South African Border War | Mercenaries | Namibia | 32 Battalion | TV Eye | 1981

Extracts taken from the original report.
‘TV Eye’ flies to the border between Angola and Namibia where a vicious bush war is largely being unreported in the media between SWAPO guerrilla groups and the South African Military, including the infamous 32 Battalion.
First shown: 29/01/1981
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[@SenorTucano]

The reporter doesn’t dare ask why the Cubans are there in the first place 🤦‍♂️

[@rootin222]

Because they were asked by the sovereign government of Angola to support them

[@zulufighter]

@@rootin222 because they wanted cold war supremacy by taking control of whatever nation they can, are you that naive that you think cuba is there to save the day for whoever needs it, they wanted to take advantage of Angolas volatile state just like all other communist interventions

[@lucaswaggoner2524]

@@zulufighter you could simplify that by just saying they were listening to daddy ussr

[@Sam-my2qp]

@@zulufighter actually, castro was very pro revolution and wanted to support the civil rights in southern africa movement. Their presence in angola not only cost them and the ussr a lot of money, it also didn't play a major part in the cold war and some could even argue that it ultimately that it negatively affected Cuba. Also, the cubans weren't telling angola what to do, angola was actually very firm with Cuba. You clearly don't understand castro's revolutionary zeal if you think that Cubans actions in Angola were done purely for cuba and the USSR's benefit

[@Sam-my2qp]

@@lucaswaggoner2524 except for the fact that the ussr didn't even care about angola that much

[@obiknobi8447]

The reporter flying around in a Russian supplied helicopter, basing your conclusion on a 'random' civilian opinions. This is propaganda, not reporting.

[@SenorTucano]

Derrick Wardaugh nothings changed

[@Keranofkri]

They will keep denying Russian involvement even though there are Russians on KZbin that are talking about serving in Angola....spin

[@Jamal_dont_mess]

So in your own opinion it only be reporting if he was flying in a western made helicopter. What a hog wash?

[@Keranofkri]

@@Jamal_dont_mess point being if you're flying around in a Russian chopper don't tell me the russians are not involved...geographically Angola and Russia/Cuba is world's apart...this is no brainteaser.

[@Jamal_dont_mess]

@@Keranofkri Every country at the time had it's own interests to care for, so the same as Ameticans or SA had their eyes locked on Angola so the same former east block countries who also had their own interest there.So it shouldn't be a problem if joun flying in those birds.

[@tonynz9954]

I salute the brave men of 32 Battalion . This British reporter did not once speak out against communists, Russia , Cuba and East Germany. After all he was their guest.

[@jamadir]

@christo bosman Wow, i completely agree that this is onesided and not right but saying journalists should be killed because of somethig they said.

[@eddykoning9895]

@Robert Bowles No. Fake news or liers should be eliminated.

[@sliperysid]

@Robert BowlesI'm sure it was an emotionally charged comment from someone with a lot of skin in the game. I for one believe there needs to be consequences like public apologies and humiliation for the media when caught out lying and spreading half truths. #brexit #trump

[@Amanzi379]

He did mention the Soviets and Cubans?

[@shadowhawk506]

@@jamadir no just the ones who help to put us in this Sh@t

[@cayminlast]

During early 1978, we were stationed at Ogongo, a support base camp in Northern Namibia, we often had Bat. 32 and Pathfinder troops stop to re-supply and bring POW's to be transported from a helipad just outside the wire, we had to form a defense perimiter everytime a heli came in for a drop or pick-up. Crazy times.

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

was that 3SAI you were in?

[@JKuaresma]

About the white Angolan, for those who don’t know, in all Portuguese colonies there was white population since long, especially in Angola and Mozambique. There is nothing suprising in a white Angolan or a white Mozambican. In 1975, there was over a million of them (the large majority fled these countries in 1975). Needless to say, they can hardly be distinguished from a Portugal-born Portuguese. The man in the report was among the ones who chose to stay in Angola joining the Communist side, as there where others who joined South Africa (or Rhodesia) fighting namely in SADF’s 32nd Battalion.

[@Imnotayoutubechannel]

JKuaresma your gonna take the time to write a book maybe you should take the time to check your grammar

[@ShysterFraudstein]

@@Imnotayoutubechannel Said by someone who didn't use any punctuation.

[@tigershoot]

@@ShysterFraudstein And who uses 'your' instead of "you're"

[@pquirk7008]

@@tigershoot You got that one wrong. Your is a word that means belonging to, and you're is an aberivation of you are

[@zmajodnocaja5088]

when white man relinquished control and zionist communism arrived, it spelled doom.

[@horatiodreamt]

I remember that the publication called "Soldier Of Fortune" was covering this "brush war" when almost none of the Western news media reported on events there.

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

British journalism has always worn the tag of Lugenpresse with pride.

[@russellhaikney3809]

I was born in the fifties so did military service long ago and can let you know... seriously KAK reporting and journalism. A huge number of place names mentioned in Angola are false or did not or don't exist I so enjoyed Ovamboland that I went back after service to farm and lecture as senior agricultural officer at Ogongo agricultural college now University...for the Administration for Ovambos... The Old African...

[@daveloubser]

I was stationed at Ogongo in 1983 for 3 months.......

[@emmalouisejay387]

These old videos are SO important, thank you.

[@chrisest6715]

I agree, they are highly entertaining bull shit. Good to be able to laugh during a 21 day lock down.

[@lourensjacobs9089]

Funny to see it from the other side 😇

[@lyingeyes5579]

British reporter picking the side of the Commies. Typical.

[@joaopedropereira3848]

THANK YOU SA FOR FIGHTING THR COMMUNIST AGRESSION!

[@bobmarley4272]

They weren't fighting a communist aggression. South Africans thought that they would play their imperialist games in Africa.

