That's Your Busy Face? - Episode 3, 26th March - Bray to Howth

We head to Dublin on the DART! The Dublin Area Rapid Transit, and take a ride that local Dan informs us is the earliest commuter railway anywhere in the world. Oh, and Vicki counts the length of a station in her own special way ...
Vicki and Geoff are travelling to 198 railway stations in Ireland and Northern Ireland!
All The Stations - Ireland sees the duo exploring the length and breadth of the Iarnród Éireann and Northern Ireland Railways networks. Along the way, they'll meet the communities connected to the lines, interview local people and those who work on the railways, to find out about their experiences of travelling by train.
To The Book! "The Railway Adventures" is published by September Publishing and was released in October 2018. It accompanies the 2017 'All The Stations' adventure, when we travelled to all 2,563 railway stations in Great Britain. Available here: www.amzn.com/19...
You can see a progress map and station count on the website: www.allthestati...

[@JCCC1609]

Guys I hate to make this emotional point, but Harry is the embodiment what you've started in the youth of Ireland and the UK, in the that there are kids like him who enjoy the trains just about the same amount that Geoff does but harry is considerably younger. If you don't realise it what 2 years ago and now are doing this is your legacy, this is what now what you guys will be remembered for, you're doing a good thing to keep the railways in the forefront of people's minds through these videos. Your doing great guys please don't stop with your conquest.

[@chuckyzzz]

Well said.

[@Silver_Turtle]

I must quite respectfully agree with your comment.

[@jonathanbaker3307]

Odds are I'll probably meet someone who says "I liked trains before it was cool." As a result of these series

[@Silver_Turtle]

I've been in love with trains since the 1950's [I be ancient].

[@SGMiner21]

@@jonathanbaker3307 you could say that's me, I'm 16 yet I have much preferred trains as a mode if transport since I was a little child (although it helps that it was one of the only modes of transport that didn't make me sick!) I had seen Geoff's video before All the Stations actually and from his videos from Londonist and "The secrets of the tube" but as I got older I have loved trains even more I think and things like this series definitely cement that (although I am from Wales not Ireland!) definitely well said it's evident that younger children love All the Stations and it's great to see!!

[@Normanabutler1]

And I want to give a shout out to Harry and his All The Stations Ireland sign!!! Awesome stuff 🚞 🇮🇪 😀👍

[@wycombedaz1]

Norman Butler well done to Harry

[@Digscomics]

Leap cards are superior because they have a picture of a frog on them. I mean TfL say "Oyster" but they don't commit.

[@PrograError]

but does the hong kong holds up? they got a _octopus_ network..

[@yascaoimhin]

Leap Cards are superior because they work all over Ireland

[@davidcollins9512]

And Wellington NZ has Snapper Cards, which has a fish shape on them.

[@shaunaisaJellyBean]

AsHalt the octopus card is superior in its function in that it works in car parks too

[@cjlong2052]

Japanese Tokyo Area cards are Suica, and have a penguin.

[@jwb_]

I live for Vicki's faces during these videos. By the end of the journey there will be so many gifs.

[@Daniel-yc8pz]

I live for Vicki's faeces

[@JeSuisRene]

@@Daniel-yc8pz You may have spelled the last word wrong...?

[@citrussausages5252]

Does anyone else get goosebumps in the intro - or just me

[@ILikeTransport]

I don't

[@grahamjonathan762]

I do, great big squishy ones

[@Tyler.i.81]

CitrusSausages just you I think

[@kartwood]

Totally agree. Goosebumps! So pleased they didn't change the theme!

[@Tyler.i.81]

CitrusSausages not sure about the goosebumps I just find the music really snazzy upbeat optimistic all rolling into one song although the instrumental they play at the end is really good to. They should play this music on the platform when the train is cancelled to make you feel optimistic and hopeful for a next train. Vicky a Geoff great double act cute pair great videos too. I catch trains a hell of a lot it can be frustrating at times but useful and fast.

[@businessbuilding1]

I just love that interaction with the young boy and his mom who were waiting for you on the DART platform for you. Just shows how many people you and your channel have connected with. Great work!

[@Jobother]

Harry single handedly makes me want to be a parent holy shit. That was so cute

[@thespider2566]

Compliments to Vicki on her Irish pronunication - good job.

