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Thailand's $35.6BN Strait of Malacca Rival

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@conorlarkin1035
@conorlarkin1035 9 ай бұрын
Do the math....one container ship may have 10,000 TEU. (largest ships can have 25,000). One train can carry approx 250 TEU. So 40 trains required for ONE ship????. This is not going to happen.
@tommypaget2294
@tommypaget2294 8 ай бұрын
You’re right, sir!!!
@PahatRout
@PahatRout 8 ай бұрын
It is noted that in US, they have transported over 1,000 TEUs per train with multi-locomotives combination. Notwithstanding that, can you imagine space required at either port at both ends. Stacking laden boxes on the wharves awaiting transfer would require heavily piled wharf surfaces; with say 2 mega-containerships arriving at the same time; chaos will prevail even in sorting out those boxes which will have to be loaded as previously planned to ensure pre-planned discharging of the boxes as per port call. Really, I think this project is good only for debate by students of logistics!
@JeroenvanGutsem-u7e
@JeroenvanGutsem-u7e 8 ай бұрын
china wants an unblocked access for their subs to outflank the us navy in case of a planned blockage of the Malacca Strait.
@sunriseboy4837
@sunriseboy4837 8 ай бұрын
Yeah....I was looking at the handling of the containers. Load 'em up at origin port...unload at new road/rail/pipeline...load up at next sea port....unload at destination port....there is something very 'peculiar' about all of this. It seems that wages, insurance, power, workers transport, fuel consumption etc. is not being factored in, at least IMO. How can the double-handling of the goods, be an economic advantage? I think it's going to end in tears. Great idea!...but connecting the idea to a fulfilled project, in this instance, seems that the movers and shakers are reaching beyond their grasp. Doing these maga deals, is not the same thing as getting a financially effective solution to the idea. Just sayin'.
@yacoubalkhder2424
@yacoubalkhder2424 8 ай бұрын
Isn’t it too much for one freight train to carry 250 TEU, I read in many places that standard freight train can carry only 70-100 TEU?
@tanchye1720
@tanchye1720 8 ай бұрын
1. Cost of 2 ports to be built and supporting infrastructures, highway, rail, etc. 2. Frequent flooding in this area. 3. An ideal structure for the extremist to sabotage. 4. Ports are run now run by AI to compete, not manually. China advance port only needs 200+ personnel to run the whole operation. Don’t need 1000s or 10,000+ workers to do the job. 5. Efficiency is a main criterial. You need to unload in 1st port & reload the containers in the 2nd port. 6. Connectivity to the world becomes an issue. 7. It might become another ‘white elephant’. 8. Etc.
@melheinrich5438
@melheinrich5438 7 ай бұрын
But a ship can carry a hell a lot more than by train. Railroad is ideal for countries that aren't near shipping capabilities.
@yuv06
@yuv06 7 ай бұрын
It can handle ULCC which usually have to go around Indonesia, it will also have oil refineries, ship repairs, manufacturing etc...
@rhino6634
@rhino6634 7 ай бұрын
This is the dumbest idea ever. The ship would have to dock then unload its cargo and then transfer to train. Then the train would have to travel 50 miles. Then reload on a ship. Stupidest idea ever
@malahammer
@malahammer 7 ай бұрын
Post a link to your business plan that shows the Thailand business plan being dumb. Thank you. But China does not agree.
@jonahigbokwe394
@jonahigbokwe394 6 ай бұрын
I think it makes huge economic sense. It saves time and saves costs.
@MASMIWA
@MASMIWA 6 ай бұрын
Mexico has the same idea to bypass the Panama canal.
@amerasia5189
@amerasia5189 6 ай бұрын
100% agree. This is for the communist military crossing rather than real economic development. Time will tell!
@matzmn
@matzmn 5 ай бұрын
The Mexican project makes more sense because of the exorbitant cost of using Panama Canal and the long distance around South America. This one doesn't because you can pass straight of Melaka for free.
@adiman6452
@adiman6452 9 ай бұрын
The ports In Malaysia (Port Klang, Westport and Tanjung Pelepas) and Singapore are all very efficient ports.
@Hs5687
@Hs5687 7 ай бұрын
Nothing happens without Singapore’s Approval 😊
@yuv06
@yuv06 7 ай бұрын
@@Hs5687 Sing is not powerful it's a Chi Wah Wah like it's military the powerful ones are the US and EU regimes
@melheinrich5438
@melheinrich5438 7 ай бұрын
It's time savings that leads savings for what ever you purchased. That's like 👍 using horse and buggy against driving a car 🚗, so which is faster 🤔 and cheaper?
@alfredt6180
@alfredt6180 7 ай бұрын
@@Hs5687 SG ports are dead... or rather, will be finished in 20 years time.
@Hs5687
@Hs5687 7 ай бұрын
@@alfredt6180 After watching in Disbelief Lee Family Saga … anything is possible
@stuartbrown1569
@stuartbrown1569 8 ай бұрын
The China Laos railway, now connects with Thailand and Malaysia, so freight could easily go from China, to an Andaman sea port. From Laos, the freight lines could use upgrading, but it's operationally possible now. Load once, on rail, transport at rail speed, load to ship, for the Suez canal. Or Arabian rail, to Turkish and European rail.
@ca5da3pl
@ca5da3pl 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the China Laos railway be the obvious solution if the south terminus is at the Port of Ranong?
