That Time Doctor Who Made The Queen A Werewolf

[@HarboWholmes]

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[@stevenhale2935]

I'm more concerned about your anti-Blockheads comments and I expect a public apology video

[@whocrusader5179]

Silly how put ninjas in the story background. My goodness

[@stargazer65]

I’m concerned 😦 you have ONLY 12k subs I’m so bloody surprised your not even in the 500k region you deserve it

[@wendyheatherwood]

The library being werewolf proof wasn't a coincidence as the room was designed to be a trap for the werewolf and presumably Prince Albert and Sir Robert's father were planning on tricking the wolf to enter once they'd got the diamond cut just right. If that meant the queen had to be there then Albert could probably convince her. The big, big coincidence in the episode is the diamond, not necessarily that she had it on her but that it was finished when it all went down. It hadn't been tested because nobody alive knew what it was for. It was incredibly lucky that the last cut had done the trick.

[@carolinemcgovern4488]

I mean, that makes sense if Albert had to convince Victora, or even Sir Robert could it. But It sounds more likely that Albert did it. But alas, he died before he could convince her.

[@zigzagzoom369]

One of my favourite character-establishing moments for Ten is when he sees the werewolf transform for the first time and everyone's terrified but he just says "oh, you're beautiful!"

[@Real_Dystopian]

The same fascination we later see challenged in Midnight!

[@MarkWiseTechno]

I like to think that whenever the TARDIS shows up much earlier or later in time than expected it was really only a minor inaccuracy because time itself is so vast that even something like 100 years is equivalent to only being a few feet away from the intended destination. From the TARDIS's perspective, they got you to the destination just fine.

[@harry_page]

Random fact: there's a TV programme called Victoria with Clara's actress Jenna Coleman in the role of the queen

[@TheElectricitychick]

I love that show! It's so beautiful

[@jonathanskinner7647]

I like the episode, it's not fabulous but it's nice. I think it would be improved if the cold open replaced by something less blatant. Give the story some tension and remove the gymnastic monks and make them more like a cult . The werewolf looks great and the doctor saying "you are beautiful" always makes me smile. Anywho, 6/10, pass if busy

[@oceans5011]

Video idea, in depth video on Jamie because the only thing I know about him is well.. that his name was Jamie

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

He was also Scottish, handsome, and a little naive at times. But that's all I know from the little I've seen hehe

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

He used to be a presenter on CBBC as I recall. In fact I think he left CBBC just as he appeared on Doctor who.

[@GCAbleism158]

The actor that played him (Fraser Hines) was in Emmerdale.

[@jgr2637]

Clever dick films does a great in depth retrospective about each doctor and he's started with companions and done one on Jamie. He puts in loads of work talking about characters, development, the actors and the behind the scenes production. You should really check it out

[@erinella]

I second this! I adore Jamie and the second Doctor together and I would love an episode dedicated to him!

[@alfiethomas5632]

Completely agree that Queen Victoria, and more so Pauline Collins' portrayal of her is a standout part of the episode. Obviously not every character The Doctor meets can be Queen Victoria, but I'd really like to see more characters stand firmly for themselves rather than completely for or against The Doctor and the companion

[@jaehurd3524]

10:17 Im surprised they haven't done a Roanoke episode yet.

[@eoghanclark165]

I would love to see one on the Dyatlov Pass incident!

[@arg3824]

If the werewolf bit Elizabeth I or even Mary Queen of Scots, it wouldn't have been genetically passed down to the current line of the royal family, because none of them are directly related to the Tudors. So it wouldn't end with the mystery of whether the queen was successfully bitten and passed it on to her line. That story point made sense to me.

[@sinless69uk]

They are descended from Mary Queen of Scots.

[@sweetpoptropica]

The most memorable thing from tooth and claw for me is rose's outfit. That's always the outfit I imagine rose in.

[@hegantank6495]

me too but i didn't realise it until i read this comment

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

You know the main thing I love about this episode is the soundtrack. I think it's in other episodes too, but that music that sounds melodically similar to a bit of the Imperial March but less March-ish, that it plays when the Werewolf is transforming, I think the track is just called Tooth and Claw, always gives me tingles.

