2015 Ram 2500 Cummins take on the grueling Ike Gauntlet towing review

[@MountainSledder]

Just got a new 2016 2500 4x4 8' Bed Crew Cab Cummins, 1st tank measured at the pump was 17MPG (Computer said 17 as well). 80% City driving in horrible traffic. Got well over 27MPG (computer said) on a 50 mile highway test I did here in California at sea level elevation. Have not hooked up the 9000 lb. toyhauler yet, but this video had me grinning ear to ear. I think the Ram 2500s are much better towing machines than the Ram/Chevy 3500 or F350/F450 for us weekend warriors. Better ride, Better fuel, Better Visibility. Plus the 2500 Ram 4x4 has sky high cab and bed clearance and shares many components with the PowerWagon, so it is by far the better off-road pulling KING!. Unless you pull a lot of weight for a living, just can see why anyone would get anything else. Brand loyalty to Ford or GMC will get you a lot less function for your money. But its all about what make you happy. I'm very please with my Ram Heavy Duty Pickup!!

[@rxonmymind8362]

Can you comment on your ownership now in 2019? Appreciate it.

[@shaunsomma2387]

Definitely curious

[@crunchyblack2224]

Do you still own it? How has it been?

[@pronewbofficial]

I'm also curious. I've been eyeing the 1500s, but since diesel is cheaper than ethanol-free gas and this cummins engine gets more mpg than the gas engine, I'm starting to think it makes sense to get the 2500.

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

Any updates on your Cummins

[@mikewill3176]

This truck is a beast.

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

Yeah,That Cummins I6 Diesel!

[@MrAngel2U]

TFL Two big thumbs up! You guys have really been grinding out these videos lately. Thanks for the great vids.

[@HalfCrazy520]

Watching this vs watching the 6.4 Hemi version doing the same run... Makes me SO HAPPY I went with the diesel. Like the difference between a horse and a pony. Apparently, you guys liked this truck.

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

Yeah, That Cummins I6 Diesel Is A Race 🏁 Horse.

[@zachnielson2061]

I don't think I will ever buy something else but a Dodge ram. I currently have an 07 Dodge 3500 5.9L, and I love it!

[@NordicNevs]

Don't ever get rid of it. The 5.9 is highly sought after nowadays. (This coming from a Chevy owner)

[@zachnielson2061]

I won't. It is our Ole reliable. Never had a problem. It has 230k + and it is still running very strong!

[@NordicNevs]

Zach Nielson Yup and its going to continue to. Being that it has 230 on it I am sure it would not get there unless you are on top of your maintenance. Good to see people holding onto their vehicles. Unfortunately a lot of folks have a 100k area out lol. With proper maintenance and occasional repair a rig can go a long time. Personally I have a 2014 duramax and I put 45,000/year on it. Im interested to see how far I can take it

[@bryanmartinez6600]

80's Chevy In Diesel Reliability I would say 1 Cummins 2 Duramax 3 Powerstroke We even have an 06 LBZ Duramax 650 torque. I put Powerstroke last because Ford hasn't gotten a diesel right always jumping to new engines. The 6.7 is better than the previous 2 diesels but still it was over engineered Air to water intercooler, a cooling system that runs at 2 separate temperatures and the classic Engine bay that's been packed with so much components since 2003.5

[@codymiller1994]

People who can't pronounce Cummins drive me nuts lol. It is CUMMINS not CUMMINGS!

[@cjherrera79]

+Cody Miller Or when they tell you, "Ford owns Cummins". REALLY!!!!!

[@scottt9235]

Cody Miller Not exactly! Ford owned ~10% of Cummins, and that ended 20 years ago when Cummins bought those shares back.

[@kc62474]

I saw 'Cummings' on a bug shield several years back. LOL!

[@Icutmetal]

Drives me nuts too, but I think some of it is spell check on people’s phones, etc.