@Rapture77
@Rapture77 7 ай бұрын
Andaman is under Indian territory.
@zurielsss
@zurielsss 7 ай бұрын
A train can carry 250 TEU A container chip can carry 10000 TEU. Trains won’t replace ships by cost or volume
@McSlobo
@McSlobo 7 ай бұрын
Trains can't compete with ships. The biggest ship can carry 24000 TEU which means 12000 full-sized (40ft) containers. You need a 150km long train to move those containers. Now, on average a container ship is about 4500 TEU. 210 vessels pass through Malacca strait a day. So, about 950000TEU or 475000 40ft containers, i.e. a train that's about 6000km long. China-Laos railway is 422km long so you have to move a 6000km long train through that 422km every day. It's not impossible both ends need machinery that load and unload the stuff at same speed.
@madsam0320
@madsam0320 7 ай бұрын
@@Rapture77 you are confusing the Andaman Islands with Andaman Sea, which is mostly international water.
@thomastessier4529
@thomastessier4529 9 ай бұрын
So, instead of being able to sail through a water system, you now have to unload each ship, transport the freight by either rail or road the the other side of Thailand and then have to reload all of the freight again. Seems like a lot of redundancy, thereby adding to the overall expense of having the handle ALL of the freight numerous times. Seems like a Suez-type canal would be much better. But, what do I know?
@stuartbrown1569
@stuartbrown1569 8 ай бұрын
I think you're right, given that rail, can go from China, to the Andaman Sea, via Laos, Thailand, Malaysia. The route is more direct and at rail speed, not ship speed, offloading twice, would therefore seem redundant. Even expensive and time consuming, ship to rail, rail to ship, instead of just rail to ship.
@Birdylockso
@Birdylockso 8 ай бұрын
I think the solution is not either-or, but both. Having multiple systems to transfer goods is the goal. Each system will eventually evolve into a further system that will enhance the efficiency of the overall strategy.
@stuartbrown1569
@stuartbrown1569 8 ай бұрын
@@Birdylockso Well, the oil pipeline, makes sense, the offloading and onloading would be fast and logistically simple. A road, linking both coasts, would probably, not be expensive. But rail, coast to coast, could be costly, still there are other reasons for the railway line, so it may make sense, due to the combination, of reasons. Such as shipping to and from Malaysia, Thailand and other South East Asian nations. In Indochina, in concert, with the Japanese roadways and Chinese railways.
@pantelisvidakis9005
@pantelisvidakis9005 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the suggested route shortens the journey about 900 km/485 naut.miles. It takes out 1-2.5 days in terms of shipping time depending the speed of the vessel. It is a great ammount of time but not a huge one as the video suggests. I could see it making sense since we are talking about 180 ships crossing the strait (1 per 8 mins) but only in the sense of a canal which is easy to navigate. But still the cost per ship to pass would still could not be too big. Lets say for an average ship speed is 16knots, to cover an extra 900 kms it would take it 30 hours to pass through the strait of malaka. Depending the vessel and size to go through a suggesteed canal the cost would be something 60k-350k usd (Fuel,chartering cost and Opex). The canal (ok this is guestimate) could not charge more than 50k- 300k usd. And the socioeconomic cost to build something like this would be massive. To be frank even the canal doesnt make sense. That thing they are saying they are going to make doesnt make sense at all. In my eyes it seems like a way of making thailand indebted to China for a long time as well as being a convenient safety net for China. In my opinion the only thing i could see making sense is a pipeline through the suggested route for Crude oil. Only because it would be easy to load and unload. Seems like another Tactic of China to enslave another country through economic means.
@ezwansafri8006
@ezwansafri8006 8 ай бұрын
@@pantelisvidakis9005 spoken like a true American.
@zaki-pq1ps
@zaki-pq1ps 9 ай бұрын
since when malaysian become pirates?
@chrobb99
@chrobb99 8 ай бұрын
IKR especially the west coast area/people..
@K3mrM
@K3mrM 6 ай бұрын
Beca pon dia kabo tuk tuk. Mat saleh kan bodo history
@silvarajoomuniandy4316
@silvarajoomuniandy4316 4 ай бұрын
​@@K3mrM But you apply mat saleh technology. Haha
@hungo7720
@hungo7720 7 ай бұрын
Singapore has been an incessant beneficiary of the strait of Malacca. Given the robust demands in the last few decades and tangile speculation, a canal of this unprecedented scale would be a boon for the Thai economy and a golden opportunity to bridge the gap between bangkok and the poor south.
@bobjuniel8683
@bobjuniel8683 9 ай бұрын
KZbin blocked my criticism and warning about this project intended to protect Thailand. Will KZbin pick up the $35.6 Billion debt when the project fails financially? KZbin prefers polite insincerity to honest opinion.
@simroysten7963
@simroysten7963 8 ай бұрын
@@John-.-Smith111 Don't worry, Elon Musk buying YT soon. No Joke.
@balloonbuster
@balloonbuster 8 ай бұрын
@@John-.-Smith111 I just came out from YT shadow ban. It happen to me very regularly. Its frustrating need to wait for 24 hours sometime more before can post comment again. Every time it happen I switch over to Tik Tok....LOL.
@christopherpekel6096
@christopherpekel6096 8 ай бұрын
Happens to me as well
@neohabilis7412
@neohabilis7412 9 ай бұрын
How much time will be saved, after unloading thousands of containers off ship, onto train, off train, onto ship? I'm thinking it will be at least 25 minutes quicker than sailing around.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 9 ай бұрын
It’s either a canal, or nothing.
