First Dirt! Is the Land Rover LR3 a Stud or a Dud When the Trail Gets Very Steep?

[@steverowe2943]

Awesome scenery! Kudo's on identifying the trail location and how to get there.

[@MrJamesLuz]

My buddy found an LR3 with the HD package and it’s annoying how well it does with street tires off road

[@rfh1987]

You guys are tearing my heart out. I miss my old LR3 so much, watching you having your fun on the trails!

[@RunDub]

Love that you guys stuck with Rover and moved to a newer gen truck! If I ever decide to replace, or simply retire, my Range Rover Classic, I’m pretty set on an LR3.

[@jonsocal]

Due to your reviews, I ALMOST purchased a Touareg as a family (wife and I) off roader/overlander but the one I wanted was sold to a guy who also watched TFL. I decided to go to with an ‘05 LR3 V8 SE that was well taken care of. It’s much larger and better for what we hope to use it for. I installed the Johnson Rods lift and 275/65/18 tires and changed ALL of the fluids. So far, no issues. Our first real trip is coming up this month. I couldn’t be happier that you guys picked one up as well. Now do a comparison of this, the Touareg and the Landcruiser!

[@thecarsavant]

How are you getting along with it now?

[@brianmoore4778]

Have owned three land cruisers, 91,94,2000. Currently own 2006 Touareg v8 and 2005 lr3 hd hse v8 . Touareg best overall. Lr3 best off road by far.

[@melntess]

Sounds like my story! I too almost got a Touareg. Then after TFL rated the LR3 as a better truck, I bought a well maintained one with the HD pack for $9K 2 years ago. I've spent $1400 on engine mounts, $800 on a transmission service, $700 on new rear air struts, $200 on new front upper control arms, $900 for a new water pump and new thermostat, and soon $2000 on the EPB. Not to mention $500 on a Gap IID tool. I don't regret it though. This thing is a very capable beast off road, and still looks good after almost 20 years. It is a very comfortable ride. Take it off roading in the morning, rinse it off and then take it out to dinner with the wife.

[@thebadbug7026]

LR3 vs Touareg, "battle of the air suspensions" is a comparison I would love to see! Great vid as always gentlemen.

[@geodrome]

The Bad Bug I want see it too!

[@grantvan791]

Yes please, do it

[@m-at-the-w142]

X2 I have always liked both (never owned the LR3 though). Went with the Touareg because of the on-road sportiness and more reliable air suspension (it's a well-known point of failure on the LRs but rarely fails on Touaregs).

[@jeffreystiner97]

Not much of a comparison. The LR3 has cross link valves that make it behave like a live axle when needed. Much better system than the Tourareg in terms of ability.

[@jeffreystiner97]

@@m-at-the-w142 Boy I gotta say I've seen lots of failures on both. Valve blocks fail like crazy on the VW.

[@Thomas-qk7wf]

Great to see love being thrown to older vehicles. Good on Tommy for reminding everyone what this vehicle is meant for. Trail running, not rock crawling. Well done, guys. Keep up the great work.

[@Nick-im3sm]

I've been running an 08 LR3 with HD for 3 years now, 1.5yrs in the midwest, and the rest in S. CA, and I gotta say it'll keep up with pretty much anything that isn't a Jeep Rubicon. I will tell you though, especially since you guys are running a tire over 31.5", BUY A LAND ROVER SPECIFIC FAULT-MATE! ..If you lose a height sensor (it happens..) or anything else malfunctions in the air suspension, your larger than stock tires will mean it'll stuff the tires into the wheel wells and basically immobilize the vehicle. With a fault-mate, you can reset things (these trucks use a can-bus system run on fiber optic... They can and will have sporadic faults, that just need cleared to be on your way) and even manually restore ride heights even with a failed sensor or 3. As far as OBD Fault-mates go, I find the best for the LR3/Disco 3 is the IID Gap tool. Optionally, it has bluetooth that allows it to be run from a smartphone app (works impressively well) plus, it'll allow you to ditch those Johnson Rods and go to standard ones. You can just program the suspension to set it's lift points higher if you want it higher via the app/Fault-mate.

[@Build0001]

This guy knows what he’s talking about

[@davidsteyn2231]

Excellent advice, thank you!

