‘THAT’S FOOTBALL’ ⚽️ Jason Cundy HITS BACK At Netherlands Players Sulking Over The Penalty Decision

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24 күн бұрын

Jason Cundy believes England were rightly awarded a penalty in their 2-1 victory over Holland.
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@mrjesabi
@mrjesabi 22 күн бұрын
If this had have been other way round the geniuses on talksport wouldn't shut up about it for months. 😅😅
@Darrenski
@Darrenski 21 күн бұрын
It's happened to England for years. Right back to maradonna 86, and many more injustices since. I can tell you only have a 'last 10 years of football max' level of football history in your brain.
@zkwz1
@zkwz1 22 күн бұрын
Cant wait for the discussion if Spain get one on Sunday.
@billybatts8283
@billybatts8283 22 күн бұрын
They get one then they get one, so if we come to lose because of one penalty decision then we never did enough to win, like the Dutch.
@georgesalano5771
@georgesalano5771 22 күн бұрын
@zkwz1 Exactly,you will see how they will be calling all conspiracy theories......
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
Can we wait for you to cry if we get one again
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
@@georgesalano5771cry more
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
@@zkwz1 stop crying little man
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz 22 күн бұрын
Not a penalty because of saka handball!!!!
@bigwiz428
@bigwiz428 22 күн бұрын
Remember that lampard shot that cross the line that the ref didn't count against Germany in world cup
@keletsosebolai414
@keletsosebolai414 22 күн бұрын
There was no VAR or goal line technology then
@thomashopley2705
@thomashopley2705 22 күн бұрын
@@keletsosebolai414justice has no bias🥳
@keletsosebolai414
@keletsosebolai414 22 күн бұрын
@@thomashopley2705 Justice is coming Sunday
@user-es4br8zv7h
@user-es4br8zv7h 22 күн бұрын
@@keletsosebolai414If they lose, the reactions are going to be golden 😂
@generalpierogi7781
@generalpierogi7781 22 күн бұрын
remember how the ref robbed germany in 1966
@keletsosebolai414
@keletsosebolai414 22 күн бұрын
if Spain get a penalty like that keep the same energy don't sulk
@hughjanus3616
@hughjanus3616 22 күн бұрын
Englands “world class” players are about to get a schooling by a real team - and they know it.
@sithemperorpalpatine870
@sithemperorpalpatine870 22 күн бұрын
​@@hughjanus3616you've all been saying that since the Denmark game!
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 22 күн бұрын
When England lift the trophy please don't cry! 🤣🤣🤣
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
@@hughjanus3616you wouldn’t know what a real team is and you wouldn’t know football if it wasn’t for England😂
@lfcmonkeyyyman6229
@lfcmonkeyyyman6229 22 күн бұрын
​@@sithemperorpalpatine870 hardly been saying that with the dream draw they had.. they're now playing a team that has a real chance of beating them.. I'm English, but want Spain to win
@jonathanphillips5794
@jonathanphillips5794 22 күн бұрын
If someone punches the striker 10 seconds after his shot is that still a penalty?!?
@big_english8787
@big_english8787 22 күн бұрын
If it's in the box hell yes
@jonnyboy4749
@jonnyboy4749 22 күн бұрын
Standard in rugby lol proper game.
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 22 күн бұрын
​@@big_english8787no
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 22 күн бұрын
​@@big_english8787no ball in game. No pen but red card.
@BenjaminSam100
@BenjaminSam100 22 күн бұрын
Be fair.... If it was the other way round, England will sue the refs
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 22 күн бұрын
If it was the other way around it would be like every other tournament lmao.
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Can't sure then, but world complain
@Lifelongloser
@Lifelongloser 22 күн бұрын
I’d still be crying in my beer.
@Nocular
@Nocular 21 күн бұрын
When did we sue refs?
@user-dk6jb6hq9t
@user-dk6jb6hq9t 22 күн бұрын
If that penalty was given against England, we would be losing our minds
@johndowds5770
@johndowds5770 22 күн бұрын
Mate ,you haven't been allowed to launch yourself at anyone on a pitch with your studs up for 30 years ,he was lucky not to get a red card .
@AkimboTimbo
@AkimboTimbo 22 күн бұрын
@@johndowds5770you’re mad John 😂 the studs weren’t even towards Kane. Have a closer look. Also Sake made a handball just before the moment
@johndowds5770
@johndowds5770 22 күн бұрын
@@AkimboTimbo them lemons you're eating are bitter . By the way I'm Irish and have no dog in this fight .
