Ok so for the uphill dirt test there are some things that SCS needs to work on. There will be a big difference between an empty trailer and a loaded trailer. It all has something to do with axle weights. An 8x6 with an empty trailer will perform worse than a 4x2 with an empty trailer because there is less weight in each axle, if one axle starts slipping on the 8x6, the rest will follow because its losing momentum. Load it up and the 8x6 can use all his axles in the right way because there's more pressure on each axle. This is one of the many reasons a lot of company's have liftable axles.
@herzglass3 жыл бұрын
But the 4x2 will experience a torque around the powered axle because of the trailer drag. The 6x4 with diff lock will have its rear axle pushed hard into the ground. Am I wrong? Also, liftable axis aren't powered.
@21babydew3 жыл бұрын
@@herzglass yes liftable axles are not powered however due to the location of the 5th wheel which can be adjusted on some trucks if neccessary the 5th wheel is typically almost perfectly in the middle of the drive axles or in the tri axle right on the middle axle / slightly forward to keep weight on the front steer axle which results in almost equal weights on both axles especially in trucks with walking beam suspension and other such heavy duty suspensions which pivot both axles equally unlike air bags in which they float independitly. so on a airbag truck which would never see this type of situation yes the rear axle could see more weight but in a heavy duty truck like a dump truck or heavy haul truck no the weight would be near equal on both drive axles.
@herzglass3 жыл бұрын
@@21babydew Thank you for your elaboration. It's beyond doubt the physics in the game need some tweeking.
@RichManSCTV03 жыл бұрын
Nice testing map btw!
@tt-nm4yj3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find it?
@szewei853 жыл бұрын
Mod websites i guess
@goliathprojects73543 жыл бұрын
The 8x6 with the one axle trailer is so overkill and I love it.
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
Professional powerlifter transporting empty bag better than school-boy)))
@JK-uy8yi3 жыл бұрын
'Yeah just put the first 6 pallets in sideways double-double-double and single-double-single the rest of the way back'
@TheClumsyGeekGaming3 жыл бұрын
Great tests! Glad to see the chassis options actually do make a difference on the truck's performance. Thanks for the vid!
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
In ETS 2 1.4 we can see 4x2 truck jumping when tries to pull 25+ tons by flat road. Contact area is too small for this task. In this video we can see the same: 8x6 has triple contact area + 4 tons extra weight, 6x4 has double contact area + 2 tons extra weight, 4x2 has smallest contact area, length and weight.
@SparrowRz3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how many wheels you have, SCS have a lot of work to do with grip, traction and downhill inertia, physics need to be improved
@alexsurh14723 жыл бұрын
Yea they need to transfer the game to a new engine even if that takes years, it will be worth it
@icecreaminc80133 жыл бұрын
yes cos driving a truck and load weighing 34 tonnes up a 45% incline happens in the real world. /sarcasm
@techforthedisabled95143 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Ward4133 жыл бұрын
I also really wish they would simulate chassis twist better. The Cascadia in real life has huge amounts of torque twist in lower gears. The Kenworth's I've driven felt a bit more stable with less body roll. But the trucks are definitely too rigid in ATS and ETS. Accelerating at wide open throttle in the game you should see the cab rocking back and forth more between shifting, at least in the lower gears when you're getting the most torque.
@jeanlafrance87463 жыл бұрын
@@Ward413 completely agree! That was what I love the most about driving trucks in real life, feeling the torque twisting and squatting the cab
@BerndFunken3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see if the new "Heavy Duty" tires make any difference.
@dedyarief9963 жыл бұрын
It's no difference, they dont have an actual stats like in ets so it's just for cosmetic/look
@EdwardZNorton3 жыл бұрын
heavy duty tires? you mean the offroad tires right?
@sheppardpat473 жыл бұрын
When a loaded truck is faster than your car at a 0-100 lmao
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
The empty trailer is only for better contact with surface. 650 HP / 8 tons = 81.25 HP per ton. Usual car have 100 HP / 1 ton = 100 HP per ton. A truck accelerates and decelerates slower usually.
@haxicgamerhun3 жыл бұрын
1:30 I think this gate is taken from an older SCS game called Trucks&Trailers.
@pqhkr20023 жыл бұрын
Someone have tested in ETS2 that automatic transmission is not good at hill climbing. //edit: wrong reply. lol
@faydulaksono3 жыл бұрын
@@pqhkr2002 hmmm maybe this sometime my truck suddenly stuck ..is it bug?
@pqhkr20023 жыл бұрын
@@faydulaksono Maybe.
@Bremend3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was from the secret track in Arizona?
