Red Komodo vs. Blackmagic 6K Full Frame PYXIS: The Real Difference on a Movie Set | BRAW R3D

[@sitebstudios]

A lot of people have been sleeping on the 6k FF. I still prefer it to the Pyxis because of the screen. But the fact that BM can come so close to a RED camera is astonishing. Kudos to them. Thanks for the video!

[@ReachFilms]

I completely agree, I slept on it until the sale, and after using it the past few months. If I had picked it up earlier, I may not have purchased another Komodo again after selling my Stormtrooper version a year ago.

[@sitebstudios]

@@ReachFilms wow! That’s crazy. But now you have both! Keep rocking!

[@whengrapespop5728]

Because of your use case* is probably what you mean. There’s nothing wrong with the side monitor. The side monitor makes perfect sense for cinema productions, but not for videography.

[@sderftgzert5977]

Pyxis and bmcc FF its same ?

[@ReachFilms]

@@sderftgzert5977 Same Exact sensor

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Man your videos are SO HELPFUL !! Thanks Man

[@ReachFilms]

you got it!! THANK YOU for watching!!

[@BeierFilms]

For the last five years, I've been surprised to find that I actually prefer the colors out of the Blackmagic cameras to the more expensive Reds. I've heard many say that BMD is closer to the "Arri Look," and while I'm definitely not one of those "Alexa or bust" people, I do appreciate the more natural look Arri has managed straight out of camera. Of course, both of these cameras look lovely and both have much more pleasing colors than I'm used to seeing from Sony.

[@ReachFilms]

Yup the blackmagic colors are great!

[@axanarfilm]

These shots are really something special

[@DancersThatShoot]

I'm a simple man.....I see Star Trek, ESPECIALLY Axanar footage, I'm slapping the mess out of the like button lmfao. Thanks for this test Geoff, I was actually starting to debate this very situation in my head once the komodo got its price slashed. Having already shot a documentary on the Ursa 4.6k, I'm already used to the blackmagic OS and colors, and really like the new features and upgrades in the pyxis, so thats probably going to be the route I go in the very near future. Thanks for the comparison test!🖖

[@ReachFilms]

Yessir! Had a small final pick up shot for Axanar so shot this test while I was there.

[@creatureproject]

Great video, Geoff. I just wanted to say, as you mentioned your Smallrig cage for the CC6K FF isn't compatible with the battery extension pack... After I got my 6K FF, I ended up getting the Tilta cage as it was the only one available at the time, and it comes with an adapter piece to utilize the battery pack, just in case you care. I will say that the Tilta'a cage baseplate system is incredibly limiting, but it is a solid beast.

[@ReachFilms]

Great to know!! Thank you!!

[@dollhausenx]

I use the Anton Bauer Titon base on the BMCC6k which is super easy to use, out of the way of the monitor, etc.

[@joshuairwin2016]

What's that old saying ? You date your cameras but you marry your lenses. I LOVE me some Sigma. Great tests Geoff! Thank you!

[@ReachFilms]

Exactly!!! Sigma for the win you got it man!!

[@MartianCitizen]

Great video. Lot's of information when comparing Red vs. BM. Sorry, that sounded kind of funny. Red vs. Black magic 6k. I believe that the Red looked a little sharper with better dynamic range than the Black Magic. Almost to close to call, but noticeable. You can't go wrong with Red. As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying.... From the little Red planet. ( Parden the Red pun. 🤣 ) 👽👽👽👽👽

[@parkviewphotography7529]

Incredible video. But does anyone know the name of the song playing during the comparison demo?

[@diazfilms]

Great presentation! The star trek footage looks so good!! Those images are practically identical. Both are great tools. I love using the BMFF for my narrative needs. Based on some side by side pyxis/ BMff footage I've seen on other channels the image off of the bmff seems to be wider and taller than the pyxis using the same focal length. I thought it was a weird since they both have the sensor. That would be an interesting thing to look into.

[@ReachFilms]

Thank you!