@thepenguinmafia
@thepenguinmafia 21 күн бұрын
What is he on about? Koeman and the Dutch have been very magnanimous is defeat and I’ve so much respect for them.
@the-gang-of-wolves
@the-gang-of-wolves 22 күн бұрын
The most controversial thing was, the VAR decision explainer lady, immediatley came on air and in her American accent explained, it's no penalty
@gavinmillar461
@gavinmillar461 21 күн бұрын
@@the-gang-of-wolves she was completely correct though. 🤷
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz 22 күн бұрын
Ball hits Saka hand before kane shot. What is var for ? It cannot pick up obvious handball on screen replay
@vincenzoriccio5036
@vincenzoriccio5036 22 күн бұрын
I'm sure if it was the other way around, they would have a completely different attitude
@chrisroyle3564
@chrisroyle3564 22 күн бұрын
3 secs late would be the most blatant penalty ever 😂
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 22 күн бұрын
Never a pen
@bigerichunt9413
@bigerichunt9413 22 күн бұрын
Penalty or no penalty: It wasn't an obvious refereeing error. So he shouldn't have been called to the monitor.
@danh555
@danh555 22 күн бұрын
Definitely a penalty You can’t block with studs up. If that was out the box, it would be a foul and no one would say a thing
@CallumGTFC
@CallumGTFC 22 күн бұрын
​@alfieb6711 that makes it a foul? You've just argued against your own point, doesnt matter what his intention was if he's late he's late and that's a foul
@goonerjoe7647
@goonerjoe7647 22 күн бұрын
@@CallumGTFCnot enough contact to make it clear and obvious it’s not clear obvious
@asamanthinketh1937
@asamanthinketh1937 22 күн бұрын
If he goes to the monitor also show Saka’s handball right before 🤷🏻‍♂️ questionable penalty, hand ball by saka just before -> no penalty
@declanshanahan3888
@declanshanahan3888 22 күн бұрын
@@danh555 Yes you can block with stud up as long it isn't dangerous play. It's a soft pen and if being English and that had gone against us I'd be fuming. Saying that - we had one go our way for once
@renwynmedina1057
@renwynmedina1057 21 күн бұрын
SAKA hands the ball 5 seconds b4 the clash between Kane and Dumfriess how did Var not see this?
@adidasut11
@adidasut11 22 күн бұрын
Too many people in the comments section are asking the wrong question. It's not whether it's a penalty or no penalty. It's did Dumfries commit a foul? If that same type of play (and Kane is volleying a pass down the field) happens in the middle of the park and Dumfries catches him late, it's a foul every day of the week. And if it's a foul, then the ref has to call a penalty.
@M.Yigit1992
@M.Yigit1992 22 күн бұрын
They weren't this vocal when the referee helped them massively against Turkey
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 22 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@hus390
@hus390 22 күн бұрын
@@intenzityd3181 Not a penalty but Holland was awful and finished 3rd in their group. Turkey missed their key defender for a stupid ban.
@Chi3fFox
@Chi3fFox 22 күн бұрын
Who in the fking world would would deny a positive being in your favour? You think Messi told the referee he scored a goal using his hands? Or Ronaldo tells the referee he was offside? Be realistic kid
@danh555
@danh555 22 күн бұрын
@@hus390definitely a penalty Can’t have studs up block like that. Would be a foul anywhere else.
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 22 күн бұрын
Shot taken​ before clash. No penalty. Maybe a booking for dumfries. But his foul didn't effect kanes shot. @@danh555
@ancienttractorbuoy
@ancienttractorbuoy 21 күн бұрын
The defender realised that he was second to the ball. He didn't try to kick it but lifted his foot and presented the soul and studs to block Kane.
@lifeasewokchewie
@lifeasewokchewie 22 күн бұрын
What you be saying if it happened against England you would be crying
@KTopics
@KTopics 22 күн бұрын
We've had enough of our share of bad calls you will have to forgive us if we couldn't care less.
@mrjesabi
@mrjesabi 22 күн бұрын
We'd have listen to them whinge for 2 years.
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
Well it didn’t t ya plank
@lifeasewokchewie
@lifeasewokchewie 22 күн бұрын
@jamjam2833 What if it did you would be the first one crying like a little girl no that is the problem with var corruption
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
@@lifeasewokchewie like you are now😂
@rossdoonan6220
@rossdoonan6220 22 күн бұрын
Only the English fans think it was a penalty lol lol
@CarlosGambino_22
@CarlosGambino_22 22 күн бұрын
Stud's up penalty..