[@richardthompson3118]

Who cares

[@M305-e1g]

I love the new Rams!!! They look awesome and there inteiors are best in class!! (In my opinion)

[@5RWill]

I think it's universal their interior is definitely best in class. Not only is it best in class their trucks are much cheaper than the other two competitors. GM is definitely second interior wise IMO, then ford. Price wise though you get so much truck for what Ram charges. Buddy of mine got a loaded Ram 1500 complete leather interior just like my 2014 sierra, 5.7 Hemi, 3.55 gear ratio, and pretty much everything my truck has for 6000$ less than i paid for mine. I was impressed. When dad gets out from under his F250, i think he'll be going with the 6.7 cummins. His favorite is his old 2009 Duramax but for the price and warranty he is really looking into Ram.

[@dannycollins2651]

They look awesome and have so much power!

[@guerreroqrx1929]

I agree Rams are the best

[@ByJakeRyan]

Car Xpert88 I'm a Ford guy but I will agree they do have great interiors

[@NordicNevs]

Personally I like the early 90's rams

[@tpike46w]

RAM , best looking and performing truck on the road!

[@kidjoker0737]

I love RAM and this proves exactly why I do.

[@rickyjulian2499]

I think Ram will take out the Golden Hitch award for the HD Diesel category atleast

[@LarryC213]

Ricky Julian Are you kidding? These people worship Ford. Just my opinion.

[@Stonemasters11]

@LarryC213 Everyone has there Favorites including these guys but Live Feed will be in Favor of best truck

[@StephenMc2000]

Ha ha watching this with Bluetooth on in my truck makes is seem like they are all beside me so cool!

[@cjherrera79]

Great video, I love the "hum" of the Cummins when towing/hauling. I recently purchased a 2015 Tradesman Crew cab 4x4 CTD for 42k. I really like the blacked out edition you tested, but 61k for a 4x2, YIKES!!! The tradesman is by far the best bang for the buck if you don't mind having less options, plus the resale value of a Ram 2500/3500 equipped with the Cummins is super high. Heck, you can't even touch a new F-150 for 42k. I have owned Ford's as well, both diesel and gas and they were good trucks, but when it comes to diesels, Cummins is the way to go hands down. My truck is completely stock and I can average anywhere from 18-22 mph highway at 7,000 ASL (Above sea level).

[@cjherrera79]

+Carlos Herrera meant 18-22 mpg not mph!!! (My bad)

[@cjherrera79]

I think the biggest thing that changed was the addition of UREA. Using the UREA causes the engine to go into "Regen" a lot less than the old model 6.7. I'm sure they did some more updates as well but that is the biggest one I can think of. I live at 7,000' elevation here in NM and the best I can average about 19-20 mpg depending on the wind that day. I'm pretty sure if I lived at sea level I could average about 20-22 mpg. One of my co-workers just bought a 2015 F-250 Powerstroke Platinum. It's a beautiful truck, but he is only averaging 11 mpg. That Sucks!!!

[@cjherrera79]

I have thought "very briefly" about deleting my truck. It only has 10k miles on it and I have had it almost one year. It will cost over 2k to delete everything properly and on top of that if anything major fails on the truck (fuel pump, lift pump, injector, etc) the dealership will tell you to kick rock because they will not cover it. Somebody I talked to brought up a good point. Whey mess with it, you have a 5/100k powertrain warranty. Plus Cummins put millions designing these engines so why would they give it that type of warranty if they did not have faith in their product. Another thing is, if I were to do the deletes, I would gain maybe 2 mpg, which sounds good but it would take forever to make my money back on 2k + dollars. I almost bought a GMC Duramax, but I could not beat the deal on my Ram. 42k or 55k for the GMC. I would have been happy with both, but I love my Ram. This is the 4th Ram 2500 I have owned with the CTD. Never have had a problem with one of them.

[@cjherrera79]

My 01' and 05' were not modded. In my 06' I tried the "Quadzilla" and my EGT's were sky high so I removed it immediately. Other than that I have left them all stock, with the exception off adding intakes. I like the sound the intake gives off when the turbo spools up and it really woke up the exhaust brake on the 15' I have now.

[@icu_corey_rn_903]

That straight 6 is a true monster.

[@astrocomical7159]

THE best designed diesel with natural balance.

