150. Love it even more because it was made during the chip shortage and doesnt have auto start/stop wooo!!
@jreyman3 ай бұрын
The best truck manufacturer is, was, and always will be GM [GMC/Chevrolet]. The problem is the astronomical price of modern trucks.
@diablo815883 ай бұрын
Explain your blind loyalty.
@wilmarbarrick31943 ай бұрын
11:41 The sucking noise is the sound of your money leaving your wallet.
@RickFerris703 ай бұрын
That’s hilarious!! 🤣
@thegonz78333 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@carlosalba77903 ай бұрын
Read this as he said it 😆
@earlthomas53543 ай бұрын
wells here is the bottom line ( in my opinion) ALL !!!!! manufacturers are suffering terribly in the reliability department. and at these current prices. SHAME ON ALL OF THEM
@atg13383 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@Fly-aaron923 ай бұрын
They're not "suffering" they're making them to fall apart on purpose. Planned obsolescence it's horrible. Especially like you said when the prices are this high. Either make cheap crap vehicles and get pushed out of the market, or make good reliable quality vehicles that you can charge a premium for and ppl will willingly pay for that reliability. That's the whole reason Toyota ever got a foot hold in the US to begin with. 🤦
@TheAudi5853 ай бұрын
@@Fly-aaron92 as that is true if you look at stellantis for the ram factories, the manufactures are suffering, what’s the CEO is doing to them is terrible, I own a 2018 ram but at that time they were better now they are literally coming off the lines with problems before even being shipped to dealerships… the UAW workers are even suffering still, if you look up with the CEOs done to those as well it’s just terrible while he made a $38-$39 million profit less than a year while under paying the workers having the factories be gross and not giving a shit about products when it leaves the line while residing at the factory still.
@thesandman7753 ай бұрын
He's not wrong
@mikexyz74613 ай бұрын
The problem is the EPA drove them to make unreliable trucks and the manufacturers bowed down to it instead of fighting to the supreme court. Why would they though, by submitting to the EPA overreach, the manufacturers get to make and sell more vehicles because they have short lifespans.
@dancover32493 ай бұрын
$85K MSRP That kind of money Won't work for me
@lecourtierduquartier31473 ай бұрын
They are 120k up here in Montreal 😂
@DobyDuke3 ай бұрын
Buy an older model and rebuild it
@MrTonaluv3 ай бұрын
Did they mention the price? I must have missed it. When was that?
@tylerbuck9347Ай бұрын
@@DobyDuke sounds like a plan to me
@justsomeguy697Ай бұрын
85k would be for a highest trim lvl all the options truck. They start at right under 40k. Most sold version is around 54k. I sell trucks for a living. Also no one pays sticker in past few years. 23s are over 10k off. The 24s are 5 to 7k off.
@dentman673 ай бұрын
All great trucks. It's a shame that nearly no one can afford them. Let's see, retire comfortably, or buy a new truck.
@atg13383 ай бұрын
So buying a truck is gonna stop you from retiring in comfort? Sounds like you didn't have a good plan🤣🤣
@cooverbennett43833 ай бұрын
@@atg1338 at least he has a plan. Unlike most today complaining about not affording a house, student loan debt and "Living Wage" Some of the nicest vehicles I've seen belong to broke A$$ fools
@TheCapn233 ай бұрын
Uh, people can afford them because they're selling. YOU can't afford them.
@DobyDuke3 ай бұрын
@@TheCapn23people are also not making payments, 2023s still on the lot and 0% interest deals in near future! Watch!
@bbouch57713 ай бұрын
@@TheCapn23You mean the bank can afford them
@cooverbennett43833 ай бұрын
1 thing i actually totally agree with GM on. If you're towing more than 8500lbs get a bigger truck.
@RJKYEG3 ай бұрын
I used to tow heavy crap all the time at work with 1 tons, then years later at a different job I pulled a trailer with a Ram 1500 (with the Hemi), and I was like, "This sucks."
@thesoldiermedic3 ай бұрын
I agree. No way I’d max it out on these trucks. I’d consider it for short distances but no way I’d go any major distance pulling 10k with any of those
@2ss20013 ай бұрын
They can handle up to 13,200 idk where tf these guys got that GMC without any towing features
@Ringmacher3 ай бұрын
See, I’m right on that edge. Towing a 7500 lbs camper with heavy tongue weight that takes away from GVWR.
@tralfazsteamboat56953 ай бұрын
@@Ringmacherexactly. Drivers think because the manufacturer claims a certain tow rating, they can pull that max weight. They don’t take into account how much payload they have with said weight. Payload ratings are based on dry weight. Fuel alone adds 150-220 depending on tank size.
@Cruzer1363 ай бұрын
We need another review in 10 years to see how all the trucks have held up
@OverKill4403 ай бұрын
no rust on the ford ;)
@ramrider14533 ай бұрын
@@OverKill440Well there differentials will 😂
@mikexyz74613 ай бұрын
All will be in junkyards in 6 years. They are only designed to last the 5 years of an initial lease period
@jimbov233 ай бұрын
There's a new RAM that was just delivered to my local dealer that has the bed liner de-laminating already after sitting in the sun for a few days. Probably a one off issue but jeez the truck is $83k...come on
@1FiftyOverland3 ай бұрын
@mikexyz7461 really? How come my 2015 2.7l ecobeast f150 with 156,000 miles is still going strong?
@nordlandak68533 ай бұрын
I have a 23 Ram , but I’ll buy trucks with dipsticks. Making an engine without one is as dumb as an off-road truck without tow hooks.