@AdamJohnsey
@AdamJohnsey 22 күн бұрын
Shame no one is talking about the handball that saka did before it went to harry kane. So shouldn't have been a penalty and never a penalty kane kicked his foot not Dumfries kicked kanes
@MikeyNottz
@MikeyNottz 22 күн бұрын
I’m English fan, but I’m also & More Importantly a fan of FOOTBALL, & even I’m saying, That Was NEVER A Penalty!! 💯
@Nocular
@Nocular 21 күн бұрын
And anyone who reads the rule book. Studs up- penalty. You're just letting Ur hate fog common sense. Ie... Ur thick
@gary-pd6jk
@gary-pd6jk 22 күн бұрын
It was never a penalty. But half the hand balls aren't penalties either.
@Chris-si4ox
@Chris-si4ox 22 күн бұрын
2024: its a penalty 2014: never a penalty that's the state of the modern game
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
​@@ClarenceBoddicker87that goal is what prompted fifa to get of their as, because rugby, cricket l, tennis all had tech for years but fifa refused cause they're cheap & corrupt. But there would've been riots of it ever happeneded again
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 22 күн бұрын
Never s pen
@leemccann88
@leemccann88 22 күн бұрын
What about the saka hand ball before kane kicks the ball.
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz 22 күн бұрын
Why are they not talking saka handball.???
@cboyz20
@cboyz20 22 күн бұрын
It wasn't like Dumfries just stuck his foot up to block the shot, his studs were up and his leg/foot was extending towards and thru Kane's foot.
@gavinmillar461
@gavinmillar461 22 күн бұрын
Yeah but imagine that decision happening to us I’d be heartbroken if they gave the Dutch a penalty for Kane kicking there man. It’s not a penalty no matter what happens. If we had went out to a penalty like that if we’d been 1,0 up and it went the other way I’d be furious. The defender has to attempt to block the shot he’s not late his studs are not showing it’s Kane who follows through and kicks Dumfries. I could only imagine the reaction if we’d have had that against us and told to suck it up. Our media would’ve crucified that referee as being corrupt as they had done already in the build up so can you imagine the reaction if we’d have been on the other side of that penalty. No danger that’s a pen in an any football game and for Cundy to say if it went the other way he’d still agree it was the right decision. Yeah so you would. They would’ve been going crazy over every media outlet saying the ref conned us.
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Thank you, finally someone is honest as well
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
I've said EXACTLY the same. If he disrupts the shooting, then it's a foul, it of he's really late, but it's only 2 frames. Is he supposed to let Harry on through like a servant bowing for a lord? Both players feet were high, so why did only 1 get the yellow
@gavinmillar461
@gavinmillar461 22 күн бұрын
@@kurtsudheim825 it’s actually embarrassing that all the media are not even trying to say anything about how bad a decision it was. Instead they’re all making excuses about why it is a pen. Quite simply the whole of England and the media would be going absolutely ballistic over that decision. They would want the referee banned it would be complete mayhem form the media and pundits and it would be spoken about for years and years & the referee would be getting massive amounts of abuse from all England fans. ✌️
@danh555
@danh555 22 күн бұрын
It’s a penalty You can’t block a shot with studs up Would be a foul anywhere else. Why doesn’t anyone know this? Even amateurs know you don’t block studs up
@gavinmillar461
@gavinmillar461 22 күн бұрын
@@danh555 his studs are not up. What about Kane he gets the shot away there legs are at the same height. It a coming together insinuated by kane shooting!! So is the defender not to make an attempt to block the shot? Yes and it’s Kane who followed through on the his strike and hit Dumfries boot. It’s a contact sport it’s not a foul anywhere atoll or the defender is just not meant to raise his foot to the same level as the ball and the striker’s foot. Of course he can, but as I said it doesn’t effect Harry’s shot. It called a coming together after the reaction of the strike. Which Kane managed to get so much power his follow through is the cause of the collision. IMO.✌️Also imagine what would’ve happened to that referee from our fans and media think about that. The ref would’ve been getting abused from everyone and all the soacial media threats would be of the scale.
@paulsmyth3580
@paulsmyth3580 22 күн бұрын
If a keeper comes out of box and clears it' forward does same block and leaves studs up' its a free to keeper
@richardskinner6250
@richardskinner6250 22 күн бұрын
About time England got rub of green. Maradona Lampard against Germany Koeman 30 years ago Etc Well said Cundy!