[@diehard2705]

@@bobmarley4272 at a bare minimum they were fighting both. In all reality it was fighting communism by trying to keep Namibia as a buffer zone between them and communist Angola

[@derikuk2967]

@@bobmarley4272 It was a proxy war in the great scheme of the American Empire; you know, the very same one that is continuing its aggression around the globe to this day. However, the US seems to be in the *Thucydides' Trap* phase of their empire. The white South Africans were just dupes, as are the Ukrainians and the Kurds these days.

[@EasyMoney-p8k]

@@diehard2705 But why did they occupy Namibia in the first place?

[@diehard2705]

@@EasyMoney-p8k Because it was formerly. part of south africa? Peace keeping action to keep out communism

[@bobbybobby3070]

So cute this reporting ... SWAPO were monsters to local villagers who had nothing to do with anything. Thank God for the SA military. Cubans and Russians (and East Germans at the time) were trying to set up a “new” domino in Africa ... South African military were top notch

[@GlidingZephyr]

I suppose that explains why so many African military uniforms are modelled after Soviet and/or Russian patterns. It sickens me to my core when something like this happens. South Africa was fully independent and stable, back then. And compare South Africa to Angola, today. Where would you rather live? Exactly.

[@vikalawa5301]

Well south africa was not a heaven for african people back then ,you live a hard life with dignity or enjoy the fake luxury life with no spine

[@KAMOYA17]

@@GlidingZephyr South Africa was hell for the majority back then. As bad as things are now, it beats the atrocities perpetuated by the Apartheid regime

[@josedorsaith5261]

@@KAMOYA17 You lie, but we can easily see the truth by pictures of SA then Vs now

[@KAMOYA17]

@@josedorsaith5261 you talk about pictures when I live here. Things as bad as they are, are much better for the majority of the country then during Apartheid

[@adamgardiner5869]

"The nearest they get to air defence radar is a man up a tree with a decent view of the bush". Now that is both aw some journalism and very funny!

[@duartevillas7619]

Most of the roads were stripped from the tar during the Ultramar wars. This was a common way to approach ambush strategies or guerrilla style war in this part of Africa since it was super efficient on denouncing the presence of walking groups or vehicle movements on the roads over long distances from dust clouds... the reason why they kept using the roads was because all the land was insanely mined. Angola still is one of the most mined places on earth.

[@wernervanderwalt8541]

Which is actually not true. They had extensive Cuban, East German and Soviet support which included radar systems and SAM systems

[@duartevillas7619]

@@wernervanderwalt8541 I do not know if they could use them since there was no electricity... the dam of Calueque is a example of how several infrastructures were damaged strategically by Cubans or Soviet's, and the Biópio damn was also inoperative...

[@wernervanderwalt8541]

@@duartevillas7619 I have no idea what you are rambling on about. Most roads in that part of the world is not tarred in any case.

[@billyredelinghuys2229]

I was there if the south african government did not cave to international pressure unita would be in power. When making videos about angolan war please get your facts straight

[@91Neyyd]

Billy Redelinghuys and thank God this sell out Savimbi never went to power. Allying himself with the Afrikaners Regime during this time,just to get into power. This guy was a disgrace to Angola and all Africa.

[@dissdad8744]

That's incorrect Billy! UNITA never had the support of the majority of Angolans, they mainly represented the tribe that Savimbi descends from, the Ovimbundu People. Same with the FNLA, they mainly represented the Bakongo People, but did not have much supporters beyond that. The MPLA at that stage had the biggest supporter base: members from all the various tribal groups in Angola, many Portugese (those that stayed and worked with the Independent government) and Coloured Angolans. MPLA was seen as the most authentic movement out of the three, because the FNLA, aside from their small supporter base, had already discredited themselves by selling out to foreign interests and working as proxies for the Portugese colonialists and the Apartheid Boers. The UNITA made the exact same mistakes by siding with the Apartheid Regime - which of course meant that no freedom loving, self-respecting Angolan could take them serious any longer. In hindsight we have to realise that UNITA was basically a terror organisation: they forcibly recruited children, terrorised their own Angolan population and they were even aligned to other terror groups, including Arabic jihadists (those that eventually became Al Kaida). www.nytimes.com/1985/06/06/world/4-rebel-units-sign-anti-soviet-pact.html

[@andymcgrath2236]

Typical fake commi news happens all the time in Britain the BBC put 2 para's attack on the world service before it happened in the Falklands war traitors the BBC

[@91Neyyd]

@Claudio Oliveira Ok Oncle Tom. The apartheid regime was so great for black Africans, Savimbi was a traitor and I hope he burns in hell. He didn’t care about Angolans nor Africa, he only cared about money and power for himself. No African in his right mind would have allied with the apartheid regime or Reagan’s government.

[@megaliidea1919]

@@91Neyyd no one is defending apartheid idk what ur talking about

[@davidroux7987]

Anotjer pro black british documentary. Now, 40 years on, SA is firmly junk status.

[@Fat89789]

634k1 wasnt South Africa below investment grade pre 1994?

[@pdt7991]

@@Fat89789 Nope. The South African Rand was even stronger than the US Dollar

[@pufdadie]

want any affirmative action stories? Classic

[@Fat89789]

@@pdt7991 Hi friend, I just researched what you are saying and in nowhere in 1994 was the rand stronger than the dollar. Also check the attached link, you'll see that all the rating agencies had South Africa below investment grade after the change of government. tradingeconomics.com/south-africa/rating

[@greenleader758]

@@Fat89789 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_rand

[@glendodds3824]

No disrespect to Rhodesia intended, but South Africa was the region's superpower, a fact now often overlooked in commentary on the wars in southern Africa.

