The Only Mechanics You REALLY Need To Learn

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Thanovic

Thanovic

Күн бұрын

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@GuilleVQ
@GuilleVQ Жыл бұрын
Crazy that you didn't mention passes, fake plays, 50/50, fake challenges, or even demos and bumps. All of them are top 10 mechanics in my opinion.
@JustDrewski
@JustDrewski Жыл бұрын
Agreed well everything but fake plays. Those are optional
@Vex745
@Vex745 Жыл бұрын
@@JustDrewskifakes are top 10 imo, just because a good fake can keep the other team guessing for the rest of the game
@memegamingedits
@memegamingedits Жыл бұрын
bro their not mechs
@Yretrub
@Yretrub Жыл бұрын
That’s game sense it’s not mechs
@connorallan8080
@connorallan8080 Жыл бұрын
50s is the only one I see as a mech. Demos is game sense. And basic car control. Fakes are an addition on whatever you faking.
@Bucko99
@Bucko99 Жыл бұрын
If we're counting rotations I would redefine that as positioning in general and make it number 1. You literally cannot do anything useful unless you are in a position to do so. Other than that my list wouldn't have any major differences, so great video!
@jordanyoung8703
@jordanyoung8703 Жыл бұрын
W comment
@hhaste
@hhaste Жыл бұрын
Great list, however I would rearrange the top 5 a bit. I would put rotation at number 1, shooting at 2, aerials at 3, recoveries at 4 and air roll at 5. Maybe swapping 3 and 4, depending how new of a player you are. If you're new, recoveries would be more important than aerials.
@MrGorillaspam
@MrGorillaspam Жыл бұрын
The AppJack flip cancel shot might be my favourite RLCS goal. That shot was so clean
@Atomz09
@Atomz09 Жыл бұрын
Bro ain’t no way lol
@rraaiin
@rraaiin Жыл бұрын
if you think thats good watch some noflip goals
@James_A_Woods
@James_A_Woods Жыл бұрын
Tbh shadow defence is the only 1 I disagree with bc every game you will be in the position yo shadow defend multiple especially in low ranks where positioning is worse and ur tm8s need more time to recover
@TheDevil69270
@TheDevil69270 Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I respect most of your takes. HOWEVER, how is flip canceling lower than chain dashing ? Flip canceling has been the key to better recoveries and better car control in general for me, as it allows you to make your car move and recover from flips in any situation ! Also, I don't know if it's a mechanic, but I would have added 50s, and put it pretty high on the list ! Thanks !
@Bucko99
@Bucko99 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@Thanovic
@Thanovic Жыл бұрын
If I added 50s I would have definitely put them high on the list, I just forgot about them unfortunately, that’s on me! And you might be right on the flip cancelling, I just use the little chain dashes a bit more than I find flip cancelling useful
@TheDevil69270
@TheDevil69270 Жыл бұрын
​@@Thanovic I understand, I think we all get more into certain mechanics than others. I tend to flip cancel too much, pretty much on every flip now since I saw the MENA guys pretty much speed flipping on every hit for better recoveries, and that is not a good habit at my level haha Also, I'd love a chain dash tutorial from you. I know there are hundreds out there, but I can't seem to find any that are well explained to me ! At this point I only trust you, you're a great pedagog
@hoon-kay4840
@hoon-kay4840 Жыл бұрын
For me, I use a flip cancel whenever I do a half flip instead of using the diagonal half flip. It was easier for me to learn and get consistent, I feel like flip canceling should be a few spots higher up on the list. Also, if low 50/50s were on the list, they would definitely be 15-5, yes they are a 50/50 which is a really important part of the game aka 1-5, but low 50s are an extra step that is basically the brother of a basic dribble that is going towards the goaline. If you make a follow up to this video, definitely include them as they can be the reason you win in a game. Also this might just be nickpicking basic 50/50s however I thought I'd mention it anyways.