[@billyoung9538]

there were elements of each camera I prefered. I liked the rich red light in the background of the Kamodo on the slider shot, but the skintones of the Blackmagic in all the shots. Anyone claiming more dynamic range on this footage doesn't know what dynamic range is, because nothing in this was high dynamic range enough to test that aspect of the cameras just like none of the moments in this were fast enough to have the global shutter be much of an advantage either. I think either camera can easily handle most common shooting scenarios like what was seen in this video, and as for the color differences I think those could also be matched better with a little more post work. If I were after my first cinema camera I think that one of the Blackmagics makes a lot of sense because they also come with a full version of DaVinci Resolve and cost roughly 1/2-2/3 the price of a Kamodo. One other potential advantage of the Pyxis over the Cinema camera 6k is optics. Both the Pyxis and Kamodo look like cinema cameras to clients, and those kind of optics give clients a placebo of confidence.

[@ChrisFlores22]

Great video with insightful observations! I just picked up 2 Komodos and so far so good. I wanted a proper b cam to the Komodo and I considered Nikon or the 6kFF. The 6kFF locking me into braw was a factor of why I didn’t pick it.

[@ReachFilms]

@@ChrisFlores22 thanks! Yeah I get it as I said in the end of the video, my verdict is really different strokes for different folks. There isn’t one answer that makes one camera the best answer for everyone

[@M2008tw]

interesting comparison. I shoot on boat Sony and Canon myself and also owned a Blackmagic 4K with the booster was a great camera. Unbelievable, in your comparison, the skin color is far better on the Blackmagic than your Komodo. I am surprised because I see someone using RED as "A" camera and a Canon as "B". Canon has beautiful colors, better in my eyes than Sony. But almost everything can be processed in grade, so it looks nearly the same. What a time to be alive.

[@ReachFilms]

@@M2008tw yeah exactly we are in a crazy time, could the red footage have been corrected more? Yeah for sure, but same for the blackmagic. I wanted the images to be as fair as possible

[@seanmartinflix]

Love the set . Star Trek want to set up. Personally I love black magic I really do but I would choose the red.

[@ReachFilms]

It is a great set!!!

[@andersistbesser]

@@ReachFilmsis this a real set or ai? If its real where is it and who made it?

[@ReachFilms]

@@andersistbesser how would it be AI? Then all the camera tests would not be real? The set was used for a short indie film I worked on called Axanar.

[@andersistbesser]

@@ReachFilms it can be done a lot with ai. Someone could create exact this look with only the chair with the person in it being real. Crazy times.

[@ReachFilms]

@@andersistbesser at that point, it would not be a test comparing two cameras. I think you’re trying to mess with me and it’s not cool.

[@gummoman]

I always wonder where the red camera has these 16+ stops. In all the tests I have done I never see them.

[@nigerian-nightmare]

Not even close to 16 stops.

[@ReachFilms]

It’s claimed stops not necessarily real world results. Same on the Sony, they claim 15 stops but it’s really less

[@directorparisholmes2024]

So why do you have Pyxis in title?

[@ReachFilms]

Did you watch the video?

[@directorparisholmes2024]

@@ReachFilms yes

[@leebrandt8597]

I'm curios why you state the "claimed" dynamic range numbers when we know that Red Digital and other manufacturers greatly exagerate this number?

[@ReachFilms]

Your point is exactly why I mentioned that they are the claimed numbers

[@leebrandt8597]

@@ReachFilms Ah, I see

[@richardweddle3408]

Thanks for the discourse. You need to get over this dependency on Sigma glass. Try Zeiss. Zeiss lenses wipe the floor with Sigma. Try a Zeiss Milvus first, or the ultra-perfect Zeiss Otus. There's also the new Zeiss Batis and the new Zeiss Nano-primes.

[@ReachFilms]

Zeiss is great I’ve used them plenty of times, it comes down to will it make me more money? The answer unfortunately has been no but when I have the opportunities I use them

[@eddietor_cine]

What would be next is to demonstrate how you can easily shift the colors in post to match exactly. The Pyxis with the new monitor from Blackmagic will easily give you the viewing and control you need. The wireless connection via Blackmagic app will also work well as demonstrated by others. Yes if you have the RED, no need to get rid of it, but if you wanted it as an A and B camera together rather than a "versus" you now know you can do it. If you're not using Resolve, WHY? just kidding. If you're not using Resolve then clearly R3D is the way to go. Blackmagic will catch up in no time. Either way it's good to know you can use either one.

[@ReachFilms]

I actually use the Bluetooth Plus app with my Blackmagic in the studio to control the camera and pull focus on my 24-35 remotely, it's a really solid app!! But yes at some point will do a video on R3D vs BRAW in Davinci Thanks!!