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

Actually, no one disputes that South Africa was better militarily in terms of technology and size. You made that up in your head.

[@glendodds3824]

Some people do claim that Rhodesia was the region's most powerful country. Alles van die beste.

[@ottomeyer6928]

@@glendodds3824 they were very good

[@peterwallace7015]

@@glendodds3824 Not sure who claim Rhodesia was the most powerful , obviously only by those that didn't have a clue and probably never been in Rhodesia. No one in Rhodesia ever claimed that as we were all well aware SA was multiple times stronger militarily , financially and population wise. Rhodesians were incredibly good in fighting the terrs but there are many reasons for that. There were only 250,00 whites in Rhodesia as against 4 million in SA. The SA airforce assisted in many cross border raids that greatly assisted the ground forces.

[@ravenmusic6392]

​@Glen Dodds The Rhodesians were better on an individual and tactical level than the SADF were, and achieved a lot more with their much smaller force. They suffered from dreadful political leadership and long term planning however

[@george941]

The times when SA was still king SA today can dream of having that kind of army

[@moosesnWoop]

clearly you didn't see last years video. Also, why would we need an army to be this battle trained? Who are we fighting? Lmao

[@kennedymogomotsi6973]

Why fight our African brothers and sisters.this people were just here to divide and conquer

[@adrianshephard378]

@@moosesnWoop *Turns on the news* Yourselves apparently.

[@titanicisshit1647]

More like a nightmare

[@george941]

@@titanicisshit1647 do you even have any idea about the history of the South-African army

[@Horizon344]

Amazing how high quality the current affairs/news reporting was back than, particularly when compared for the dumbed down quality of tv news today.

[@ValeryLevchenkoTurin]

I am sorry, but I saw western journalists gladly repeating communist lies to amplify them using free western press. Less of a quality. Having said that it was great to find this fragment due to its historical significance.

[@igweogba6774]

the modern world sucks

[@Godisnotjesus1967]

@@igweogba6774 Titus Pullo Few people know that American government sponsored much of the SADF onslaught (last few years offensive). I was Intelligence officer in the technical strategy office in Rundu, Namibia. That was were infantry, Airforce and Artillery were controlled from. Amazing how effective SADF defense and offensive machine operated. In 30 years of war....Rundu were not attacked even once. I lived the Angolan war since 1970 as a 4year old boy...till 1990.

[@InvisibleHotdog]

They were spewing garbage back then too

[@Horizon344]

@@Godisnotjesus1967 The USA also strangled Rhodesia to death with sanctions.

[@paulbergkamp2181]

FYI , its not RUNTU but RUNDU !!!! I was there in 1984- 1985

[@lourensjacobs9089]

Same as me👊

[@EdMcF1]

What was Gerry Adams doing in Angola?

[@sc3rwd4hk34hk]

Every righteous South African who fought in a regular army against Commun**m is a hero. They fought for the freedom of all of us. Gentlemen, you and your families can be proud of yourselves! Best wishes to all of you!

[@realestism]

Better comunism than apartheid

[@pixel6698]

Racists can cope.

[@peetsnort]

I'm still standing at 62. I worked with the 32 battalion a few times. They were like Jack Russell terriers. Always keen to fight

[@adrianshephard378]

@@realestism And South Africa is doing great in the modern times! >:)

[@sbevexlr848]

@@adrianshephard378 probably has to do with government bs rather than them being black, till this day there are aparthied stuck towns, if you think aparthied was great for south Africa and brang stability don't be shocked when you see poor black people in the country getting beaten up by the police

[@gerhardvictor5475]

Wonder if this journalists is still so pro communist after Covid 19?

[@MrSwifty21]

Do you mean the Chinese Chernobyl?

[@rootin222]

China is revisionist it invaded Vietnam in order to please the United States

[@PeterNgola]

This guy got killed in Angola

[@hanznel8488]

Hahahaha, a real piece of 'journalism'! Propaganda at it's best..... The South Africans took great pains to leave the civilians alone. The same cannot be said of both government and Unita forces who regularly massacred their own people for 'aiding the enemy', when their only crime was being in wrong place at the wrong times. Glad that part of history is over. The Angolans deserve their peace, free from outside interference.

[@MegaJohny56]

after all these year delusion still at play

[@dlennox1629]

South Africa is not a country to play with. Africa's superpower. These people had nuclear weapons. A hard country, tough people.

[@ottomeyer6928]

yeah dar is hey

[@tinyrautenbach9717]

Not any longer, no more nuclear, they were destroyed before the black goverment took over. Unfortunately South Africa has become just another useless African country. No country survive black rule for more than 30 years.

[@samuelgleek956]

But they still lost to Angola lol

[@moosesnWoop]

@@tinyrautenbach9717 usually because Europeans are meddling here. Look at Mozambique right now - oh you have LPG gas?

[@denisbacic2449]

@@tinyrautenbach9717 that is only because they are undermine constantly in counterintellegence and other means of special warfare,in order to practically steal tatural resources from them,not becausr they are not competent.race does.not.matter ,but unfortunatelly invisible,by money invested secret economical warfare.it hapens all the time.

[@HBosman]

Interesting to see the "other" side of a story, yet like in any war false propaganda plays a major role. A couple of mistakes: it is RunDu not RunTu. Further, the vast majority of SA and Namibia's 32 battalion and Koevoet was black. Same for 101 or earlier 35 Bat. As for attacks on FAPLA - of course. When any enemy shoots at you, you retaliate. Not sing choir boy songs. As for slaughter of civilians - rubbish! There were follow-up operations and since civilians were often harboring and supplying Swapo fighters they were interrogated or questioned and info obtained but there is zero evidence of "slaughter". In that interview the civvies would say so when standing with the Angolan Forces next to them. Even though I was in the SADF, they did not actually have air superiority. The Cubans did. The SA air force suffered from sanctions and struggled to keep up with the latest tech even though the pilots were world class. They were stuck with old Mirages and the Cheetah came too late in the conflict. In fact, Cuban air superiority was the major turning point forcing withdrawal which escalated with the attack on Calueque and the dam in 1988. But this was after the total annihilation of Angolan, Swapo and Cubans at Cuito Cuanavale (much of this due to the massive striking power of SA's G5 and G6 artillery) when the Cubans opened up a 2nd front. Savimbi of the rebel UNITA was of course assassinated (or killed in battle - though 15 gunshot wounds is not often a result of battle).