@richardalexander18383 ай бұрын
So new synthetic oils last 7k-9k, so just continue to change your oil every 5k and you'll be ok. You guys with these dipsticks, lolol
@GusFromDaysPast3 ай бұрын
Yeah, checking fluids in your vehicle is silly. Best to leave it to the dealerships who never lie to customers.
@karlschauff79893 ай бұрын
@@richardalexander1838 They removed it for a reason. They want to hide oil consumption behind a digital display. And going 7k+ miles between oil changes causes many of the reliability and oil consumption issues today. The oil might have life left, but it's loaded with the diesel like soot that GDI engines generate and that additives do little to negate.
@eblamo3 ай бұрын
@@GusFromDaysPastAny issue with oil in the engine is covered under warranty. Why else would they not have a dipstick
@kelviskelvis71403 ай бұрын
@@richardalexander1838 "You guys with these dipsticks" lol too - RAM REV and be done with it.
@JuanBen02203 ай бұрын
My thing is Nathan keeps talking about seats but it’s a lariat versus top trim gmc and ram should’ve got a kr or platinum if you wanted to compare comfort
@JuanSanchez-qh6rl27 күн бұрын
Was looking for this exact comment 😅
@tactical_potato813 ай бұрын
I've got to say that out of all the truck videos you guys produce I think the two of you make some of the best content. Solid video guys
@Youngmechanical3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Keep Roman in the office.
@chucklaux81973 ай бұрын
All good. But Im bothered by the lack of oil dipstick in the Ram. Sorry but I dont trust a computer to tell me how my oil is doing. I prefer to see and touch the oil. Old school if you will
@timothykeith13673 ай бұрын
There will probably be an aftermarket dipstick
@BC083 ай бұрын
The Hurricane is based on the Alfa Romeo Giorgio 4-cylinder. It’s a true Fiat engine. The Hurricane will prove to be junk long term. Mark my words
@HemiJB913 ай бұрын
@@BC08hemi will be back in 5 years.
@BC083 ай бұрын
@@HemiJB91 Seriously doubt it. The production line tooling is going away - to bring it back and meet new regulation would cost a (a few) hundred million at this point.
@HemiJB913 ай бұрын
@@BC08 come back to this comment in 5 years. 🤡
@waynerhodes54563 ай бұрын
I miss my dads 95 Ford Ranger 4.0. Couldn't kill it. We tried but she just smiled and kept running. 😂
@mbukukanyau3 ай бұрын
It was not professional grade
@plmn933 ай бұрын
Here's the thing. When I bought my truck, I drove them all and decided on a Ram. But when I went to actually buy, Ford was dealing and Ram was not. So I ended up with an F-150 and have not regretted it. The bottom line is that all these trucks are great vehicles so I would prioritize price and the quality of your local servicing dealer above just about anything else.
@omardevonlittle38173 ай бұрын
Bingo. While under warranty there's no discernable difference. After that point I'd trust the Coyote and the 5.7 Hemi most.
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
@@omardevonlittle3817Any naturally aspirated is a more known factor; the 5.7 in the Tundra was great too. That being said, we don’t know how reliable the new Hurricane or updated EcoBoost engines will be in 10+ years; history shows that turbos are more likely to have issues, but those turbos have also been improved to increase reliability, and only time will tell the real story.
@inkwellunderground37463 ай бұрын
Great way to look at things. Very practical. Hopefully you don't pull up next to a Ram and have buyers regret over a few thousand dollars.
@plmn933 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 According to anecdotal evidence on the forums over the past 10 years, the 2.7 appears to be Ford's most reliable F-150 engine. I love mine. If your towing needs are modest I highly recommend it. And to be clear, it tows up to its rated limit better than the 5.0 and nearly as well as the 3.5. It just maxes out sooner than they do. The 5.0 has had some pretty serious issues. Not sure if they worked those out yet, but now they added cylinder deactivation, which is probably going to offset any improvements. But as Toyota has shown us, no modern truck is a sure thing when it comes to reliability. May as well just buy why you like and not worry about what you can't control.
@jimsteinway6953 ай бұрын
Same here. Got a f-150 tremor. 2022. So excited still. The only thing that keeps me from driving it is my 911
@hawkman3023 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion, I would rather buy an old truck and rebuild it. I am a simple person and hate touch screens, cameras, and all the junk that jacks up the prices that I would have to pay to repair in the future. If the companies came out with a basic work truck that had the power, powered windows, basic radio/cd player with knobs and buttons, ac/heat, no engine cut off, simple tailgate, I would be game. Get reliable items that last vs tech that is not needed.
@markhavelka49243 ай бұрын
You, sir need a 2017 F150 XL, because you just described my 90-year-old dad’s truck.
@hawkman3023 ай бұрын
@@markhavelka4924 I will take a square body Chevy. Fords don’t have great engines. Or 1995 2500 Silverado
@marcpomaville94293 ай бұрын
Ram made the ram classic which was kinda that idea. Idk if they still do
@hawkman3023 ай бұрын
@@marcpomaville9429 I have never heard of that.
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
your statement is moronic. Prices haven't changed.
@mvcharisma3 ай бұрын
Any of these will be better than having a tundra with a blown engine 😂
@rameylewis77303 ай бұрын
or a landcruiser LC200 with a fubar transmission. Toyota sucks!!
@BC083 ай бұрын
The GM will likely smoke lifters then main bearings before 100K
@Chijo153 ай бұрын
@@rameylewis7730I take my chance with Toyota I always own Chevy gmc and ford and al of them have problems with engine transmission at early age
@OtisFlint3 ай бұрын
@@BC08 My buddys lifters collapsed at 8k miles, had to wait a month for an engine.
@BC083 ай бұрын
@@OtisFlint Very, very common
@phillysdetailinggarage3 ай бұрын
Yes they all are having major reliability issues however, I still prefer a good old V8. No need to replace expensive turbos and, the V8 just sounds better.