[@manusmacgearailt667]

way better than Geoff's pronunciation - they should have an extra video translating the real meanings of the Irish station names i.e Seanchill = Sean Chille = old church.

[@6yjjk]

I remember Pearse from a course I got sent on back in the early 2000s. As you came in, there was a huge sign across the back wall: "PASSES MUST BE SHOWN" At some point after they'd put that up, they'd installed a train information display... which covered up the P.

[@simontay4851]

Haha!

[@JA-qs1ug]

The stations renamed in 1966 after the executed leaders of the Easter Rising in 1916 are: Pearse Station (after Padraig and William Pearse; formerly Westland Row) Connolly Station (James Connolly, formerly Amiens Street) Heuston Station (Seán Heuston, formerly Kingsbridge) Cork Kent Station (Thomas Kent) Limerick Colbert Station (Con Colbert) Dun Laoghaire Mallin Station (Michael Mallin) Waterford Plunkett Station (Joseph Plunkett) Galway Ceannt Station (Eamonn Ceannt) Dundalk Clarke Station (Thomas Clarke) Drogheda MacBride Station (John MacBride) Sligo MacDiarmada Station (Seán MacDiarmada) Bray Daly Station (Edward Daly) Wexford O’Hanrahan Station (Michael O’Hanrahan) Kilkenny MacDonagh Station (Thomas MacDonagh) Tralee Casement Station (Roger Casement)

[@arwelp]

First time I visited Dublin, in 1982, I was a little uncertain of my directions up the river and asked an old man the way to Heuston Station, and got the reply “Sure, now, d’ye mean Kingsbridge or Amiens Street?”. It was only because I’d been to Connolly earlier that morning that I’d noticed it was on Amiens Street!

[@jjandkaz2955]

Seriously, Kudos to your music creator, the incidental music on this journey really adds to the enjoyment.

[@LukeAlfordUKsteam]

If vickys shoe size goes up, all your measurements will be sabotaged

[@benbielenberg853]

Bang on time as per usual! And the leap card is available in every Irish city and donegal strangely enough.

[@hhgttg69]

are all stations in Ireland disability accessible?

[@cathyconnelly4616]

Does that include Kilkenny city?

[@traintastictrains3632]

I think it’s used for any public transport

[@gerard5705]

@@hhgttg69 Not all are, some of the smaller stations would have issues, and sometimes "access" is in one direction only. There might not awlays be a Lift to get to the opposite playform.

[@hhgttg69]

@@gerard5705 thank you for that. bit disappointing to hear

[@kdean9537]

✔ Wonderful! I bet you guys made that young gentleman Harry's day, great memories for him...that was really well done! 👍 Love Vicki's scarf! ...take care...lots of love 💖

[@squarewheelsorguk]

Love the sound of DC traction at 15:00 :)

[@immersionirl]

@Winter snow 1500v DC

[@elwisuntemp7199]

It’s the best isn’t it

[@MadCatPerson1977]

FUN FACT: There is no such thing as a 'seagull'. Sure, there are lots of species of gulls, some that live by the sea and some inland but none of them have the word 'sea' in their species name. :) But the ones by the sea are still huge and nothing of what I have said stops them from stealing your chips.

[@rosiefay7283]

So what? We usually refer to animals by something different from their species names. And anyway I see nothing wrong with saying seagulls and not pretending to be talking about just one species.

[@mikebe2090]

Err he did say fun fact ‘fun’

[@christopherbolander2596]

I don't know why I love these videos so much. My only experience with the UK & Ireland is changing planes once at Heathrow and flying over the Emerald Isle on my way back to the US. Geoff's nerdiness (born of true enthusiasm for trains) is absolutely endearing; Vicki's very subtle eye rolling and head shaking at Geoff make me laugh out loud. In short, I love them both! From the real people they meet along the way to the small bits of small "h" history along the way - all coupled with beautiful imagery, have led me to my greatest binge-watch ever. And those least used stations ... sigh! So wistful!

[@oldtechnobodycaresabout]

Maybe you should come and experience it for yourself

[@sebn-mk1gc]

Is it just me or the part at Seapoint station brought a tear to my eye. Geoff and Vicki are such lovely people.

[@kikivoorburg]

This upload just made my weekend a little bit better!

[@angusgtw]

Mine too!