[@pulpanochamaster]

So are the lr3 reliable? As a toyota? Having those tools?

[@pulpanochamaster]

Which of the two tools is better? 🙄

[@Nick-im3sm]

@@pulpanochamaster My LR3 has been better over the last 3-ish years vs the 80 series I had before it. My 80 series suffered from hidden rust/water leakage issues not long after I bought it, mostly hidden under plastic covers and carpeting (something Land Rover has had a pretty good handle on for some time) so it suffered a lot of electrical issues as a result. Full tail light failure, HVAC failure, loss of speaker connections on the radio, repeated failed window regulator problems, usually when they were down (very annoying) door lock failure, EGR failure (4 times in 9 years) front inner axle seal failure (3 times in 9 years) and poor brakes. I looked at the 100 series as a replacement, but every one I looked at had started to rust in the same way, behind plastic panels, and just honestly felt dated, like it'd never made it out of the 90's. People always think of Toyota and think it's the best thing on the planet because they're supposedly reliable and will last forever. Well if you live in the desert, maybe.. But if you drive in varied locations all over the country, they rot. I've had friends who've run into ABS pump failure on the 100 series and it's cost thousands to replace, and does immobilize the car off road, since they need the pump for the ATRAC to work. Then there's ATRAC itself. It's just not very good. It spins the wheels a LOT before it starts to work and just seems to struggle too much. Basically you'd need aftermarket lockers. Newer ones are hopefully improved over the older ones in all categories but they're also just as full of electrics as any Land Rover, so any perceived benefit is null. Plus they still suffer from the same stupid seating design in the back. The 2 biggest benefits I've found are initial purchase price on the Land Rover (I could buy one, and lose it and buy another, and still be money ahead on the same year/miles Land Cruiser) and the versatility of the load bay in the back, with the LR3's fully flat load floor with seats folded, where Toyotas use flip forward seats in the middle (eats up load floor length) and the useless flip up to the side 3rd row which eats a ton of room. Luckily they remove, but on the LR3 I don't have to worry about that. With the IID tool I'm able to basically block off any malfunctioning computer components, should I run into any (none so far in 60k+ miles) or in case of suspension malfunction, I can manually set the height on the car and shut the system down (very rarely if ever will you get airbag failure, it's 99.9% of the time it's a height sensor.) Mine's been all over the place even on trails usually traveled by dedicated built off road jeeps n' such, and despite being slower than something that's been modified, it seems to always figure out any traction issues and pulls through faultlessly. I had initially worried about CV axle strength and such, but I've found it can take one hell of a beating and I've yet to have much issue, besides tearing a CV boot open once when a stick got lodged in there. Had I stopped to check, it'd probably have been fine, but I didn't.. so it tore. Pulled the axle out, repacked new grease and re-booted the CV, and it's been fine ever since. Is it perfect? No. But it's a hell of a lot of 4wd for the price (used.. of course) and I've found the bonus being, not having to have a 2nd car for on the road journeys like I have with my past 4wd's, since the LR3/4 is shockingly composed on road for being so capable off road.

[@jamesc.5734]

What I like the most about your channel is you don't only get the dirt on 4 wheelers, you put dirt on 4X4's new and aged ones. ;O)

[@andrewward1887]

20 years as a JLR tech lr3 is a great vehicle see plenty of them with 200+k miles on them one of my favorites very capable off road

[@michaelwiencek9250]

How do you feel about the 4.4 na? Got one in my 07 Full Size RR. Heard great things about them *knock on wood*

[@andrewward1887]

@@michaelwiencek9250 pretty much will run forever if properly maintained keep the oil changed 4 to 5 thousand miles intervals

[@bazza2540]

Don't be afraid to do harder stuff. It'll be more difficult than you think to find something it can't tackle

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

You obviously don't luve in CO, there us stuff a half hour outside their front door that would total that mallcrawler. I have an offroad side by side that can't tackle stuff here in CO.

[@beenusirimanne]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 well m8, this 'mAlLcrAwleR' just happens to have had one of the most sophisticated Off road computers of its time, and a great reputation for off road capability. It really can go where it wants to; and I would know since I own one.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@beenusirimanne I will bet you a large pile of cash that they don't go down the backside of Saxon Mountain above Georgetown in this. Only if they want to see true carnage. I have the 2020 Can Am x3 xrc (which means rock crawler edition) and it is all it wants. It's fine for an unreliable SUV, but it is no wrangler Rubicon or Powerwagon.