@JRs-guitars3 ай бұрын
With the prices on these new trucks, how have these manufacturers gotten away with not providing better/longer warranties???? They literally have the same warranties that they had 20 years ago.
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
and the cost is literally the same as 20 years ago.
@GreenMountain5653 ай бұрын
Free market. People need to speak with their wallets and not buy them. Only way to force the manufacturers to offer better pricing/incentives
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
@@GreenMountain565 see above
@Gasguzzler762 ай бұрын
The industry is moving to customers leasing over buying that is how they can sell them at a high price with low warranty. your payments are low and you give it back in 3 years when the warranty is up.
@conejoshiker31652 ай бұрын
This is a great point!!!
@marcolcorreia3 ай бұрын
Sorry but I stopped watching when you said top end cost wise trucks. Not interested in spending $80k on a truck.
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
you realize this is a channel which does mostly new pickup reviews? You should only watch Dave Ramsey so he can preach you are a poor worthless peasant and you should live like one.
@raywong54543 ай бұрын
Took my RAM in for service yesterday at the local CDJR dealership. Noticed the challenger Hell cat on the show room. 89,000 plus a 9,995.00 mark up sticker. Had a sold sign on the front windshield.. Someone desperate for that challenger.. Hope that they negotiated for at least. MSRP!!!
@bobdennis48013 ай бұрын
The biggest thing to me is you can get the PowerBoost in lower trim levels. The HO Hurricane is Limited and above. The 6.2 has gotten better availability but not quite as easily available as the PowerBoost.
@RAD_DAD_863 ай бұрын
I’m keeping my ‘22 RAM Hemi for a long time, but if I had to buy a new truck I’d honestly go for an F150 with the 5.0 V8.
@stevennathaniel41913 ай бұрын
I'm old fashioned I want my truck to sound like a truck
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
Just get a Chevy or ford V8 delete the 4 cylinder mode and put a Boris exhaust on it then
@blairabbott33293 ай бұрын
Can't afford all that crap
@tsu.cameron3 ай бұрын
make more money
@cwqrpportable3 ай бұрын
Why are you here? Get to work!
@tsu.cameron3 ай бұрын
@@cwqrpportable haha im at work right now good point
@cwqrpportable3 ай бұрын
@@tsu.cameron You have a good day. Prices have gotten crazy for everything.
@tsu.cameron3 ай бұрын
@@cwqrpportable thanks
@johntuminello52063 ай бұрын
When repairs are need GM hands down cheaper to fix.period. From a mechanics view.
@jpdi3 ай бұрын
I hope GM keeps the diesels and v8s. No one wants stupid unreliable hybrids and small turbo 6 engines
@richardtellez00tellez773 ай бұрын
America would say differently
@richardtellez00tellez773 ай бұрын
#1 truck sold
@jpdi2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 #1 truck sold would be GM. Chevy and gmc sell more than ford do. Ford has been in decline for last 5 years since they moved to these smaller engines and electric. GMC and Chevy use same engines, same drivetrains, same parts, just different interiors, but made by same company. So America seems to be buying v8s and diesels more than stupid unrealible turbo 6 and electric trucks
@jpdi2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 that schooling is free. You are welcome
@jpdi2 ай бұрын
@@richardtellez00tellez77 830k GM trucks sold 2023 vs 750k ford trucks and the gap is growing.
@Uncle_Fester243 ай бұрын
I live in Michigan in the rust belt I will drive an alumiduty till the cows come home. Some kind of fluid film on the frame and some components and my truck from the bottom up looks brand new. Trucks are too much money to have them rust away.
@rhekman3 ай бұрын
Oof, my 95 Ranger has a 1600lb payload capacity. Not to mention a bed I can actually reach into from the sides.
@TheBeatenPaths3 ай бұрын
I miss my '07 Ranger badly.
@caryw02103 ай бұрын
That era of Ford Ranger was so good. I miss my 2000.
@gpaje3 ай бұрын
It also didn't have all the safety equipments, all the leather, all the gizmos and things that weigh down modern vehicles. You want big payload, get a 2500 or larger.
@johnp29313 ай бұрын
Andre and Nathan are an unbeatable duo! Anytime they're in a video, you know it's going to be entertaining and informative!
@roco227313 ай бұрын
What about Roman and him talking out of his ass with all his opinionated gibberish? Hahaha!
@donnyadams9052Ай бұрын
I tested all 3 recently while looking to trade in my 70k mile, 2021 RAM Rebel. Still thought RAM did it best but Chevy was the only one wiling to deal. Ford and RAM offered around 5k off and Chevy offered $13,250. It’s a fairly loaded 66k MSRP truck and I’m very happy with my decision. Truth be told, they are all great trucks and whoever gives the best deal, will sell the most trucks.
@DenDzhura3 ай бұрын
Awesome review guys! Owning Ford hybrid 7.2KW for two years. The best truck that makes me happy and smiling each time I drive this THING. Stop thinking about any other cars at all. Bought additional warranty up to 5 years or 75k miles. Will see what we have in 2027!
@JJJ5.73 ай бұрын
Who cares about 0 to 60. More important - Reliability. Durability. Towing capacity. Driving comfort.
@kevinclayton22462 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@stephanietyler6019Ай бұрын
Agree
@willoster80833 ай бұрын
The best truck award should be determined with the truck up in the air, looking at the under body and quality of the build. Not what features they have that will break in two years.
@spec19233 ай бұрын
And 150,000 real world miles with service records to get longevity data, not just warranty period. Show who has the least planned obsolescence built in.