@MrBeazT273 жыл бұрын
@@Bremend yes, you thought right xd
@thehobo003 жыл бұрын
I've barely heard of this game and I was suggested it on KZbin. And yet I find myself watching it entirely. Nice job editing!
@GewelReal3 жыл бұрын
That moment, when a truck does a 0-60 sprint faster than your car
@Hartbreak13 жыл бұрын
I understand why there was another truck for the 4x2 test but the automatic transmission really sucks for uphill testing 😂.
@gibattiston3 жыл бұрын
make a tire comparasion, off-road vs normal
@StudioDaVeed3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is there is no difference in tire manufacturer or styles modeled in. Pure looks.
@lexik2233 жыл бұрын
@@StudioDaVeed In ATS it really isn't. In ETS there is a difference a for example ability to keep traction on water makes a huge diference on each tire. ;-)
@StudioDaVeed3 жыл бұрын
@@lexik223 Ok, cool...odd they build the sister sims so differently....
@flareside2593 жыл бұрын
@@lexik223 Only tire in ATS that is different is the heavy duty tire. It has a different roll resistance and wet grip.
You should test it with Volvo. It has 8x6, 6x4, 4x2.
@fabyanraiferlangga59783 жыл бұрын
Volvo has 8x4 not 8x6
@vratislavtupecjr.94983 жыл бұрын
@@fabyanraiferlangga5978 ok.
@curtisnoble.3 жыл бұрын
Should’ve had diff lock on the dirt traction test
@thevashfan123929 ай бұрын
with the new 8x4 midlift, you get quite a bit of most worlds except shorter turn radius it allows me to get 6 MPG on a 300 gallon tank with heavy hauling as a lucrative option and run almost all loads on just one tank of fuel. coos bay to fort worth is the only one that requires a refuel right now and getting this amazing 1800 mile range is legendary.
@afluffypinecone35773 жыл бұрын
Why did you test it with a 7 speed? An 18 speed would've made more sense, that's why it exists
@yanis60033 жыл бұрын
you should test with 18 gears transmission
@pqhkr20023 жыл бұрын
Someone have tested in ETS2 that automatic transmission is not good at hill climbing.
@philosopherqhamilekabeni59043 жыл бұрын
the 8x6 had more potential uphill. Impressive
@Void_s3 жыл бұрын
Well, technically it's a fully AWD cart with just a pair of steer non-drive wheels))
@guplay20323 жыл бұрын
in that last test say goodbye to the clutch
@EdwardZNorton3 жыл бұрын
nice little video, only problem is runnin a 7spd pickup transmission, you'd get better stats with an 18 speed using the granny gears
@KartikPlays2 жыл бұрын
TGM: Compares all chassis Me who plays v1.0.0: Interesting.
@JesseEder3 жыл бұрын
Great video TGM :)
@OoogaBoog3 жыл бұрын
My simulator clutch just had a heart attack on that incline.
@glenpease4533 жыл бұрын
i advise people to watch this video and think of when you see a tractor trailer trying to pull out (give them room) got to think of your serounding's and others around you i seen truckers get hurt by those that dont pay attention so keep in mind they cant turn as good as you can so please give them room :)
@dan24043 жыл бұрын
That's good idea. Make more videos like this!
@cvguerra87473 жыл бұрын
awesome video, nice comparison
@gregorydayton54283 жыл бұрын
Nice Job, very cool test!
@theblitz16873 жыл бұрын
in the traction test 8x6 didnt have enough torque so it could go even further :) id like to see some cornering tests between these trucks
@teamidris3 жыл бұрын
Tarmac hill test looks right. The only difference was truck mass vs distance. Coefficient of friction doesn’t care about the number of wheels. - Turning circle is a lot less simple. With 10 ton per rear axel the 4x2 will be the same radius all the time. The 6x4 will really try to go in a strait line and the Oshkosh tri-drive is so bad it is 8x8x4 with a rear steer axel. - As a side note a double drive with a lot of weight behind it up a steep incline will lift the front axel of the road and then it doesn’t steer at all :o)
@HectorReyes19783 жыл бұрын
awesome video, now i can see that is really a difference between them ...thanks a lot
@smittsluchianoTV3 жыл бұрын
when u fail to lock the dif on dirt roads lol
@RubberburnerGaming3 жыл бұрын
Cool video.... would be interesting to see stopping potential, and maybe a "moose" test (quick manure test with a higher centre of gravity, and heavy load to see which is more likely to tip over)
@theodorespittnikov54703 жыл бұрын
TY I had looking for this kind of comparation
@4_SJR3 жыл бұрын
test track download?
@nzchariboy3 жыл бұрын
i can smell the clutch from here
@user-xe7gh1os3s3 жыл бұрын
Yes you did it! Kenworth w900!😄😄😄😲😲
@tractor6x43 жыл бұрын
very cool your video! would pass the link to download this map?