[@ReddwarfIV]

"The whole idea is for the werewolf to bite Queen Victoria and turn the royal family into werewolves to fast-track the industrial revolution and turn it into a steampunk paradise" Wait... why did the werewolves need to be stopped, again? That sounds awesome!

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Well, they're werewolves. So it'd be like having serial killers for rulers. Which...I'll admit is like, half of the monarchs England has ever had. Werewolves are probably less dangerous in all honesty.

[@nightowl8477]

3:05 and they'll pay for it in Doomsday. Nice, subtle arc.

[@jmace2424]

You’re telling me that you don’t think a grieving Queen Victoria would carry around something that Albert gave her that reminds her of how much he loved science? Especially when it’s a beautiful, gigantic crystal?

[@KnightsRealm98]

1. Yes, Jamie is the best. Sarah Jane comes close, though. Honestly, the Second Doctor's era is underrated in general. 2. This episode is far from "the greatest episode of all time," and the Shaolin-esque monks were... an odd choice. However, it felt like a typical Doctor Who shlocky episode. As for why the Werewolf (Lupine wavelength Haemovariform) didn't infect the previous monarchs or conquer England under Victoria, the Doctor explains that it took time for the wolf to grow strong enough in both cases. Now, they did just kind of pass it off, and never payed it off. Honestly, I always felt it was a fun episode, far from perfect, but the Scottish setting and the wolf itself, and even Victoria were all things I enjoyed. I can see your points, though.

[@legoworld246]

I think part of the reason why 2nd Doctor is underrated is the fact that out of his 21 stories, only 7 exist in their original entirety today. Sure, not every story is completely missing, and there are animations and recreations and the audios, but not the original episodes themselves, which really hurts it, since only the more invested fans would actively seek it all out. More casual viewers would either skip it all, or at most only watch the surviving stories, which, again, are less than half.

[@KnightsRealm98]

@@legoworld246 Sadly true. There is so much of Classic Who lost to the sands of time.

[@mb2000]

“BBC ident monks” I wasn’t the only one that thought that’s where they came from then!?

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

What troubles me about this episode is the lack of followup to the werewolf's line "There is something of the Wolf about you." After the whole Bad Wolf motif of season one we get this line from the lupine wavelength haemovariform and then that's it until "The Day of the Doctor". They toss out a line that directly refers to a major character arc, and then have it mean nothing. The show got caught up in the whole "Bad Wolf meme" idea and started putting it in willy-nilly, which is why you get Bad Wolf Bay and "there's something of the Wolf about you." It's like Bad Wolf became a concept of its own rather than an idea with a purpose. (Calling the beach in Norway "Bad Wolf Bay" makes no logical sense, because Bad Wolf wasn't about saying goodbye to the Doctor. And it also wasn't about the end of the world like the Doctor says in "Turn Left." It was about saving the Doctor. So doesn't it make more sense if it's a place where they find each other, instead of a place where they lose each other? Twice?) And that "there's something of the Wolf about you" line could've easily been a jumping off point to a new storyline. Since when you stop to think about it, Bad Wolf must have had some long-term impact on Rose. If River Song was "human plus" by virtue of being conceived in the Vortex (if you can ignore the fact that a child in utero could be affected that severely by something that the parents show absolutely no reaction to makes no sense), Rose must be even more changed since she actually held the Vortex herself.

[@zeallust8542]

I always took it as she became the Bad Wolf like a legend, the concept followed her, and perhaps the phrase became legend too? Nothing canon here, just how i enjoy thinking of it

[@callycap3]

The lowest-ranking episode of the Davis era? Really? Usually I agree with all your points but come on, what about Idiot's Lantern? I've been rewatching New Who recently and found myself really enjoying almost every episode, I did think Tooth and Claw wasn't as great as I thought it did when I was younger but it's far from the worst of Davis's era.

[@legoworld246]

This episode isn't that good, but saying it's the worst from the same season that gave us The Idiot's Lantern, Love and Monsters, and Fear Her is pushing it. But then to say it is the worst of the entire RTD era, which means it also competes with 42, and the Slitheen 2-parter is borderline disingenuous.