@YayaTourney
@YayaTourney 22 күн бұрын
You mean like when Spain scored two good goals that were disallowed in Euro96? One of the surest biases is forgetting the fortune in your favour.
@jeffdocherty
@jeffdocherty 22 күн бұрын
Tackling studs up is considered dangerous, simple. Then he misses the ball and connects to Kanes foot. It’s a foul
@rdm3373
@rdm3373 22 күн бұрын
So must he just let Kane shoot?
@AdamJohnsey
@AdamJohnsey 22 күн бұрын
You got that wrong kane kicked his foot not other way round. Also did you not see the handball saka did for it to go to kane so should never have been a penalty
@AkimboTimbo
@AkimboTimbo 22 күн бұрын
But he wasn’t tackling. It was a late block, not even his studs towards Kane. The ball was already shot. And Kane was kicking him not the other way around. Kane falling on the ground like a dying swan. Absolute disgrace… Ridiculous decision.
@jeffdocherty
@jeffdocherty 21 күн бұрын
@@AkimboTimbo Hi Tim I don’t think it really matters what I believe, more a q. Of what’s the evidence for VAR and the Ref. A chest high, studs up challenge that misses the ball but connects to Kane, in the penalty area doesn’t look good!
@easyrouge
@easyrouge 22 күн бұрын
So many lucky decisions have gone in team’s favour in major tournaments and they all think it’s part of the game …Why do England have to be super honest..Was it a penalty..Who cares .🤷🏻‍♂️
@KTopics
@KTopics 22 күн бұрын
I think English football is past that now. We've had too much pain. Playing fair is for simps. These guys will play to win, even if you've got to be a bit dirty to get it over the line.
@easyrouge
@easyrouge 22 күн бұрын
@@KTopics 100% …clear the conscience .
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 22 күн бұрын
It's anti-English sentiment masked up in all sorts of football excuses. These decisions get made every tournament and you don't see this level of sulking. And frequently decisions go against England.
@hus390
@hus390 22 күн бұрын
(1). Both players feet were up. (2). The ball was already kicked. (3). Collusion occurred after the shot. = Not a penalty. Holland was awful and finished 3rd in their group. Turkey missed their key defender for a stupid ban.
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Exactly, so if both feet were high, why only 1 booked? Ball was gone, now if it was 5 secs late, sure, that's a foul, but not when it's literally in the frame
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 22 күн бұрын
Logically not a pen. Rules of the game - it is a pen
@TheJacksteadman
@TheJacksteadman 21 күн бұрын
3 seconds late is attempted murder mate 😂😂😂
@pascalpitchen3219
@pascalpitchen3219 22 күн бұрын
What Baggio did to recover was amazing too. Missed that 94 final penalty then in France 98 he scored that first penalty for Italy in their opening group game. That was huge pressure I remember at the time.
@victorowino386
@victorowino386 22 күн бұрын
Atleast we all agree england were given favours n it wasnt a penalty😂😂
@KTopics
@KTopics 22 күн бұрын
@victorowino386 if it makes you feel better you can all agree with each other as much as you like they lost and we are in the final. 🖕
@frommetoyou1981
@frommetoyou1981 21 күн бұрын
The whole idea of the talk sport show is to divide opinion and create endless pointless debates and then drag that debate out as long as possible.
@kd5973
@kd5973 22 күн бұрын
Yes because if it was the other way, Cundy would be sitting here saying “that’s football” The Dutch weren’t sulking btw. They all said how they felt but then added that they didn’t lose because of it, they had all the time in the world to win it and didn’t.
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 22 күн бұрын
They needed the ref to beat Turkey they should have just stfu. If they actually were the better team on the night they might have a point but the way they act is desperation.
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
But they did list because of it, they got the goal & sat back.
@John.Pdcsta
@John.Pdcsta 22 күн бұрын
England fans still moaning about Maradona.
@Adam-zh4hm
@Adam-zh4hm 22 күн бұрын
Where? 😂
@s2law817
@s2law817 22 күн бұрын
If the penalty decision was anywhere else on the pitch, it'd be a free kick without question, in any league.
@joestuttard1495
@joestuttard1495 21 күн бұрын
It's unfair to call it sour grapes. It shouldn't have been a pen
@redmed10
@redmed10 22 күн бұрын
Anybody criticising anybody for missing a penalty or anything on a football pitch is a sad sack.