[@Mr.k3n]

Really enjoying this series at the mo.

[@bhcfam]

at 1:45 you mention the adjustable trailer height. Is that an auto adjust OR can it be overriden (manual adjustment)? There is so little info about this function even in the operators manual.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Cummins engine is the best pickup truck engine ever made. 💪

[@astrocomical7159]

Inline 6 are naturally balanced.

[@gilbertnadeau7181]

I have a 2013 2500 Long Horn 4x4. Awesome truck, love the ride, love the Cummins.

[@JorgeArceP]

Very refreshing to watch you guys doing this particular review, and having seen in past video reviews that you are pretty biased towards the blue oval, I am glad to see Roman repeatedly say how impressed he is. I currently own a 2014 3500 SRW Mega 4x4, and previously owned a 2006 2400 4x4 both CTD models and both purchased new. While I believe all vehicles have their flaws and none isn't perfect, these trucks don't fall apart after a few thousand miles as suggested. I sold my 2006 in 2012 with 170+ thousand miles and the current owner is just as happy as he was the day he bought it form me. I like GM and Ford, just like my Ram better :)

[@sixonesevendude]

Great test run, TFLtruck!

[@gabrieliannozzi7935]

Thank you so much. I just bought this same truck on Saturday to pull my travel trailer across country over the rookies. Had to trade my 2014 ram 1500 cause she just couldn't handle a 7k lbs trailer above 55 mph

[@rxonmymind8362]

Good to know. Thanks

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

Because Of That Cummins I6 Diesel?

[@flaviocriollo8977]

love this Ram Trucks i own a 2017 ram 2500 cummins and i love

[@eyeout]

Like Cummins your mouth 👄

[@ih1206]

That's a sick truck. You guys should fully max it out and take another run up the guatlet just to see what she can really do.

[@ChloeDunIT]

Seriously. I was thinking the same thing. 12,500 is child's play for this truck

[@ih1206]

My cousin has an 03 he has hay and straw with. I don't know what it's rated for, but I know for a fact we've hauled a lot more than that. One of the flatbeds weighs close to 6000 empty. And 250 bales of hay on it wold be around 12000 lbs plus the weight of the trailer.

[@NordicNevs]

WarWolfen It is conventional towing. If they went 5th or gooseneck it would be higher

[@ih1206]

C Nevs That's true. Either way, max it out. Lets see what it can really do.

[@maximumwoof8662]

actually, the receiver tow is about 10,000 lbs.. the 5th wheel or gooseneck method is what allows 17,000 lbs in towing..

[@NordicNevs]

MrTruck Looks like WTF am I doing in the Passenger seat. What do I do with my hands...

[@kornfedkustoms1548]

Read this comment you wont believe it!!! Ram truck is the best value out there. I just ordered a 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.7 cummins crew cab long bed with vinyl floors, HD vinyl seats, trailer brake controller, clearance lights, bigger 220amp alternator, cold weather group, protection group(skid plates) limited slip rear diff, and factory aux switches in the dash all for.....$39,910.00 no joke. Contact skyler at columbia ram fiat of Columbia Tennessee!!!!! Insane deal!! My truck will be done being built 5/18 of 2017 cant wait to pick it up!!!! Oh and they said theyll fill the diesel tank completely for the drive home. Great guys. Try buying a ford or chevy diesel for that price.....!!!

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

KornFed Kustoms big horn or better for alot of stuff

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

That Cummins I6 Diesel Is Reliable!

[@Turbo93Kompressor]

22 people who dislike have a GMC 2:23 ahahaha

[@bryanmartinez6600]

Chris Cams I think it's the Powerstroke more we have a LBZ Duramax but I'm considering a new Ram Cummins it feels the most reliable out of newer diesels.

[@BeaudoinEric]

In case there was any doubt, it looks like the Cummins absolutely outperforms the 6.4 Hemi when towing. The diesel is the way to go, in my opinion.

[@jlbush8249]

Of course it does, diesels will always out tow a gasser. The only questions are, can one afford the diesel, and do they need that much tow capacity for $6000 more on the sticker?