@QiuQiuChannel-ni3xj
@QiuQiuChannel-ni3xj 7 ай бұрын
And must not like panama canals since its too long waiting and waste too much fresh water and drought risk
@matzmn
@matzmn 8 ай бұрын
Just build a canal. Of course it costs a lot more initially but will be profitable in the long run. Don't waste time on the stupid land bridge. Malaysian here.
@yvvonelee5026
@yvvonelee5026 8 ай бұрын
Some Malaysian are very pissed off with Singapore for being too rich. Until today they cannot fathom why a very tiny dot with no natural resources are able to jump over their heads. I don't blame them. Thailand so far away also felt the same.
@PCLinke
@PCLinke 8 ай бұрын
@@yvvonelee5026 Why would be pissed off? A rich country mean there is more consumption in that country and other countries can sell them more stuff.
@lenziany
@lenziany 8 ай бұрын
​@@yvvonelee5026what?? Where u get this? News?? Lol.. As an Indonesian, having many Malaysian friends & relatives, i'm very sure never met Malaysian hate crazy rich Singaporeans, lol.. They're very GREAT people❣️
@mmddyyyy-his
@mmddyyyy-his 7 ай бұрын
​@@yvvonelee5026 Yeah that dot would be obliterated in a very short time in the time of WWIII or whatever global conflict happens. I am not even talking about a full blown nuclear war, just like the Cold war where every nation would hesitate to export their product, imagine what that little dot will be consuming to survive? everything will be scarce, prices will skyrocket, people will go rampant killing each other for just eating, they will flock into boats trying to find food on the other island. Enjoy your little dot!
@dharmaosman184
@dharmaosman184 7 ай бұрын
Yeah Evyone, why should Malaysians be pissed off? Those having rich uncles never get pissed with them. Only outsiders that presume wrongly. You are not pissed off by Singapore, just by your own government perhaps. Wherever tiny frame of mind that you are from.
@firdauszainudin7118
@firdauszainudin7118 6 ай бұрын
Thailand: I want to build a canal, but I don't want to lose land Neighboring country: It's not even your land to begin with, just be nice and give independence to the Malay provinces of the South
@thompjackson
@thompjackson 9 ай бұрын
I like the narration. Very inoffensive to my ears.
@barely_surviving47
@barely_surviving47 9 ай бұрын
Strait of malacca have well established oil refinery plants, I'm not sure how Thailand's gonna rival that though.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 9 ай бұрын
They don't need to. They just need to get domestic trade between Europe and Thailand to go through Ranong and straight to Bangkok and that will save time and logistics.
@lancewood1410
@lancewood1410 9 ай бұрын
What, you think whings can't be built again? So naive.
@ALWH1314
@ALWH1314 7 ай бұрын
The biggest oil importer is China and Malacca is a chock hold, so China is building an oil pipeline from Pakistan to avoid Malacca and this Thailand channel is another mitigation route for Chinese freights. Refinery is not relevant.
@guillaumefournier7269
@guillaumefournier7269 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, congrats 🎉
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 9 ай бұрын
Thx bro ❤️
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 9 ай бұрын
Another banger! Future idea for a video? All the proposed bridge/tunnel crossings that could link Indonesia's main islands as well as to Singapore and Malaysia. All of the straits from Balt to Singapore have had proposals in the recent past it would seem. And with such a large, dynamic and growing nation it makes sense to link them further with high speed railways, freeways and pipeline connections.... I believe Java and Sumatra combined alone is over 210 million people which puts it in the Top 10 of nations without the rest of the nation!
@woonfaseng8737
@woonfaseng8737 7 ай бұрын
china's propaganda platform selling delusional ideals and dreams
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 9 ай бұрын
Diverting through the Lombok Strait; for example, would extend voyages by about 4,600 kilometers and 170 hours. Doable but not as economical. PS - interesting that Mexico is currently building the Isthmus of Tehuantepec dry corridor as an alternative to Panama Canal.
@thomaswwwiegand
@thomaswwwiegand 6 ай бұрын
I live in Thailand, and well hear about that project. It took me just some hour to gain some very important part, that MUST work well: * very fast and mu.ti rail link between both ports * a lot of trains to ensure, the cargo is immediate transported further ! * that is then a huge amount of de- and loading place and equipment, to make sure NOT loosing any time -> then this could be profitable PLUS : extra * reshuffle of cargo from one to other side to gain more efficiency for some companies * extra fast rail link to Bangkok and further to China maybe to save other sea ways also (Thai own connection fE) IT could work with profit, but only if it is done WELL = big, fast and combining.
@43sunray
@43sunray 9 ай бұрын
Melaka got no tuk tuks. 😂😂😂😂 Its called trishaws. The pirates are indonesians.
@soakupthesunman
@soakupthesunman 9 ай бұрын
Muslims?
@tommypaget2294
@tommypaget2294 8 ай бұрын
อย่าไปสร้างมันนะ!!…..ภาษีคนไทยชิบหายหมด!!!……แต่ควรขุดคลองไทย!!!
@ndorobei4391
@ndorobei4391 8 ай бұрын
Buddhist are Communist. Barbarian Pol pot followersnya.
@orgkampong
@orgkampong 8 ай бұрын
Yes pirates for yrs were Indonesian & Sulu from the Philippines (these Sulu specialise in kidnapping for ransom).