@Bmboo_
@Bmboo_ Жыл бұрын
Diagonal half flip still requires a flip cancel, but idk anyone who uses that half flip, as cancelling a back flip and then air rolling is just more consistant.
@Trik_mxh
@Trik_mxh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including my clips at 0:40 and 7:27 !!!
@Kyle_Sha
@Kyle_Sha Жыл бұрын
Hard to watch ❌ Hard while watching ✅
@lyricsaintpaulin
@lyricsaintpaulin Жыл бұрын
Bro what
@Izaya_way_better
@Izaya_way_better Жыл бұрын
Yoo
@johannes_vwa
@johannes_vwa Жыл бұрын
Yt comments are so behind lmao
@quotascript
@quotascript Жыл бұрын
I can get behind this❗️🔛🔝
@Vikkaz
@Vikkaz Жыл бұрын
Same bro...
@grayuhh
@grayuhh Жыл бұрын
honestly its probably for the best that you didn't include zap dashes as a mech in the vid or any other variation of other mechanics other than wall dashes. Zap dashes are really just a modified wave dash which can be useful but timing has to very precise and can be difficult for some players to learn. Also I do genuinely believe flip resets should be higher on the list only because of the diversity that can be used with it, such as taking it up for an air dribble and getting a flip to beat the last defender or using it when going for a 50/50 in the air to get a better recovery, but other than these smaller things I do appreciate that you put shooting in the first spot as its a mechanic that I've seen players not being very good at and even some pros saying that they regret not working on their shooting more. Anyways I love the content as usual keep up the good work!!
@Matteroll
@Matteroll Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you’re right about zap dashes there. In terms of just ranking up, you don’t need to learn it at all. But I just want to add that some pros have found it to be really useful. AppJack has said a couple of times that he thinks it’s really useful to get a burst of speed after recovering and he has used it quite a lot in RLCS. I’ve also seen Retals incorporate it into his gameplay even at the recent spring major.
@grayuhh
@grayuhh Жыл бұрын
@@Matteroll oh ofc, but pros incorporate mechanics into their game a lot more than the everyday ranked grinder. I think zap dashes are good as something extra to learn if you really wanted to learn them like it wouldn't hurt to learn them but isn't needed to rank up.
@bendaniels9455
@bendaniels9455 Жыл бұрын
Learning to redirect efficiently is easily a top 10 mechanic
@Bloo_M
@Bloo_M Жыл бұрын
in higher ranks, yes. when players have better game sense, know how to pass forward and rotate, it makes sense. In lower ranks it usually means you overcomitted and are too far up field and should not expect a pass.
@connorallan8080
@connorallan8080 Жыл бұрын
Air dribble has to be higher up simply for the fact that it allows you to more effectively use any other aerial mechanic
@JXLY7
@JXLY7 Жыл бұрын
Mom get the camera! Thanovic used my clips!!! Great video dude, good job showcasing the vast majority of essential mechanics. It doesn’t matter if people disagree on the order or if something is missing, the points you make still stand true.
@AntNeedsBoost
@AntNeedsBoost Жыл бұрын
I love this, what’s crazy is I feel like you can tell Than is a 2s/3s main just from the tier list and I think that’s wild
@Thanovic
@Thanovic Жыл бұрын
You actually can aye 😂 I haven’t played 1s in 3 or 4 seasons now
@AntNeedsBoost
@AntNeedsBoost Жыл бұрын
@@Thanovic yeah I play a lot of ones and there was a few near the top (bounce dribbles mainly) where I was like, “yeah I think they should go higher because I play a lot of 1s”😂 but definitely a good list
@mrhuman5447
@mrhuman5447 Жыл бұрын
Never fails to improve my game no matter what. Keep it up Ethan!
@trxse-tc7rw
@trxse-tc7rw Жыл бұрын
His name is Ethan?!
