That Doctor Who Cartoon You Forgot Existed

[@HarboWholmes]

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[@Scampi141]

Have you listened to the river song and the 10th doctor adventures?

[@vanimapermai]

Was there not 3 cartoon this one another one then dream land

[@christopheralthouse6378]

A correction is needed, along with some information left out from this review. First, I've forgotten what company you claim animated this story, however, the ACTUAL name of the animator for "Scream of the Shalka" and the two missing episodes of 2nd Doctor story "The Invasion" was Cosgrove Hall...NOT whatever company you credited and considering the similarity of style I would suspect you miscredited it here as well. And that leads to this next bit...there's a REASON that you don't see this level of quality in any of the other missing episode animations. Cosgrove Hall does excellent animation work, that is DEFINITELY true and if you watch the animated recons of Episodes 1 and 4 of "The Invasion" you'll see that play out as well. However...they're also a highly expensive studio to use which also explains why their contributions have been so limited. The BBC just simply could not afford their services for anything beyond either short-segment productions like "Scream of the Shalka" and "Infinite Quest" or animated recons with two or fewer episodes like "The Invasion". Any projects beyond that scale were simply unfeasible, which is why they had to search around for cheaper animation studios which could turn out these larger projects albeit with a drop in quality. It's really a double-edged sword where you kinda have to weigh the pros and cons and decide what you would rather have. With the cheaper studios, the BBC is now able to turn out animated recons of entirely missing serials like "Power of the Daleks" which thus makes these stories accessible by fans like myself who love old Who but don't like the lack of visual context that exists in telesnap recons, however, this also means a noticeable drop in animation quality which leads to stiffer movements from characters and sometimes even a lack of depth within each frame making it not as visually pleasant to watch. However, if the BBC had stuck with Cosgrove Hall, we would have much better quality animated recons at the cost of significantly FEWER missing episodes able to be animated...and completely missing serials like the aforementioned "Power of the Daleks" would've likely NEVER received this treatment. It all comes down to cost in the end and, IMHO, I'll take the loss of quality in favor of being able to see MORE missing episodes animated any day of the week...the chance to watch what I call "New-Old Who" is indeed quite the treat, even IF the animation that brought me that treat is a bit dodgy...

[@Gengu]

I remember watching this on CBBC back in the day

[@muqtarali34]

Same

[@gota7738]

I remember this but I totally forgot it came with Totally Doctor Who.

[@Round2Fight]

I remember it as well

[@mzap10]

I miss the good old times…

[@sonicthecheese6467]

ok i dont remember this at all, but that robot bird has unlocked some hidden memories so i must have watched this as a kid

[@spongemaster]

Same here. I vaguely remember the art style and the robot bird but I'd forgotten basically everything else about it.

[@AdamH7]

Nah I never seen it or knew this existed, weird. Don't recognise the bird either other than it reminding me of Transformers Dark of The Moon which came out after.

[@md-vq8sp]

Same. All I recognise is the bird and I don't remember watching the cartoon or the TV show

[@AnglicanFish]

Finding any kind of alternative Doctor Who content here in the states is still harder than the wall Twelfth Doctor had to punch through

[@Zee-yj8og]

that’s extra painful coming from 11 himself 😩

[@natsmith303]

This is included in The Animation Collection along with Scream of the Shalka, Power of the Daleks, and Shada. Also fun fact: the official chronology places this between 42 and Human Nature.

[@mrsscreamgirl5332]

Thank you so much, finally something that's available where I live. After all this time I can now watch Scream of the Shalka

[@keren.b_9642]

okay but why is martha's eyes changing every two seconds

[@Domisbeast]

Omg I've just seen that 🤣🤣🤣

[@claudius3359]

Literally why I didn't continue watching this when I first find it,every character morphs weirdly instead of properly moving

[@Tulf42]

I am glad animation in Doctor Who is still experimenting to this day. Not only recreating the lost episodes but also telling new stories that never make it to a live action episode, from the Infinite Quest and Dreamland to The Adventure Games, The Edge of Time and the recent Dalek stories for the Time Lord Victorious series. It makes me wonder if we could get Series 0 in animation at the very least if it never gets passed by the BBC, or a visual interpretation of some Big Finish stories...