[@LukeA_55]

8:16 in the lower lefthand part of the RPM circular thingie there is another cicular peice that says DEF what is that part for? is it the tempature of the DEF or like the amount of DEF u have left

[@BlazeBlackwing]

It is the DEF gauge and tells you how much you have left in your tank.

[@LukeA_55]

ok thx for the answer

[@tritchie6272]

Good review! I shared this on my facebook page. Sense my Pastor is a diesel fan as well as Truck fan I tagged him with this video.

[@devodar2579]

Those Ram's just really kick butt. Love that truck!!!!

[@quadrunner2124]

Air bags are such a cool option. I wish I could bring myself to trust them. Awe well, progressive springs work pretty good too.

[@AEV305]

I tow with my Ram 6.7 22000lbs without a problem

[@moralescesar19]

RAM does offer a Canyon brown/Light Frost Beige interior on the Laramie trim If you do not like the black interior

[@1992Barrientos]

Favorite truck hands down

[@brettb.7425]

I can’t see spending that much money on a truck and not having a 4X4. I traded my 4X2 1500 in for a 4X4 2500 with the Cummins. No shaming here just my 2 cents. I’m sure many folks would opt for the 4X2 if they don’t need to go off-road or drive in ice. Great video and thanks for sharing it.

[@energypowerification]

Wouldnt you know it, I just bought one at Dave Smith and two days later they announced the release of the 2018. Just my luck. Oh well the torque on my model didnt change at least

[@David_TX]

time check 4:43 what's that hanging down on the passenger side for the front axle? can't be the pumpkin they been driver side drop Since 94... the one in the video is 2wd too so I'm at a loss

[@David_TX]

+Ray K ok thanks man I was confused for a second lol

[@jab1720]

Yogurt might go bad since the ram box is not refrigerated. I like that Nathan is opting for healthier food choices.

[@anthonyholmes2969]

Makes me feel better seeing this video I have to haul my Durango back to kcmo I'm using a ram 2500

[@williamgolden9972]

Great review. Love the RAM 2500.

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

You Gotta Love The Incredible Cummins I6 Diesel!

[@SOGCaptain]

I wish I could see how all of the trucks you test perform while in cruise control. How does it downshift during breaking? What is the margin before downshifting starts? Maybe set at 55 if speed limit is 60. How does it handle not being able to reach set speed?

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

I can't see the 4x2 being lighter than the 4x4 by only 250lbs. The transfer box,the drive shaft,the axle shafts all that is only 250lbs? I'm not complaining I think the RAM 2500 is far better then the other trucks in it's class. The best looking hands down. As a work truck it's almost too easy drive. Steering wheel turns so easy for a loaded down truck. Better ride then the 09-up 1500's. I'd love to have this truck in 4x4 or a Cummins powered Power Wagon blacked out. 24mpg is a lot better than the 13 to 15mpg I was getting in my RAM 1500 4x4.

[@raykrv6a]

Thanks for the review. I have a 2014 2500 with the same powertrain and love it. Great towing for a 3/4 ton. The payload on the Laramie is around 2300. If you got the Tradesman trim it would be around 3k.

[@drinking12many]

raykrv6a Ive had as much as 2650 in my bed and it was just beginning to squat... I do have a tradesman though. I was amazed.

[@MrGeneral01lee]

Love the comment around 2:20 in the vid. "So this isn't even the high output?" "No, no it's not". Haha. Truck rips the test to shreds and isn't even the properly tuned engine. Cummins just doesn't make it fair to other manufacturers. Yes ford can claim more power. But no fuel economy.

[@chrisdorion8135]

I have this truck and was wounded if I am safely able to pull a 27ft 5th wheel with a gvwr of 11,750

[@jamesyork6023]

Will you a do a video of a G56 Manual equipped truck?

[@brianalberts3665]

I love these videos. Great job, guys. Big fan of your work. It was interesting to see the difference between the 2500 6.7 Cummins and 2500 6.4 Hemi. Man, the Hemi struggled. I think you guys even tried twice with that vehicle. Crazy. This one was very impressive. Awesome looking rig. I own a '12 Ram 4x4 Quad Cab Express, 5.7 Hemi. Absolutely love it. Keep up the great work. Cheers.