@ryanvanderwinden6748
@ryanvanderwinden6748 Жыл бұрын
I would say air dribble should be way higher since it improves your close ball control and first touches should be added as a mechanic
@grandoli1059
@grandoli1059 Жыл бұрын
Only thing I disagree is learning backboard saves "the earlier the better". That will only lead low ranked players to go backboard instead of backpost all the time and mess up from there anyways. You dont even have to defend doubletaps and air dribbles below champ because they mess up so often in these ranks that you get more than enough open nets from it that you can compensate the few goals they actually score this way easily. And some of the basic mechs are missing like some comments say, but great list anyways and well explained!
@jamesgillispie-vc2dc
@jamesgillispie-vc2dc Жыл бұрын
This is right along the lines of aircharged program he has on yt. Drastically underrated creator just like thanovic. I learned a huge thing im doing wrong just from this vid 😂❤
@freychet6943
@freychet6943 Жыл бұрын
love the video thanovic! thanks for including a couple of my clips ;)
@Snail678
@Snail678 Жыл бұрын
As a new/bad player, anytime I see an opponent air dribble I know immediately we are going to lose. It seems like the most obvious "there is a skill gap" mechanic. I've been in gold games where a smurf air dribbled like 6 goals in a row and the final score was like 12-1. Perhaps at higher elos it cancels out due to everyone having better air control, but there is something to be said about its effectiveness in low elo. It makes it hard to even get a touch in lol. I would say its slightly underrated but I am full biased as someone with bad air control 😅
@sinewybug8415
@sinewybug8415 Жыл бұрын
yeah its just control and understanding of the game. if someone is able to air dribble theyll likely have much better control of the car
@BAaijLANCE
@BAaijLANCE Жыл бұрын
Video idea?: most easily and fastest way how to change control bindings (Really need this) 😅
@Thanovic
@Thanovic Жыл бұрын
If you mean getting used to new settings, it’s just about repetition. The more you do, the more you get used to
@trxvel_
@trxvel_ Жыл бұрын
double jump is very underrated in lower ranks tbh
@LukeRig
@LukeRig Жыл бұрын
I’m mid gc1 and I can’t flip reset, ceiling shot, and can air dribble maybe 20% of the time 😅
@Lcsfld
@Lcsfld Жыл бұрын
Arnos, u went crazy with this one. Props my guy
@ChuckTheDuck434
@ChuckTheDuck434 Жыл бұрын
Editor needs a raise 🔥
@pxsucksatrl
@pxsucksatrl Жыл бұрын
I would say bounce dribbles are only really super useful in the low ranks like bronze to diamond because the players dont know how to deal with them but they can be easily by higher ranks because you just leave to much space between you and the ball where the enemy can clear it away and they are becoming really predictable.
@blazekproductions6525
@blazekproductions6525 Жыл бұрын
Watch peak oKhalid 1v1 games. Definitely useful in high ranks. Maybe not as much in 2s or 3s but for sure in 1v1
@zuluzen
@zuluzen Жыл бұрын
10:46 when I was in gold nobody knew how to aerial, and as a plat people do hit aerials but they barely go and when they do hit it it’s basically a pass to the other team lol
@acherryswitch
@acherryswitch Жыл бұрын
I don't exactly agree with everything on the list, of course shooting and dribbling and air roll, are the three most important mechs, BUT I would place half flips, airdribbles, ceiling shots, and double taps higher up on the list, double taps are very useful in 1v1, same as half flips.
@ESGymNo2
@ESGymNo2 Жыл бұрын
Every single mechanics video ever. Fundamentals
@bmanjamin
@bmanjamin Жыл бұрын
how are wave dashes and half flips not 1 and 2
@Q8EDITZz
@Q8EDITZz Жыл бұрын
I agree on all of them this rlly helped Dont hate just cuz ur training something he didnt say
@WaaluigiBoard
@WaaluigiBoard Жыл бұрын
I knew as soon as I saw flip cancelling so low you would put speed flipping and half flipping higher on the list. Those require flip cancelling.