[@ranjanasharan4051]

​@@legoworld246slitheen 2 parter was great though idk what you mean That story is overhated

[@desmondcoppin591]

All those other episodes are far better.

[@danm3882]

Personally I really like Tooth and Claw but I respect your opinion. Story has it Russell T Davies put together this story over a drunken bank holiday after Stephen Fry dropped out of writing an episode.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

That would actually have been "Fear Her".

[@nightowl8477]

@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 - Russell didn't write Fear Her, Mathew did and Russell didn't edit the script.

[@aaronteague3512]

Defending The Despised: Firstly, the reason the wolf doesn't simply bite an earlier monarch in history is explained by the fact it had to grow from a single remnant cell and develop over hundreds of years. They directly address this in the episode, and its also why Queen Victoria doesn't immediately turn into a wolf when only bitten, as the cells needed a long time to nurture and grow. The doctor and Rose reference the modern day royals potentially being werewolves, which is a nice call back to the fact it takes time to nurture and grow. The wolf's motivations aren't just to gain control of the throne and create a 'steampunk paradise', it's to utilise the power of steam technology in the very productive and innovative industrial revolution (the most advanced moment in human history up to this point, from both the wolfs and the residents' perspective) and take it to the stars to conquer and have an intergalactic empire powered by steam. Which is actually terrifying and pretty high-stake, if you ask me. I think the best way to look at this episode is through the lens that it's a base under siege type episode in more ways than one: firstly by the monks who protect the wolf, and then when it transforms, the wolf itself. The whole narrative of the child going missing once in a generation is a reference to how the monks nurture the werewolf cells to grow, by stealing local children to be hosts. This along with the mistletoe-deterrant arc really add to the whole mystique of the wolf, making it akin to vampires with the whole garlic thing. Queen Victoria travelling to get the koh-i-noor recut is an excellent plot device too, as it explains why she's in that area in the first place but also gives the whole 'Albert protecting her from beyond the grave and planning it all years in advance with Roberts' father' arc too. The fact that it's an alien that looks like a wolf makes no sense, but neither does the fact a dalek looks like a squid, or that Time Lords and most other who aliens are all humanoids. The house staff stumbling upon the mistletoe idea separately to the the doctor is interesting too, as it lends to the whole base under siege thing with everyone working together, but not necessarily from the same angle, in order to try regain control of the house. Personally, I love this episode. The joke the doctor makes at the table when sir Robert asks him if he noticed anything was wrong and he replies "bald athelitic men, wife away, I just thought you were happy" is comedic gold. The gravitas of the performance of queen Victoria in my opinion lends to this episode being a sheer classic. Who knows why it's so overlooked. Who, Nose...

[@aaronteague3512]

Also, the diamond being recut by Albert was to get it perfect for defeating the wolf. The fact Victoria was on the way to get it recut, was because Albert had died. She didn't do it to fit the telescope she didn't know anything of, she did it in honour of her late husband who she was clearly grieving. The monks are the ones that stop the train queen Victoria was travelling on. It was NO coincidence. The monks knew it was likely that queen Victoria would stop off at torchwood house due to her husband's ties to it. They know so much so that they hijacked the house and pretended to be staff and set up their entire operation there. Don't you think if the monks knew that Victoria would continue to get the diamond cut and even knew when, that it's entirely possible that Albert saw that this would happen and so set up all the defences in torchwood house incase it ever did happen. As a precaution, not a prediction. Seems wholly plausible to me. It's also entirely possible that Albert and Sir Roberts father set up defences at torchwood house in the room with the telescope purely to protect the telescope from ever being sabotaged by the wolf on any attempt to destroy it. The original intention might not have been to let the wolf infiltrate the house, but rather to lure it close and trap it with the telescope, possibly in an entirely different location to where they stored and worked on it. All of the subtleties and implications in this episode are integral to the plot and must not go overlooked!

[@jcksparrowfan]

I feckin LOVE the episode: from the production values, to the costume design to the color scheme (I'm an editing nerd) and tension that runs throughout the entire thing. The wolf reminds me of Lupin in Harry Potter, too. And remember, David just using his normal Scottish brogue in this ep. So he's a Scot playing a Brit playing a Scot. *Twilight Zone music*

[@robthetindog8218]

Actually I liked it; even with all the talking parts. What I don’t understand is why they would set it later in Victoria’s life after Albert had died; after she had her children….there was no way to transmit it to her descendants.