@Hasnanembong
@Hasnanembong 8 ай бұрын
never heard of piratism in this strait nowadays. Must have been a hearsay.
@raisakmal3894
@raisakmal3894 8 ай бұрын
talking about train for cargo, Malaysia ECRL train is already under construction. expected to be completed in 2026/2027 linking Port Kelang & Port Kuantan
@donhuang9855
@donhuang9855 8 ай бұрын
Useful as a transport conduit for light cargoes.
@luqmanhaqimsuhaimi153
@luqmanhaqimsuhaimi153 8 ай бұрын
bagus kan idea najib
@pakdinokilau62din16
@pakdinokilau62din16 7 ай бұрын
Next another port from Penang to Kota Bahru Kelantan by Malaysia own joint venture china company second ECRL2 medium speed rail 240 km/h.
@_Breakdown
@_Breakdown 9 ай бұрын
6:46 - - FR? Turkey? VT? SA? Cambodia? Sing? CH?
@donhuang9855
@donhuang9855 8 ай бұрын
For strategic consideration, constructing the river conduits navigable for containerships from the Indian Ocean via Myanmar through to China make more senses than a KRA canal or a KRA Land Bridge that is still within effective control of the US navy. A worse-case scenario is that the Myanmar river expansion project can’t completely reach through China, but if it can reach some three-quarters of the way from Myanmar to China, a “land bridge” via railway lines can be constructed to transport the cargoes to complete rest of the journeys into China; thus making it a lot secure than a Land Bridge through Thailand. Of course, the costs of such river expansion project through Myanmar would be prohibitive, but in terms of national security and long term costs analysis, the hidden benefits of the Myanmar river project far outweighs the KRA Canal/ KRA Land bridge project.
@cabin_view
@cabin_view 7 ай бұрын
The graphic on 4:14 actually shows istanbul and not thailand
@88chinchin88
@88chinchin88 9 ай бұрын
I don't think this project alone is worth investing money. But (along with transportation) if the Thai government can build an industrial complex that can upload raw materials/goods on one side and assemble/produce finished goods and ship them from the other side (plus the high-speed train network that they are building from China directly to this landbridge). Then I think it might be a good idea. PS: The Thai government will never build the Kra Canal, since they don't want their country to become too important strategically, which will put the country into a new great game between China and the US.
@arkrishnan
@arkrishnan 8 ай бұрын
You are right. Thailand is relatively unimportant in international scene. Once the canal comes they have to provide security. Thais are no match for the Egyptians when it comes to conflicts.
@ม้าดีดกระโหลก
@ม้าดีดกระโหลก 8 ай бұрын
You are very smart, you see through every dimension. Both economic and political
@monkeycatel2114
@monkeycatel2114 9 ай бұрын
What is this channel name change?
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 9 ай бұрын
I haven't changed my channel name, what are you talking about?
@CallMeByMyMatingName
@CallMeByMyMatingName 9 ай бұрын
​@@Looking4EnMust be confused by the same robot voice narrating a bunch of other similar channels.
@johnlacey3857
@johnlacey3857 8 ай бұрын
@@CallMeByMyMatingNameYes, the AI robot voice is very annoying.
@BobBinghamNZ
@BobBinghamNZ 8 ай бұрын
The belt and Road rail link with China would open up new ports in the Indian ocean and speed up the container time between China and Europe.
@aiem
@aiem 7 ай бұрын
1:20 we call it beca (béca) not tuk tuk..
@RealityCheck6969
@RealityCheck6969 9 ай бұрын
But why? It's cheaper to just go around the Strait of Malacca then to take off the cargo from a ship, transport it 70 km-ers and then replace it on the ship... That makes no sense. It costs to much money, no?
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 9 ай бұрын
But actually, there is a capacity limit to the Straits of Melaka. Based on current shipping tech it's 90 million teu. The kra rail is good for creating more capacity and better shipment for the Thais domestically.
@corellianjedi2483
@corellianjedi2483 9 ай бұрын
Well, no Kra Canal fine. Land Bridge will fit China contraband shipping good enough, food can be self sufficient but key is contraband shipping and Thailand can make lump sum from it bro. Legal stuff will still go through Singapore, that's it.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 9 ай бұрын
@@corellianjedi2483 they have Pakistan to do contraband shit. To begin with just see who is investing in the rail, not China.
@corellianjedi2483
@corellianjedi2483 9 ай бұрын
@@MrBoliao98 but China played Pakistan out and Kra bridge might be Plan B or C bro.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 9 ай бұрын
@@corellianjedi2483 firstly do you see Chinese companies investing? Secondly who does Thailand ally with, it's obvious it's the US. Thirdly, China has a plan B through the excessive ECRL because Malaysia has no friends.
@Rakhtor
@Rakhtor 7 ай бұрын
What about the elevation? Are they going around the mountains or drilling a tunnel through them? Cargo trains do not like elevation. Neither does a canal. Surat Thani seems like a much better place for the canal or land bridge to me.
@Rakhtor
@Rakhtor 7 ай бұрын
The Malay train line seems just as bad. The strait is very congested. Let's build an overland connection that ends up in the same congested area. Extra congestion will be made from unloading and loading in the probably already very congested ports. Will it really help matters? Weren't they afraid of pirates and blockades in that area?
@crisostomoreynaldo1280
@crisostomoreynaldo1280 6 ай бұрын
The Thai Canal is more feasible and more advantageous than land bridge which require more handling of cargos.