[@tigershoot]

Thanks - excellent information.

[@duartevillas7619]

That's very accurate. I was there five years ago in Calueque, Ondjiva and Cuito and it still had all the military artefacts lying all over the place from Cuban MIGs attacks. I would only point out the operation Savana in 1976 and the Francisco Daniel Roxo aka Dany Roxo war affairs. Btw, from what I have read and heard, Savimbi was assassinated during a peace treat between MPLA and UNITA by a militarise police force trained to circumvent the peace treat policies.

[@person.X.]

I wonder if the white Angolan soldier was really Angolan or a Cuban advisor. What a crazy war - South Africa/Angola vs Angola/Namibia/Cuba. One of my South African cousins fought in this war as an officer in command of Angolan (Unita I imagine) troops. He told me of a story were the bus they were travelling in as a unit crashed killing some of his troops and the rest of the soldiers were so enraged they beat the bus driver to death.

[@EdMcF1]

That white Angolan sounds to me like a Portuguese does when speaking English, rather than a Latin American Spanish speaker speaking in English. His Portuguese sounds to me like a native speaker of Portuguese, so he could be a white Angolan born there under Portuguese rule who stayed on rather than a Cuban. The Portuguese Army of the 1970s had a lot of Commies in it, look at 1975 in Portugal. He also looks like a 1970s Commie.

[@person.X.]

@@EdMcF1 Thanks. I was wondering about the language. I don't have the language skills to tell if he was a native Spanish or Portuguese speaker. That makes it even more fascinating for me. I guess as you say that the motivation for a Portuguese soldier to stay with the Angolans was communism.

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[@Eastbridge2100]

EdMcF1 that white man had to much facial hair especially on his forehead. His code name was unibrow.

[@juliehaward7270]

person X probably 32 battalion not unita

[@patrickoberem9109]

Ask the thousands of civilians who fled to Namibia and the South Africans for protection....

[@wiank6459]

Everyone who fails to understand why this video makes everyone so angry doesn't know the true and difficult situation of South Africa today and in Apartheid.

[@antonfeichtmeir961]

It makes them angry because it is doesn't make the SADF look like the heroes that neckbeards imagine them to be.

[@wiank6459]

​@@antonfeichtmeir961Yeah, can't believe this reporter didn't interview the super uncontroversial South Africans and just got the opinion of these totally noble and wise freedom fighters. It's almost like he just wants to hear one side of the story😢

[@Godisnotjesus1967]

At the peak of Angolan offensive......32 Batalion was by far the best fighting and most effective war machine in the world. Compared with Russia, USA marines, Chinese and French legion soldiers.....32 Batalion was devastating and extremely mortal. This video was made by biased and bribed cowards.

[@pquirk7008]

He nose tjen

[@thepatriotsrage661]

@Raymond O'Connor Really? None of them were fighting a war at the time, we were (not to mention being fucked over by the U.S) He is right.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

@Raymond O'Connor So how do effectively compare battlefield experience and skill? Peacetime does not a soldier make.

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

@@thepatriotsrage661 Maybe the best at bush warfare but that is about it. The finnish or russian special forces would eat them for dinner in their snow territory.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

@@ktheterkuceder6825 Well yes, apples with apples comparison. Home ground advantage is just that. They were extremely effective, but I have no idea what their current capability is like.

[@juvenaldasilva413]

Angola teched them a lesson thanks to Angola ,Cuba, and soviet Union apartheid is over and Namibia is independent. Angola 🇦🇴✊✊✊

[@theodoros9428]

I met a man which was in Rekkies The Cubans payed heavy price in Angola Many Zulu fought side by side with them

[@ravenmusic6392]

In total they suffered about 3,000 killed of which about 200-300 were in battles with the SADF. The SADF suffered about 150 dead fighting the Cubans

[@craigbritz1684]

@@ravenmusic6392 Your figures are completely wrong. Cuban deaths were in the thousands, SA didnt take that many casualties but it also depends what time frame you are looking at. What year?

[@Anti-terrorist3112]

Recce , not rekkies 😂😂😂😂

[@ActionMan965]

Just how far back does 'fake news' go?!

[@stewartw.9151]

For ever?

[@adrianshephard378]

It goes back as far as there have been evil people seeking to gain power

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

All the way.

[@matthewthomas8432]

Proud to have served in the SADF during the war

[@simplyballing1592]

Proud to be a racist? Accept black majority rule!

[@EasyMoney-p8k]

Yet the SADF failed to achieve its objections. Apartheid failed. SWAPO still controls Namibia and the ANC took control of South Africa

[@toonmag508]

I met an ex Rhodesian air force pilot, a few years ago. He raved about the Hawker Hunters ability to hit moving enemy columns and the accuracy of the cannons. One story mentioned that he won a bet with his wingman by hitting a wagon drivers mate , through the windscreen, with one shot of the cannons. I was, and still am confused whether he was flying over Angola or neighbouring Rhodesian enemy countries.

[@Tonyx.yt.]

Yeah hawker hunter had powerfull autocannons, 4x 1200 rpm with 30mm rounds is no joke, with 800m/s muzzle speed was not the best solution for air to air combat but burst mass per second was very high for a fighter jet.