@GusFromDaysPast3 ай бұрын
One of the best vehicles to buy for options is a Range Rover. The worst vehicle to buy based on reliability is a 1 year old Range Rover.😂
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
you shouldn't reproduce because your post makes absolutely no sense
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
@@spec1923another moronic post. 150K miles about the designated lifetime.
@spec19233 ай бұрын
@@davidporter7051 you can accept but I do not have to. I have always put around 200,000 with minor repairs.
@brentworls85093 ай бұрын
Interested Hurricane engine in the Ram, but since I have owned my F150 2.7, I've been converted to a Ford guy. I love the standard features on the Fords. 36 Gallon tanks should be the norm.
@BC083 ай бұрын
The Hurricane is based on the Alfa Romeo Giorgio 4-cylinder. It’s a true Fiat engine. The Hurricane will prove to be junk. Mark my words
@ericj8103 ай бұрын
The hurricane ho. Gonna drink the gas. And if you tow with it, its gonna guzzle the gas. Tow over 7k don't go 1/2 ton start at 3/4 ton and diesel engine. The chevy 1500 3.0 diesel is a great truck but heavy loads I go 3/4 duramax at 975lbs of torque.
@brentworls85093 ай бұрын
@@ericj810 Ain't nobody buyin the HO. The base one is the what's going to get used, and no need to buy a HD truck if you don't tow all the time. The standard 3.0 will be fine. Buncha guys lying to their wives and stealing from their kids' futures to buy 3/4 and 1-ton trucks for weekend playing.
@Steve-yr5vi16 күн бұрын
I agree with you there, I love my F150, and that 36 gallon tank is nice. I have the 3.5 EB with 68k on it, now I average about 22 mpg per tank in mixed driving.
@monroe224529 күн бұрын
Its always "best" based on performance and options. Here's a suggestion = why dont they test for the best based on QUALITY? Interior, exterior fit and finish, type and quality of materials used, paint, etc...
@Falcon-mc5fs3 ай бұрын
If there's a coyote, that's the truck I'm picking
@BC083 ай бұрын
At near sea level, the 5.0 F150 is best overall half-ton going.
@roco227313 ай бұрын
@@BC08Absolutely!
@LakeNipissing2 ай бұрын
@@BC08 Have a 2017 F-150 XLT 2WD Supercab 5.0 V8 , 6 Spd with 220,000 miles. Oil changes, brakes and tires. Nothing replaced under the hood. VERY reliable, durable and surprisingly fast truck. 4,150 LBS. No trouble to leave a BMW M series in the dust. Only complaint about the truck, is it is very basic and plain interior, but it was only 33,600 $ off the lot new. Oh, and the entire wiper system is junk (arms, transmission).
@gongshow203 ай бұрын
@29:37; camera truck didn't show being left of center for the lane
@mrsteve43133 ай бұрын
The grill of the GMC is ugly but the 6.2 sounds the best, sure wish Ram would've put their 6.4/392 in the 1500, the car motor at least in the luxury top of the line or express trim, one's not for work unlike the 2500.
@paulwilson1193Ай бұрын
I couldn't disagree more on that new grill. I think it looks fantastic. To each their own 🎉.
@zTimmyz02443 ай бұрын
24 GMC Sierra all day
@Groot5643 ай бұрын
My father worked for ford for 42 years! He just passed away and he was dissatisfied with fords quality. He still has his 82 F150 no rust and has the 351 Win. I drive it 3 or 4 times a month. They had grease fittings always keep up with.
@k.walters62683 ай бұрын
I purchased a new 1980 F150 Lariat for a little over $8K, a significant price jump from the '75 model I bought new for $4K. The '75 was a base model with a V8, standard transmission, and no AC, while the '80 had a V8, automatic transmission, and AC; both had power steering, power brakes, but lacked power windows or locks, and were 2WD, long bed. In snow country, Fords suffered from rust issues, with salt on the roads corroding the body, chassis, and underparts. The '80 had better quality than the '75, but Ford's overall quality wasn't the best. Now, I own a 1971 F100, which was well-made for its time and remains clean and rust-free, having spent its life in the south. Ford's rust problems were notorious in the late '80s and '90s. Perhaps this was a source of dissatisfaction for your father, along with the introduction of more plastic components, problematic engines like the 5.4 3V in my 2005 model, and uncomfortable seats. However, the newer models seem to be improving in quality. Given their cost, one would hope for continued enhancements in Ford's quality. It's curious whether the trucks they manufacture today will last 50 years like their predecessors.
@Mach1413 ай бұрын
As long as repair parts are available it can last 100 years
@karlp.1096Ай бұрын
I am sorry that your father passed away! I had an 82 and 95 F150 with the straight six and manual transmissions. They just ran and never needed anything except the regular oil changes and routine maintenance. I wish that I still had them. I drove the 95 for over 20 years and that inline six was still as smooth running as new. I agree with you dad about quality issues at Ford! I have always driven Fords and love the American story of the company. For the first time in my life I own a vehicle that isn't a Ford. I was tired of the vehicle recalls, the wait for parts to repair the recall, and the recalls to fix the previously fixed recall. I also didn't care for Ford going woke and promoting lifestyles that are not natural. I wrote a letter to Ford and told them to concentrate on making a vehicle that doesn't need to be recalled and stop the wokeness! I never heard from them and I currently don't drive a Ford either!
@thesandman7753 ай бұрын
I love how the RAM has 10k+ towing capacity with an 1100 pound payload. Talk about nothing but marketing non sense on that towing number 😂. And it also sounds like a Hyundai when it revs
@smc13773 ай бұрын
Sir, my V8 Hyundai sounds WAY better than that when it revs.
@Bradimus13 ай бұрын
If you have to ask it to change lanes...the steering wheel is already right there. What is the point?