[@beenusirimanne]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 Can't lie, I don't have a clue where that is. And of course, I'm not claiming invincibility for the vehicle. No manual lockers etc. Its far from perfect. I just felt u perhaps weren't quite familiar with how these things can deal with tough terrain. And damn, sounds like a nice rig u got there :D

[@SSYoung125]

The Nitto Grappler G2 is my go to tire it looks good handles very well in the city with a 60,000+ mile warranty and does good off road. If you're looking for a good off-road tire that actually has a mileage warranty I would highly highly highly recommend the Nitto Grappler G2

[@woke1127]

Thank you guys so much for showing where and how to get to the trail y’all went to. I don’t know about other people but I like to off-road but I don’t know very many places near the boulder area. Y’all should start doing this in every video. Keep up the good videos you guys!

[@300bhpton]

BTW - ACE (Active Cornering Enhancement) is a hydraulic reactive anti roll bar (anti sway) setup on the Discovery 2. Completely un-related to cross linked air suspension.

[@takiman1]

Love it. When you’re done with this one get a Range Rover l322 and do it up👌

[@EGGINFOOLS]

Nice to see you guys finding different trails. Nice video

[@Nomad784]

love how this channel hasnt gone all commercial and does 4x4 people can actually buy. don't change

[@Oldbugger64]

Great video, there seems to be a lot of love for Land Rover in the states, here in the U.K. they get a lot of stick, mostly from people who’ve never actually owned one. I own a Freelander 2, or LR2, and a Defender, fabulous vehicles, but I look after them properly, when the time comes for selling the LR2 the Disc is top of my list.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

Love the LR3/4. I’ll have one in the stable next to both my D2s one day.

[@user-fz3sz2dj4r]

Love the LR3 vids Tommy. Please make more! I bought one in part due to your guys’ vids

[@sketcham9234]

RSW Solutions (a guy who lives in Denver) offers a programming platform for the LR3/Range Rover Sport. With that you can change the air suspension ride height without the rods and also edit/update a lot of the software in the car.

[@freddieflanders]

The terrain response is so good you don’t need diff locks

[@jonathannoone4435]

Ture. You don't need the rear diff lock as traction / terrain performance so good. Also why it was never standard even on the top spec runout models.

[@MrStolarsky]

Bought exactly that car (2006 hse hd with two diff locks blue) and sold it 12 months later after putting in almost purchase price in repairs. I managed to sell for what I paid for. Loved every minute of it driving, hated the "Bing" sound announcing costly repairs.

[@03HemiCentralIN]

So, I had a comment. If you don't want to modify by using the rods you can get a gap iidtool which will also allow you to do more things. Basically factory tool. It can change the car config file, update/ reflash ecus all for $400 or $500 I can't remember. Also, I sent you an email tfl to your truck contact and offroad with advice and a service manual for your lr3. From one lr3 owner to another have fun. Mines an 06 lr3 4.4l non-hd package and it's a decent SE package with a 195,xxx miles on her around the farm.

[@Peter-tc3ep]

Funny I have the new Disco, the terrain response is so good that I haven’t bothered using the rear diff lock even when going through some pretty interesting stuff up at moose head lake Maine. No problems with old unused logging roads even after many winters of larger rocks eroding through or going through some streams. It always feels very confident, it’s amazing how much further we’ve been able to explore, it replaced a Gle.

[@drsnapid]

All my buddies hate my Disco 3. They have Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers, but in reality, they are almost all aftermarket. The have changed exhausts, suspension, tuning, wheels, on and on and on, and my disco just goes everywhere the way it rolled off the lot. It flogs them in the dirt drags, does the "big wheels and lockers only" tracks without lockers, sleeps me and 2 kids in the back, tows 3.5T, looks great. Uses less fuel, too. And by the way, there isnt anything wrong with the 4.0L petrol. Really there isnt. Will find it hard to part with. Enjoy yours. Great video

[@Lukecase2]

I own a 06 lr3 on 2.5 inch lift with 33 x 12.5 mud tires it has 200,000 miles and is still running strong I absolutely love this truck and I plan to put a diesel cummins when the engine gives out.