[@faealbahrani8821]

Are there still animated doctor who series or episodes? And are they worth watching? And where can I find and watch it?

[@Tulf42]

@@faealbahrani8821 Other than The Infinite Quest, there's Dreamland (a 10th Doctor story in low budget 3D CGI animation), the reanimated Classic Who stories from lost episodes in the BBC archives, the Richard E Grant's 9th Doctor story, "Scream of the Shalka", the recent CGI Dalek stories on KZbin for the Time Lord Victorious series, and possibly more. I'm sure there's a list on the internet with all of the mentioned above and any I've missed. You'll find any of these will be on DVD/Blu-Ray/Steelbook collections, or an online streaming website. I'd say give them a go for various reasons.

[@faealbahrani8821]

@@Tulf42 oh great, thanx for the info, cheers.

[@everettrailfan]

Last time I was this early, we were pissed about how the Doctor sneezed into a gray-haired Scotsman.

[@mv9370]

Still pissed about that, why couldn't it just be a normal regeneration Moffat, ffs

[@Scampi141]

True but Capaldi is still epic

[@-haclong2366]

@@mv9370 To be fair it's better than the over-the-top explosive regenerations from the Davies period, though Moffat ended it that way. To be fair, the Davies era regenerations make sense being so explosive.

[@MrAlienkiller]

He did have an explosive regeneration though, I just don't think Moffat wanted it to happen in the Tardis so he could get rid of the daleks and still have a sweet goodbye in the Tardis

[@taladavidson5400]

and i still find it hilarious to this day. the capaldi jump scare regeneration is my favourite genuinely

[@horatioal-saadi5021]

HOW DARE YOU HOW DARE YOU SAY I FORGOT THIS. I watch this every goddamn night i feel upset and it makes me so happy. Shame on you Harbo

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

I definitely remember seeing at least some of this as a kid. But the only part that stuck in my mind was the prison episode actually. "It's the only way-bzzt It's the only way-bzzt..." become a saying in our house.

[@RassilonProductions]

Honestly I love this bit of Doctor who history and it was a big part of my childhood, I love the concepts behind it and think it still looks good

[@CineScarborough]

I love The Infinite Quest! I have such fond memories of watching it as a kid, and still have the DVD. Fantastic animation.

[@danking9936]

Why did you think I forgot this existed? Who the heck forgot this existed?!?

[@eagleclaw899]

I remember this thing! I also remember enjoying one with a slightly different animation style that was called "Dreamland" and had bug/locust type war based insects trying to attack Area 51. Oh and there were 2 Roswell little green men who had like mass genocide weapons to use against the bugs. Episode's also set in the 1950s! Men in Black suits too!

[@apanapandottir205]

10:08 The Red Dwarf Episode Justice would like a word haha

[@emperorleachicus2199]

I don’t remember this animation, but I do remember the equally obscure 10th Doctor animation “Dreamland” coming on at some point on CBBC.

[@taladavidson5400]

this cartoon is one of my earliest who memories! i wasn’t even a proper fan yet, but i vaguely remember enjoying these as a kid. think it was on a re-run on CBBC, and i mainly remember the lil robot parrot thing.

[@ItsMeHarry]

I remember watching this each time I was bored and saw it was on CBBC, honestly even if fairly average the quality of the animations at times has always stood out to me

[@JoesAnimationHub]

A better way to describe this was if "The Key to Time" saga had the Space Pirate and his robot parrot from "The Pirate Planet" and not that cosmic hobo with ideas above his own station we know as "The Black Guardian" as the overarching villain. I actually get a very "Douglas Adams" vibe over "The Infinite Quest", I remembered it so fondly when I was in Secondary School, I always wanted a second miniseries with Donna when they did a second run of "Totally Doctor Who" focussing on series 4.

[@kit9638]

Personally I remember watching this as it aired and it was one of my favourite stories at the time. Even looking back now I try to keep in mind it was wholly written for younger viewers and imo it succeeded completely. The designs translated what was needed well without having to push onto children the horrors of war, capitalism etc. I also really enjoyed the prison segment but i've always been a fan of the 'patients have taken over the asylum' trope so that probably helped.

[@pippyharrison9745]

I didn’t even remember this show existed, yet just from the thumbnail I got vivid flashbacks from my childhood. I should rewatch this.