@hwirtwirt45003 ай бұрын
It's a demo.
@JimmyMakingitwork3 ай бұрын
Waiting to see $70,000 1/2 ton trucks with no recalls or class action lawsuits on them.
@Steve-yr5vi14 күн бұрын
You might be surprised to learn there are law firms that exist solely to file lawsuits against the big three. Why? Because they have a lot of money and when you complain about why cars and trucks cost so much, much like healthcare, the steady stream of frivolous lawsuits add to the cost.
@Supertramp013 ай бұрын
I can tell you its not ford... My 22 was riddled with issues so i got rid of it... My current 23 has been in the shoo for 40 days for transmission issues and they cant find a fix...truck has 4100 miles on it... i have filed a lemon law on it.. DONT BUY AND F150 WITH A 10 SPEED... I will be upgrading to a super duty with a better "somewhat" 10 speed..
@alannoel4893 ай бұрын
Towing at 11k lbs for the ram with a payload of 1100 lbs is wild. You can't even drive the truck if your tongue weight is at the recommended 10%.
@dirtbagliberalsnake57293 ай бұрын
If you towing anywhere near 11k pounds get a HD
@TMJ323 ай бұрын
If you're towing anything over 8,500lbs you shouldn't have a half ton in the first place
@hellkitty10143 ай бұрын
But towing 11750 with 1200 on an F150 is ok?
@dirtbagliberalsnake57293 ай бұрын
@@hellkitty1014 maybe for a year or two then it all falls apart
@timothykeith13673 ай бұрын
GM, Ford and Ram might be forced to cooperate
@JordanOutdoors-o5n3 ай бұрын
GM has and always will be the best cuz they are keeping real man trucks unlike ford and dodge.
@JarmelSingsKaraoke3 ай бұрын
🔥Thanks Andre, Nathan and the TFL Camera Ninja... ☕☕ Happy Thursday
@nastynate43 ай бұрын
Sounds like an angry Cuisinart lol
@cjsaint093 ай бұрын
I have one and unfortunately it does lol
@rutilorocha34573 ай бұрын
I go for a v8 100% never tink about a turbo charger nop nop nop. V8 all the way boys 😂
@gcovete16423 ай бұрын
I run my old 2019 hemi on the Ram 1500 running fine towing and having low maintenance cost, does the towing I need and the reliability is there. There might be more good trucks out there but I will stay with my old school engine, low cost and this is all about, it is not 0-_60 or sometimes else is what you need to pat to keep it on the road.
@DH-hp7nv3 ай бұрын
Well for the sake of this comparison i would say pick your poison. They all suck. Oh sure there is plenty of fancy gadgets, nice plush leather, and more cameras than a movie production, but do you want the complexity of turbos or the unreliability of cylinder deactivation. I noticed there were none of the problems highlighted here. Bottom line in my book all these new trucks regardless if the make are cheap made trash that will kill you on prices.
@ryanolson82953 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a video on issues, reliability, negatives etc. I have a 2023 6.2 and am seeing premature engine wear, its hard on fuel, has poor range, and uses premium.
@randykuta51463 ай бұрын
They are as honest as they can be, but if they want to keep getting test vehicles from the manufacturers, they need to say something positive. They were less than glowing about a Subaru and now Subaru won’t talk to them….
@ryanolson82953 ай бұрын
@@randykuta5146 sad but true
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
Interesting that Ram has the lowest payload, yet doesn’t even have the weight of a sunroof bringing it down. My guess is that the rear coil springs are likely to blame.
@omardevonlittle38173 ай бұрын
Lawyers* all of these trucks are underrated on payload by at least 30%
@plmn933 ай бұрын
They have long had terrible payloads. Coil springs typically can't support as much weight because they connect to a single point on the frame, while leaf springs spread out that weight over a few feet. This is also why air springs are a bad idea on a leaf sprung vehicle. You are focusing a high load on a part of the frame that wasn't designed for it.
@YerBoyTroy3 ай бұрын
@@plmn93 Doesnt the raptor use coils and has more payload than the ram? I think there is more that factors into than just the coils. New tundra went from leafs to coils and saw an increase in payload. So there are definitely other factors
@plmn933 ай бұрын
@@YerBoyTroy Yes there are other factors, but with all else being equal, leaf springs are going to be able to handle more weight which is why they have been used in trucks for so long.
@YerBoyTroy3 ай бұрын
@@plmn93 To be fair ram knows their user base. I would say a higher percentage of owners benefit from the increased unladen ride stability vs max payload capabilities. Most folks in fullsizes these days aren't utilitizing the max payload often
@maxshadow40033 ай бұрын
I wish you guys could do a 200k test. My guess is the GMC 6.2 would win, turbos fail.
@sts34273 ай бұрын
You guys do great videos, that being said your average Joe can't afford these. Sad
@Jeremy5speed2 ай бұрын
I’m an average Joe and I have a 23 Lariat power boost, pretty much identically equipped and love it.
@RonnN-gf8tm3 ай бұрын
I want one of each..they all look awesome... really like the New 24' Ford 150
@doug61913 ай бұрын
24 feet is a long truck
@plmn933 ай бұрын
You can or can't go wrong with any of them. Meaning they are all awesome trucks, but they all can have serious issues as well.