[@pquirk7008]

I don't think the Rh Air force ever went into Angola. The ZIPRA tees were in Zambia and the ZANLA were in Mocambique. Tiger sorties would only have been in those countries as well as on their own country

[@vanessasmook4229]

@pquirk7008. You are wrong about that. Rhodesian intelligence picked up a huge base in Angola 🇦🇴 in 78-79. The then Rhodesians got in contact with the South Africans and a joint bombing raid was carried out by both S.A and Rhodesian Airforces. I do however not believe that the Rhodesians ever had security forces on the ground in Angola 🇦🇴.

[@wernervanderwalt8541]

Your referring to something that happened in Mozambique. The Rhodesian security forces conducted extensive operations in the Mozambican provinces bordering Rhodesia.

[@mdk9495]

One sided propaganda BS video!!!

[@ottomeyer6928]

you are out to lunch.have you ever been in south Africa?

[@andre3823]

A pity we were sold out, otherwise we could have cleaned up the communists.

[@killerpighis9084]

First of all this has nothing to do with race only african communism

[@simplyballing1592]

Why was there apartheid in South Africa at that time?

[@trendygadgetz]

It was all about race you freakin boer

[@tmajec]

It was about race!

[@deonrademeyer6464]

That "White soldier" is actually a Cuban, and not an Angolan. A lot of one sided propaganda in this video. Grain of salt.

[@michaelsamuel9917]

Apparently Angolan soldiers weren't too fond of them I learned this from two Ex Angolan soldiers in Canada! The Angolans thought they were too racist.

[@juvenaldasilva413]

Not true, he is Angolan he was not the only one.

[@tmajec]

A Cuban with a Portuguese accent? I guess you are some kind of expert.

[@punictunic]

I'd like to see the rest of this report. I think it included an interview with Trevor Edwards who made various claims against 32 Battalion.

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

Trevor Edwards made various false allegations against the SADF's operations and in particular, 32Bn, and then escaped to Botswana and hid out in a British Embassy for, IIRC, half a year, before escaping to the UK, where he made those allegations.

[@lukeedwards-OG]

Trevor Edwards, my father told the truth.

[@andrejansen9003]

@@lukeedwards-OG Like hell he did

[@lukeedwards-OG]

@@andrejansen9003 He did buddy

[@miermana2935]

Interesting... So the whole camp was destroyed? (5 minute mark )But the reporter only show 1 old burned out vehicle... The big camp only consist of that? I call BS.

[@Springbok295]

Pity the SAN didn't torpedo every Cuban vessel that sailed to Angola.

[@zoltancsikos5604]

Springbok295 Truth.

[@philipjooste9075]

Well, they did blow up a couple of them in port.

[@rogerflack415]

I'd like to see the other part of this program where Trevor Edwards was interviewed.

[@filmcameras4evr45]

These comments.. white fragility galore 🤣 The South Africans went there to neutralise the threat from SWAPO and the ANC, to maintain rule over Namibia and Apartheid, they lost. They sold it as a victory to the people of SADF because the Cubans pulled out. Despite the fact the Cubans planned to do so when Namibia was independent. Two sides to this story. Both are true depending on who you speak to. "An empty barrel makes the most noise.."

[@adrianshephard378]

How's south Africa doing today?

[@grimmurray]

Angolan propaganda , the Cubans were fighting for them .

[@sc403]

If only the apartheid government didn't segregate SA and united all south Africans like in the army, SA would still be the African superpower, the Apartheid(politicians) divided the country which made it easier for SA to fall to what it is today, I feel sorry for all that served in the army.

[@derikuk2967]

You seem to have a scant grasp on South African history. The *UNION* of South Africa did not exist until 1910. Apartheid only became a legal policy in 1948, but morphed from mining and labour agreements from the Peace of Vereeniging (1902).

[@MuppetJoe]

Excellent propaganda piece! Well done commies...

[@Godisnotjesus1967]

Titus Pullo Few people know that American government sponsored much of the SADF onslaught (last few years offensive). I was Intelligence officer in the technical strategy office in Rundu, Namibia. That was were infantry, Airforce and Artillery were controlled from. Amazing how effective SADF defense and offensive machine operated. In 30 years of war....Rundu were not attacked even once. I lived the Angolan war since 1970 as a 4year old boy...till 1990.

[@djharto4917]

The whole world couldn’t beat the boers. Respect to the Afrikaans !

[@simplyballing1592]

The British defeated the boers in South Africa. SWAPO defeated the boers in northern Namibia. Apartheid was destroyed. The boers kept losing

[@djharto4917]

Yes it took the British empire a half a million trained soldiers and the opening of concentration camps to target boer women and children to bring 32 thousand part time boer farmers to negotiate a peace. It must be embarrassing for you when you look at the achievements of the boers to your own people.

[@simplyballing1592]

@@djharto4917 Yes we the indigenous people of Namibia are proud of what' we've achieved in our 32 year existence as a peaceful, democratic country. We are steadily improving our economy, infrastructure, etc... and most importantly we don't oppress other people. We don't discriminate based on race, gender or whatever else. Unlike the racist boers. We are teaching the local boers how a society is suppose to function.

[@maureenjackson2041]

@@simplyballing1592 I call the narrow minded Boers Europeans, if they don't like too bad. They were the oppressors of black South Africans for many years.

[@adrianshephard378]

@@simplyballing1592 You guys literally just elected Adolf Hitler

[@shanevermij4780]

This some of the biggest lot of bull I have heard in along time

[@simplyballing1592]

I'm just glad those White South Africans lost and Apartheid was soon destroyed in both Namibia & South Africa. Black majority rule!!!

[@markhanks1608]

West should have supported SA plus Rhodesia who were fighting Communists...