@sokapokvic2514
@sokapokvic2514 6 ай бұрын
I think what if they just built like little irrigation canals and there's a towing system to allow the container to float between the two sides?
@an_other_world
@an_other_world 6 ай бұрын
That train strip would definitely save a lot of money for the maritime trade companies and provide them with more options
@LeifES
@LeifES 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video, but the piano clunking is driving me nuts.
@crisostomoreynaldo1280
@crisostomoreynaldo1280 6 ай бұрын
Thai pls include the Phil in this project because it will benefit the country.
@chincheong7341
@chincheong7341 8 ай бұрын
Why is the Kra Canal not viable or feasible?
@thadiusthudpucker
@thadiusthudpucker 3 ай бұрын
Politics. Politicians fear not being reelected
@pomicultorul
@pomicultorul 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@kumwengmak9900
@kumwengmak9900 9 ай бұрын
Thailand should try to do it alone to prove to the rest of the world they are serious and have the leadership, finance, competence and will power and not just talk only again.
@mabo9636
@mabo9636 9 ай бұрын
Thailand doesnt have this kind of money
@Tuy24
@Tuy24 8 ай бұрын
@@mabo9636 You think?
@orgkampong
@orgkampong 8 ай бұрын
Hello, have u ever seen the Thai Railway scene ? It's the 60's coming alive !
@xorroz4555
@xorroz4555 7 ай бұрын
Thai will be in great debts like the Africans
@seanlee9377
@seanlee9377 8 ай бұрын
Thai project is essential for China trade when war breaks out since Singapore has a major US military base to encircle China.
@donhuang9855
@donhuang9855 8 ай бұрын
The US Navy can still cause considerable mischieves to China using the KRA Canal or the KRA land Bridge because containerships still have to cross the Indian Ocean which is also guarded by the US and Indian Navies; unless China have some Naval bases along the Indian Ocean shipping routes, say in Myanmar, Pakistan and soon Islands in the middle of Indian Ocean.
@NewmaticKe
@NewmaticKe 8 ай бұрын
What US military base in Singapore? Can you point it out with your finger
@woonfaseng8737
@woonfaseng8737 7 ай бұрын
china's propaganda platform selling delusional ideals and dreams
@djibicisse
@djibicisse 7 ай бұрын
@@NewmaticKeChangi
@damienlee927
@damienlee927 7 ай бұрын
@@djibicisse Just because their ships docked there before doesn't make it a military base...... You have no idea what a military base is, do you?
@ahmadzaimhilmi
@ahmadzaimhilmi 8 ай бұрын
The Thai land link is indeed a threat to existing ports, particularly the ones in Singapore and Malaysia. Southeast Asian countries need to enhance connectivities between all the Malay archipelagos so they won't be too dependent on transcontinental shipments.
@McSlobo
@McSlobo 7 ай бұрын
The highlighted area is nowhere near 900km. Maybe from Phuket to Singapore it starts to get close.
@kirohiro7333
@kirohiro7333 8 ай бұрын
When I saw the ships on malacca straights it was like matchboxes on a big river
@bonanap7183
@bonanap7183 Ай бұрын
loaoding at a Thai port through China - Laos - Thailand rail for goods from southwestern China. this is both economically and strategically viable. the goal is also putting a chokehold on Singapore ending it's monopoly. this is precisely the reason that Malaysia built it's own Land Bridge.
@Curtisgoesplaces
@Curtisgoesplaces 8 ай бұрын
Great channel. You should start posting at least twice a month and your channel will grow exponentially plus I want more content! 😂
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 8 ай бұрын
Hehe, thanks, I'll try! :)
@alechiodakat9057
@alechiodakat9057 6 ай бұрын
The biggest risk for loss in shipping is port delays. Why in goodness name would you massively increase your risk for a slight transit gain?
@wmchan44
@wmchan44 8 ай бұрын
Double handling of bulk cargo and containers adds time and additional costs to the "point to point" journeys (to and from China) and delay the total journeys and add to the ships turnaround.time. Both of the land projects mentioned in the video are therefore not viable economically. Also, the stacking order of containers when transferring them from one ship to another can results in really a mess up! Massive delays will arise if a container that need removal first is now restack at the bottom of other containers. Containers are not light lego bricks!
@alifalimazlan181
@alifalimazlan181 8 ай бұрын
R they not aware of regional conflict in southern Thai?
@pantelisvidakis9005
@pantelisvidakis9005 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the suggested route shortens the journey about 900 km/485 naut.miles. It takes out 1-2.5 days in terms of shipping time depending the speed of the vessel. It is a great ammount of time but not a huge one as the video suggests. I could see it making sense since we are talking about 180 ships crossing the strait (1 per 8 mins) but only in the sense of a canal which is easy to navigate. But still the cost per ship to pass would still could not be too big. Lets say for an average ship speed is 16knots, to cover an extra 900 kms it would take it 30 hours to pass through the strait of malaka. Depending the vessel and size to go through a suggesteed canal the cost would be something 60k-350k usd (Fuel,chartering cost and Opex). The canal (ok this is guestimate) could not charge more than 50k- 300k usd. And the socioeconomic cost to build something like this would be massive. To be frank even the canal doesnt make sense. That thing they are saying they are going to make doesnt make sense at all. In my eyes it seems like a way of making thailand indebted to China for a long time as well as being a convenient safety net for China. In my opinion the only thing i could see making sense is a pipeline through the suggested route for Crude oil. Only because it would be easy to load and unload. Seems like another Tactic of China to enslave another country through economic means.