@ncscoobysnack
@ncscoobysnack 21 күн бұрын
Hands was made to create the chance for Kane to shoot. Making the penalty even more controversial.
@DavesDomeTube
@DavesDomeTube 22 күн бұрын
It shouldn't even matter, English player had a handball in the box before Kane's shot.
@TheActionTourist
@TheActionTourist 21 күн бұрын
5:04 5:23 Van Dijk is talking about the game in general being in their favour, not the referee decision anymore
@M-yz3mm
@M-yz3mm 21 күн бұрын
Why do they keep say its coming home? Its not the World Cup. Its the Euros.... The saying its "coming home" is meant for the big one. The world cup . As we did in 1966.
@philwalker7160
@philwalker7160 22 күн бұрын
arriving 3 seconds late to a challenge is assault 😂
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Exactly, then it's a foul, but he saw asmt 3 seconds late now was he, that's the point, he attempted to block the shoct, perfectly legal. & shot is gone, if he knocks his keg during shotting that's a foul, but ball was fine
@eddieherrera5314
@eddieherrera5314 22 күн бұрын
Had he scored would they have brought it back for a pen?
@alexjmurphy2145
@alexjmurphy2145 22 күн бұрын
​@@eddieherrera5314That's not how the rules work 🙄
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 22 күн бұрын
Was never ever a pen u muppet
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 22 күн бұрын
Yes. A booking for the foul AFTER kanes shot. But never a penalty.
@ianboyes9154
@ianboyes9154 22 күн бұрын
If this had happened to england, he would be going mental call the penalty decision a joke etc
@carpog
@carpog 22 күн бұрын
Some of the Dutch are going on like that penalty was the worst ever decision in the history of football. Compared to Hand of God, Lampard’s goal that never was and Koeman not getting sent off, I’d say it was pretty minor.
@YayaTourney
@YayaTourney 22 күн бұрын
I agree with them. Those were honest mistakes. This referee had many views of it. In VAR era mistakes are rightly no longer be tolerated.
@kierancali
@kierancali 22 күн бұрын
I said it wasn’t a pen a first but after hearing cundy say that about strikers trying block it and defenders get free kicks he is right they get that everytime. Kane shoots 3 seconds later keeper slaps him in the box that’s still a pen no matter how later it is after the shot
@avery1990
@avery1990 21 күн бұрын
England have been on the other end tons of time...I can think of 10 examples of these type of decisions happening in the Prem this year.
@Sketch2805Studios
@Sketch2805Studios 22 күн бұрын
Studs up penalty simple
@sskengineering8474
@sskengineering8474 22 күн бұрын
Stone cold not a penalty
@Sketch2805Studios
@Sketch2805Studios 22 күн бұрын
@sskengineering8474 late and studs up it was soft but do explain how it was never a pen lol 😆
@jamesm9995
@jamesm9995 22 күн бұрын
@@Sketch2805StudiosKane kicks his foot, not a penalty
@Sketch2805Studios
@Sketch2805Studios 22 күн бұрын
@@jamesm9995 if his studs were down then no pen lol
@billneave5537
@billneave5537 22 күн бұрын
​@@jamesm9995 no matey kick kanes foot if anything as he came in late with studs up so it was a pen, and if you can say if it was outside the box it's a free kick so therefore it's a pen in the box a foul is a foul everywhere on the pitch
@shaunhudson7181
@shaunhudson7181 22 күн бұрын
If a player passes a ball and someone fouls him late in the middle of the park is it a free kick ?? Mental times
@MikeyNottz
@MikeyNottz 22 күн бұрын
Yes for a “Late challenge”, but that wasn’t the case here, 🤷‍♂️ Kane Took the Shot & kicked the defender on the follow through, that’s not a foul & it’s only Harry Kane’s Theatrics (AGAIN) that bought the penalty & that’s why its cheating!! 👌👍
@FiddlinWithYourCerebellum
@FiddlinWithYourCerebellum 22 күн бұрын
I understand why the dutch were upset with that decision. I would be if it was us. But we actually deserved to win. That should soften the blow somewhat. We actually deserved it for the first time in this tournament.
@tommyhughes2264
@tommyhughes2264 22 күн бұрын
You just answered your own point, people where split on weather it was a pen, and that's why VAR should never have got involved, they meaning the ref in charge of a game still does not know the rules.Its there written down in black and white.VAR should only get ever get involved if its a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERROR, why is that so difficult to understand and also the game is not played in slow motion unless your watching the women's game so why do the refs make there decisions based on slow motion replays but the premier league voted to keep this mess going so don't complain because you made your bed now you lie in it.