[@moviesireland]

There's a transport museum in Howth that I think you'd like. Also if you like castles, theres a great one near Malahide Dart station.

[@EuroDC1990]

So we're only on video 2 of trains but what strikes me is how well designed things seem. The interiors seem well suited to their use, seats look to be aligned to windows and have plenty of room, everything looks very clean and minimalist. I think the UK could maybe learn a thing or two!

[@PrograError]

Drill Instructor Gunnery Sergeant Hartman : SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE ! YOU GOT A WAR FACE?! Recruit Vicki : *Shows Busy Face*

[@johncostello5869]

The scenery from Wexford to Bray is STUNNING. I love taking that journey. I grew up in Bray and have ALWAYS appreciated the abundance of natural beauty all around. Bray beach, the Cliff Walk and Bray Head were all like our back garden as kids and we had a great time climbing and exploring and, in later years, cycling down Bray Head. From the Cross. ALL THE WAY DOWN! Great fun!

[@manusmacgearailt667]

Salthill and Monkstown at 9:27 - never thought they would film my local station that I use travelling to school.

[@joannegray5138]

That brings back memories. I holidayed in Ireland (my ancestral home) about 15 years ago and went all over on the Dart. Beautiful country, wonderful people ❤

[@Andrew-jv7tc]

I took the DART to Howth last year on St. Patrick's Day to do the cliff walk. It's a splendid trip that takes less than half a day. It's a 25-30 minute train ride from Dublin Tara Street (leaving every half hour at least) and then a 2-hour hike along some gorgeous cliffs in Howth. It's an easy hike and it feels like you're at the edge of the world. Then just hop on the train back to Dublin. Highly recommended for anyone who has a short stay in the city. Also, I never went to any national rail stations (except for St. Pancras to catch the Eurostar) the one time I visited the UK, so it's great to see stations I stopped at in Ireland on my one trip there on All The Stations. Keep it up, Geoff and Vicky!

[@johnnyonezero2]

Just to clarify, the atmospheric railway was built for the purpose of moving granite from dalkey quarry to "Kingstown" for the purpose of building the piers, so it wasn't a passenger railway. Its original trackbed is parallel to the dart and is know as "the metals"

[@clearskies]

I always called that the metals

[@davekirwin]

Dan was great and informative, Harry was enthusiastic and positive. Busy face - lol. End of line - tick. Seagull - tick. Nice drone shots too.

[@conlethbyrne4809]

I could fall asleep 😴 wake up & know were I was without opening my eyes. I know there isn't many stations but when you catch it for ten years we all would. Of course one can catch the bus or drive & drive also. I recommend travelling on the dart for anyone who likes stunning views as the scenery between Dalkey to Bray is outstanding as Wicklow is known as the garden of Ireland❤🇮🇪 👍

[@garryhammond7616]

Well done Harry and mum Pam of course. Put a smile on my face this morning :) Enjoying this journey very much well done to Vicky Geoff and Will of course for some great editing. Tick.

[@markstramtrainbuscapades1729]

There was once an electric tramway in Howth! Owned by the Great Northern Railway (of Ireland, naturally) it ran from Howth-Hill Of Howth. It closed in the fifties (and I think was the last tramway in Ireland before the LUAS was opened) and ran with open top double deckers, one of which, car 10, is preserved at the National Tramway Museum in Crich, Derbyshire. Back in the eighties, Car 10 was loaned to Blackpool and I rode it on an Illuminations Tour in 1985!

[@toyotaprius79]

Car No.2 is in Californian Orange Empire Railway Museum. And lets all not forget the wonderful documentary/love letter to the Howth line, _'Once Upon a Tram'._

[@elwisuntemp7199]

Would’ve loved to been in one of the Howth trams, they seemed to have such charm. I even made a school project on them including that Once Upon a Tram documentary.

[@danielo6546]

loved seeing all the shots of bray

[@tomsmith5584]

For those of us in the United States, you can pick up a copy of National Geographic Traveler book on Ireland at Barnes and Noble for less than $10. They are in the vestibule and on the bargain books shelf if you're interested. It's a great way to see what Geoff and Vicki are so excited about.

[@ninjagoggles]

Awwww!! I love you both! And damn, this is making me miss Ireland & you're not even to the places I knew well... can't wait for Cork!