@David-oj4lq3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks
@DeathRaven.3 жыл бұрын
Every time a video comes up on this game I wish had a PC that could handle it. My laptop can barely run it on the lowest graphics.
@Catonaut.3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to do a turning radius video with the HCT Trailer versions in ETS 2.
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Poor ETS2!😭
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann Hey, What's Your Favourite New Update For 1.41?🤔
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann And I Love Drivers/Trucks/Trailers Visible On The Road With CB Radio And Real Sound Motor Engine Trucks With Update Turbo Sound.
@winfield3473 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann ets2 pisses all over ats.
@SouthEastTrainspotter3 жыл бұрын
@@winfield347 Yes but both games are good i own both i like ets2 more
@winfield3473 жыл бұрын
@@SouthEastTrainspotter me 2.and I like ets2 better as well.it's a more realistic drive.the only thing you don't get is when you bin in a truck for 2 days and nights when you get back in a car it feels like a go kart.
@ZombieKiller7893 жыл бұрын
Also Auto and manual make a big difference; and dont forget the driver
@ZombieKiller7893 жыл бұрын
Sorry but SCS has some work to do
@tt-nm4yj3 жыл бұрын
Why did the 6*4 start in 2nd gear?
@YungRolex3 жыл бұрын
No reason to start in lower gears if you can handle higher gear starts.
@Duvstep9103 жыл бұрын
@@YungRolex its an automated manual transmission (still a pure automatic for me). It chooses the best gear to start in based on a whole load of factors. If you wanna start in a lower gear; play the game with the manual transmission setting.
@alberplays76333 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Great video.
@alphagambit35383 жыл бұрын
i like the ideal of this test and the map is great however i might want to make 1 suggestion.... try using the same truck manufacturer like mack they have all 3 chassis on one truck and would be a better teset since the first truck you have is definatley light then the w900 is so me personally i cant look at that as a propper test, Other wise i think the video is pretty cool!
@Mike256543 жыл бұрын
The traction test was not traction but power. If you used a proper transmission you would have gone further with all of them.
@2boredfortv3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation!
@Filenga3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video!
@waldemarfilho_br71853 жыл бұрын
The volvo vnl have all chassis type
@TGMStefa3 жыл бұрын
Correct, but only 8x4 no 8x6
@waldemarfilho_br71853 жыл бұрын
@@TGMStefa its true..
@MC27383 жыл бұрын
Darn I wanted an 8x6 for the Volvo :c
@versianimoreira3 жыл бұрын
SCS, the best truck simulators!
@Herobryce10753 жыл бұрын
8x6 may not be the fastest or most maneuverable, but it'll get you up a mountain.
@sambosomethin78443 жыл бұрын
so would the 6x4 or 4x2. Mountains arent that steep
@ItzChaza3 жыл бұрын
@@sambosomethin7844 he cheated the 8x6 up the asphalt hill using the handbreak bug, basically when you apply the handbreak and full throttle away but the truck doesnt move because its on a hill ect it keeps randomly jumping forward like seen in this video
@RememberTheFalklands3 жыл бұрын
Played for years. Should not like it. But... I love this game. This vid made me love it more... no idea why, on both counts 🤣
@Turgineer2 жыл бұрын
The more wheels, the less weight per axle. 4x2 is best if you don't really carry loads.
@KenworthmanJRS3 жыл бұрын
The turning radius test isn't exactly fair because the T680 is a set back front axle configuration where the W900 is a set forward front axle. Both truck with the same rear axle configuration the T680 would still turn tighter
@dungeonlord3 жыл бұрын
another comment for re-doing the test using an 18 speed for the hill climbs and locking in 1 gear instead of shifting
@GulfCoastTim3 жыл бұрын
Great video here
@Invocated_Agitator2 жыл бұрын
You should have tested 6x2 too. it has tighter cornering than 6x4, because the pushing axle is closer to the front axle.
@user-xe7gh1os3s3 жыл бұрын
4x2 Kenworth w900 that I vote
@kamata933 жыл бұрын
It would be more interesting testing a truck which has all chassis options and something along the line of 400-500 bhp. To my mind comes the Mack Anthem which I believe has all chassis options.
@LegendMuscle3 жыл бұрын
Ooo 8x6 is slower. Surprised.. This wouldve been a nice update for the logging dlc
@MegaLol2xd3 жыл бұрын
guess why... it's heavier lol.
@MANTRAKKK3 жыл бұрын
awesome. thx
@sghsdhdkfh3 жыл бұрын
i like all of them
@SOU69003 жыл бұрын
😆 A tridem doesn't look right pulling a 28 foot pup trailer. I hope you also locked your power dividers when you did the dirt road hill climb.