[@TJIzzy]

Komodo X is a lot better than OG Komodo. Colors are like V Raptor as well.

[@ReachFilms]

I’ve shot on Komodo X, and with Komodo at that. Better? Yeah it’s better, a lot better? Nah not really but what makes it “better” besides the extra half stop of dynamic range is there is just so much better IO that it makes the camera faster and easier to use on set.

[@anthonyrock5039]

@@ReachFilmsa lot of people who do not use or own the OG or x Komodo talk about massive image quality difference but it is realllly unlikely that anyone would be able to tell the difference between them if the scenes shot were exposed and lit properly and a Cooke/master prime/ any cine lens is used in production. Not once have I seen or heard anyone complain about shots and scenes I have seen OG Komodo’s capturing in Hollywood. Maybe KZbinrs content creators (who are the only people I have ever heard talk about this) know better than larger production. The x was put out to address users who are used to photography bodies and on board audio, v mount . It is nice for those who don’t have superior external audio and who need slow motion. Horses for courses I suppose.

[@IMDABROWN]

My old eyes don’t see a difference,

[@ReachFilms]

They are super close!!! to some close enough not to justify spending more!

[@andynonimuss6298]

The Blackmagic has better skin tones.

[@zechenwei1139]

I felt the same way lol.

[@ReachFilms]

Yes out of the gate it’s definitely less magenta

[@AllThingsKen]

I thought the Komodo was full frame?

[@ReachFilms]

I wish! It’s somewhat close but is a 1.33x crop of full frame.

[@tessifromi5268]

They are not the same in color, DR and in rendering skin tones. You can also see the difference with youtube compression in full effect. The BM is really good for the price but it is not in the same league as r3d raw. The other raws that are really good are from the sony venice and Arri. Again, this is not blackmagic hate, BRAW is the best for it's price but fails in comparison to the other higher end Raws.

[@ReachFilms]

Yeah it definitely comes down to my final thoughts, different strokes for different folks. One camera doesn’t have the answer for every user than the other one does. Some people will do better with a Komodo and some will do better with the blackmagic. It really depends on your personal situation

[@pasegers]

only for the risk of Red service in the future, now that it has being taken over, and it looks like Nikon don't have so much future plans for it. i went for the Pyxis, full frame, cf express type b , amazing easy and light braw .... but we all have or opinions hé 😉

[@ReachFilms]

I do see Blackmagic becoming the "New" Cinema Camera for most, I really love using the Full Frame 6k, at some point I may get a PYXIS, but since I already own the Komodo it probably won't be for a year or so since the other Blackmagic is the exact same sensor with same frame rates and image quality.

[@pasegers]

@@ReachFilms yes, but the Pocket form factor .... really not possible to me 😂, but watching ton's of video's here on KZbin, i really wanted a Blackmagic !! i use a Z Cam F6 with a video assist 12g and i love that already 😍 the Red colors, i don't like so much, there is something with the contrast in the blacks i am not fan of 😊 but it looks cinematic 😊😊😊

[@willvazquez3218]

Great video. Man, I wanted to love the Komodo. But I hate the image. I’ve owned two different Komodo and have sold them because they frustrated me so much. The image is weird sometimes and gives a strobe-like kind of motion cadence because of the global shutter. And it has a weird effect that it does to the skin tone where it actually makes it look worse. Komodo accentuates skin blemishes. The only time the Komodo is good is if you cut it as an action cam With Alexa or the raptor. Other than that man, it’s just an ugly image in my opinion. I’d rather have the FX3 or any other camera over the Komodo.

[@ReachFilms]

Hey will thanks for stopping by! I get you, Ive learned how to deal with Komodo the way I need to and do like the image but in certain situations I totally get what you are saying. At some point I may end up switching to whatever new Sony Full frame that comes out next year to replace it. But for now the Komodo stays! haha.. Side not I use my FX30 much more than Komodo due to ease of use... Which is why the next video is a comparison of the Komodo VS the FX30, using 10 bit from FX30 and RAW from FX30

[@t0nns]

KKKKKKKK wtf

[@anthonyrock5039]

What frame rate and shutter angle and lenses/ image quality settings and grading are you using to get bad images? That's a new one.

[@RafalGendarz]

😂