@Sp3dy-lv7pi
@Sp3dy-lv7pi 6 ай бұрын
Bounce dribbling is often better than dribbling on the car as it more often beats multiple defenders
@PocoLoco7474
@PocoLoco7474 Жыл бұрын
Ball control on air like air dribbling can be insanly useful, if you master air dribbles you can score from almost anywhere
@staraway9602
@staraway9602 Жыл бұрын
the most important mechanic is learning how to drive the car
@billkindig137
@billkindig137 Жыл бұрын
I knew that #1 would be shooting. Strongly agree.
@justinwatts-dinkelman4250
@justinwatts-dinkelman4250 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion i feel like being able to catch the ball should be next to dribbling but a little more important
@priyanshvyas3108
@priyanshvyas3108 Жыл бұрын
ceiling shots should be higher up the list and pinch should be lower if compared to air dribble (completely my opinion)
@WaterLemon147
@WaterLemon147 Жыл бұрын
I would say your biggest threat in plat and diamond while dribbling isn’t the opponent but your own teammate thinking you might be passing to them or just not knowing what your doing
@Fastissmooth
@Fastissmooth Жыл бұрын
These kind of lists are always subjective but flicks being above powerslide is something I just cant buy at all. Playing a game without flicking the ball once would be okay. But try playing without powersliding 🤷 Flicks and carrying the ball on top of your car is way too overrated. Bounce dribbling and powerslide cutting is much more effective and also safer.
@hiowgobodayday6370
@hiowgobodayday6370 Жыл бұрын
Ground passing can catch the defender off guard and is deadly when you perfect it
@pappasimpson
@pappasimpson Жыл бұрын
the doomsee dish is prolly in my top 5s
@VskutkuTrigen
@VskutkuTrigen Жыл бұрын
the issue with flip resets is that its really pretty much peak... its usefull but its hard... and this video is for plebs not for people with 4k hours in the game.... to do a flip reset u have to have very very good car control... u have to go to ball with "Ego" or u will just bounce off of it.
@Yute01
@Yute01 Жыл бұрын
Eh, I taught a few of my friends with around 2k hrs, and they now use it frequently. Not a peak mechanic at all. Peak mechanics are things like Jakze resets and beautiful mustys 😂
@ConradCarner-uo1nr
@ConradCarner-uo1nr Жыл бұрын
How can you forget about saves, fakes demos, bumps, passes dribling. But great list.👍🏻
@GOOFYYTIGGY
@GOOFYYTIGGY Жыл бұрын
just here to say this is a great video keep up the good work than
@NorthToAntarctica
@NorthToAntarctica Жыл бұрын
I would say boost management/ boost rotations are top 10
@Erwan_DL
@Erwan_DL Жыл бұрын
I would have probably added Saves in there!
@chrisscales2435
@chrisscales2435 Жыл бұрын
A bad habit I created is constant air roll I’m now getting out of it slowly and now I’m getting close to hitting champ
@ProfessorThock
@ProfessorThock Жыл бұрын
I think you should make another version of this in order of what you should learn first. Some of the more important mechanics you listed like flip resets are really only achievable once you have the “less” important mechanic of air dribbling, so to say air dribbling is less important is a bit weird to hear. It makes it seem like you should work on flip resets before learning to air dribble which I guess would be possible but pretty unorthodox
@skiwi_i
@skiwi_i Жыл бұрын
i feel like 50/50s should be counted on this list. 50s are in my opinion one of the most underrated mechanics and if you're good at them its a really easy way to outplay opponents even with no boost.
@zahvy
@zahvy Жыл бұрын
The most important mechanic is learning with the intent to teach
@Swift_Ikarus
@Swift_Ikarus Жыл бұрын
I think some of your takes were fair and i could understand. But i definitely question flip canceling being so low along with breezi/musty having their own things when really they just a type of flick that can be useful for certain situations. Plus freestyle mechs being 31 is kinda sad to me because (i could be biased as a CCH) freestyle/harder to learn mechs are probably the most underrated thing for comp. No one expects anybody to randomly pull out a full field double musty (specifically with that shot, you have so many options). You can fake the first musty if they read you going for it again, you can get a high musty to get it over someone, you can get the 2nd musty to go backboard or over someone else and leave for teammates, ect. freestyle mechs just get trashed on for being hard and "pointless" when you "can" do something else but that something else can be easier to read. So if you practice freestyle mechs for comp, you just have a unmatched ability to be creative with your shots and be unpredictable. At a minimum you at least get a better understanding of your car.
