That's why nobody uses Intel. MSI Claw review

[@Strong_Genetics]

A shame MSI wasted that good looking device on those internals ...All the other manufacturers chose AMD for a reason lol

[@PRBMusic3333]

I have the claw and owned the legion go/rog ally og and this claw is now good and can hardly tell the difference between the games. It has things to work on like the other systems, but i would not say it sucks.

[@izcondoralexander]

We are essentially beta testers for Intel GPUs.

[@xuimod]

Intel has been doing graphics for over 25 years. They just suck.

[@izcondoralexander]

@@xuimod yep, we are beta pro max plus ultra tester.

[@NexXxus86]

@@xuimod but not with focus on gaming. They only focus more on gaming since Intel Arc

[@aaronsancez1411]

​@@xuimodagree, just like samsung with their exynos. SUCK

[@dimensionfive1780]

you should get 30% discount for claw 8ai

[@BarelyAverageDude]

I have bought and tested so many handheld PCs and the Claw is the ONLY one that I returned. Performance in games is just bad compared to AMD handhelds. But amazing video!

[@NexXxus86]

Ally X is better, Claw is the worst handheld to get at the moment.

[@clem9808]

Depends where you are ,really. In my country, the Msi claw is the cheapest handheld Pc you can get. I don't see it as a gaming device, but as a friggin PC with 13th gen I5 + capable apu+16gb ddr5 ram for 400$!

[@mansoso3903]

Claw is a waste of money

[@bank869]

@@clem9808 which country is that can i search for link

[@adikaeka1085]

Its currently 499 usd for ultra 7 in indonesia, im veryyy tempted

[@adikaeka1085]

For reference, Steam OLED is 840 here so theres that

[@JankieHands]

20W on the lower battery setting jumpscared me lmao

[@rozor3089]

Same

[@Tiralful]

Yeah that's nuts. On my Ally X Forza 5 on medium ia low 60s, low 70s with fluid motion on. It only pulls 20w total package which is like 3.5 hours. Even on turbo it lasts over 2 hours and is 100fps.

[@glennarcinas3620]

Requires a bit of tweaking using process lasso, below 20w is quite achievable with little to no compromise to fps. It’s not straightforward though

[@alvinbontuyan279]

Goes on sale for an equivalent of 400 usdollars in the Philippines.

[@francohsu4245]

😂 might get it today on Lazada 😂

[@jackipiegg]

Still wondering when will they just fire sale it at $150. That's the price i'll keep it since steam deck is only $200 and is much better.

[@coolmodee]

No point in getting this with the ally x. Battery life and performance is superior .

[@migzdevs9223]

Depends. Like me i bought the MSI claw on sale. About 200 dollars on regulat price

[@danniecurlett8702]

at the price 549 it worth it

[@coolmodee]

@@danniecurlett8702 Nah you can get an ally or legion go for that price

[@darrylneiltanyag2487]

It's also double the price

[@coolmodee]

@@darrylneiltanyag2487 No it's not double the price. MSI claw launched at the same price and the MSI claw is still currently going for 699 new which is 100 more NOT double the price

[@lukehanfett9388]

Thank you for the review. Claw has been popping up in my news feed tagged as on SALE with prices almost the same or even lower than steam deck. I almost considered it. Almost.

[@Wunnabeanbag]

This thing is poop I’m tired of companies releasing stuff undercooked

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

id use it for good older games like dmc, final fantasy etc, if i have spare ca$h to burn

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

Yes it's obviously marketed to homosexuals

[@TheSektor13]

So many cores, so little multi core performance. I am not sure why Intel minis are so expensive....

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

my bro has switch and i find handhend gaming tobe different experience, pretty fun true if its affordable like steam deck

[@jackykwan2580]

​@@iikatinggangsengii2471the point is it doesnt keep you in one place and strain your back like laptop and pc. You can enjoy gaming on the couch its more comfortable than sitting on the pc desk.

[@Urstenoff]

I really like your review. It's fun without compromising important details. Keep the reviews coming!