[@bafanamsibi4388]

They could not because they were fighting for something that was not theirs.

[@splashafrica]

@Raymond O'Connor SA had already agreed to give Namibia independence it just wanted a buffer from the MPLA who backed MK and SWAPO both designated terrorists organizations in SA attempt time

[@adrianshephard378]

@@bafanamsibi4388 The British and Dutch settled south africa decades before the Bantu arrived. The Bantu were the invaders

[@tmajec]

Oh so it was all about the Communists, and not the Africans fighting for their freedom and lands? Wow!! I never would have guessed

[@joseesteves3744]

Your reporting is wildly inacurate

[@SailingRhapsode]

A load of biased BS!

[@tmajec]

Oh really? What were you seeking to validate?

[@shadowhawk506]

wish they could read the book Recce kleinspan operasies by Koos Stadler and see the photos in the book as well about our black soldiers there that worked side by side with white soldiers

[@andyrob3259]

Smug middle class westerners sitting at home. And isn’t Angola now peachy keen that it’s got its own way.

[@neilarmitage6632]

And this report it screwed and inaccurate

[@markburke2853]

Inevitable TV Eye, leftie reporting, viewpoint of the, now defunct, conflict, no wonder the TV crew were allowed into Angola by the 'left wing' government as they were both 'on side'. The Cubans were not mentioned in this 'edited' clip because the original programme ran for 30 mins odd, so this part is taken out of context to show, the then, SA in a bad light. Interesting to note that back in the mid 1970's UNITA, at one time, held territory over most of southern Angola, just south of Luanda, and FPLA held the northern bit, and both were poised to take Luanda where the MPLA were forced to take refuge. Then the Soviets 'asked' their Cuban ally to assist, and 'Fiddle' Castro suddenly announced brotherly love to Angolan Africans (well, the MPLA at least) and sent 50,000 Cubans plus lots of Soviet equipment and tanks to Luanda, and, from then on both UNITA and FAPLA were driven back to where this programme came in. As long as Savimbi's UNITA controlled the southern half of Angola Namibia was safe from SWAPO, but when the Cuban backed MPLA appeared on the border then SA had to intervene big time. The US were still smarting from Vietnam and under 'Peanuts Carter', to do anything about the Soviet backed intervention, so relied on SA to keep the communists out of Southern Africa. If you read Col. Jan Breytenbach's book on 32 Battalion, the 'Buffaloes' plus other material from that time you'll get a much better picture than anything 'TV Eye' would be able to come up with.

[@andrewthacker114]

Very interesting clip

[@iphoneupdate]

The white Angolan speaks beautiful English.

[@michaelwallace1329]

He received good schooling in Cuba.

[@MondoBeno]

Were Cuban pilots flying the Angolan warplanes? How could Angola have warplanes but no defense radar? Did no African leader ever understand that freedom is just another way of saying "we can fuck things up all by ourselves" ?

[@ckm-mkc]

I remember at the time (early to mid 80's) buying Soldier of Fortune magazine which had tons of stories of (usually white) mercenaries operating in this area, with photos even.

[@mh53j]

@morton christie I met a Marine in 1982 who, we were told, had been in "southern Africa", but that's all that was said. Also was at Coronado Naval Base in 1980, saw a bunch of SEALs in Rhodesian camouflage uniforms. I asked a Gunny accompanying or group who they were and why they were dressed that way; he asked how I knew those were Rhodesian uniforms. After I explained, he told me to forget what I saw and keep my mouth shut about it.... Have also seen pictures of SADF special forces wearing ERDL boonie hats in the '80s. At that time, only Marine Recon, SEALS and Army special forces we're about the only ones still issued Vietnam era ERDL uniforms. Some uniform trading going on I suspect.

[@chrisest6715]

@morton christie There were a couple of Yanks at 6SAI for a short while back in the mid 80's.

[@chrisest6715]

@morton christie Still US forces, I think there just to observe how we did what we did. And if I remember correctly, very impressed with our level of training. We did 6 months basic training before being deployed back then.

[@chrisest6715]

@morton christie Basic infantry training. Boot Camp. Then you could go into a different "specialised" branch if you had not done so already. To train for 18 months when call up was only for two years seems someone is adding glory to their resume. Especially artillery and parrabat training? For what reason? To parachute with a G6 artillery cannon into combat? Or they're getting their total call up time mixed with their basic training time. Or they were permanent force members training for more permanent roles in the SADF.

[@chrisest6715]

@morton christie Let's make this simple. It's a time of my life that I would like to forget. I can only speak of my personal experiences and memories as what they are. I did six months basic training in the SADF in the mid 80's out of a total 2 year call up. Then I went on to do some more training as an observer. Infantry also did 60mm mortar training with a mortar division manning the 81mm mortars, trained by the infantry not the artillery. I did not study the SADF when I was there, I did what I was called up to do and put it behind me as soon as I could.

[@greasyflight6609]

I had relatives serving in Rhodesia...they left the country in 1979. I do not know much about them...info from my Grandmother...she told me that "everyone suffered"

[@0374-x7c]

All I heard was "Waaa whitey is beating us fair and square even though we have soviet support, international community please help reeee"

[@edgyant8139]

Namibia won It's independence regardless of South Africa's military victories, while Apartheid South Africa ended in 1994 because they couldn't keep their power and economic prowess while giving 89% of the population no political rights All these people in the comments can do about it boast about how "WE FOUGHT WITH EVERYTHING WE GOT TO PREVENT THE COMING IN POWER OF BL-COMMUNISTS" They can talk about their army's victories all they want but that doesn't stop the fact that they didn't keep holding on to Namibia lol

[@edgyant8139]

In fact them being mad at this conflict and the current of SA isn't them literally reeeing?