[@SusannaEmily]

By 1879, Victoria had already had all of her children, thus it cannot have influenced the hereditary nature of royalty 😂😂

[@olived9560]

She could’ve bitten them in werewolf form, though,

[@reganhoskin6613]

I remember when this episode first came out and the BBC had an advert with monks dressed in orange robes jumping about and I thought the opening of this episode was just that advert. I was like 8 at the time so I was super confused.

[@goji253]

I still think the Werewolf design in this episode is better than almost every single live-action Werewolf I've seen. (Talking about the overall look, not the special effects here) Also, let's be real, this is pretty much up to standard as far as Werewolf stories go. I have yet to see one that is truly special or good. The genre itself appears to be very limited even when looking at the better ones.

[@SinnohGreen]

I remember being confused on the continuity as a kid, because I was around 5 or 6 when it came out, so I thought this was to do with bad wolf.

[@dangreen3186]

SFX magazine, UK’s best selling and most respected sci-fi magazine gave this episode 5/5 😎👍

[@bmvthemoviefanatic7282]

LOL! This video made me realise how goofy this episode is XD Still, AWESOME looking Werewolf and Tennant having a blast, so I still have ALOT of fun with this episode. Once again, though, you point out how the Doctor and Rose become more toxic (Flashbacks to Cassandra playing "Toxic" in "End of the World") and how they are being criticised for it, something I hadn't seen in that way before, as you normally side with the Doctor, so you pointing out that he is being criticised for his insensitivity at points was a cool observation.

[@lozzamarie]

I really like this episode but the monk scene at the beginning is so cringe 😂😂

[@mattthesilent777RED]

About your question concerning the wolf and Elizabeth I: Elizabeth I didn't have children so the wolf biting her would be pointless, the person who ruled England after her, James VI of Scotland, was her nearest relative and therefore her heir. But I would think that 300 years is more than enough time for suspicion to rise if the wolf bit James

[@nightowl8477]

4:35 oh, yeah, very BBC. Very Robin Hood. Anyone remember Robin Hood?

[@jmace2424]

Can someone please explain to me where it was estimated that Victoria’s Catchphrase was “We are not amused”?

[@JuniDebonaire]

A lot of people have already made points but I think the main one is that this is supposed to be a fun episode and is not supposed to be taken that seriously. I remember loving this episode as a kid.

[@rahmodin9209]

Not sure if you know but the original plan was to have the queen die in this episode which would have created the alternate world later seen in age of steel

[@rahmodin9209]

This likely would have had something to do with the plot point of advancing the industrial revolution as you mentioned

[@dobs407]

Did you just insult Ian Dury and The Blockheads

[@HarboWholmes]

Indeed

[@Lord_Flash94]

Yeah dude The Blockheads are seminal.

[@harry_page]

@@HarboWholmes Watch out or you'll be the one getting hit with the Rhythm Stick

[@Renegade2786]

I just want to point out that Torchwood was first mentioned in *Bad Wolf* during the Weakest Link segment.

[@pendragcn]

i like tooth & claw just because david looks like an absolute snack in this episode

[@stevenhale2935]

He could hit you with his rhythm stick

[@jasminethomas7770]

Being a history nerd, the only thing that bugs me about this episode, (I like this episode a lot) is that it would have been better with Queen Victoria before she had her children. Yes she had a genetic condition in her blood that was hereditary, but by the time of the episode, she would have already passed it to her child, Leopold, who struggled with it all his childhood. If she got the bite in 1879, he theoretically wouldn't have had the blood condition, and historically- he died 5 years after the episode was set. So I would have had Victoria younger and childless because then it explains the blood disease passing through her children better. I know it's fiction, but if you're trying to create an explanation for something grounded in fact- maybe don't write in that she got it after she would have passed it on already...