[@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb]

Windows is another issue, but the intel drivers on linux lead to less preformance. Intel just kinda sucks

[@meric12131415]

Uh the deck has no Intel processor it's powered by AMD

[@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb]

@meric12131415 this is for the claw, the steam deck is great, the msi claw is bad

[@meric12131415]

@@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb ah yeah that part I got it's just the way you phrased it

[@computerscience1101]

​@@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb Lunar Lake is going to change that

[@Winnetou17]

Yeah, Intel drivers for Arc on Linux are behind those on Windows, but they started adding stuff, from kernel 6.2 then 6.4 if I'm not mistaken. Hoping they still keep people working on the drivers, in about one full year, things should work well on Linux too. Though Meteor Lake will most likely never be amazing

[@timsamuels4551]

i recently just got myself the ultra 7 and i must say im shocked on the performance i jsut drop res down stick to medium and it pretty much runs anything i want i feel like it performs over steamdeck but under the rog ally in my personal experience i hope drivers make it better !!! im loving it!!

[@TechInspected]

Great video, and quite a balanced take.

[@jackykwan2580]

Why would you even buy it tbh. The reviews by other people already tell you how bad it is. It is BAD and cost as much as an ally X what a joke

[@Jason_P]

Too bad you don't have a Legion Go to test against. That thing is FANTASTIC.

[@Winnetou17]

Nice to see you've checked with the E-cores disabled, and the P-cores limited to 3.6 GHz. I actually expected that to help more. Also, Windows lagging on 6 cores of 3.6 GHz ? WTactualF ? Something is fishy. Windows by itself should not be laggy starting from 2 cores at 2.0 GHz. Very weird. Then again, I lost all hope at Windows being decent after seeing Microsoft's priorities with Windows 11. So happy I jumped to Linux. Which has its issues too, but you have control and in general you're not treated like a stupid slave. Anyway, I'll stop with the Windows rant. MSI Claw 1 will most likely never be amazing, just decent at most (and that including a hefty price drop). However, apparently in Jan 2025 MSI Claw 8 (8 coming from 8", the screen size) will be launched. With Lunar Lake, which should be muuuch better at power efficiency. I hope MSI won't cheap out and will use a 32 GB chip, not a 16 GB one.

[@JankieHands]

Have you though making a review of the GPD win 2 or ayaneo flip ds?

[@OledBurnInKing]

Have you considered downloading msi after burner for overclocking the msi claw cpu and gpu?

[@lost4356]

The Ultra 5 is cheap tho and they have same GPU as Ultra 7 lol and dont have SD card problem as Ally does

[@J.Wick.]

For say...$399 I'd be in on one of these, the top spec model. Otherwise...It's just not competitive enough.

[@bushwhookie1334]

I have the 135 claw its fantastic i have had 0 issues and have videos on here to prove that

[@bank869]

@7:00 why are u not using overboost? it boost up to 40% on all games to me its like riding a car with 3 gear instead of 5 and keep saying the car suck because its slow

[@creauspssrb627]

Just how bad is this? Currently they're selling it here around 450 USD equivalent for the ultra5 model by msi themselves

[@williamsmodeste3333]

At 8:11 you showed that you don't use the overboost function in msi center This is why your fps is low

[@rozor3089]

Next week I'll be able to test the Claw again for a few days. I will check if Overboost make any meaningfull difference in terms of FPS for Super Battery and Balanced mode. But I am 100% sure that OVERBOOST won't fix the main concern - battery life. And just according to naming, it can get even worse

[@williamsmodeste3333]

@@rozor3089 And if you can, try the core ultra 5 as well, it seem to have a better performance/price ratio than the ultra 7 and in some scénarios it has better fps du to less heat in the socket. For the batterie life i don't think there wil be any improvement with overboost, when i use my claw with this activated in the supper battery mode i still consume about 20w an get aproximatively 2h of batterie life on doom eternal for example. (Sorry for my english i'm french)

[@rozor3089]

Usually MSI/Asus/Acer etc offices are providing (near)top-spec devices in order to show their products from the best possible perspective. So I am not shure if my local MSI office is even have an Ultra 5 variant. I am ukranian so I will not gonna blame your English:D

[@mikilysPOL]

Price for the 135H version is arround 485 to 535$. 155H has more 2 P-cores that take the power from iGPU... And that's bad. Also you can disable in BIOS spare 2 super E-cores what gives even more energy to iGPU. And in price of Ally with Z1 (not Extreme) this is killer. After BIOS update and Intel GPU drivers release it's competition to Ally with Z1 Extreme.