[@WhitesAreDelusional]

Then it means something is seriously wrong with your poor white eyes ears Go fix them white bou

[@brentrenkin4242]

What a pot kak!!!! (Pot kak = pot of crap!!!) Even the sound of the "command helicopter" is a piston engine but it is a turbine helicopter in real life. The reporter talks to a Cuban but says he has not seen foreigners in Angola.

[@ronaldbasel4249]

This report is so fallacious. First-hand knowledge of Cubans and Russians and SWAPO combined with firsthand knowledge of operations of 32 Battalion say so. Looks like “false news” is not new to this century.

[@Tiberii1832]

Nor to the British.

[@antonfeichtmeir961]

*Evidence*, please?

[@charliemansonUK]

6:36 thats one heck of a monobrow my mans rocking...

[@ianhall3822]

As Charles Darwin said, "Victory lies not with the strong but to those who can breed the fastest " In Africa this meant the greater fertility of the Black woman compared with the White woman. The Black population of South Africa now numbers fifty million, whereas the white population has stayed at its pre-1994 level of less than five million. There are now fifteen million blacks in Zimbabwe now, compared with five million in 1979. The refusal of white women to breed in large numbers, was the main cause of the downfall of White rule. ,

[@Terranallias18]

To be fair I'd imagine a good number of South Africans, at least the well off ones fled the country because they didn't want to share it with the natives. Also I South Africa is not a white country it's a African country, so basically it's the opposite of what you fear would happen to Europe

[@derikuk2967]

Demographics is destiny. The future belongs to those who show up for it. However, the main thing that toppled Apartheid was the *integration* of the black population into the South African economy. Apartheid politicians thought they would always be the white dog that wagged the black tail - but that tail quickly grew bigger than the dog and started doing the wagging. As much as the popular myths attribute the "struggle" to Mandela and the ANC, the actual hard "fighting" was done by COSATU (Congress of South African Trade Unions) under the leadership of one Cyril Ramaphosa. South African industry, commerce and mining could not continue without their black labour and the economic power of the growing black population. Under such economic pressures, the white government had to concede and capitulate. No amount of military power and success was going to avoid the economic realities. FYI, I am a Boer. As a young man I saw some of these realities up close and personal. It could have been different, but the die was cast in the latter half of the 19th century.

[@craigbritz1684]

@@derikuk2967 This does not deny the fact that your Boer leaders ( FW De Klerk, Pik Botha,etc.) sold you out and didnt give a shit about you or your boerevolk and became very rich.

[@A-fl1ln]

I'm sorry to say this to the whites in Namibia and south Africa. I'm lucky that the former Apartheid government signed a peace treaty because as a child in was brought to the former east Germany.I see on Internet now how well the former South African army was well organised=lucky I didn't need to fight for swapo otherwise I would be not alive.They lie to as and told as how easy it would be to defeat the former South African arme

[@MrTinbuzzard]

*_In Washington, dismayed by the actions of Congress, President Ford addressed the press and spoke the prophetic words:_* _The Senate decision to cut off additional funds for Angola is a deep tragedy for all countries whose security depends upon the United States. Ultimately, it will profoundly affect the security of our country as well. How can the United States, the greatest power in the world, take the position that the Soviet Union can operate with impunity many thousands of miles away with Cuban troops and massive amounts of military equipment, while we refuse any assistance to the majority of the local people who ask only for military equipment to defend themselves?_ _The issue in Angola is not, never has been, and never will be a question of the use of U.S. forces. The sole issue is the provision of modest amounts of assistance to oppose military intervention by two extra-continental powers, namely the Soviet Union and Cuba. This abdication of responsibility by a majority of the Senate will have the gravest consequences for the long-term position of the United States and for international order in general._ _A great nation cannot escape its responsibilities. Responsibilities abandoned today will return as more acute crises tomorrow._ hbooyens.wordpress.com/amabhulu-topics/the-1975-us-congress-gave-us-911/

[@gertgilich3508]

'Investigation'..my arse. Haha. Soutie weet vokol!

[@PRDIGM]

Biased reporting even then!

[@YesYes-xb6he]

Thames television, so good they are where now?

[@AlexH-wq3vq]

What a load of BS

[@arandomdude1291]

My dad did his national service in 1981 to 83

[@vincentralph2680]

SADF dominated southern Angola.

[@tmajec]

And were on their way to losing.

[@vincentralph2680]

@@tmajec losing.? Check the stars after the bush war. Cuban general recalled to Havana and executed. Get the facts correct.

[@toonmag508]

Sorry not Angola, I meant Namibia, but still confused.

[@romanchng7673]

This is a great SADF ！ Today the SANDF just so so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@louis4949]

Great reporting! Always wanted to find more stuff out about the border war.

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[@chrisest6715]

Well this is the unicorns and fairies version.

[@lipeferreira7]

That's far too biased and filled with far many too many lies

[@adrianshephard378]

Wdym? It's just a typical news report

[@tmajec]

The biggest lie of this war was being told that it was a war against communism

[@jessilopes]

There is a lot of incorrect info here...

[@kpl455]

HAHAHA understatement of the year

[@TamimLB]

I wish Namibia rejoins South Africa as a country. Maybe Botswana will join too.

[@splashafrica]

I can see an argument being made for the Swazi to join SA but not the rest

[@TamimLB]

@@splashafrica Swazi and Lesotho are meant to be part of SA but they got the opportunity to stay separate kingdoms. Namibia and Botswana are so closely tied to South Africa that if we tried making one big Fed it would work quite well.

[@derikuk2967]

Why would any country join a failed state? South Africa will probably disintegrate with this decade.