[@HT-lr1rs]

I think the setting is best thing about this episode the setting and Queen Victoria. I think the exposition and the constant use if it to fix plot holes ruins the episode. I didnt even remember this was an episode till this video

[@nightowl8477]

The Monks' plan was to bite Queen Victoria and start an Empire of Wolves...but it does bite her?? So they won and the Doctor just laughs it off???

[@ThatGenericPyro]

Pretty sure it was never confirmed, The Doctor and Rose were mostly joking about the possibility. He also figured that she'd be more or less still human if only a small amount of it got in and that "a single cell could take a century to mature", so presumably it only would've been a problem for her descendants if anything. There *was* technically a follow-up called "Empire of the Wolf" starring the 11th Doctor back in 2010, but it was a choose your own adventure book and almost certainly not canon.

[@nightowl8477]

@@ThatGenericPyro - my point is that the Doctor considered the possibility of the Wolf winning, but literally doesn't care. So why did he bother stopping it the whole episode? Just a little inconsistent.

[@onyxrose4349]

The issue is that Harbo didn't provide the entire motivation. The werewolf kidnapped young boys so that it could bite them and then transfer its consciousness into them. The goal was to bite the Queen and then transfer into her, thus becoming the ruler of the British Empire. The Queen is bitten, but the werewolf dies before the mind transfer, thus she is a werewolf but is in control as herself, rather than the alien. And he has the benefit of future knowledge, where there is no Wolf Empire or plague of werewolves or anything, so all there is is the possibility that the royal family might be werewolves.

[@ANIMALFLYER456]

If the plan was to infect the Royal family, why attack her when she's old and had all her children? How would it pass down? She should have been younger in the episode for this to work

[@owenhargreaves5866]

Such a great episode! I know this is an unconventional opinion, however Series 2 is my favourite!

[@ShadowWingTronix]

I actively hate this episode. It's one thing for the Doctor to be excited about meeting werewolves, though why that's exciting given some of the threats he's dealt with in his travels baffles me, but when he seems to not care about people dying and all Rose cares about is her stupid bet, again--while people are dying--it seems just so out of character. The telescope thing doesn't make a lot of sense, I hadn't even thought about the other historical leaders they could have werewolfed, and the running gag about Rose being "naked" simply because she has short sleeves got old fast. It was nice that they finally dropped it...or maybe I'm remembering that wrong but I'm not going back to watch it.

[@mayotango1317]

Is no so out of character because Rose is so annoying childish in Series 2.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

@@mayotango1317 Yeah, and that's one of my problems with the character, but this dials it up too high even for her, and the Doctor gets dragged along with her.

[@ethanaxon6662]

Hey Harbo, love this series your doing. Do you think you’d ever give the same treatment to Torchwood and/ or the Sarah Jane adventures episodes in the future?

[@HarboWholmes]

Maybe Torchwood, not SJA

[@Joenah5]

I always liked this episode. A "D" seems rather harsh.

[@yabooooo2196]

When Doctor who try and do mythical monsters, they are always aliens, and well, they just seem kinda silly

[@Cole_E]

Rose especially makes me so mad in this episode but I actually found myself disliking the Doctor when I went back and watched this the other day. The fact that they laugh and joke about the werewolf after watching the Captain get ripped apart and that whole stupid bet... It's honestly disgusting so I find myself liking the fact that they have to pay for it come Doomsday.

[@theradioactiveplayer3461]

"It doesn't really make any sense" - Doctor Who - Werewolves - From space - Werewolves from space that can only be stopped by moonlight (???) - i.e. weak sunlight - The werewolves come from _a meteorite hitting the earth, which some peasant went to investigate_ I'm terribly sorry but I fail to see how magic monks make this any less realistic

[@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing]

"England's most well known monarchs" his was well aster unions of both Parliaments and Crowns is she distinctively english in this episode?