@Marcus-le_créateur
@Marcus-le_créateur 4 ай бұрын
Bro the penta heli reset tripple musty double touch is a lot more importamt cause,cause...its very impressive...and yeah your opponent gonna instant forfeit...
@Gimmy27
@Gimmy27 Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭 Thanovic out here encouraging everyone to use airdibble bumps
@turnatablefroglegbiscuit3533
@turnatablefroglegbiscuit3533 Жыл бұрын
immediately thought of spookluke when you said redirects lmao
@brutalctg7654
@brutalctg7654 Жыл бұрын
I personally think the off post turtle air dribble musty quad backboard reset into 360 maktuf reset is very competitively viable and hard to read but I respect the opinion 🙄
@t0ast647
@t0ast647 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out… driving
@JonkRL
@JonkRL Жыл бұрын
Coach Jonk Approves 😎
@Squirtle-445
@Squirtle-445 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Yerocco
@Yerocco Жыл бұрын
As a diamond, I’m the absolute best player ever at missing open nets. Can’t believe that mechanic/skill wasn’t included.
@Neaugy
@Neaugy Жыл бұрын
50/50s is probably the only mechanic I pride myself on. 50/50s happen countless times in every game you’ll ever play and they 100% win games.
@Joeytjee
@Joeytjee Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the placement of airdribbles. Im gc2 but i almost score an airdribble each game because people still find them hard to defend.
@ZarianPalma
@ZarianPalma Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on why you shouldn’t need a coaching program to rank up?
@RaylinDavis-c7e
@RaylinDavis-c7e Жыл бұрын
I disagree with all of this so I shouldn’t learn air dribble??
@kangwakowa8370
@kangwakowa8370 Жыл бұрын
I recommend Thanovic!
@SammichLS
@SammichLS Жыл бұрын
Air dribbles need to be higher than flip resets because flip resets are dependent on knowing air dribbles
@chs5321
@chs5321 Жыл бұрын
Great video very poggers info
@jam8munch811
@jam8munch811 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised driving wasn't number 1 on this list!
@Boca8683
@Boca8683 Жыл бұрын
Breezie above sidewal redirects idk about that one
@greasy_waffles9446
@greasy_waffles9446 Жыл бұрын
#1 has gotta be phyco’s
@jamster251
@jamster251 Жыл бұрын
Good list :) But Only one team-based mechanic in a 3 v 3 game? That seems not right.
@SnowtimeRL
@SnowtimeRL Жыл бұрын
I ran into alphakep in 1v1, he won 5-2, but I scored a nice air dribble bump on him
@Jrockusc
@Jrockusc Жыл бұрын
After watching zen, I’d say chaining wavedashes could move up this list ALOT in a few years. Idk though, I’m a season 14 GC who has awful mechanics 😂😂
@bradybrady1
@bradybrady1 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Thanks you
@Kookie_TV
@Kookie_TV Жыл бұрын
When putting pogos so low, you really have to define what you mean. While the freestyle pogo is utter garbage, wall pogos and crossbar dashes are extremely useful if you can get them consistent.
@BrightFameOak
@BrightFameOak Жыл бұрын
I know you included aerials, but Fast Aerials should have been on the list.
@fizzosoda
@fizzosoda Жыл бұрын
Me who submitted a curve dash 😐
@cedi2929
@cedi2929 Жыл бұрын
Boost Management on 1 fo sho
@ericblack8154
@ericblack8154 Жыл бұрын
Plats watching this video: “ He didn’t mention passing! See! I don’t have to give the ball to anyone!!!”