@adamdavis17373 ай бұрын
@@plmn93That's the unfortunate truth. On paper and probably for the majority of people driving these trucks they're built pretty well, they'll probably be reliable, and they'll probably last a long while But a bad dice roll for any given one of them brand new off the lot can be an unexpected nightmare. The thing about research online is that you're going to see way more horror stories compared to people who are satisfied with the vehicle. Because you're far more likely to be vocal if something's going wrong. Not that you shouldn't be vocal with something's going wrong, but I would wager it is still ultimately the minority
@Whatisthis1953 ай бұрын
Ford messed up by not putting the 7.2kw as standard. It’s small at a $400 option, but so many dealers skip it🙄
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
I always custom order my trucks; the dealers always add BS to the lot trucks to increase the profit\asking price and I end up paying less by ordering exactly what I want, even if they are offering a slightly bigger discount on a lot vehicle. In this case, having the 7.2kw as an option makes more sense then increasing the whole line by $400 and making it standard.
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
That being said, any dealer that skips the 7.2kw option is an idiot.
@Whatisthis1953 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 yuuup. & bedliners! For whatever reason, fords around me never have them. Every GM dealer has their trucks bed lined. I don’t get it lol.
@joshreynolds7293 ай бұрын
You can always order your truck the way you want . Ford is cheap that’s why they don’t add stuff as a mandated thing that hikes the price as some may not want it but most will then you pay which makes prices competitive but really it’s bull. it’s up to the dealer to option out or add stuff then charge what they want for lot trucks upon allocation. This is why it makes sense to make your own orders as the other gentleman suggested above.
@KeystoneTexan3 ай бұрын
Ford is cheap!!!!😂 cheap made and then nickel and dime you to death for every little option you want.
@Stardantheman3 ай бұрын
The 3.0 LZO for the Sierra is worth considering for MPG
@murrkem82393 ай бұрын
The cost of ownership for the LZO option, diesel fuel, maintenance, and def quickly negate the MPG. Not even including the cost to replace the belt driven oil pump at the 100k recommended interval.
@ALMX5DP3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239the oil pump belt service interval is 200k fyi.
@paulbenderavich38333 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239belt replacement is now at 150k miles
@fhpchris3 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239 the belt driven oil pump is 200k interval. GM did say that 100k would probably include a fuel pump replacement though and that is also on the back of the engine. The LZ0 is pretty much universally agreed to be awesome though. I could understand getting the 6.2 if you wanted to buy an aftermarket supercharger or something down the line but the ECU isn't even tunable yet afik.
@grimmjob80903 ай бұрын
@@murrkem8239Where I live diesel is only 40 cents more than 87, and the def consumption is next to nothing unless you’re towing a lot, and it’s cheap when you do get it. I only need to fill it every 5k miles or so. My drive to work is mostly highway and I get around 24 mpg in an at4. Would recommend the LZO to people considering a gm
@jcrews33 ай бұрын
Those 6.2’s don’t like to be brake torqued. You just have to come to a complete stop and then floor it. Still not bad though, but it can be a lot better by just flooring it
@tgrafrath3 ай бұрын
I can't believe after all these videos they still brake torque them! Just floor it and it's way faster off the line
@danielsherrill70853 ай бұрын
So true. I see a bunch of the 6.2 powered trucks where I live and they are definitely way faster than what they got. Even my old 2012 Silverado is the same way. If you brake torque it, it's slow, but if you just punch it it's much quicker.
@ducktails16953 ай бұрын
It's still slow as shit...just goes to show that V8's aren't necessary today. You're basically paying for the sound which is stupid.
@jcrews33 ай бұрын
@@ducktails1695 5.4 seconds to 60 without brake torquing is slow then i guess so. If you don’t believe me. Check car and driver and also motor trend. I myself have a high country with this engine so i know from personal experience that it’s quicker than this. I’m sure you probably drive a civic si or something. lol
@ducktails16953 ай бұрын
@@jcrews3 Sure....I bet you really got 5.4 seconds lol. Good one!
@OhioStateBuckeyefanstuckinMI3 ай бұрын
Give me the GMC all day
@billmalec3 ай бұрын
Why?
@jl40913 ай бұрын
I know a guy that does durability tests.
@MariuszChr3 ай бұрын
Whistling Diesel?
@cantbsdave3 ай бұрын
yeah give these trucks to Whistling Diesel haha
@jonhasdirtymaxagulari30623 ай бұрын
WD :)
@michaelf31583 ай бұрын
Why does Andre always have to correct people and make them look stupid? He’s always gotta be right and has to one up people.
@Springfield20163 ай бұрын
The new Ram engines have been a nightmare to service. It is body off to reach anything on the back of the engine. This is from a Ram technician. Lots of power, smooth, but when any major service is needed, expensive.
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
What is your opinion of the 3.6L V6?
@Springfield20163 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit It is underpowered for a pickup, but is relatively reliable and easy to service. Keep up with regular maintenance and it will last a long time. My personal Ram has the 5.7 Hemi which is smooth and great for towing. I get about 18 mph on my 50 mile round trip commute. The 3.6 would do a little better mpg, but could not tow my toy hauler.
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
@@Springfield2016 I was looking at the 2025 Ram Charger is why I ask about the 3.6L
@BC083 ай бұрын
@@Springfield2016 Common follower failures, common timing chain issues. Pentastar is junk
@slabbusterrtr76903 ай бұрын
I hate working on a dodge never seen one easy to work on not a fan of dodge yeah there trucks are nice but when it's time to work on it nightmare
@erics97542 ай бұрын
Ram for the win but you know TFL loves their Fords they always have and always will pick Ford I think Ford sponsors them so I guess I can understand that. What I do is pick the opposite of what these guys say and my 2016 Ram has never let me down but my best friend's Ford F-150 is always in the shop glad I did not believe these guys when they said Ford did you notice the shifty look in their eyes like when someone is lying lol. I bought the truck because these guys said Ford was better so I knew the Ram had to be better since it was their second pick always go with their second pick because that is the best truck. If you want tow capacity buy a real truck a 1 ton if you want a smooth-riding vehicle capable of towing the family boat with a beautiful interior and exterior buy a Ram. I am not biased and I have owned Ford's Lincolns Chevys Buicks Dodges Oldsmobile. GMC which made a great truck in 2009 -2014 in the Silverado GMC I mean that was my best truck beat the Ram and Ford for reliability no frills work truck was a beast.