[@The1979_]

Lr3 is the modern classic. Note it down. After 5 years you’ll look for a clean one but you will not be able to find it. Keep yours. Great car, all time unique.

[@robbyjohnsoniii2508]

Rhino!!!! Guy probably regrets selling this beast with all the official add ons he did!!! I had an 05' for 11 years.

[@engineergaming4295]

Lmao my dad still owns a bone stock LR3 (he added a Land Rover brush guard, tailgate ladder, and Land Rover roof rack) but all the parts are OEM, yeah they’ve been replaced (OEM Air struts and air compressor) and the paint is in good condition, no scratches (there is a coin sized dent on the rear quarter panel)

[@bosse641]

Nice. That's as extreme I would ever go off-roading. And that LR3 is making it look very easy. Great. Would love to own it.

[@WW-wf8tu]

Cool series. Look forward to it. I like that you identified your location and even how to get to it. Beautiful place. I am surprised Tommy is not sobbing over the change from the last LRD to this LRD3. lol Your history lessons are very helpful. Especially for those that have no idea. The "1sts" that you speak of, are the reasons I went with my TRD 4Runner. Nice to have a leg up on the basics. Good name for that rig. lol I wish you the best experience with this rig. May it take you to and from and beyond. I don't think the lack of the rear locker will hold the LRD3 back.

[@brucemacaulay4331]

Wish we had trails like that in Scotland. My 2006 disco3 is on 200000 miles, still running great. Happy that with the 2.7 diesel it still does 29mpg. Definitely the sweet spot of utility and comfort.

[@lfsracer79]

4:12 The coolest thing - until it breaks...

[@Megacatares]

you scared.

[@TVR161]

My Discovery 4 Doesn't have the rear locker and I have never felt I've needed it. The consensus from people I've spoken to is that it won't really get you any further up the trail, It'll just make it a bit easier than with only terrain response. I have a few videos of what I've done in mine in Australia.

[@kichaa13]

pro tip - the bleed screw fitting on the cooling system is plastic and has a habit of breaking. This can lead to an overheat and kill the motor. Swap it out for a metal fitting.

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks for the tip!

[@YubertOffroad]

I recommend this metal bleed screw. www.crossaxledcustoms.com/products/land-rover-discovery-3-4-lr3-lr4-range-rover-sport-rrs-coolant-bleed-valve-t-fitting-heavy-duty-upgrade.html

[@anzaczob214]

I got the same 2006 td 2.7 in australia. This is unexpected beast, just add 33” all terrain tyres and it will never disappoint anyone.

[@Ganbala]

Hi guys from Florida. From a Land Rover Owner I can say Is not the Fastesñtruck Is not the Best fuel Economic truck But this truck is State Art and is very over engineering for the time .. nothing closed today ..... trust me is the best 4x4 System in the Market ... And the nick name my son put to the truck is ..Rover..

[@Ganbala]

@Game Bred Duramax You forgot who bring the coffee.... Jeep lol.

[@Crashryding]

Game Bred Duramax yes, yes, YESSSSSS,!!! FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING SENSE 👌🏼👍🏼 I’ve had a 40 series, 60 series! 80 and lastly a 100 series. They all had a little work done to them and were unstoppable! Even with IFS the 100 was a monster (I didn’t manage to get the diesel so I ended up with the 4.7 V8, same as the Lexus 570.) The only problem I’ve ever had is that I’ve never managed to have a 76 series (Full body SUV version of the 70 series single cab pickup, Ute, bakki, depending on where you’re from) I’ve also had Hilux’s for work for the last 15 years and much like Jeremy Clarkson, I couldn’t kill them either!😂 Sadly I’m currently in a Nissan Navara but am n the lookout for an FJ Cruiser from r thee family.....damn I rambled on there...

[@The1979_]

Game Bred Duramax 🤮

[@benmontgomery634]

We own Rhino now- just came back from Buena Vista from Alabama with him!