[@ddharveyy]

I swear there was also a 3D animated one about area 51

[@melvinz1238]

Dreamland

[@Toadyzoe]

I thought the fact that the doctor found himself guilty in the prison planet story was interesting since Red Dwarf have an episode based on exactly that concept! Wonder if it was drawn from there

[@Oscilation123]

Wow this is a memory that was locked away extremely deep. Brought it all back as soon as I saw the metal bird

[@jvblhc]

It's a fun little 20 minute cartoon story. I'm okay with that being all that it is.

[@rikudoubapeck]

It's 45 minutes. The length of an actual full episode

[@jvblhc]

@@rikudoubapeck My bad. I only watched it once so I didn't remember how long it was. Still think is a fun little bit of Doctor Who fluff.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Wait, was that Anthony Head at the end? He sure is good at playing Tennant era antagonists

[@N4N0Recon]

"Forgot" me and my manager was literally talking this the other day

[@Domisbeast]

The only Animation I remember is dreamland. I remember there was one day where CBBC showed it on loop the ENTIRE day

[@The_D0C70R]

Is that the CGI animation with Area 51?

[@Domisbeast]

@@The_D0C70R correctamundo!... A word I have never used before and hopefully never will again

[@evr4699]

@Domisbeast that sounds awful

[@GreekDoctorWho]

A few weeks down the line, "The Forgotten 2009 10th Doctor Special"

[@keelanbarron928]

Which one is that?

[@GreekDoctorWho]

@@keelanbarron928 Dreamland

[@keelanbarron928]

@@GreekDoctorWho thanks.

[@keskonriks710]

I didn't forget this existed. I never knew about it at all before this video

[@ironnoah9461]

I'm considering salvaging the scenerios used in The Infinite Quest for separate stories in the future, particularly the second one.

[@AstoriaMind]

Didn't know about this, thanks for covering. Even with all the issues regarding this adaptation you've covered, I admit that I'm appreciating the clean animation style. Think I might have happily watched this back then😊

[@Channel-ro3cr]

I remember there was another animation one that was on the internet like ages ago that’s gone now but all I remember is it was like in a desert

[@adamdolphin9897]

I remember there was a David tenant animated doctor who movie in a similar style to this but I can’t right remember what it was about I you remember could you make a video on it

[@dempsy40]

Dreamland. Would love to see a video focused on it too.

[@Venemofthe888]

dreamland looks better than this. I suppose if its canon you could put it in the time between series 4 finale and the start of the specials

[@brianbks02]

Had this on DVD, absolutely loved it when I was younger! 🤩

[@toast99bubbles]

I loved watching Totally Doctor Who as a child and would instantly buy a DVD or blu ray release. It's odd that it often gets forgotten when people talk of Who spin-offs, due to Torchwood being claimed as the first to get a series, but this came before Torchwood. Although you could then mention Doctor Who Confidential beating TDW (TDW was more a spin-off of DWC than of Who itself).

[@isaacwright8211]

I swear this was on netflix years ago, I only remember it vaguely and I was quite young so it's hard to remember

[@dawnwayfinder]

Sadly, I never got to see "Infinite Quest", but I definitely know "Dreamland" was on Netflix some years back. Could that be the one you're thinking of?

[@MrDarthT]

I've been thinking for a while that animation is the direction that productions should start moving towards. Live action seems to have so many more limitations, especially during the current situation.

[@intergalactic92]

It is what it is. A collection of very short adventures that then got compiled into a 40ish minute omnibus adventure. It’s fun for what it is, there is some interesting lore, a great villain and some interesting twists and turns throughout. It’s never going to stand up against a full episode because of the lack of depth in each segment, but I still enjoy it nonetheless.

[@themrextra5238]

What about the other animated Dr Who Tennant era special Dreamland?

[@gavinholt5428]

We have it collected together and watch it annually. We watch the entire series annually - Hartnell out and it takes longer and longer but we love it. (including all animations and charity eps). Generally followed with Torchwood and Sarah Jane Chronicles

[@amyshaw893]

Oh hey, the resurrection casket. I remember back in the day, the radio times gave away CD audiobook versions of some of the stories in that series. I had the resurrection casket, the stone rose and... another one. I forget what it was called, but it had people turning into fishy aliens because of something in the water of the Thames. I listened to them a load, and I can still remember some of the lines. "Death, destruction, devestation, lot of d words really. Bit of a disaster" Edit: Feast of the Drowned!