@AllenStuck3 ай бұрын
I love my f150 ❤
@rollercam3513 ай бұрын
That dodge is ugly they made them look like a car
@brianbarclay43163 ай бұрын
Why would you have not chosen a higher trim for the Ford? Also a big win to the Ford for being aluminum, that is much appreciated by those of us who live in northern states!
@BC083 ай бұрын
Good for sheet metal, but the Ford still has a steel frame, rear axle and some suspension components
@brianbarclay43163 ай бұрын
@@BC08 yeah and all that takes is spray some fluid film on the frame once a year. I have never had a problem with a frame getting anymore than surface rust.
@erics97542 ай бұрын
I thought they were going to cry when Ram beat the 0-60 time of the others. Believe me you can get much better times he barely gave it any gas to start sorry guys you're not fooling anyone.
@MariuszChr3 ай бұрын
"good oldness" category would score GMC max points. Sound, displacement, good looking.
@HugoB-x4x3 ай бұрын
GM trucks look the best hands down
@craigstark27123 ай бұрын
Ford and GM offers their more powerful powertrains in cheaper trims than Ram offers their HO Hurricane in. Something to consider.
@chevypas3 ай бұрын
GM seats are terrible , no leg support and very stiff foam pad. its been like this for the past 2 gens, will not buy a truck with hard seats like that.
@bradleymarocha69253 ай бұрын
They will hold up longer
@nathanlewis34623 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter it the ram can "tow" 10,000 lbs, it cant handle the tongue weight that would require. Using the 10% rule, that would be 1,000 lbs hitch weight. So hope you dont need a driver in the truck or you're overweight. 😂
@plmn933 ай бұрын
Exactly. Most people are going to hit the payload limit before the tow limit. That's why Tundras and Tacomas were so worthless for so long, they had absolutely pathetic payloads. Oh, and the rule is 10-15%, so you were being generous.
@danielkampfhenkel79933 ай бұрын
Load distributing hitch. Allows for towing heavier trailer weights.
@nathanlewis34623 ай бұрын
@@danielkampfhenkel7993 weight distribution hitches DO NOT increase the payload or towing capability of a vehicle.
@danielkampfhenkel79933 ай бұрын
@@nathanlewis3462they do decrease felt tongue weight allowing you to be able to tow max trailer weight for that vehicle. GVWR is GVWR, you’re correct. I own a RAM and yes their payload sucks in comparison, but I still love it.
@alars28473 ай бұрын
Same thing for Ford. 11,000 tow capability. However, assuming 10% tongue weight, 1100 lbs from 1284 lbs= 184 lbs for a driver and nothing else. That means that if Andre or Nathan were to tow this Ford at max tow capacity, neither one could legally drive it!
@frankkboy253 ай бұрын
Guys its a pick up truck if it ain't broking dont fix it give me my v8 6,2 gmc keep your six cylinder problematic Turbo
@michaelnelson36723 ай бұрын
How about a review on the QUALITY and RELIABILITY of GM-Ford-Ram...
@cwqrpportable3 ай бұрын
Boring zzzzz
@Steve-yr5vi14 күн бұрын
what about it? Do you own any of them? There are hundreds of thousands of owners of each that report never having issues - like myself. These owners, like myself take care of our vehicles, drive them with sense to get the most out of our investment. I would not have a concern about any of these trucks being able to get me through a blizzard, take me there and back again to some remote dirt road destination. I know if I do my part the trucks will do theirs. All of these three are very reliable vehicles anyone that says different either has a financial interest or is a fool.
@larrylucas57313 ай бұрын
If you like RECALLS then Ford is your truck.
@rickster78763 ай бұрын
You guys seem to be hung up on Ford a little too much. Add in Recalls Ford goes out the window!
@Jay-me7gw3 ай бұрын
Or, maybe, Ford just makes a solid truck all around and they like it the best.
@Gadfly20253 ай бұрын
Most reliable GM Most comfortable Ram Best follow me #1 highly faulted Ford . GM 3.0 Duramax 🤩 Ram Hurricane 🌀 if found reliable 😄 Ford keeps 5.0 😁 Tundra 😢what happened?
@tylorcarlson46273 ай бұрын
Titan picked a bad year to back out. Nissan made the last classic reliable truck
@MrFordguy733 ай бұрын
I agree, each one of these trucks are great, however if you are a RV or homeowner who lives in a power outage area, such as hurricane-prone, the powerboost being able to power your house, rv, job site, tailgating, is priceless no matter how you look at it. Being able to brew coffee or use a microwave while you're driving down the road call my wife using hair dryer, is it game changer. Not having to wait at the charging site for an hour to recharge is great. Everyone have a happy Father's Day.
@DaleWilly3 ай бұрын
None of these trucks; Toyota is by far the best
@davidleeosbourne27273 ай бұрын
Huh? Lol Toyota. They are blowing up like crazy
@Tylnorton3 ай бұрын
Tacoma? Maybe, but the Tundra, I heard otherwise
@MrHand-ih4sz3 ай бұрын
I'm officially out of the fullsize market. Just crazy money. Got a new ZR2 Colorado. Was it expensive? Yea...but it wasn't 90 grand. Love the truck so far...no regrets.