@simeoncumberland4656
@simeoncumberland4656 21 күн бұрын
If Dumfries goes down injured and holds his foot after Kane’s contact with him and Kane isn’t hurt and appealing, is a penalty still given? I’m not so sure.
@D1craigRob
@D1craigRob 22 күн бұрын
The Dutch wernt complaining when they were sending in flying kicks all over the putch against the spanish... i dont think amy of them got a red either...
@Pmoney8496
@Pmoney8496 21 күн бұрын
Surely a hench dutch defender and his leading studs at your foot will effect your shot
@cryogenixoldskool5803
@cryogenixoldskool5803 22 күн бұрын
Poor Virgil, he has that Scouse Victim Mentality down to a tee
@marksimmonds889
@marksimmonds889 22 күн бұрын
England got a lucky pen vs Denmark in the last semis as well
@KTopics
@KTopics 22 күн бұрын
We also didn't conceed a single goal from open play all tournament. But nobody ever wants to talk about that do they? Far easier to bleat about how lucky we are apparently.
@ThatGuy-tx4vm
@ThatGuy-tx4vm 22 күн бұрын
​@@KTopicsof course you didn't you fool. Look who you play against.
@georgesalano5771
@georgesalano5771 22 күн бұрын
​@@KTopicsthere's a team trophy for that?
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 22 күн бұрын
Cry
@KTopics
@KTopics 22 күн бұрын
@georgesalano5771 no I was simply counter arguing with the other individual that england were not 'lucky' to make it past the semis in that tournament. Just like we aren't 'lucky' to be in the final in this one, despite the other individual claiming otherwise.
@JWNOSNHOJ
@JWNOSNHOJ 22 күн бұрын
I agree with Jason Cundy (and Ian Wright) on the penalty. As far as I'm aware a penalty is awarded when a defender commits a foul inside the defender's Box. It is not a question of whether the defender was trying to block the ball, it is a question of whether or not a foul was committed. Outside of the box probably a free kick would have been awarded and there would have been little or no controversy. Of course the Ref might have gone the other way so in the end it's the Ref's decision based on the rules. We are not talking about a blatent gift to the England team here unlike the gift of the 'hand of god' given to Argentinia years ago!
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Exactly, & is not a foul, that's the point. Of he disrupts Harry shot, it's a foul, of its really late, that's usually ill intent or recklessness, that's a foul.. but he was only 2 frames late. He was going for the block, he's perfectly allowed to do that, what do you want him to wave Harry on through? Ball was fine, so Harry already had clean shot. It's a contract sport, players can still touch each other
@CallumGTFC
@CallumGTFC 22 күн бұрын
​@kurtsudheim825 late is late, and if he 'disrupted' the shot that means he got the ball which then isn't a foul, but he didn't get the ball he got Harry's ankle after the ball had gone I.e late
@rickyroberts5215
@rickyroberts5215 22 күн бұрын
The reason why it’s not a foul because where dumphries puts his foot it’s essentially Harry Kane foot that goes into him not the other way round. Kane follow through causes the collision not dumpries attempt to block the shot lol
@CallumGTFC
@CallumGTFC 22 күн бұрын
@rickyroberts5215 how does that make sense? He's kicking a ball he has to follow through, youve never played the game have you? Dumfries foot isn't just hanging in mid air is it, he's made contact with kane and not the ball, so it's a foul, regardless of whether kane is following through after his shot or not, what it again and you'll see it, unless you're to biased to admit it
@rickyroberts5215
@rickyroberts5215 21 күн бұрын
@@CallumGTFCshut up about ive not played football, mate how many time do people shoot and then get taken out by a keeper, do we give a penalty then no, or when a player slides to block a shot but the player gets his shot off then taken out by the play no one gives a foul, if we conceded that pen you’d be Fumming. Kane foot has followed through the ball and hit dunpries foot. Games gone stupid because of Idiat’s like you
@user-qu4im4ho5n
@user-qu4im4ho5n 22 күн бұрын
Pay back time for Koeman when he should got sent off and we should have had a penalty
@vincenzoriccio5036
@vincenzoriccio5036 22 күн бұрын
Probably wasn't even born
@clario2178
@clario2178 22 күн бұрын
First a Russian linesman now a German ref ,dodgy England
@Radioactive_Hub
@Radioactive_Hub 22 күн бұрын
If that pen was given against England, these 2 would've be going ludacris lol they would've brought up the info on the ref being banned before etc.