[@Simonandisla]

Have a look at 4xoverland channel with the LR4 doing Baboons pass in Lesotho, South Africa...now that's a difficult track. I've a defender 90 and had it for 6 years and love it, but the Disco 3's and 4's have become so very affordable now so got me thinking like you too. Nice video guys 👍🇬🇧

[@warowner9]

weird how it is so different on other parts of the world. I live in europe where we have diesel engine's in both the disco 2 & 3 and the disco 2 is loads better than the disco 3. The td5 engine is super reliable whilst the 2.7 v6 is one of the worst in terms of reliability.

[@pistonhedd]

Discovery 2, the best of 'em all imo. My parents owned one for six years it was a 2002MY Td5 GS Manual in 5 seat spec, it towed a caravan AND went off-road or Greenlaning whichever you want to call it. Yes it had it's gremlin's but which Disco doesn't - even series 1's weren't perfect. The D3 is ok I suppose, just to me it doesn't look a rugged as the D1 or D2, but each to their own.

[@Thunder_Yoda]

I have the TDV6. It's doing great, as long as you don't stick to the manufacturer's maintenance schedule. All failures are either turbo failure, conrod bearing failure or crankshaft bearing failure. The intervals are just too long. Couple that with EGR delete (more heat) and you have a sure way to make that engine seize.

[@RyRyWags]

Always nice to see the beautiful scenery when I'm stuck in a cubicle all day!

[@paladin11C40]

I am glad you did a video on this vehicle, I am looking at buying my wife a LR4 in the coming months. The 3 and 4 are pretty similar I think with capability.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

Warlock 06 LR 4 is just better. It’s more refined and reliable. The later model, the better. LR3 is also a fine truck but it’s more of a labor of love.

[@Carsongore]

Actually drivetrain wise the LR3 is far superior. LR4’s have water pump, timing chain and injector issues, the LR3 doesn’t.

[@donmckee90]

Nucl3ar Family LR3 has the more reliable engine. 4.4

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

Nucl3ar Family the motor is far more reliable in the LR3 and the rest of the truck is basically the same.

[@paladin11C40]

The LR4 came with two different engines, the 5.0L V8 and 3.0L V6 supercharged. Which one of the engines are you talking about? The 5.0L did have some issues when first came out, from what I can tell the 3.0L V6 supercharged did not have the same problems. If I do buy a LR4 it will be the 2016 since that was the last year they made it and it came with the 3.0L V6 supercharged. From what I read the LR4 is a better more refined vehicle.

[@nasen2727]

I love this generation of Discovery so much ! With it's rugged design and off road abilities... Great choice you guys !

[@rickysafer2895]

I would like to see you guys take a regular 1500 model truck 4X4 , no after market stuff on it out on a trail like this. Thanks on the information on how to get to this trail, beautiful views.

[@transalp1983]

i totally like your channel. Congrats from Italy

[@2403rygar]

I have an LR3 with the HD package. It is amazing off-road.

[@oogiev2]

For 7 grand a rhino, I hope you can afford to feed it and pay the vet bills. Thanks for the video and information.

[@AllForTheBetter]

Im doing the same! Getting rid of my DII and moving to a D3. looking forward to the next video

[@JohnBtons]

Love the directions to the trail locations! hope its a new feature that sticks around!

[@rovereddy2431]

Just got my lR3 and it’s amazing

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

I have those exact 7" auxbeams on my Jeep and your not kidding they are super powerful and heavy weighing in at 14 lbs for the two. Also have that 7" bar from auxbeam which works excellent also in a flood pattern.

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

As a matter of fact I am getting a fabricator this saturday to weld reinforcements on my mopar light bar brackets to stop the constant shaking of it when I'm driving not joking! Lol.

[@bwl0316]

In Europe you can get 2.7 liter turbo diesel v6. May not have as much hp as the Ford v6 (190 hp 450 torque) but it still gets it moving. My dream car, hope to get one someday, HSE would be lovely

[@TheSzelvesz27]

Nicest and best looking car lucky to have one wish to drive in your mountains..

[@EcBuddy123]

You need a 4th gen 4 runner. I feel like I say this everytime haha

[@Gorillanilla]

EcBuddy123 agreed.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

But that would be boringly reliable 😂👍🏼

[@fredbrackely]

@@josephwhiskeybeale with the emphasis on "boring." and not as good off-road.

[@donmckee90]

The Toyota's traction capability is not even close. You would need lockers on the Toyota to compare it with the LR3 traction system.