[@elliot1111]

Hey would you also consider reviewing dreamland? Quite an interesting tenant story on Cbbc

[@isaacoftheraine3985]

wasn’t there another animated one with 3D animation and they rescue an alien..?

[@Albrett]

Yes, the 6(?) part animation series called dreamland set in/ around area 51

[@theredstonebuilder1120]

I loved that when I was young

[@Timmymantwo]

Squawk was my favourite bit of The Infinite Quest

[@MoskHotel]

I still remember watching the animations on CBBC. It’s still fun to watch.

[@seanfowler1374]

You’ve unlocked memories I didn’t even know I forgot

[@WhinyWortex]

The prison planet episode sounds very reminiscent of an episode of red dwarf where the cast visit a prison planet and rimmer gets imprisoned after a mind scan shows he has guilt for accidentally killing the crew after a failed repair job. It may be an interesting watch for you.

[@Megafreakx3]

At first I thought this was Dreamland for a second but apparently I was wrong

[@safebox36]

I knew about this one. The true forgotten one is the 10th Doctor Dreamland animation. Just awful quality.

[@tardistrailers]

You're talking about that overlength PS2 cutscene?

[@dawnwayfinder]

And the dialogue being spoken at lightspeed;, leaving no pause for gravitas or tension.

[@CineScarborough]

The animation of that was like somebody had thrown up over the computer keyboard.

[@Owen_005]

@@tardistrailers more like N64. Even the PS2 can do better (Kingdom hearts, Final fantasy 10, Metal gear 2 and 3............) but yh Dreamland's animation was crap.

[@Diamondlad]

Guys if you though this was wilding wait till you hear about Dreamland

[@drewnorbury8718]

Dreamland is the only one out the two I remember more about

[@readhistory2023]

I have the DVD. You're right the story is under developed but compared to Jodie's Doctor this is Academy Award winning.

[@tidmouthmilk12]

13:05 Oh shit! The Doctor's a blank from the World's End!

[@ionlydressthatway]

I remember watching totally doctor who but I have absolutely no memory of this cartoon so I guess the title is spot on

[@bluewolf194]

I remember there was also a set of them set in the desert in the US in the 50s, I think it was based around Roswell Incident .

[@spongemaster]

I seem to remember this too, where they were in some sort of diner right? Strangely I can't find anything about it but remember seeing it, especially because they later did that same setting in Series 6.

[@starhound45]

Y'all talking about Dreamland. That was done around the Tennant specials in 2009.

[@spongemaster]

@@starhound45 I looked it up and it seems that is what I'm thinking of. My brain remembered the animation being more like this one rather than CGI but perhaps I'm just mixing up my memories of these two animated episodes.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

I do remember it, but my main memory is a clip of David and Freema in the sound booth, recording for the animation.

[@AlexRooneyComposer]

I've got the DVD of this somewhere. Had it since 08-09. Haven't watched it in for ever. Seem to remember it being alright.

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

Watching it doesn't feel like infinity.

[@drwfigureadventures]

Hmm.. a live action episode with Balthazar as the villain, with flashbacks to this using live-action recreations (bringing back Tennant and Head at least?)

[@Abbojnr]

What was that other animated movie, where The Doctor lands near Area 51 and finds a couple of the Roswell Greys?

[@zigzagzoom369]

I forgot about 'Totally Doctor Who'! In my head I think I combined The Doctor eroding a pirate ship with a spoon and them giving Martha a special toothbrush in 'The Shakespeare Code' because I could have sworn that in this The Doctor destroys the ship with a toothbrush he gave Martha. I guess I assumed the ship was made out of evil plaque or something rather than fungi?

[@JimAlgar]

I knew about the animation, had no idea about this "Totally Doctor Who" show though :D

[@nifralo2752]

The thing I most remmber about Totally Doctor Who is when they made the Companion Academy kids walk blindfolded and barefoot over a mousetrap covered carpet

[@lukebisping1417]

I honestly didn't know this was an Obscure movie, since it came as a Bonus Feature when my Family bought the DVD of Shada, my Mom insisted of watching this first since she's the biggest fan of David Tennant out of our Family.