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

In defence of the resolution to the story, it's clear that Albert didn't think that Victoria would have gone to Torchwood house. I doubt he planned for his own death either. The plan would have been for himself to trap the beast in the house, using the telescope and the diamond to finish it off but his death meant that couldn't happen. The coincidence is used not for the resolution but to build tension in the story. The coincidence isn't that she was there and happened to have to diamond for it, we know why she was there and would probably be the only reason she would take that route. Chances are the diamond had long since been cut the right amount for the job, but Victoria herself didn't understand that and kept cutting it, which wouldn't negatively impact the diamond's ability to refract the light and "concentrate" it as the story implies. Ironically, I'd say you bringing up "Coincidences to get characters into trouble are great; coincidences to get them outof it are cheating" actually works in the story's favour. Again, the coincidence was to get the Queen into trouble, but the resolution works well within the confines of the story. Not saying it's a perfect story, but I think between many of the performances (Mr. Torchwood, Queen Elizabeth and The Doctor and Rose in particular) I think it's a pretty good episode. I see a lot of people seem to dislike it but I think the CGI is fine and it's a good monster of the week plot. I also like the out of place monks. Sue me.

[@katiegraceiris]

That was an excellent Danzig reference

[@princekrazie]

This wasn’t the first time a werewolf 🐺was killed in an observatory🤣

[@Galarticuno]

Trying to come up with a joke that fakes out the reader into thinking I disagree with the fact that Jamie is the best companion is hard

[@Alia-bc3rc]

lol, I got shout at when I said I prefer Idiot's Lantern over this. Sorry not sorry, but Tennant on moped always wins. They should've just cut out the flying colored monks and made the couple more questionable. Make a slow burning mystery like Image of the Fendahl.

[@jgr2637]

I think the part about Albert is true, but you should factor in Albert died young and unexpectedly so he never got to tell Victoria the plan

[@EshfulCookie]

Bit of an off-topic question, but where do you place the Christmas specials in episode order? Because I see lists constantly conflicting where they sit. The Christmas Invasion, for example. Do you view it as 1x14, 2x01 or just as "Christmas Special 2005"? (Personally I'm 2x01 because it's Tennant's first episode, but the rest I pretty much view as their own thing.)

[@HarboWholmes]

I count most of them as epilogues to the series they follow, since a lot of them are written that way, whether that be directly (Runaway Bride and Voyage of the Damned) or thematically (Doctor, Widow, Wardrobe and Last Christmas) Christmas Invasion - Christmas 2005 (It's more of a bridge between Series 1 and 2 than belonging to either) Runaway Bride - Series 2 Voyage of the Damned - Series 3 Next Doctor - Christmas 2008 End of Time - Christmas 2009/NYD 2010 Christmas Carol - Series 5 Doctor, Widow, Wardrobe - Series 6 The Snowmen - Series 7 Time of the Doctor - Christmas 2013 Last Christmas - Series 8 Husbands of River Song - Christmas 2015 Return of Doctor Mysterio - Christmas 2016 Twice Upon a Time - Series 10 Resolution - Series 11

[@BradLad56]

​@@HarboWholmesit's funny that the blu-ray sets put them at the beginning of each season starting with 2.

[@hernerwerzog9700]

I remember finding this episode quite weird at first. And that whole "I am not amused" thing I probably only funny to Britsish people. But I like the design of the Werewolf

[@sandraallen8832]

I found the whole “not amused” thing embarrassing and cringeworthy especially when Queen Victoria told them off about it 🥴

[@mahkimahkila6396]

"We are not amused" is a famous quote by Queen Victoria...

[@TulpechaidoplaysMC]

It really says a lot about Roger T Davies as a showrunner and writer when this is the worst episode of his era Especially seeing Chibnall’s era

[@intergalactic92]