[@andrevanderwalt2515]

As a point of interest: Disco 2 had a face-lift, that ( in Australia at least) got you the center difflock. The center diff is the same as the Disco, but LR reconed the TC would take care of the power transfer to where it is needed.

[@AlexLR]

If you like the Disco 3 you’ll love an L322. The tdv8 is a great engine, many here in the U.K. are well over 200k miles. If you look after your Land Rover it’ll look after you!

[@christianditlev4724]

Isn't it too long ago since you published this video? We NEEED more of the D3/LR3 videos PLEASE!!! I have a D3 myself, and am thrilled to see how well it does on your trails in the US.. Thanks for your great channel!

[@MishaAutos]

nice editing,has that mini tv series vibe to it keep up the good work

[@adxangeles7842]

they like the air suspension in this lr3, bet they'll love the new defender...

[@Kimbrough87]

Good truck I average 23 miles per gallon on the highway in mine I have the hse 2006 LR3💪🏾💪🏾😉

[@koopspook]

Dang, I could've used those extra MPGs in my trips to Arizona from California. I get 19 mpg in the 2010 hemi Grand cherokee. When looking for a good 4x4 I looked at everything and ended up between the Lr3 and Grand Cherokee. I think the only part that spooked me was the air suspension. Everything else like interior was the best looking for sure in the LR

[@atodaso1668]

no you don't, you might see that on the instant meter or you were going downhill.

[@03HemiCentralIN]

@@atodaso1668 Lr3 don't have instant meters and yes it's pretty easy to get good mpg like that in an lr3 on the highway.

[@chefdan87]

Ahh Land Rovers, when running they're great...

[@bananapeal2664]

Very correct

[@noawelsh8273]

chefdan87 amen to that brother

[@giorgostatarakis3165]

do arb lockers front and rear to really make it off road worthy

[@The1979_]

Giorgos Tatarakis No need that. Terrain response and central diff(standart) is adequate

[@donmckee90]

Yeah these things are unstoppable with the standard setup

[@ericktorres6542]

You definitely don't need that, it's just enough with a set of KO2's cause that thing is heavy as f... And the drive will improve tons

[@letstrythisagainforreal]

Not one LR3 has successfully been outfitted with arb lockers. Just can’t do it without +5k. I was lucky to get a HD package. Wish you could manually lock the rear but it only goes on when the computer says so. Ie in rock crawl

[@donmckee90]

@@letstrythisagainforreal Where the heck did you get that info? Also that factory locker has an extremely high fail rate

[@karimalameddine5092]

You can also use proud rhinos which sit on top of the air springs to give you a lift/bump stop and act most importantly if the air suspension fail and the car is sitting lower. You can also use a system called x lifter to manually adjust the height on each wheel which is super amazing when sleeping in the car on uneven terrain (-:

[@tigerhawk84]

Honestly that is a lot of vehicle for 7 grand considering the condition it is in.

[@robbyjohnsoniii2508]

Great vehicle had 05' for 11 years! Watch the air suspension leaks can cause air compressor repairs, if or when it breaks it'll be a good grand easy.

[@TheSzelvesz27]

Best and nicest car!!!happy to owe one!!!wish to drive in your mountains...

[@robertburn8705]

Did Tommy just say it has Johnson rods? I thought it was a Seinfeld gag?

[@MarkVinewood]

I think I will have to disagree with Roman here: yeah, the Discovery 4 was more advanced than the Discovery 3 but the way I see it, they took an already proven platform and fixed a lot of big things that were not so great about it. Then came Disco 5 which looked like the love child of Disco 4 and RR Evoque. So if I were to pick one of them, it'd be the Disco 4. But another great video guys!

[@anthonydotb]

You guys have the absolute best content. The only thing missing from your lineup is an FJ...

[@andrearomano7077]

Awesome ride! Doesn't it also kinda compete with your Touareg? I would love to see a comparison between Rhino, ToughT and the LC TFLPro! :)

[@aubsarg0222]

I have an LR3 and mine doesn’t look nearly as nice I got the basic model. It’s a beast off roading. It has issues though, can you make some videos showing how to fix the common issues or make a video on what to remember to maintenance on this model and what to expect to go wrong?