[@fadikhoory5350]

Doctor Who should return to CBBC, maybe have one, two or three episodes per season.

[@jrcbroolz]

I remember this. Wasn't there also another one they did with semi-3D animation about Roswell/Area 51?

[@fReAky4GoO]

Honestly loved this story , dealing it 3min chunks made it addictive and why it was worked at the time

[@micahschmitz859]

I was thinking of a different forgotten animated series

[@youngsimba124]

Omg I actually forgot about these I used too watch them in IT when I couldn’t be bothered

[@mattevans4377]

I'd love to see you do dreamland, even if it should have been a Matt Smith adventure....

[@monadoboy9639]

Damn I was randomly thinking about how much I loved these episodes as a kid I might have to give all of these a rewatch

[@Curelax]

I thought this was going to be about Dreamland!

[@starhound45]

Two seasons too earlier for that.

[@lazulenoc6863]

It was good enough for me. At least for a series mostly based off older Doctor Who content, it's not an hour long each. Even if there was that steam punk spider from wild wild west.

[@rahmodin9209]

I'd love to see your opinion of dreamland

[@SaltAsh303]

I remember this when it first aired, and even remember watching it in its complied form. Has stuck with me since- a lot of the character designs are really great and the story isn't too bad. I vaguely recall another similar animation at some point? Something to do with Area 51 or something like that.

[@Squicx]

This was my first Doctor Who dvd.

[@FaeChangeling]

I do vaguely remember this when I see it actually

[@AdamH7]

This definitely didn't air in Northern Ireland, never knew this existed

[@nightowl8477]

I loved it as a kid, very vivid images, always stuck with me.

[@dylancoles177]

This was my entry into doctor who

[@persephone3309]

Omg I remember thisssssssss thank you for talking about itttt

[@lucypreece7581]

I don't actively remember watching this show but i must have like glanced at it on the TV at some time or something. The animated thing i do remember better though was the one after series 4 which was Dreamland. somewhat kind of. I wasn't one for these. I dunno why they just didn't click with me. i think i just prefer the live action stuff.

[@frazzlesreviews5379]

I like and appreciate how much you refer to classic who in this video rather than just referring to how it is inferior to modern who. That being said Romana 2 is superior to Romana 1!!!

[@isobelhallam2482]

I vaguely remember the first 2 parts and the finale but not the prison planet part

[@wil2209]

I got the specials steelbook so thought eh why not and watched infinite quest and dreamland which I don’t think are to bad tbh, they’re good to entertain yaknow

[@CrispyPro]

I DID forget this existed... damn

[@TheZebbga]

What about Dreamworld, you gonna do a video on that? I think that exists because this was well recieved. Not 100% about that and I am not sure if it holds up but I definitly liked it as a kid. I have it on DVD.

[@planaterdslol6430]

i remeber that omg memories i have been looking for it forever omg

[@cameronmonaghan6883]

I actually prefer the Volag Noc segment the most. It's the least silly and it connects the rest of the segments and the lack of commentary kind of helps it focus on itself. But yeah it isn't utilized fully

[@Scampi141]

Would love to see a nuwho animated series ❤️

[@Victor-qn2eq]

Where can I watch it ?

[@lukeearle]

Will you be doing Dreamland next? I would argue it's more obscure given it was a red button exclusive initially. Thankfully, both animations are available on DVD.

[@PathsUnwritten]

How about those web-comics like "The Beast Is Back In Town"?

[@erinella]

What I always say about The Infinite Quest is thank God it doesn't look like the hellscape that was Dreamland. That animation nightmare still makes me uncomfortable.

[@mathieuleader8601]

I wish Time Lord Victorious would eloborate on the ancient spaceship the Infinite

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Sooo basically the "Infinite" is just the House of Cthulhu of Rheyleh?

[@jetshot2218]

Wow... someone else who remembers The Resurrection Casket

[@JojoTheVulture]

Martha's hair is very very spiky

[@DavidJones-em2ed]

Could you consider making a review on voyage of the damned?

[@rainbowrainbow4621]

i prety sure he his going to

[@fadikhoory5350]

Can you rank animations?