[@coreyadams4646]

I have a 2012 Dodge Ram Longhorn Laramie "Cummins". This sucker will pull, I pull a 2017 Dutchmen Aerolite 27footer with ezzz. Nothing like a inline 6, simple engine to work on. Open the hood on a 6.7l powerstroke, looks like a bowl of noodles, stuff going everywhere. 6.7l duramax in 3rd. But out of the big 3, they all have their pros and cons. Ram all the way. Firing Order 163524, 16 to young, 35 to old, 24 just right! LOL...

[@milehighkit4725]

Great review. But you should always compare 4 Wheel drive.

[@jamesm.4649]

Question for you. I often hear you say you are at "full throttle". Does that mean you have the gas pedal mashed to the floor with no cruise on, or does that mean you have the cruise control set and the vehicle is revving as high as it can based on it trying to maintain the speed you have set in the cruise control?

[@alextemmert23]

I figured if you were doing a towing challenge you guys would use the HO 4x4 being it the most popular model and the most popular option with people who use the truck mainly for towing. Just my opinion on what would make sense.

[@weirdguy75]

Would you guys test a 6.7 cummins with the 6spd manual? What would towing be like then?

[@Icutmetal]

Chris Likely less impressive than most people think; the manual transmission derates the torque down to 650ft.lbs, I think??

[@noahranker4133]

Josh lower you are an idiot

[@Icutmetal]

Josh lower Um, you’re wrong. Ram has derated the Cummins for years when equipped with the G56. You did not read and certainly didn’t comprehend my first reply.

[@Bruningable]

Cool video, awesome truck! Keep up the good work guys!

[@ChloeDunIT]

12,500lbs seems way too low for this truck. Any particular reason you guys didn't go with more weight?

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

WarWolfen The three dudes in the cab may have something to do with it !!! ;-)))

[@TFLtruck]

Two reasons. We were getting close to the maximum payload on this truck. The base model is rated at 2,530 lbs. We had approx. 2,150 lbs of payload. Second, we wanted to have approximately the same weight as with other 2500 trucks we tested.

[@oducks5820]

The other trucks couldnt take it basically.

[@Asaphunnna]

Any particular reason you won't shut the fuck up

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

OrangeRam Is there any particular reason you're such an objectionable oik❓🙄

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

Did you guys already review the 2500 long horn? It's a beauty

[@Mrelse011]

Why did you guys stop doing the brakes test

[@craiggorum5259]

Nice test but you are towing the 12,000 pounds without much wind drag. I would like to see that same test towing a full size travel trailer. Wind drag is adds as much load to a tow vehicle as does weight. Ram says the 2500 truck is rated to tow 17,000 pounds and wind drag has been calculated into that 17,000 pound number. I tow a 31.6 foot travel trailer, loaded up it weights 8,500 plus another 450 pounds in the truck. Best test I results I can give is driving up both sides to the Grape Vine. The only problem I had with my 2015 Ram 2500 4x4 Mega cab was having to slow down because the car in front of me wasn't going fast enough. Traveled 65 mph up the Grape Vine with towing mpg of 13.8.

[@dieseldog00]

You could have specified a 3500SRW with the 900bft H/O motor. I had a 2003 3500SRW with the 305/555 motor which at that time WAS the H/O. Had that beautiful blue fleck cloth seating and the 8 speaker Boston Acoustic sound system with steering wheel controls. Best truck I ever owned and I wish I still had it. I love the Cummins but the 6.7 SUCKS for fuel mileage. 4.4mpg wow. My 06 5.9 would have got at least twice that.

[@zajaquez]

Everett Cox My Cummins can get anywhere from 20-25 on the Highway, it is because it is going up a hill for an extended amount of time carrying a heavy load, so it is revving higher than it would normally.