[@americanrover3865]

I have a 2006 LR3 with the locking rear diff. I do about 60-70% of my driving off road. I've got the Grappler G2's and I don't air down. I have had CJs, TJs, Cherokees, Grand Wagoneers... This truck is more reliable, more comfortable, more economical, and, all in all, more better.(had to stick with the "mores") I'm at about130K, my mechanic tells me she's got 130K more in her. I vowed not to by another vehicle until the new Defender came out. I'm waiting for you guys to do a comparison, so I know whether or not to hold onto this one or upgrade.

[@alexanderdepreter5118]

The new defender looks to be an LR4 replacement for sure. But it's not a real defender in my book. also the lack of a lader frame hurts driving with big trailers. Still think the LR4 is the best allrounder.

[@fredbrackely]

Ditch the lift rods, buy a GAP2 OBD device and simply have the height programmed into it. Then with a touch of your phone you can make any custom corrections you want and much more also, like custom program options, fault codes, etc etc. Well worth the money lads. The ride on the LR is not as good as LC with its thousands of dollars of new suspension setup vs old original airbags on the LR?

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

fredbrackely I second getting a Gap but also keeping the rods and dialing in the perfect height. The amount of lift you can get through the tool is inconsistent with each truck and you won’t be able to get the full height that you would get with the rods.

[@fredbrackely]

@@andrewhovanetz3525 Best is to set your heights on a flat concrete surface and measure each wheel trim height with a tape measure and fine tune with the GAP. Mine looked something like FR +53, FL +50, RR +65 RL +60 to make it level haha. I think the gap goes up to +75, so you might be right with the rods. I have never tried them. I just wish the GAP was a cheaper. I forgot to add lads, with the GAP tool you can buy a new blank key off ebay and program it for a quarter of the cost of the dealership.

[@Hiluxtaco]

Hopefully the air suspension in this Land Rover doesn't fail them as many times as it did on Doug DeMuro's Land Rover... LOL

[@CPUspeed]

Watching 2020 Mercedes gle review on straight pipes. The air suspension bounce control is sick.

[@jep1912]

We're a two Disco family, a 3 and a 4. I prefer the 3 and it's been conquering Australia for the last 6 years with us. The Australians hate it as it's not a V8 fridge on wheels haha. Couldn't give a...! Long live the Disco, looking forward to driving the new Defender in 2020.

[@KangoV]

Had my Disco 3 now for 12 years. All good still. My engine has 240hp and 600 Nm or 442 lb.ft @ 2000 rpm (diesel) and get 30 mpg (combined). Would never get the petrol.

[@dudeonther1978]

Oh I had an 06 HSE. I loved it so much! I really miss that truck! I’ve driven it through several floods with ease! I’ve also had to pick up stranded coworkers in complicated muddy training areas.

[@buckhornimports]

There is no "Active Cornering Enhancement" on a L319. C'mon Tommy

[@user-fz3sz2dj4r]

YES. Been looking at these for a while. How many kms on yours?

[@jasonvorhees4906]

LR4 - or Disco 4, is an evolution of the LR3 and I’d say the LR4 is the sweet spot; it’s actually more reliable than the 3 but keeps the off road ability whilst being more luxurious. Love both the 3 and 4 though.

[@donmckee90]

Jason Vorhees The Late model LR3 is the sweet spot. It's more reliable because it has the 4.4 V8 that goes forever. The 5.0 in the LR4 had timing chain issues

[@zrglb]

We need Rhino vs. ToughT video!

[@m-at-the-w142]

YEES!!!!

[@keywound6728]

i own an 03 discovery 2 with all the upgrades, drive train wise, part of the attraction to it is the accessibility of the engine components. its easy to work on. the lr3 seems to be difficult to work on or get under. ITS A GIRLY CAR . you should have just gone with a Subaru

[@TrailRunn4r]

Thanks a lot for the info on the trail! Can’t wait to run it with my 4Runner 💯

[@Discoveryjamie]

Don’t you get the centre diff lock standard in USA?

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

If it’s still running by the end of the video I’d call it a win.

[@lr4428]

Love my disco 3, great vid guys👍

[@300bhpton]

The Discovery 2 was an all new vehicle, it might have visually shared the look of the Disco 1, but shares no parts at all. The p38a Range Rover was also all new, as was the L322 Range Rover.....