@MathewBall
@MathewBall 21 күн бұрын
It is a penalty in the letter of the law, but no, it shouldn't be classed as a penalty.
@broca246
@broca246 22 күн бұрын
That was not a foul nor should it b a penalty. But this will continue because there is no consistency in criticism when the decisions land ur way. Smfh
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz 22 күн бұрын
Two wrongs don't make a right. Apparently because England had bad decisions go against them then when one goes for them that's ok.
@AAA-ws9so
@AAA-ws9so 22 күн бұрын
it was definitely a foul so why can it then suddenly not be a penalty?? Is it a different set of rules for defenders in the box?
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 22 күн бұрын
I've seen worse penalties given definitely. It's mostly sour grapes from foreigners let's be honest.
@DannyGmusicc
@DannyGmusicc 22 күн бұрын
Anywhere else on the pitch it’s a foul so why shouldn’t it be a penalty, studs up is dangerous play and a penalty
@bettybunbun9664
@bettybunbun9664 22 күн бұрын
If that GERMAN referee had given that decision AGAINST England he'd be getting de th threats from the lovely English fans!
@onevoicepodcast6662
@onevoicepodcast6662 22 күн бұрын
Hypocrisy at its finest y’all where on madrids case when the referee messed up
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 22 күн бұрын
Why would they care about Madrid??
@Naths0L
@Naths0L 22 күн бұрын
Shout out that’s football 😂😂
@user-dh5uv9st2m
@user-dh5uv9st2m 22 күн бұрын
You lot have changed your tune.
@leestratford8140
@leestratford8140 22 күн бұрын
SUCK IT UP, perfect 😂
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
Nonsense, yes it halogens, but it shouldn't. That wasn't a pen, & they have va right to complain, not forever but rn. How was many times has Jason himself silked over bad decisions, if it didn't go England way we'd all be accessibility, & have done so before
@garethparry6673
@garethparry6673 22 күн бұрын
Player goes past a keeper and the keeper catches the player but the ball goes out a pen is given, so where is the difference? Lots are missing the obvious and VAR put it up on the screen. Reckless attempt to when the ball as the England player went to play the ball.
@eddieherrera5314
@eddieherrera5314 22 күн бұрын
Keep the same energy when it’s against you
@TheYorkshireGeordie
@TheYorkshireGeordie 22 күн бұрын
So if a defender is chasing an attacker and the attacker gets a shot off but the defender kicks him after its still a red card and a freekick or penalty
@cr4sher
@cr4sher 22 күн бұрын
it wasnt just the penalty though, factor in the england players dropping after a light breeze and bellingham falling and crying everytime one of his moves fail and its a weak way of playing
@Adam-zh4hm
@Adam-zh4hm 22 күн бұрын
Nah mate you're talking nonsense 😂
@CallumGTFC
@CallumGTFC 22 күн бұрын
You're blinded by your own bias if you think any of that actually happened
@chrissyboi88b
@chrissyboi88b 22 күн бұрын
I think the penalty was given solely because it very much almost injured Kane, studs to the top of the foot can break bones,and at the very least be extremely painful, it doesn't matter if its malicious or not, the rule introduced at the start of the tournament was no studs up! But regardless England were going to win that game no matter what.
@lawrencedanao7648
@lawrencedanao7648 21 күн бұрын
Why are the Dutch bitter they weren’t the better team.
@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588
@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 16 күн бұрын
That's now how football works. You can be worse for the entire match and still win. I'm sure you know this.
@Darrenski
@Darrenski 21 күн бұрын
Maybe kane had already shot but since were 'late tackles not fouls'?
@abody499
@abody499 22 күн бұрын
in 1478 that's never a penalty but this is 2024 and we no longer disembowel people during football matches
@sandilemfeka4658
@sandilemfeka4658 22 күн бұрын
That is a penalty all day. Remove VAR and it's still a penalty. I want Spain to win so bad but that is a penalty. Hala Madrid.
@sgmr4
@sgmr4 21 күн бұрын
How can he say that the brilliant thing about football is that it's subjective? Wouldn't it be better when the game does not get so heavilly influenced by one referee's decisions? It's weird to me that a play like this can happen and fans can be so divided on wether it's a foul or not. But hey if the fans don't mind the rules and refereeing then i guess the rules are fine as is.