[@toyotaprius79]

Aww man, while you guys were at Howth I was hoping you'll mention the Hill of Howth tram. A circular route around the peninsula meeting at sutton end to end with electric double decker trams. Near Howth station is the grounds to Howth castle where inside you can find the Irish Transport Museum. It's quite very small and sorry looking but they do a good job at preserving their vehicles including 2 trams there. One tram from Howth resides in preservation in England and another in California. Look up the short film _'Once Upon A Tram'_ tbh it makes me tear up each time.

[@choo_choo_stew]

"You guys are everywhere you go you're always there" I'm not sure if it's just the Irish accent but to me she sounds pissed at you guys! Haha. Keep up the good work guys. 😊

[@AdamMcCarthy74]

Good to see you guys got to experience the joys of a wild group of loud Spanish students. The bane of many regular commuters in Ireland in Spring/Summer :)

[@tigga911]

waited all day for this

[@JohnTalbot-k6xi]

Absolutely incredible content this go around -so much fun to watch. Your video skills are remarkable in telling the story. Vicki’s stage presence is spot on (!!) Looking forward for tomorrow's episode

[@gjermundhigraff7789]

I get flashbacks from my one experience with trains in Ireland... Which was from Malahide to Lansdowne Rd and back.

[@crispyfrogs]

It just gets better and better.

[@darrenblois8495]

The keen eyed will note that you alighted at Pearse station and got back on at Connolly, thus bypassing Tara Street. Is that this year's Isle of Wight?

[@wintrwunderland]

No, it's this year's Ryde Pier Head, Ryde Esplanade, Ryde St John's Road, Smallbrook Junction, Brading, Sandown, Lake and Shanklin.

[@AllTheStations]

Tara Street? where's that? we've never heard of that station. :-D

[@SpudderRail]

@@AllTheStations it does exist: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Street_railway_station

[@gerard5705]

@@AllTheStations Between Pearse Station, where you go off to go to the Metro Publicity event, and Connolly where you resumed your journey to Howth. You also missed the Malihide branch of the DART, or are you doing that as part of the Belfast run, which might allow you go back and tick Tara Street

[@Ynysmydwr]

@@AllTheStations www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.34676&mlon=-6.25414&zoom=15#map=15/53.3482/-6.2520

[@whackingbadge]

I loved the scenery at Bray Head, reminded me of Glasgow.. It's also great to see enthusiasm from a young railway enthusiast!!

[@nickcline6594]

Really do enjoy “Vicki Explores”. It adds a whole new feeling to the videos

[@penaltygallery]

The previous two times I've visited Dublin I've seen a game of Bray Wanderers in the evening and caught the dart back after the match, the station is almost just opposite the ground. Happy memories.

[@DavidChapmanAZ]

I like the way you have taken the original music theme and built upon it for this series. Nice job and props to the music department.

[@tarabuses]

You missed Tara Street station so will have to return?

[@DavidChapmanAZ]

Tara Street is assuming the Isle of Wight role for this trip.

[@gerrytierney6075]

And they missed Glasthule, Blackrock and Sydney Parade as well as everything between Connelly and Sutton! They all deserve their shout outs! While Seapoint might be the least used station, it' got the most loyal users having fought off constant threats of closure during the old CIE days. Go Harry!

[@tarabuses]

I don’t ’t mean that they didn’t show Tara Street station. They didn’t pass through it as you will see on the map. They walked from Pearse to Connolly in the video.

[@SGMiner21]

@@tarabuses I reckon they might do a video of just of the Dublin stations and in more detail

[@gerrytierney6075]

You are correct - this is a great excuse to have them come back and do Part 2! @@tarabuses

[@swiper1818]

Excellent Harry!!!

[@MarkGraham88]

Really enjoying these videos,love all the interesting little facts! Looking forward to the rest of the series

[@johnnyonezero2]

Vicky's Gaelge is coming along very well, I'm impressed!

[@jamesbutler6253]

Gaeilge ;)

[@andrewholloway231]

Wow, the pre-title sequence and the view of Bray is breathtaking. Well done, thank you.

[@mrichards55]

Vicki is becoming more Irish each day ☘️

[@grahameferguson7013]

I could binge watch this show. Can't wait for the next episode. It can't come quick enough.