[@pistonhedd]

D2 is my fav. out of all the series. Ppl moaned on for years about 'complicated' and 'sophisticated' electrics on D2's then along came D3, D4, D-sport and D5 which went back to 'stoneage' technology - like series LRs from 1948 :P

[@CarswithNash]

Nice! Now run it up the Rocky Top trail.

[@audionut9974]

Working for land rover the discovery 4 is actually more reliable then the dico 3 they fixed all the minor issues with 3

[@ChuckRage]

What would you say are the most common reliability issues with the 3?

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

That’s just a false statement (at least in the US). The LR4 has all of the same “issues” that the LR3 has except the 4.4V8 is far more reliable than the problem ridden 5.0V8....

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

TheNicknack43 they’re fairly reliable, as air suspension ages you will need to maintain is some. Diffs, transfer case, and transmission fluid should be changed out every 75k. Front LCA bushings like to go bad as well as the tie rods.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

This is true, LR 4 is a very damn good truck.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

andrew hovanetz incorrect.

[@rl9810]

What additional electronics does the LR4 have over the LR3? They're essentially the exact same vehicle, with the LR4 having a different engine, a different interior, and an exterior facelift.

[@donmckee90]

R L LR4 adds an additional terrain mode.

[@rl9810]

@@donmckee90 But that would just be an additional program and not more electronics, right?

[@kichaa13]

Yea they're off on that.

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

donmckee90 what additional terrain mode are you talking about?

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

I wouldn't knock the D2 too much it's pretty awesome compared to the D1 having traction control and being a little more refined especially if you have a D2 with the ace system it is pretty uniquely good on and off road when that system works in both ways that it does in high or low range. I have one and it's not super unreliable you just have to maintain it take care of it don't just drive it like it's some Toyota Corolla that you can park and completely neglect

[@Pablo_Jerry]

The L322 Range Rover had terrain response and went to the "modern format" independent suspension and air springs years before the LR3 came out.

[@alexanderdepreter5118]

Not true , only the 1st facelift L322 had terain response. Pre facelifted L322 had a Torsen center diff just like an audi and the first generation BMW X5

[@Pablo_Jerry]

@@alexanderdepreter5118 fair enough, I forgot about those. Still had the suspension set up though.

[@noneofyourbuisness7]

the Disco 3 is honestly one of the few used Land Rover's I would recommend. It's actually fairly reliable compared to the Disco 2

[@dylantodd9574]

Wait this has a lift on it? Is that common considering the air suspension?

[@574104]

Loving where this is going with this LR3

[@brittenhigham6872]

Dad loves his lr3 has alot of issues about is still cheaper then buying a new car!

[@jackkruese9929]

I’ve got a Landrover, they are the best of road. No there probably not as reliable as Japanese competition and it WILL need maintenance. But if looked after there’s no competition

[@BJJandBS]

How are the new land rovers in comparison?

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

Y’all need to take both the LR3 and the Land Cruiser out and test out their snorkels with some water fording.

[@The1979_]

Joseph Whiskey Beale plus; test them with the only central diff activated. You’ll see the differance. LR3 is by far better off roading. Without 3 lockers Land Cruiser is useless.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

Well may happen to be correct, but somehow I doubt many LR3s make it to 300k miles.

[@koopspook]

@@josephwhiskeybeale this day and age though 300k is nothing special anymore

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

576575s it would be for a Land Rover.

[@The1979_]

Joseph Whiskey Beale actually it can, if you maintain it well of course. İn my opinion and experience; Land Rover is a better car, much more sophiscated and better design. On the other hand Toyota’s parts lasts longer. İ prefer Land Rover but i respect Toyota but it’s not the design i wanna live with. İt’s boring. By the way my friend has a Lr3, he drives off road like a defender. He breaks it, pushes it hard for years and after 15 years there’s no rust! Zero. İt’s unveleivable. On the other hand 15 years old Land Cruisers has rusty panels everywhere.

[@thecarlab768]

Mine has the typical sunroof leak. Water shorted the suspension module. There’s always something wrong with these air suspensions so I just gave up and converted to coil springs. Dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree. Im 100% sure the LR3 is going to outperform that Land Cruiser

[@jaw0449]

LR3, LR4, or RR? For overlanding