@jeffery8792
@jeffery8792 22 күн бұрын
England were the better team over 90mins
@georgesalano5771
@georgesalano5771 22 күн бұрын
On a fair analysis it was an easy penalty to give,let me hope we won't hear you all whinning here when it's the other way round.
@findyourwayban1498
@findyourwayban1498 22 күн бұрын
They got played off the park, if they played better they would have won! How can they say they deserved to win?
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 22 күн бұрын
They were 1-0 up mate, duh they sat back
@dilsingh7930
@dilsingh7930 22 күн бұрын
Sat back ?for 80 mins of the rest of the game, are you deluded?
@findyourwayban1498
@findyourwayban1498 22 күн бұрын
@@kurtsudheim825 bitter??? lol
@CallumGTFC
@CallumGTFC 22 күн бұрын
​@@findyourwayban1498 he's extremely bitter mate, he's commented loads of times just clutching at straws, he's either extremely biased or utterly clueless, or a bit of both
@Nocular
@Nocular 21 күн бұрын
​@@kurtsudheim825yeah 1 goal isn't as much as 2 dumbass... Studs up - Penalty. It's simple... But not simple enough for ur dumbass to understand
@robbartley3238
@robbartley3238 22 күн бұрын
Studs showing is dangerous play. Thought that was the term used.
@garyjohnson3751
@garyjohnson3751 22 күн бұрын
Never a penalty
@dexterchua7468
@dexterchua7468 22 күн бұрын
Studs in on anyone with the ball, without the ball, 3 seconds after, 10 minutes is still a foul right?
@cironsilver4410
@cironsilver4410 22 күн бұрын
Hve to agree with Cundy on both points. Holland can go do one. They parked the bus the entire game.
@LeonBlack-it7qy
@LeonBlack-it7qy 22 күн бұрын
The tackle put Kane off and was late and studs high !
@BigAlCapwn
@BigAlCapwn 22 күн бұрын
The problem is, rightly or wrongly, people subliminally think it's only a penalty is a potential goal scoring move is stopped by an action. In this case, Kane got a clean shot away which missed so doesn't fit that mindset. A better example than Cundy's would be if the ball was played along the ground and Kane knocked it to the side whilst Dumphries was sliding in, who takes out Kane without getting the ball the most people would say stone wall pen. This is principally the same thing but in the air and instead of an evasive move of the ball it was a shot.
@hus390
@hus390 22 күн бұрын
(1). Both players feet were up. (2). The ball was already kicked. (3). Collusion occurred after the shot. = Not a penalty. (4). Holland was awful and finished 3rd in their group. Turkey missed their key defender for a stupid ban.
@billybatts8283
@billybatts8283 22 күн бұрын
It was a penalty. Studs up and contact made. Intent is irrelevant it's a foul, the location makes it a penalty. Dangerous play that impacted Kane's ability to finish.
@pmurpy061
@pmurpy061 22 күн бұрын
Hand of god 1986 you lot are still talking about it.
@mpd7878
@mpd7878 22 күн бұрын
Jesuswon a pen for Arsenal vs Liverpool at emirates and its similar
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 22 күн бұрын
It was a pen because the ref said it was. Should it have been? For me, no. It was a weak pen at best. But goodness knows we've had bad decisions against us over the years. As a fan, there's nothing you can do about it.
@GizmoTheViking
@GizmoTheViking 22 күн бұрын
clear penalty for me. Dumfries is late and coming in with the studs first. Also if he comes in 3 seconds late it should still be a penalty. Simply because that would have been a challenge without the ball present, so you're clearly just going for the man. That's the most stupid question I've ever heard. Imagine Kane taking a shot, misses. Then Dumfries walks up to him and knocks him out with an uppercut. No penalty because the ball is out of play? BUT, what ever happened with indirect freekicks inside the penalty area? Should this been one of those instead of a penalty? According to the rulebook, 12.2 Indirect Free kick An indirect free kick is awarded if a player: - plays in a dangerous manner I would say it could fall underneath that and be an indirect free kick instead.
@Johnnythemonkey1256
@Johnnythemonkey1256 22 күн бұрын
Justice will be served by the Spanish.
@migez1
@migez1 22 күн бұрын
These conversations are so boring in comparison to the Colombia vs Uruguay brawl lmao.
@tomking9461
@tomking9461 22 күн бұрын
dangerous play
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