@pantelisvidakis9005
@pantelisvidakis9005 8 ай бұрын
note the suez canal fee is 400k to 700k
@jqwoo
@jqwoo 8 ай бұрын
1) Canel or Rail from Thailand or Malaysia need to load and unload cargoes at both sides = A 2) Travel time from East to West = B 3) Current route = C Time required A+B > C = waste of time; Cost A+B > C = waste of money Efficiency A+B < C = lost of benefits If All the three above are A+B better than C, then it is worthy! Viola.
@PhantomOfManyTopics
@PhantomOfManyTopics 8 ай бұрын
Why not a canal?
@wisarutbholsithi5561
@wisarutbholsithi5561 7 ай бұрын
Well, Thai industrialists at Eastern seaboard as well as other industrial estates and Thai rubber plantation have fed up with the rising freight charges by Malaysian and Singaporean shipping companies for exporting their products to USA and European countries. That's why the government has to come up with such a project at the first place.
@yacoubalkhder2424
@yacoubalkhder2424 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting and informative video with lots of new logistical and shipping information in that very important water way, straight of Malacca 👍
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 9 ай бұрын
China will Not finance nor help in doing a canal. Reason: In the belt and road, they are already building a landbridge from port klang to kota bahru linking to south thailand. This rail link will reach yunnan province via Laos. Port klang is the 12th largest port in the world. This ECRL project is halfway done. Asia's longest rail tunnel will appear here.
@pengzhang5081
@pengzhang5081 9 ай бұрын
为何不会? 主要是 新加坡不允许美国不允许 明白吗啊 虽然新加坡🇸🇬和泰国🇹🇭都是美国殖民地 但是绝对不可以建造这个运河
@voidvector
@voidvector 9 ай бұрын
China would definitely help for a canal. Not only does it diversify its oil route, it also weakens Malacca Strait countries' leverage and ability to stay as geopolitical swing states.
@powerlinkers
@powerlinkers 9 ай бұрын
Port Klang to kuantan port.
@mabo9636
@mabo9636 9 ай бұрын
​@@pengzhang5081新加坡,泰国是美国殖民地说法夸张
@altoria-yhy
@altoria-yhy 9 ай бұрын
@@pengzhang5081新加坡和泰国更偏向中立。
@danielgoh1923
@danielgoh1923 8 ай бұрын
Trains can never replace ships when it comes to cargoes
@zzy341
@zzy341 7 ай бұрын
Why this project got so much attention? Why don't shift the attention to Singapore's port?
@mawazoaliselemani8909
@mawazoaliselemani8909 3 ай бұрын
Do you on puporse avoid to mention China?
@sogsog111
@sogsog111 8 ай бұрын
A land bridge doesn't mean much as to a canal since the cargos have to be transferred from ships to vehicles.
@joeycad
@joeycad 9 ай бұрын
It seems the pipeline might be the most cost effective part of the project.
@jamesloming
@jamesloming 8 ай бұрын
It is not just simply building a railroad. There are more factors involve in it, especially to be a successful transshipment hub. The ports handling, speed and efficiency, reliability, insurance cost. Singapore has been doing this for hundreds of years, they are world class, not easy to replicate, they are not worried. The first thing that come to consignor mind is will my TEU delivered in time and in one piece. If my insurer is worried, I better don't take the risk.
@desert_fox5641
@desert_fox5641 7 ай бұрын
I think a land bridge is not practical. So you need 2 container ships of similar capacity at both end. How about oil need to build a pipe line across the land.
@koa818
@koa818 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic Project 👍
@Trueye-sl2mr
@Trueye-sl2mr 8 ай бұрын
Why not build a canal instead of a rail link?
@wildbillbegleyjr.3523
@wildbillbegleyjr.3523 8 ай бұрын
One has been started another is being debated
@techvoyagers
@techvoyagers 9 ай бұрын
Nice vid 😅
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 9 ай бұрын
Thx!
@chanoliverkumyun9123
@chanoliverkumyun9123 7 ай бұрын
Singapore is more worried about the polar route than this😅
@koa818
@koa818 6 ай бұрын
Need high Speed Improvements projects 👍
@somewhereonearth2021
@somewhereonearth2021 8 ай бұрын
Is it possible if Thailand plans to build canal along the border between Thailand and Malaysia?
@wongpohchan9485
@wongpohchan9485 8 ай бұрын
Do the channel. This is the most practical way. I don't think ships would be atteacted to use the land bridge. 12:09
@AIYOLEH
@AIYOLEH 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. If I am not wrong China has just built a canal in Cambodia to link upstream MeKong River to Gulf of Thailand.
@hakimkamarudin1197
@hakimkamarudin1197 8 ай бұрын
You cannot bypass country with huge container capacity such as malaysia and singapore due to their export demand.
@godsoldier6240
@godsoldier6240 7 ай бұрын
More smart move will be Koh Taung in Myanmar. Its a mid size town with population around several hundred thousands. It will have no problem with cheaper laborers.