[@dieseldog00]

Zach Morrison You're not making any sense,

[@MrChevypower]

+Everett Cox lol 9mpg pulling 12K pounds at WOT up the mountain? In your dreams! :) Also, if it's automatic, you're going to have to hold the 5.9 in 3rd.

[@corbinburg]

Doesn't have to be a 4x4 to be cool! Love 4x2!!

[@joshlower1]

Corbin Burgett put a rear locker in your 4x2 work truck and you’ll find you can get a lot of places without needing a 4x4.

[@vicwiseman6038]

Can the 4x4 version of this truck pull the Montana 381TH 5th Wheel (dry weight 13000 lbs, GVWR 17000 lbs, Hitch Weight 3,045 lbs)? I am a car guy (not a truck guy) so I am pretty clueless. I get the dry weight number, but what I don't understand is the GVWR number. Does the truck have to be rated for the GVWR or the dry weight number? Also the 381TH has a payload capacity of ~4,000 lbs. Do I add that number to the dry weight or the GVWR? What exactly does the GVWR number consist of? I imagine I would be dumping both dirty water tanks prior to hauling but probably have the fresh water tanks full.

[@shannonblack527]

How about doing a comparison on all 3 hd 2wd diesel trucks mpg. I’m about to be in the market for one.

[@raykrv6a]

I would have been to see the dash set to display the Boost PSI. I've seen up to 34 PSi on mine. That's down at 800 ft. Would be interesting to see what the Cummins would push at the top of the run.

[@thestigmach1984]

do a fuel mileage test while towing! some of us would like to know what to expect when towing. for me a decision between the half ton hemi and this. I don't need this to tow what I want but if it gets significantly more fuel mileage then it's worth it to me.

[@carpetexpress2462]

I have the 4wd version. Cummins FTW!

[@TheCanadianCyclist]

I like Mike and Ike candy. One of my favs....

[@williamgolden9972]

well done video, very nice!

[@CymarronWestChannel]

Nice job guys!

[@matthewwoodhead8681]

Any chance you guys can do a review on the 2019 Ram 2500 with the Cummins as far as towing? Or if you have, can you send me the link. I can't find anything on it. I just want to know more about how well the transmission operates and whether or not I need to step up to a 3500

[@WhitchurchFishing1]

Just wondering if you all have done a video with the Ram 2500 Limted pulling a trailer

[@DUDEWithDODGES]

Should do a video with the manual transmission.

[@JuanLopez-il4tc]

Can you guys haul with older trucks like a second generation cummins. Please and Thanks

[@freezor80]

What does Nathan have on his belly? Is that a black blanket? He is cold? :)

[@jaysmith1408]

If 'Mr. Truck' is the only one with a Class A, how is Roman driving with a 12k trailer?

[@bryanmartinez6600]

jfsa380 Colorado just doesn't give a crap we have car accidentally daily on the I-25 highway from Pueblo to Colorado springs average cruising speed is 80-90mph slow is 70 and those in rush are flying low check rear view mirror nothing then cars fly by out of sight eventually

[@bwilliamstown]

I think this and the Raptor are the most beautiful trucks out there

[@jlbush8249]

What about the TRX?

[@eyeout]

This solidified me getting a Cummins. I won’t pay over 50,000 for it though.

[@jlbush8249]

Is that possible?

[@eyeout]

@@jlbush8249 absolutely not. Ended up getting a dually 3500 for $68,000.😔

[@JsGarage]

My heavy duty of choice until maybe the 2017 superduty comes. Which the H.O. Cummins and Aisin tranny was available in 2500.

[@duelsporthonda9003]

This is a 6 cylinder right?

[@MrEroupe]

Why doesn't anyone test the manual transmission? If I'm buying a heavy duty truck for towing its going to be a manual.

[@Jkub101]

+Hugh Jass real men drive stick

[@MrChevypower]

+MrEroupe Ever driven a manual Cummins? Not exactly fun to drive. You're in 6th gear by the time you hit 30-35mph. Then you're pretty much stuck in 6th forever. On the freeway, the revs are up around 2500rpm+. Automatic with the 3.42 axle is the way to go.