@sjort8605
@sjort8605 Жыл бұрын
preflips should be on this list
@zitabalklava1103
@zitabalklava1103 Жыл бұрын
My no1 would be defence because if u can save everything your opponents can't score and will eventually over commit giving u a free goal
@jamster251
@jamster251 Жыл бұрын
'Invincibilty lies in defence. Possibilty of victory in attack.'
@monkeking_2144
@monkeking_2144 Жыл бұрын
I think you should factor in the amount of time needed to learn the mechs because a lot of people that watch your channel aren’t even champ, and if they see that flip resets might be a good option for offense they are most likely going to attempt learning them.
@Thanovic
@Thanovic Жыл бұрын
Someone pulled out a stat recently that something like 70% of my viewers ares champ. I’ve also asked a few times and majority are champ. But yeah that’s a good point
@monkeking_2144
@monkeking_2144 Жыл бұрын
Also I’m plat and I can do a decent bounce dribble. For low ranked player in at least high plat, bounce dribbles are top 10
@monkeking_2144
@monkeking_2144 Жыл бұрын
@@Thanovic oh well my bad. I knew it would be a good amount but not by that much.
@psydunk1
@psydunk1 Жыл бұрын
Thumbmail reminded me of the SpookLuke disaster tip 💀💀
@Aboodkh_1
@Aboodkh_1 Жыл бұрын
The montag got me lol
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot Жыл бұрын
I love a nice pinch
@YourMMRMMRboy
@YourMMRMMRboy Жыл бұрын
W editor
@Nizzuツ
@Nizzuツ Жыл бұрын
Are preflips a freestyle mechanic? Because they can be useful in many situations
@George-li1yv
@George-li1yv Жыл бұрын
One fundamental thing I think you missed is 50/50s. I'd put 50s top 3 easily
@Cookies_1900
@Cookies_1900 Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@djniggobischoff9004
@djniggobischoff9004 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't consider rotation a mechanic. And bounce dribbling should be way higher on the list, bounce dribbles are better than dribbling/flicks if done correctly in my opinion
@jake.5877
@jake.5877 Жыл бұрын
btw that clip at the start from "jakze" isn't jakze idk who that is but it wasn't him lol was wondering why it was so bad relative to how good jakze is... as he would never clip something like that lmao
@JoseTrovoes92
@JoseTrovoes92 Жыл бұрын
Disagree with some, air dribble and flip canceling while not being op mechanics are the core to other mechanics, i dont think you can speed flip or flip reset without being able to flip cancel or air dribble...so i would argue those are more important mechanics to learn.
@ImMeech
@ImMeech Жыл бұрын
If you can add 50-50s as a mechanic where would it go?
@naidnen
@naidnen Жыл бұрын
This is good
@drivvs
@drivvs Жыл бұрын
We need a car design vid
@ahmedhammad6-k9l
@ahmedhammad6-k9l Жыл бұрын
I think it's acknowledging the existence of a teammate to pass to.
@reed6514
@reed6514 Жыл бұрын
I like the list, but not everyone needs to train. It's a game, have fun. If you like training, train. If you like to just play, just play
@Darktega
@Darktega Жыл бұрын
I love the concept of the video, but I think at this point we should call them “skills” instead of mechanics 😅
@qbound7399
@qbound7399 Жыл бұрын
You missed Passing on the list
@brutalctg7654
@brutalctg7654 Жыл бұрын
Don't think that is a mechanic but more strategy ig. Passing is technically just hitting the ball right
@qbound7399
@qbound7399 Жыл бұрын
@@brutalctg7654 Everything is just hitting the ball right 😂
@Sethwxrld
@Sethwxrld Жыл бұрын
the speed flip 100%
@Mizu4k
@Mizu4k Жыл бұрын
its flicks or passes or just ur understanding of how to hit the ball and read it
@ScholarsRoot
@ScholarsRoot Жыл бұрын
Can I edit you a montage I am a professional editor
@Heboyplays
@Heboyplays Жыл бұрын
So for 17 air dribble bumps if you can get good at them they get you a guaranteed goal but you put it 17th😂
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