@Jalter-kun3 жыл бұрын
To honest I forget 4x2 excited I never see it in ATS
@cobaltraven31943 жыл бұрын
I know the chassis are good but both Peterbilt and Kenworth need their C 15 Caterpillar 720 motor
@TimiCAR3 жыл бұрын
where can i find the map?
@jeandanev3 жыл бұрын
Good job 👌
@tatusmachine013 жыл бұрын
Nice videos man! By the way, I don't like the way the engines sounds, so what are the best mods for sound?
@henriqueem023 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work to have 3 axles pulling if the weight is divided between them, you need to have weight on them to make a difference, the weight makes pulling better
@peet_velkey26713 жыл бұрын
NIce testing
@szewei853 жыл бұрын
Haha cool. Need 2 test 8x6 soon. Been driving 8x4 many days. Hahahaha.
@WayneKerr69420 Жыл бұрын
They need to rework the t680 and 579
@uraveragemobileplayer59173 жыл бұрын
Nice
@MegaLol2xd3 жыл бұрын
you've used wrong transmission, btw irl its impossible for Allison to handle 600hp engine anyways.
@patrienastanley50983 жыл бұрын
I know four by two trucks are actually the best in ATS
@hp_32663 жыл бұрын
Now we just need a testing map for ets2 that works with the new 1.40 update...
@da6d3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t got a fucking clue what I’m watching, but big truck
@aaa-kx3yt3 жыл бұрын
It helps to turn if u lift u the axle
@clubvillain3 жыл бұрын
nice video
@Shubham-w6b3 жыл бұрын
6×4 is best
@snakeinfested55253 жыл бұрын
спасибо! более чем наглядный тест
@ruthlessadmin3 жыл бұрын
Good video but I still don't know if I like the tradeoff between my 8x6's monster traction vs the maneuverability of a 6x4 =/ The 8x6 has made me have to give up on a few parking jobs, because I just am not skilled enough to really weasel it into extremely tight situations (at least in so far as the stock game has to offer).
@mdiscoshongwe62793 жыл бұрын
I feel sad because this game is not available here in South Africa
@mclarentech63593 жыл бұрын
Bro download steam and buy from there both ats and ets2 and play truckersmp (multiplayer of both ats and ets2)
@martinsv91833 жыл бұрын
Haha.. who made the physics for this game? :) Driving up a 45 deg dirt incline incline with 2WD towing a trailer... sure :p In real life on dry tarmac and a 4WD car you will just barely make it up a 45 deg incline...
@tylergladys66263 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like oilfield haul roads in West Virginia
@georgecostanza93873 жыл бұрын
Test transmissions now
@SuperMegaGamingTR3 жыл бұрын
perfect!
@MathieuDublanc13 жыл бұрын
Should use VOLVO VML because it have all configurations
@TGMStefa3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have 8x6,only 8x4 midlift
@andrefernando7903 жыл бұрын
bro same test with 18 gearbox
@amirnik97213 жыл бұрын
Perfect 🤩
@kennedybushcraftandmakery2 жыл бұрын
The acceleration test was inaccurate as in the test with the 6x4 and the 8x6 you steered and I understand that you need to stay on path but that would be detrimental to the result
@02091992able3 жыл бұрын
Where the differentials locked on the 6x4 chassis?
@AlxVeber-aKaNoviFrance3 жыл бұрын
cool polygon
@AngelusFromHell2 жыл бұрын
I apologize for my ignorance, but 6x4 means 6 wheels 4 drive wheels (rear e middle wheels)?
@TGMStefa2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@andreascahyadi81343 жыл бұрын
Try again, but with 12 speed. Must be easier
@vito_n3 жыл бұрын
this game is not a simulator. This is just a first person arcade:)
@Unrealbr3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Canwe get this for ETS2 also?
@nerfcommando1492 жыл бұрын
how do you get this map or maps? the straightaway and hills look fun to play with.
@TGMStefa2 жыл бұрын
This is a custom map i made for testing
@matthea.t.s.gamer12173 жыл бұрын
were is the hill
@LegendMuscle3 жыл бұрын
In real life if youd have 3 drive axles youd have more power taking the HEAVY loads. Youll see the 2 power or 1 drive with 1 muel doing moderate weight loads any distance then you see the 1 drive axle alone doing local light weight. Everything has an application. I believe this test is unfair because (i believe i noticed weight difference) which would be accurate and unrealistic circumstances... Great video idea but that small truck needs the 300hp engine the med sizr needs like 450.. Then the 600 on the big boy .