@Sir_Mack3 ай бұрын
Wow that's great! You just grossly overpaid for a midsized truck. Congratulations! I get it, full size truck are over priced, just like most vehicles at this point. But, if there's one group of vehicles that are ridiculously overpriced for what they are it's mid size trucks! Great job my guy! You just paid 63k for a mid size truck lmao😅!!!! You could have has a full size well equipped elevation or something for the same price! You paid 63k for a dinky truck hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
Should’ve got A Maverick imo Only reasonably priced truck rn
@MrHand-ih4sz3 ай бұрын
@Sir_Mack 52K. Like I said...expensive. But the same features in a FS would go close to 90K. Handles better...easier to get around town...fun to drive. I'm pretty happy. If you don't have the money, keep driving your Prius, lad. Maybe you should be watching videos about old shitboxes, and not new trucks.
@MrHand-ih4sz3 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit A MAVERICK!! 😄 🤣
@Sir_Mack3 ай бұрын
@MrHand-ih4sz you have no clue what I drive and you wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway so. Enjoy your 60k overpriced dinky truck bud
@J.ZealuisАй бұрын
They getting paid to say we need to choose hybrid 😅😅
@googleaccount26373 ай бұрын
GMC
@harshroads3 ай бұрын
Joke 0-60 test 😂.
@RoadHouseeee3 ай бұрын
As someone who’s worked at a Chrysler dealer for 11 years… it’s not the Ram
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit3 ай бұрын
Was the 3.6L V6 reliable atleast? I wouldn’t buy a hemi
@BC083 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit The Pentastar 3.6 is a massive hunk of crap
@davidporter70513 ай бұрын
of course. Anyone with a pulse could say this
@ryanhori69543 ай бұрын
The Ford is the best looking truck perfect color
@Ringmacher3 ай бұрын
Great review! I’ve got a 2017 F150 Lariat. Started looking for my next truck. I’m not happy with what I’m seeing. Great styling, features, but truck capacity keeps going down. Mine as 1863 lbs capacity. I’m seeing trucks with 300+ lbs LESS capacity. I really don’t want to move up to 3/4 ton HD truck. BUT, take a truck for towing a 26-30’ camper, 2 adults, 2 kids, really NOTHING in the bed and you can be at or over the GVWR of the truck, quickly. I’m running consistently 400-500lbs over GVWR because of the heavy tongue weight of my camper. (Another industry issue for another day) I’ve upgraded my suspension, added a class V hitch. I went from a 2013 to a 2017 because capacity was going up. All these features are driving the capacity down.
@roco227313 ай бұрын
I bought a 2017 F150 xlt supercab a year ago as I was planning on getting a new truck but didn’t like what I saw at the prices they were at! I absolutely love this truck with the 5.0 as it’s such a pleasure to drive! It has everything that I was looking for in a truck and nothing that I didn’t want! It also has a payload rating of 1958 lbs.
@Steve-yr5vi14 күн бұрын
The Ford F250 with the 6.8 would be a great option for you. Look the Superduty line can handle ALOT more abuse than the 1/2 tons, they aren't as quick, they don't ride isn't as nice, especially for someone constantly towing, they are a better option.
@299charles3 ай бұрын
Why did you even fire them up? Everybody knows the V8 gonna sound best everybody…….
@Jophlo783 ай бұрын
With that kind of payload, the RAM was clearly designed for grocery shopping.
@brly45423 ай бұрын
Payload on all three is sad, my 2021 Ranger crew cab had more payload...
@fishonalbertaoutdoors97613 ай бұрын
That's all rams are don't you know?
@thomasward45053 ай бұрын
Everybody knows that the payload rating is for all types of situations, mostly the brakes, all of those trucks will take way more weight than that and be perfectly fine
@marcpomaville94293 ай бұрын
Ram knows that 90 percent of truck drivers never haul anything heavier than bags of dirt from home Depot
@ARETEcaninepurpose3 ай бұрын
I don't know anyone buying a half ton trying to tow a ton, let alone knowing how to back them up. The half tons look great, able to show off at the golf course, and travel in comfort. If you are towing just go with a 3/4 or 1 ton. The half tons are just a man's SUV is all (marketing towards the man in the relationship)
@allenallen50053 ай бұрын
You should have used all big V8s. You loose points for putting dodge in second. They are almost always last..lol
@Urbanmicrohomestead3 ай бұрын
GMC for the win in my opinion
@TomTom-gt5ff3 ай бұрын
Until the cam goes flat!!
@johnnyjackson17833 ай бұрын
Yeah….no
@edkruzel3 ай бұрын
Which is best comes down to reliability. What recalls are out in the first year? What percent of each brand had catastrophic failures in the first year? Looks are subjective, differences in 0-60 by seconds don't matter, towing differences of hundreds of pounds are minimal. We pay an outrageous, ridiculous, over-inflated price tag on vehicles that will beat my needs, not meet. Who purchases a vehicle without knowing if it will tow or haul to your needs? I want to know if I do the maintenance that my investment should run until the wheels fall off.
@bostonaviation20103 ай бұрын
As much as I hate to say this, but GM wins because of the 6.2 and the 3.0 Duramax. I just can't get over Ford and Ram taking away the V8.
@sprint26483 ай бұрын
GM has lifer failure and the worst transmission of the three.
@realjredecop3 ай бұрын
Ford didn’t take away the v8, have the 5.0
@bostonaviation20103 ай бұрын
@@realjredecop On the higher trim levels they did.
@bostonaviation20103 ай бұрын
@@sprint2648 I don't think so.
@plmn933 ай бұрын
@@realjredecop Yes, and the 5.0 is arguably their worst F-150 engine according to reports on the forums, with cam phaser and oil consumption problems. But some people still seem to think these are the simple pushrod V8s from decades ago. They are every bit as complex and expensive to repair as the turbocharged sixes.