[@MrEroupe]

+MrChevypower haha really? tell me more about your pos that only does 35mph.

[@MrChevypower]

MrEroupe Really? Just trying to be helpful with some real world experience, and you get all defensive like a child. Let's be honest, we both know it's because if you answered my question, you would have to admit that you have never actually driven one. ;)

[@westernkyrail]

plus the manual derates the output to the old 650 ft lb torque rating it would be an unfair fight. kinda how they stack the f450 1 1/2 ton against the one tonners.

[@METALITHrevetments]

I like these "Ike Gauntlet" reviews very much and thee guys really do a great job of explaining all the trucks that they review. I wonder, however, if testing these vehicles at 11,000' altitude is desirable? I would think that every engine, diesel or gas would lose a substantial amount of power, maybe 25-30% at that altitude. Does TFL Truck do any testing elsewhere?

[@raykrv6a]

+METALITHrevetments It would have been nice if they had the boost screen up so we could see the PSI. The Cummins is only going to lose half what a gas engine loses as it goes up in altitude.

[@METALITHrevetments]

That's my point. Would it not be a more accurate measurement of a truck's towing capability to do a test like this one at or near sea level?

[@k.r.v.4219]

How much does the water pallet weigh in the bed?

[@flat6fever680]

Kind of missed it so had to watch the last section over where they sort of casually mentioned that it beat the next best truck so (the GMC) by 20 seconds.

[@Atizzle121310]

What is the bumper rated at and tongue weight?

[@erics9754]

ALSO THE AVERAGE MPS SHOWED 4.7 AFTER. SORRY CAPS LOCK STUCK.

[@sticrzy123]

have they fixed all the transmission issues in the 2500-3500 ram Diesels ?

[@nissan300ztt]

I test drove one tonight 2017 Dodge Ram 2500 Big Horn and its very impressive. Lots of power and great ride. And I really not a huge fan of Dodge. But very impressed.

[@sticrzy123]

nissan300ztt just bought this truck and LOVE it!!

[@nissan300ztt]

3Gunner i saw my local dealership has the 3500 dually with 6speed manual transmissions. And i think i want the 6 speed.

[@sticrzy123]

nissan300ztt Yea i test drove a 6 speed , I did not like it and I like manuals , plus they are a lot less power it's like 660 torque vs 800 torque

[@nissan300ztt]

I wonder what the limiting factor in the manual is? The clutch or the whole assembly. I hate automatics. So boring to drive. i have a CDL and really like 10 and 13 speeds. So Im wondering if I could put a heavier duty transmission in this truck or get a Dodge 5500 with a better tranny? Im gonna use it for both DD and hauling trailers. So Automatic gets really boring.

[@Ltngdrvr]

Two things, first is that matting the throttle pedal is not the fast way to accelerate in a new RAM Cummins, they work better at 3/4 or so throttle. And quoting MPG figures off the dash readout is silly, they are very inaccurate.

[@raykrv6a]

Ltngdrvr My 2500 Cummins rocks at full throttle and I check the MPG reading by hand calculating. Most it's been off is point 7 mpg, usually it's point 3 mpg off. The new Cummins is one clean burning powerhouse.

[@Mike-01234]

Turbos make up for altitude "Little bit" NA engine loss of power is 3% per 1000 feet high which means at 6000 feet NA will lose 18.5% power a turbo charged engine will lose 9% power. This is why aircraft engines use turbochargers to hold a constant power all the way to 20k feet.

[@AndrewBonilla441]

TFL can you do one with a manual??

[@Turkelton]

what weight distribution hitch do you guys use

[@houstonjordan5375]

its an Anderson no sway weight distribution hitch

[@sigglass2183]

Do they still make Dogde Ram truck 2500 that runs on gasoline?

[@stevencash3774]

I wanna see Cummins' 8.0L I6 in these trucks.

[@46ace]

Where's the "down hill" (with the exhaust braking)?

[@MarcMonson]

so this is competing against itself? I dont see any other 2500 diesel tests coming

[@NordicNevs]

That seems to be a fair questions, I have not seen any other competitors in the 3/4 ton class. Anyone want to chime in? Am I missing something?