This is one that looks good on paper. Classic monster, we all know what a werewolf is, and queen Victoria, we all know who she is, yet it doesn’t really work in practice. I think they were trying to be too clever for their own good. Trying to solve the mystery of Victoria's blood disease whilst also doing the koh-I-noor, and referencing the large number of assassination attempts is too much. It’s so convoluted that I failed to understand half of what went on the first time around. And why didn’t they just use silver bullets? I suppose that would have been too obvious. I liked the mistletoe. That was something new that was quite interesting. The diamond making the moonlight overpower the wolf was lame and contrived. It would have been better if the Doctor had worked out that hitting the wolf with focused moonlight would kill it and that he could use the telescope if he reversed the magnification, only its fixed in position so he needs something to refract the light, but luckily Victoria has a perfect diamond, so he bodges something together with that. Making him use someone else's plan takes away some of his agency. Doctor Who is at its best when it takes a familiar pop culture element and gives it a sci-fi twist. The problem it that they seem to have forgotten what show they are on. The Werewolf is just a werewolf, it’s the full cliche, there is no sci-fi twist to it other than the fact the virus came from space. Contrast this to the Vampires of Venice (and I give you a rare example of an instance where the Moffat era does something better than the RTD era in my opinion) where the titular vampires are an alien species, that through an imperfect disguise seem like vampires, and indeed can be killed by sunlight and have a plan revolved around draining blood from people, but are actually aliens that look nothing like the vampire myth. And as for the Doctor and Rose. Unpopular opinion but I don’t like them as a duo in season 2. I’ve realised in rewatching that Rose's relationship with nine was perfect, but it was not great with Ten. This episode is basically the first proper adventure with the two of them together (the previous episode had Rose possessed by Cassandra for most of it) and it highlights the problem. Rose is more interested in getting Queen Victoria to say we are not amused, because that’s all she knows about her, than taking an interest in what’s going on around them and it gets increasingly cringe inducing as the episode progresses. It’s fine when they are apart, but the second they are back together they morph into giggling school kids. She thinks it’s all a game and he does nothing to discourage this dangerous thinking. It’s just a poor episode which unfortunately is a pattern in season 2.

[@cristian-ionutapostol8018]

They did reveal that the werewolf was actually a sentient virus, hence why it would turn the queen and the royal family.

[@BambiTrout]

Tbh I kind of forget Tooth and Claw exists. The only thing I really remember it for, is the fact that I always forget about it. It's just meh.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Only character I felt for was the sergeant. His death sounded like utter and complete agony.

[@Jaeden_Phoenix]

Fun Episode Tho

[@isramubashar1227]

I actually really liked this episode, because of how the presentation of the werewolf differs from other portrayals of werewolves in media and the acting But I see what you mean

[@NintenRob]

I would personally rank Tooth and Claw much higher then Fear Her.

[@imadeadmeme9429]

Are we in Scotland!!??

[@megmcguireme]

I love this episode. It was fun, and I like the supporting cast. I always found the werewolf in human form super creepy

[@MarkusDarkscribe]

I agree about the monks. I never though they belong in Victorian Britain.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

Christianity had warrior monks, the Knights Templar being the most well known example. And the brethren would have needed to practice martial arts to be able to keep each new host imprisoned while the infection progresses. There's probably a stage of this process in which the new host has more-than-human strength, but still retains enough of their original personality to want to escape. They certainly can't shoot a host that tries to break loose, so learning the best techniques to smack one into submission, even foreign techniques, could have been their best means of getting it back in its cage.

[@erinella]

Ace is my favourite classic who companion but I absolutely adore Jamie too so the James McCrimmon reference made me squee when I finally caught it (I didn't catch it as a kid because I was only seven when it aired and was more focused on the werewolf).

[@karenhall4645]

Pauline Collins has actually played on Doctor Who before on the Second Doctor story The Faceless Ones.

[@sterlingarcher9703]

I still enjoyed this episode and ANYTHING from the RTD era is still a million times better than any of the garbage Chibnall era..

[@snipers_nightmare]

oh look it’s the airbenders 1:13

[@MaxleonoUEFN]

When i was a kid i was terrifed of this episode, i couldn't watch it by myself, the monks were super scary for me. Now it's one of my favourite episodes, the same with the mommy one.

[@RealBadGaming52]

its a guilty pleasure, watch it every halloween , and i LOVE This Episode and whole concept and Ideas, i would like to see a SteamPunk Space Empire run by Where wolves. If it been in a Dr WHo comic please tell me. Alos the music is AWSOME in it, and the seane with the wolf transforming infront of rose is just a treat for the eyes.

[@triplejazzmusicisall1883]

this is where Rose and Ten's smugness and self-importance became hard to watch, especially watching Rose turning into Ms Superior getting even worse in an otherwise excellent the Impossible Planet. Fortunately they were to revert back to the likeable characters they had been but in this episode the jokes were not funny just childish and plain annoying.