[@Mrs.Twilight-wt6jb]

Unless you want steam os

[@clem9808]

Been a ryzen+geforce pc gamer for a long time. So I decided to give intel a chance and this happened. 🤦 Hopefully it gets better in the future. I believe that the claw is still significantly faster than amd's 780m as synthetic benchmark number scores shows . But the drivers(still beta) are just holding the performance back.

[@SIMONK479]

Want to buy one as it’s 300 pounds off which is mental but I’m guessing this price drop is because of it failing to compete with the competition and msi is trying to not lose money

[@crowntotheundergroud]

I'm glad they created this. At least it will hopefully push Intel to improve their ARC drivers further. The Arc 770, while a great value, is actually pretty terrible when you consider it's hardware is quite exceptional, but it just barely outperforms the 1080 ti, which has silicon that is several generation behind. Intel has a lot of work to do with optimizing their drivers and improving performance. Also, I'm glad this is not just another handheld with a z1 extreme regardless of how trash it is.

[@Rr-j4x]

pretty sure they would release new version with powerful amd chip, 24gb ram, better bigger touchscreen, mouse, better thermal, and bigger battery. they really wasted on this one😂😂😂

[@AlmirYandi20]

Wow, even my X-Play can play skyrim smoothly with High Setting at TDP 15 watt.

[@mohandasghandi3441]

Gmna bro kesan nya selama pakai xplay? Ada keluhan kah?

[@pilaranugrah]

where do you live? I see it as a very suitable place for an introvert.

[@rozor3089]

Kyiv/Kharkiv, Ukraine

[@yukino3247]

Ну с расположением стиков пока обосрались все кроме стимдека, что очень странно

[@tapafon_red]

Everyone wants "like on Xbox controller", but Xbox controller has different grip. The only viable solution is Steam Deck sticks or Dualshock/Dualsense sticks

[@SR-fi8ef]

I feel bad for you, set up a go fund me so we can get you an ally x 😂

[@geekmaniak6986]

Great and underrated video.

[@hazendo1z836]

some unit gpd used intel

[@Taylor-js9sg]

Makes you yearn for a Switch....lighter in weight, works, and you can concentrate on the games, even if not so flashy in appearance.. Have Lego, too heavy to lug around, but probably wipes the floor with this junk.

[@zomg346]

its garbage bought it for 450 bucks and half the game controlls dont even work lmao returned it next day

[@AlexandreCercley-gk9xy]

You should find an association for social misfits, they sell donkey hair pillows

[@THETOTAKANOV]

Рома просто Рома its you ?

[@razztrel6790]

Whoa, that's my favorite youtuber now ^33

[@warlockboyburns]

the intel fanboys

[@Shark-fj2sz]

I am loving my ally x

[@andrewwright.]

i had the rog, complete rubbish imo. tech isnt there and the battery pointless because tou always need it plugged into a wall when you want full power....like an xbox x that i brought after i sold it two weeks later. expensive mistake

[@bank869]

same rog is rubbish its raw power is worst then msi claw in most of the game. rog is better only when having fsr on

[@szelk8723]

Po huj wiedzieć jaki ma procesor!!! Jakby kurwa msi claw jest wydajniejsze od steam decka a jedynie co ma steam deck to większą bateria i touchpady

[@ejironijin3534]

ти робиш подвійну роботу, але чорт забирай, хочеться щоб робив потрійну

[@chisell8062]

Рома прівєт

[@KEN.KANEKl]

Bad content.