[@MrGeneral01lee]

It is my understanding that they don't do a test for other manufactures as there is no real change between the 3/4 and 1 ton units. The ram has two definite and different Diesel engines, a high output and the stock. I have not seen them use the high output diesel in their tests (I assume it is used in the 3500 tests) so this test is actually a separate engine/trans combination. Where as the ford and Chevy/gmc combo would just be a change of axle ratio and number of tires spinning. Engine and trans would be the same.

[@NordicNevs]

Same motor, different tuning outputs and transmissions and rear ends. The cummins that pushes out 850tq with the AISIN is the same 6.7 in this test.

[@raykrv6a]

C Nevs The 385hp Cummins with the AISIN is not available in the 2500.

[@NordicNevs]

raykrv6a right, only with the 3500 do you get the higher power output because of the factory tuning for the AISIN and what it can handle. There is no disputing you cannot get the AISIN in the 2500. Personally I think Ram went backwards in not putting the AISIN in all trucks. A Ram 3500 SRW 2015 (3.42 REAR) can tow Marginally more than my 2014 Silverado 2500 (3.73 REAR)...For me the 3.42 rear, though fuel efficient is not my favorite.

[@BryanGushen]

I wish these guys were a little more scientific about the weights being used. Both this cummins and the duramax from a different episode tow the same trailer weighing 12,000 lbs, but this cummins has just 250 lbs of water in the tank in the bed vs 2400 lbs in the bed of the duramax. If the weights more more similar, I think the times would have been closer. Don't get me wrong, I'm a cummins guy, I just don't think these guys aren't as scientific as they could be.

[@myers326]

How is the average 42 mph at the end of the 8.* miles if it ran 60 something the entire time

[@richsoto]

I'd like to see all these trucks tow weights closer to the max capability. This load is still 5K under this trucks max.

[@MrGeneral01lee]

Actually it is the max for this truck. What they not telling you is that the higher number they keep talking about is for fifth wheel or gooseneck towing. And while it would show some things, it would also be way to close to the test they did with the 1 ton trucks. This is a real world show where they are showing what each of us would do with this bad boy. And 12.5k lbs on a ball hitch (it is not load leveling like they say) is more than is legal in most of the states on the eastern seaboard. So I take great stock in what it shows and how the truck handles what would be a true showing of his truck in a "working" environment such as landscaping or small equipment delivery

[@Icutmetal]

Rich Soto Do you understand how payload rating affects towing capacity?

[@MrGeneral01lee]

That does not appear to be an actual load leveling hitch. It does appear to be a sway control. By load leveling actually move weight from the rear axle of truck to the front axle and from the front axle of trailer to the rear. Please explain how your hitch can be qualified as a "load leveling"

[@Icutmetal]

I wondered the same thing.

[@wvcorvetteman]

Why no information about downhill travel?

[@Nemofishman]

They did briefly talk about it.

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

I wouldn't want an all black interior, it'd suck big time in the summer unless you install a remote start and let it cool off before you get in.

[@DevineCrimsonThunder]

Every single ram I've been in comes with the remote start from the factory. Don't know if it's standard on most of them or not but a lot have them

[@J-W.-]

Most GM vehicles come with it if you have the trim.

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

Ah, okay. I'm not that familiar with Ram. I know you can add remote start to most new cars as an option.

[@J-W.-]

TheCobruhAlienat0r Correct Ford also comes with it from factory on most of there cars instead of it being an option, others like honda Toyota you have to go to a dealer for one.

[@wiscokid9890]

There is Nothing I hate more than wood trim in a vehicle. Real or not! It's 2015! Everybody I have ever had a conversation with about the wood trim doesn't like it. It can go away anytime now. I'd rather have all one color in a vehicle than to look at wood trim.

[@lrichmondebupper2179]

How come the Dodge Ram 2500 is only 4x2 and not an optional 4x4?

[@dustindeschamps4690]

You can get a 4wd 2500...

[@rxonmymind8362]

Power Wagon!!! There's your 4x4.