[@RichardBridge127]

At 0:31 the bridge Geoff is standing on looking down to the track is the site of an old halt called Naylor's Cove which served the bathing area of the same name just below the track. If you look there are still some remnants of the long abandoned platform, though I don't think they're visible in the video.

[@chrishewitt4220]

Must see videos! Love it. Beautiful couple, beautiful scenery

[@delboy7039]

As we watch Lansdown Road sweep by, it's on TV with the Rugby game going on inside..!

[@seanralph]

D Vickers I was at that game today !!

[@noyonb1483]

I lived in Bray for 10 years, great to see you explore. I used to take my dog up there. Glad you enjoyed your visit! Didn’t find you on KZbin until after Kickstarter otherwise I’d have adopted. Love the videos. Enjoy your adventure!! Just spotted you at Seapoint. My old school (Newpark) is a walk away and I used that most school days to get back to Bray (Including the day my friend tied my bag to the seat and I didn’t untie it in time so had an extra trip to Greystones 🥺)

[@hudson7354]

These two combine superbly. Love these vids.

[@anto687]

This is lovely, seeing my occasional commuter route in such a nice way! Looking forward to the rest of the episodes :)

[@jamesblair18]

I feel as though Vicki needs a whole series of Vicki Explores Ireland Castles! The trains will be incidental !

[@dwggladwin]

Another awesome video! Keep up the amazing work team!!!

[@aksie]

I live close to Howth! So exciting to see you guys pass my dart stop!

[@CTCTraining1]

Great series. I wonder if we can start a crowd funding page for the next country and have it reach the goal before they get back :-)

[@JohnSmith-oj3fh]

We loved this entire series, but we can't believe you took the train to Bray and then the Dart from Bray and didn't mention Brunel was responsible for the creation of the track and the tunnels between Bray and Greystones. You love tile work in the tube stations and Bray station has amazing tile of Brunel and his work.

[@rogerwhittle2078]

You Guys are having way too much fun. This is supposed to be work! And did you know you were going to meet Harry and his mum? They were just too good to be true. And while we're at it, why does the hair on the back of my neck stand up when I hear the music? Music that is travelling to....anywhere and doing it at a train's pace. I am beginning to see Ireland in a different and exciting light - thanks guys.

[@EmmyGuitarxGirlBird]

Really enjoying this journey so far keep it up! 😃

[@grayman999]

A superb you two always make me smile thank you 💕💕✅

[@massivley]

I cannot get enough of watching these videos

[@LaurieWinkless]

Loving this series so far V & G 😊 are you planning to spend much time in Dundalk (my hometown!)? The station - Clarke Station - is really stunning & has been preserved & restored to its original design. Be sure to have a look around the tiny wee museum in the station & at the old junction box at the end of the platform. Lots of associated history too, as part of the Great Northern Railway (which I'm sure you already know all about!) Also there's a fantastic pub directly across the main entrance to the station - Kennedy's. If you have time, definitely pop in for a drink or some lunch (& tell the owner Eugene I said hello 😊)

[@AidanMmusic96]

My grandma was from Dundalk so I'd be interested to see the station too! Not been to Dundalk yet, and I'd like to change that!

[@JLWestaz]

You said, "Fishing village right on the edge of the water." Do they ever build then inland? Fishing Village in the middle of Kansas. Funny!

[@theeggsquidzidboi7324]

Leap Cards do work inside the short hop zone. (e.g. If you were to take the Commuter service from Connolly to Drogheda, you can use the Leap Card until Balbriggan.)

[@7renfeave]

soooo many good feelings with this video, I lived in Dublin for some time and I was EVERY DAY doing the whole line from Malahide to Bray and on weekends I used to go to Howth, unfortunately I didn´t film much of these days...so, I´ll try to get back there and rock on the line with my new camera, congrats for this videos, so awesome

[@harrytodhunter5078]

7PM is the best part of my day

[@TheDoctordonnanoble]

So weird but wonderful seeing my usual DART station(s) on this!!

[@vincentcalvelli6452]

Hi Vicki & Geoff, I am thoroughly enjoying A.T.S Ireland 🇮🇪. Shout out to your new friend Harry.