@thadiusthudpucker
@thadiusthudpucker 3 ай бұрын
But big problem with civil war
@doaibu1140
@doaibu1140 8 ай бұрын
Pertanyaannya apakah itu akan menguntungkan atau sebaliknya karena itu butuh biaya yang sangat besar,pasti akan membangun pelabuhan besar dan jembatan Apakah juga akan sepenuhnya kapal kapal akan lewat disitu
@nguyenphuongpham2787
@nguyenphuongpham2787 8 ай бұрын
Yang byk rugi adalah thailand sendiri..nanti melayu pattani akan masuk malaysia .bahkan thailand akan bayar royalti ke Malaysia..kerna mengubahkan landskap bernua menjadi pulau...kerana selatan Thailand sgt berdekatan dgn malaysia...bahkan disana selalu terjadi konflik peperangan askar Thailand melawan pemberontak pattani..
@doaibu1140
@doaibu1140 8 ай бұрын
Ya smoga aja sllu damai disana Klo kt sbgai orang awam hanya berfikir apakah itu mungkin terjadi sperti trusan zues
@nguyenphuongpham2787
@nguyenphuongpham2787 8 ай бұрын
@@doaibu1140 tidak akan terjadi thai akan dikecam seluruh dunia kerna mengubah benua menjadi pulau..kerna malaysia titik paling hujung benua daratan..
@akane8615
@akane8615 8 ай бұрын
@@nguyenphuongpham2787 Malaysia will never accept the southern thailand, if a separationist movement is trying to break free from the country, it will create instability in the region and will affect Malaysia too. The south is also known to have no resources in their land and taking in an extremist and unstable region will disrupt Malaysia safety and security.
@davidong1074
@davidong1074 6 ай бұрын
It will be costlier occupying 2 ships instead of 1, trucking and other logistics cost for the journey so it will cost more than the days saved.
@chanpeter6944
@chanpeter6944 4 ай бұрын
This canal is important n necessary to mitigate the jam in the straits of malacca n shorten travel time n also booming the economic between bit Malaysia n Thailand.👍 hoping it is going ahead .
@thomaswwwiegand
@thomaswwwiegand 6 ай бұрын
About the deviding: The 3 newer , mainly Muslim provinces are further south of the project than even famous 'integrated' tourist spots like Phuket, Samui and Krabi ! The 'separation' is just like many others happen in Thailand often with new highways = can't really walk to just 50 meter across living friends. For the bigger view that land bridge is no problem as sure the main highways will be there after also and connect. It is just a local problem, maybe up to 15 km around.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a problem is being custom made to match a solution.
@donhuang9855
@donhuang9855 8 ай бұрын
The "Sound" of regurgitating the KRA Canal project is a problem for some political entities, and the solution is Monies Talk, and Wealth Whispers.
@hotelNKdalat
@hotelNKdalat 2 ай бұрын
Ủng hộ bạn Thái làm kênh này , chúc Thái Lan phát triển , tình yêu từ Việt Nam
@mikejon100ify
@mikejon100ify 9 ай бұрын
I can’t see that getting off the ground because it means unloading a ship loading the goods onto railway wagons, unloading the railway Wagons, loading the containers onto another ship for ongoing transportation to the port of receipt. Far too much handling.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 7 ай бұрын
I disagree. Straits of Malacca is a chock point and could be blocked by foreign forces. Having an alternative route that allows goods to bypass the chock point makes strategic sense. Besides, the cargo can also go via railway that links to neighboring countries all the way to Chinese borders
@namazlur78
@namazlur78 7 ай бұрын
Most of the ships now unload using lorry from east to west malaysia. So their numbers are increasing. With the ECRL project that use electric trains it will be faster
@madman9185
@madman9185 7 ай бұрын
so thailand wants to be a secondary Chinese warehouse and port.
@richardstella5927
@richardstella5927 7 ай бұрын
Thailand and its Thai people will be very worried if this purported new rail “shortcut” is built.
@hiroshiyamashita2090
@hiroshiyamashita2090 8 ай бұрын
What about Sundra Straits. I know Japanese oil tankers use it, almost daily. Do a video, it will be interesting. Surely Kra Canal is too costly and difficult to encourage new users to venture that route. Besides the Thai King will not agree
@mwxfl-q9h
@mwxfl-q9h 2 ай бұрын
China’s opinion is that it doesn’t make much sense because the voyage distance is almost the same and the economic benefits are not obvious. As for the Strait of Malacca, the United States cannot block it because China has three large naval and air force military bases in the South China Sea, which has actually solved the security problem of Malacca. China's willingness will not be very high, but whether it is a land bridge or a canal, if Thailand wants China to help build it, China will agree.
@thedarkknight4243
@thedarkknight4243 8 ай бұрын
Good idea
@crisostomoreynaldo1280
@crisostomoreynaldo1280 6 ай бұрын
Thailand should invite the ASEAN members in which Thailand is a member.
@melheinrich5438
@melheinrich5438 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that Thailand 🇹🇭 doesn't get the assistance for resources with other countries. Then share the cost of revenue coming from usage. Example of countries is Japan, South Korea and Philippines would really enhanced trade for those countries and more.
@akane8615
@akane8615 8 ай бұрын
Too costly and risky.
@melheinrich5438
@melheinrich5438 7 ай бұрын
Shipping 🚢 industry wants more than you think, sir.
@thadiusthudpucker
@thadiusthudpucker 3 ай бұрын
The project has been financed by Opec
@michaellee3314
@michaellee3314 9 ай бұрын
In the event of a war between the US and China, China got many alternative land routes in the northern areas through land routes and rails. So, the Kra and Malaysia land link project may not be as important to China if the Malacca straits is blocked by the US. Btw, I don't think Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia will allow their SLOC to be block and sitting pretty.