[@alexfirefly1956]

I actually don't have a problem with this episode. Only gripe I have wth it are the Kung Fu monks. Would have been more interesting if they had been like normal but very ruthless and determined monks infiltrating the estate with inquisition and brutality. Would have made them even more creepy.

[@Fairly-odd-kel]

Apart from the weird monk scene at the beginning, I liked this episode, its setting was refreshing and the dinner table scene was poignant, although Rose was a bit tiresome with her trying to get Victoria to say that misquote at very dodgy times

[@Theultimateginger]

I loved this episode when I first saw it I thought it was great, granted I’d been in hospital for several days and was just looking forward to watching my favorite show 😂

[@RPGmodsFan]

I AM NOT AMUSED... OK, I just had to say that... Oh WOW! Thanks. Your video exemplifies GOOD writing versus BAD writing. All the points you made on the "Tooth and Claw" episode were all valid. But I never noticed them till your video. Where as Chris Chibnall's Doctor Who is just plain BAD writing, that it stands out and his mistakes have no where to hide.

[@frazzlesreviews5379]

Dammit Harbo I used to really like this episode but you make such good valid points. Next you’ll be telling me the vest story ever: The Curse of Fenric isn’t very good.

[@ig_4220]

I was always iffy on this episode, too many people got used as meat shields and the Doctor never really seemed pissed off enough about it for the "everyone's important" mentality he tends to operate on in other episodes. Also they kept reusing that one single damn piece of swelling tension music four or five times until I almost want to mute the whole thing.

[@CutifulKaity]

I’ve never been a big fan of this episode, so I usually end up skipping it when rewatching the series. It just seems so disconnected from the rest of the series and I can’t help but find it so boring and a drag to watch. Not worst but not the best. Definitely not amused!

[@sandraallen8832]

You.......skip......episodes....? 🙀😸

[@10thdoctor15]

You've said why you don't like Tooth and Claw, but I've never felt any of that. I really like the episode, certainly not the worst of Series 2, better than episodes 1, 7, 8, 10 and 11 (and joint with 4).

[@IslaDrummond]

Tooth and Claw came out on your birthday? Fear her came out on mine 😅

[@sophievinall8416]

Don't hate on Sheffield, it's a great place

[@Shanmarie85]

You obviously went in to this episode with a bias. It was a good episode. And easy to follow.

[@hgwsavage]

I got Journeys End on my birthday

[@УрошКалиниченко]

This was the first episode of doctor who I've ever seen. I liked it, but that might be a reason why :)

[@jleigh329]

Yeah I agree with you @HarboWholmes this episode is pretty forgettable to me, and a little bit too "random" for my taste. Even for "Doctor Who". Not to mention over the years I have found this episode to be quite boring and I also skip it too. The only thing I really liked about this episode was Rose's outfit and that's about it. Although I did also like the Werewolf idea, but yeah, it was pretty terribly executed though (at least in my opinion). So I also agree with you on that and pretty much everything you said in this video. Also it was a nice change of pace to have a video of yours where you not praising every single episode you talk about. I respect that. Also on a side note: I actually liked "New Earth", I think it's a "fun/funny" episode! I would always rather re-watch that episode over than "Tooth and Claw". #sorrynotsorry

[@seeaaannnn]

That whole blood condition thing being passed down hereditarile here makes no sense because by the 1870's, all of Victoria's children would have been born so how could she pass it on?

[@Crabcityrocker92]

1:48 I like Ian Dury & The Blockheads.

[@keelanbarron928]

2:17 so by that logic of jamie being "the best", you think that he is better then Sarah jane smith.

[@seangolding3107]

so if the the werewolf is an alien then how did he become one

[@mahkimahkila6396]

As a Roma gypsy, I'm rather insulted you would speak of fellow Gypsy Ian Dury in such manner

[@-LamiaSage-]

It's one of my least favourite episodes of the 10th-doctor era

[@miloleesley563]

I like this ep 7.5/ 10

[@mrsscreamgirl5332]

Is it absolutely silly? yes do I love it because it's silly nonsense with alien werwolfs? yes did I force my mom to watch it with me and that's why she thinks Doctor Who is this really weird show only nerds and british peole like? yes

[@LateNightHalo]

I loved this episode:(

[@kanderson772]

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