[@ellismeah5127]

One of the biggest story's to come out of this war to the West was a cournal Callan and his team of mercenaries from England, who fought against the communists eventually shot by firing squad for his massacre , around 74/75 i was around 19 at the time spoke to Callan on the phone in England to join his recruits ,but ended up missing the bus due to late finding meeting place

[@urhunn7778]

Colonel Callan executed some of his own men, too, so maybe you were better off this way. Did you follow up with your plan of becoming a mercenary after this?

[@ellismeah5127]

@@urhunn7778 no nothing so exciting ,couple of years later joined the railway to earn some money , maybe looking back wasn't meant to probably wouldn't have been here to tell the tale

[@urhunn7778]

@@ellismeah5127 At age 18 I was afraid of the upcoming final school exams, so I decided to run away to the French Foreign Legion. My mother figured out my intentions, and she hid my passport. I passed the exams, and I never joined the legion.

[@ellismeah5127]

@@urhunn7778 funny enough I was standing outside a French foreign legion recruitment office in Marseille in the 80s but it was closed , another opportunity missed

[@urhunn7778]

@@ellismeah5127 You know, if the shit really hits the fan in the Ukraine, we might get the war we were dreaming of in our 20s. Unfortunately fighting in a war will be literally the last thing we will want to do now, after age 40...

[@alexhidell8022]

Who was the White Angolan????

[@floating-in]

It was a Portuguese territory

[@ellismeah5127]

Probably from Cuba or Portugal

[@juvenaldasilva413]

​@@ellismeah5127no he is from Angola., he is our brother.

[@juvenaldasilva413]

Yes many of them, their are our brothers.

[@Questavest]

Now the equivalent of this reporter is the Prime Minister

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

My old swaar was there

[@adamkentisaac]

"You're gonna extract him?" FUCK YES I AM

[@pavelhruska6512]

The white angolan officer is russian. Dont you hear the accent?

[@ПетрВрангель-т8п]

Are you imbecile or just idiot? Where you hear Russian accent here? Especially from this obviously southern european looked man. He is portuguese or even an cuban military advisor, but definetly not Russian.

[@suzannekapp9238]

Salute daddy. DR. PHIL MEYER. I GREW UP IN RUNDU military's base. Santa was scary on a tank, sand dunes, oarker homes, children playing chicken between military trucks some loosing their lifes. Windows vibratinf with the powerful noise of the mirages in school. Vlossie fly to Pretoria with soldiers circle round and round to go and to land t Soldiers and their favorite dark curly bush tiny minny me princess throwing up in brown paper bags. Savimbi. My father was his doctor. I have photos with him. Great respect. Even gifts signed from him to my father and mother MY HERO

[@colinhoward74]

Another Angolan lie is the SADF targeted civilians , that was not so , SWAPO targeted civilians and also used them as human shields . Fapla must not lie like that .

[@tmajec]

They did

[@Imnotayoutubechannel]

Suspicions make you poor

[@Peter-dm3wg]

These guys obviously "reported" on opinions, and lies and not facts.

[@dannyarcher6163]

I bet the British are proud of what they achieved in Africa.

[@tmajec]

What did they do?

[@bbviljoen1153]

Propaganda!!!

[@reyvan3806]

I actually think this reporter did a good job of at least trying to objective. Obviously FAPLA was going to stage manage things to ensure the best possible outcome of the report but he didn't just completely swallow all he was told ( the old aircraft wrecks for example). If the South Africans wanted more favourable press they should have been more daring with inviting reporters onto Ops with them too. The attack on Cumato was based on faulty intelligence as the SADF did think it was a SWAPO/ PLAN base ( see Peter Macalese "No mean soldier"). Although once they realised it was a FAPLA (Angolan army) base they continued with the attack anyway. As to the claim 32 Bn recce'd the base, I don't know if that actually happened. Hardly a shocking/ controversial thing if it did happen but with the SADF being so secretive at the time how would a reporter know either way?

[@jeroenjansen2709]

If Angola wanted to have a communist government what gives other armies the right to invade, kill and destroy?

[@zulufighter]

If germany wanted to have a nazi government, what gives others the right to invade, kill and destroy?

[@jeroenjansen2709]

@@zulufighter Exactly

[@zulufighter]

@@jeroenjansen2709 so you are a supporter of nazism?

[@maureenjackson2041]

@@jeroenjansen2709 Probably a European Afrikaner as well as a nazi, whom I can't stand and whom are the enemy.

[@GambianoBahiano315]

@@jeroenjansen2709 you support the same who lost to communists multiple times. Imagine being a far right white supremacist instead of being a based Conservative African nationalist or a Based white Liberal socialist.

[@namelessentity5851]

"TV Eye"... I dunno, the first thing that comes to mind is Ewan McGregor singing that song, while all nudified and covered in glitter, in the film "Velvet Goldmine". You can't forget that.

[@TheBodieClan]

LOLOLOL

[@BOB-wx3fq]

Such a weird war, this is like micro nations conducting their own proxy wars, Cuba a big player on the left of Angola South Africa on the right You know your country sucks when Cubans are the muscle to help you get independence

[@henniejurgen1147]

But we're still thankfulo t them

[@adrianshephard378]

Cubans.....Cubans and Russians.......and East Germans.......and Romanians.......and Chinese........and Yugoslavians.......pretty much Europe and Asia.

[@rahowherox1177]

cuba received massive loans from soviet union with cuban involvement in proxy wars being the interest on said loans.

[@baconking1160]

I never knew the cubans deployed troops. Interesting.

[@joaopedropereira3848]

THE

[@InConsulting]

It's amazing that misinformation and misdirection was already at play in these years😱

[@platvis379]

Moenie poes praat nie

[@trendygadgetz]

Inokala onufu kaa. Shanyoko

[@vanessasmook4229]

A whole lot of woffle . One has grown to expect nothing less of British journalism .