@shanehansen3705
@shanehansen3705 9 ай бұрын
hahahaha the Malacca straights can easily be blocked without violating Singaporean sovereignty and the chinese navy will be forever locked in the CSC
@chi-jenyang9752
@chi-jenyang9752 9 ай бұрын
Blocking a canal is much easier than blocking a strait.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 9 ай бұрын
You do know Thailand is a strong ally of the US.
@mikethespike7579
@mikethespike7579 9 ай бұрын
China has alternative land routes in the north? New one on me. The few rail links I've seen are single line and have to negotiate mountains. Also, there isn't the rail stock to replace what huge ships can transport.
@mabo9636
@mabo9636 9 ай бұрын
​@@MrBoliao98then explain me why Thailand build rail link with China and buys Chinese warship
@edx9364
@edx9364 6 ай бұрын
9:47 please use google if you dont know how to respect a country by spelling its name right. Please correct it and respect the country mind u!
@DarkMeyer777
@DarkMeyer777 7 ай бұрын
In South East Asia, when there are major discontent in the society, politicians will try all their best to divert attention from these discontent by creating some "new interesting topic" that have no purpose
@harishrv
@harishrv 8 ай бұрын
I think these projects do not cut down cost much although it may take up the load of traffic congestion. Moreover water would power vehicles replacing petrol oil gradually in which case these projects become non feasible and redundant
@suhaibkhan798
@suhaibkhan798 3 ай бұрын
V good
@franklordcf419
@franklordcf419 8 ай бұрын
This canal is a Chinese canal, and it will be used for the Chinese aircraft carrier to get to the Indian Ocean quickly.
@anasqai
@anasqai 7 ай бұрын
There's alot of structures here, I feel it can't be that they really control everyone, its like 36years, I think if Thailand and Malacca somehow can help me from this, their bugging is into new inventions, I idea of Brunei to create tramlines in middle if helping but use both on same direction, I survive this long can't be allowing someone to die anyway, if somehow planning bread like rations(can notice even if 1 of it that day is stronger from rage stuff - the voltage from equator hole), watermelon farm for the juice will be superb too, just ideas of strength.
@syedputra5955
@syedputra5955 8 ай бұрын
For thailand its either a canal or dont build it. A rail bridge will fail. A canal. And canal should be wide enough for a two way traffic. And deep enough for mega container ships and super tankers.
@gjulia312
@gjulia312 7 ай бұрын
N f up ecosystem
@dieppeboon9627
@dieppeboon9627 8 ай бұрын
Two OIL RESERVOIRs .. one in East and one in West....2 Extremely LARGE oil Reserve on each side of the Kra Isthmus...
@nswsw
@nswsw 7 ай бұрын
In the event of war, how is this "blockade" a bad thing? It increases security in the region in fact.
@pangkiatloh4555
@pangkiatloh4555 6 ай бұрын
Not Strait of Malacca rival but helps it to become a pollution free strait. Good for eco system. Malaysia should build a rail link between Penang Port cross over to East Coast of Malaysia direct to Southern China.
@mna9211
@mna9211 8 ай бұрын
Krai canal will be economical than bridge,bridge will cost extra time and cost.
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 9 ай бұрын
This is a poor use of infrastructure capital. I doubt if they used a route 60 KM north or south would it be much cheaper.
@m.t.abdullah9747
@m.t.abdullah9747 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant thanks 🎉❤
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 9 ай бұрын
Railroad now, canal later! I still think and Krai canal should happen!
@stevenliew2507
@stevenliew2507 9 ай бұрын
Yes. The rail construction will definitely be faster and cheaper than the construction of the Canal.
@qiufusheng3058
@qiufusheng3058 9 ай бұрын
China's haters antagonized; their jealous hearts to sabotages China to develop international cooperations & economic developments would never come to good end.
@lancewood1410
@lancewood1410 9 ай бұрын
This i agree.
@quangthanhle1542
@quangthanhle1542 8 ай бұрын
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@benhogan4739
@benhogan4739 7 ай бұрын
Very sad to hear a mega port in the beautiful quiet little beach town of Chumphon. 😢
@thadiusthudpucker
@thadiusthudpucker 3 ай бұрын
It's not going through Chumphon town but about 50 km south
@stevensmith2078
@stevensmith2078 9 ай бұрын
Why not use the route to the south of Sumatra near Jakarta? Please explain.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 9 ай бұрын
It's not deep enough
@stevensmith2078
@stevensmith2078 9 ай бұрын
@@krollpeter Thank you. You are correct. Is deepening it an option? If no, why?
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 9 ай бұрын
@@stevensmith2078 From my info, they could create an undersea "channel", but the water flow direction would require to keep it forever free and that is a costly task.
@orgkampong
@orgkampong 8 ай бұрын
Like anything else in Indonesia, the Mafia is in control ! everyone knows about it, from Football to anything that bring in the cash .
@DonPedroII-uc9pd
@DonPedroII-uc9pd 7 ай бұрын
The Sunda Strait is very broad and deep at its southwestern end, but it becomes much shallower as it narrows to the northeast, with a minimum depth of only 20 meters in some areas. Navigating the strait is notoriously difficult due to its shallowness, strong tidal currents, sandbanks, and man-made obstructions such as oil platforms off the Java coast.
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