[@martinpritchard4284]

Great work Vicki and Geoff and great to see a positive look at Ireland's railway network from a tourist/documentary point of view. Have started watching your travels since your journey has be put on the RTE news our national tv station. Keep up the great work :-)

[@markerichannelly]

Aaagh it’s so surreal seeing Irish Rail on KZbin when you’re from Ireland 😂 absolutely love it! 😁 I can offer info on Castlerea (my parents are from), most of Dublin (I grew up near Santry) and Galway (Where I live) 😄 - also Vicki learning Irish is just brilliant 👌🏻 🇮🇪 absolutely love it 👍🏻

[@tonyrenz6666]

Just really love all your videos guys,Feel like I know you both even though I've never met you!Keep up the great work!

[@claret7110]

Howth is a lovely place, great little market just across from the station! We also had a lot of Spanish speaking tourists on the train from Dublin to howth!

[@arwelp]

And there’s a very nice restaurant on the quay, next to the harbourmasters’ office!

[@patrickwilkinson721]

Geoff and Vicki would be great parents

[@celovity_747]

Yay! I remember taking the DART from Bray to Howth, it was long and good, it was packed though, Amazing video Geoff and Vicki, hope your having a great time in Ireland.

[@WhiteTiger333]

Great bit of history there with yer man, Dan. And, Harry...so cool! A fishing village - right on the edge of the water. Funny, that. :p Love the green Dart trains! And a gorgeous ending to this video. Are you doing your own drone footage? It's so lovely!

[@StuartClary]

Howth is lovely, we went there a few years ago and like your experience only one of us could pronounce the word Howth, and when we finally reached that tower the museum was closed too! Spent ages watching the seals in the harbour and when we asked the fish and chip shop if they had anything vegetarian they replied 'yeah chips'

[@nevej9556]

Wow the camera work is really stunning in all the videos.👍👍 Great job!👍👍👍

[@leonkernan]

Every time I click on these videos, you guys are there.

[@riccardociman2673]

Beautiful Howth! Spent one day there walking the "cliffs"!

[@KentRailPhotography]

Great one! Loving it!

[@craftybear4846]

Really enjoying this new series! Watching from Adelaide, South Australia.

[@imaginox9]

I've noticed that Irish trains have inverted the door alarms, they use the doors closing tone for opening and the opening tone for closing !

[@ronanohagan9998]

Depends on the Irish Rail stock, they all have their own tones :)

[@imaginox9]

Yes it should depend ! It came to me because these tones have become some sort of European standard, slow beeping or alternating for opening, and fast beeping for closing (even if where I live, in Belgium, none of our trains have these tones. They simply have a continuous old fashioned buzzer for closing (or a synth of it on Desiro trains) and that's it) ;)

[@leefergusson1957]

Great to follow this daily this time around as I only discovered Geoff and Vicki last year and their Allthestations journeys last year

[@jamesquaine6264]

Leap works on commuter rail in cork to and most buses in Ireland too

[@johnsmith-qf1op]

Always time for a quick Vicki.

[@arwelp]

At Dun Laoghaire did you notice that the doors and windows on the building on the southbound platform are a few feet up in the air? That’s because they had to lower the track and the platforms when they electrified for the DART in the early 80s so they could get the wires under the bridge. I arrived in Ireland for the first time about a month after they’d severed the branch to the station at the old Dun Laoghaire ferry terminal, so we had to use rail replacement buses to Connolly :(

[@chrisrichmond403]

Notice Vicki is wearing another style of earrings .. I have also noticed doing more of these videos Vicki is growing in confidence even more compared to 2017. 👍🏻

[@Tyler.i.81]

Upbeat and optimistic theme tune is just the best they should play it on all trains or on platform when the trains are cancelled.

[@thomilsvlog4544]

Ah jeez, Booterstown at 11:36 - That brings up some memories there of getting soaked on the footbridge while heading to the German Embassy nearby...

[@powderedground78]

Dan's accent was bizarre. Really Irish at points, with a British twang at others. Great video as always!

[@SyntheticWitch]

those old DART trains sound just like PEP stock! I love it!

[@stephendines1936]

Stunning views.

[@paulelliott3220]

Nice to see you on the Dart and some cool shots Dalkey is a lovely place and has an amazing book festival every year I've ridden this hundreds of times ... lots of highlights on the route, I'm in Raheny Nice meeting in Seaport with Harry ✅ Some beautiful shots from Howth ... there's a Martello tower in Sutton Strand too