That Time McDonald’s Made Anti-Hedgehog Ice Cream

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Original Article:
www.factfiend.com/time-mcdonal...
Sources:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sh...
metro.co.uk/2006/09/01/hedgeh...
Images:
Hedgehog,
Gibe, CC BY-SA 3.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/b..., via Wikimedia Commons
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
I.V. Korneev, Leningrad Zoo, Attribution, via Wikimedia Commons
Pueri Michał Klimont, CC BY-SA 3.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/..., via Wikimedia Commons
McDonalds,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonal...
McFlurry,
Faruk Ateş from San Francisco, USA, CC BY 2.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/..., via Wikimedia Commons
Lid,
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Ronald McDonald,
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Clips:
Street Fighter X Tekken (2012),
• SFXT - Sagat Tiger Gen...
Pigeon Thug Life (2014),
• Pigeon Thug Life
Music:
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"Two Finger Johnny" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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[@seanbenjaminlong3870]

Do a video rant about star wars the Last jedi

[@FactFiend]

If there’s one thing there’s enough of on KZbin it’s white guys with shit hair giving their opinion on that movie. So no. Karl.

[@nibblitman]

I don’t care if you have the most beautiful hair on Earth I’ve seen/heard more than enough about that movie to last a lifetime.

[@randomdan1648]

Pin of No

[@ryanb5127]

@@FactFiend I feel like if you were to do a rant on it you would find a way to make it an exclusively positive rant just to contradict the crybabies.

[@sev1120]

​@@ryanb5127I'd pay to see Karl just list off good things about films

[@DarkKnightBatman420]

Nothing we can do about people who litter out of their cars but I do love the videos of people on motorcycles who retrieve the thrown trash and ride up alongside the offending vehicle/person and throw it back at them.

[@Planag7]

Hell yes lol

[@Tkon321]

Social justice bikers!

[@christiandidonna8808]

​@@RedOnly if i was MC Donaldson just make the process be, put a lid on container mix take it off then serve without a lid and if ya really feel like keeping waste products down then ya make the lid out of meddle since peaple arnt going to be useing it and you could just clean it .

[@thepenguin9]

@@RedOnly I was wondering why they didn't clip the spoons into the mixing machine anymore. Also duuuuude i low-key miss the mcflurry tops

[@nibblitman]

Literally the best thing to see some nice laser guided instant karma.

[@jacobcurliss9687]

Pigeons are a domesticated bird that we sort of abandoned. I dont know how many places did this but we used to build pigeon towers for them as a good source of fertilizer and the occasional bird for dinner. I think this might be why they arent so great at making nests.

[@musewolfman]

They're descended from cliff-dwelling birds, and basically, the premise of their "nests" is to keep the egg from rolling away. They don't need a complex structure because they already have a solid base to sit on. Mourning doves build similar nests, and are not domesticated birds.

[@Lyander25]

2:46 I have never understood going out of one's way to make someone's job harder-- "it's their job to clean up!" is an immediate red flag when it comes to dating or making new friends.

[@JenniAndyMcLaren]

I live in Scotland and the ones I go to have changed the design so there is no lid but the cardboard folds down a little to act like one. So it's just a big cardboard tub. Sometimes they don't fold the top down either which would mean the hedgehogs would be able to get out of them more easily :)

[@carltonmonarch1647]

"This straw, if you choose to use it, will self-destruct in 10 seconds."

[@maquez650]

In the Netherlands they once did a survey and found out that the cheap bellpeppers where usually not packaged while organic bell peppers where usually packaged in plastic......

[@dantemoose420]

My dog (a goldie) befriended a hedgehog when I lived in Germany. When we'd go for his walks, he'd stop at its bush, and it would come waddling out to say hi. He occasionally picked it up and carried the hedgie around with us, but was always gentle, and always put em back at their bush before we left.

[@LesBaronessPurdue]

Holy shit, how the hell is this just so goddamn WHOLESOME?? ...I fucking love it.

[@derekstein6193]

The next Disney animated film, The Hedgehog and the Hound.

[@Zom13y]

With the whole straw debate I don’t understand why most soft drinks don’t come with those sippie cup lids like you get on coffee. Like you’re going to need a lid regardless why not make it the primary method for drinking as well?

[@dantemoose420]

That would be amazeballs and I want it. Gimme my tipple toppies!!

[@lyntonfleming]

Honestly I want a sippy cup on everything. Just makes things so much easier.

[@christianstonecipher1547]

But then they couldn't sell the 32+ oz cups because I don't know about you but I don't trust those lids enough to keep that much liquid in. Not to mention the fact that it is probably safer to give out cups with straws simply for the people who are drinking from their soft drinks while driving. (To be clear, the first argument was mostly sarcastic in that people rarely really need a 32+ oz cup, the second argument was an actual argument).

[@Zom13y]

@@christianstonecipher1547 I mean people seem to mange Starbucks coffee cups just fine in the cars. I also understand that straws are very important for individuals with physical disabilities that make drinking harder without the use of a straw. So my suggestion is that straws would be available upon request with the sippie cup lids being the default. Also apparently Starbucks has a 30oz cup with a sippie lid.

[@AudreyYun]

They have those in Korea

[@NitroIndigo]

That comment about Dr. Robotnik coming up with hedgehog-killing lids reminds me of those awful Sonic McDonald's toy adverts from south Asia.

[@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749]

ShAdOw BaSkEtBaLL

[@SoNextJenn]

Sonic Skateboard!

[@chaoschronicler3211]

ex-janitor for a mall food court, I had some karen tell her child that it was my job to clean their table of trash. said table had four trays of trash, smeared ketchup, and mustard all over the seat.

[@musewolfman]

Oh, wow. That's truly screwed up.

[@WaltonSauce]

I got woke up at 2am by my dog because my neighbours were crying in their garden. They thought there was an injured animal, turns out it was 2 hedgehogs mating. One of said neighbours was on the phone to the fire brigade asking for help!

[@SwervingLemon]

Flash back to Gus shouting "You have a Z-axis! Use it!"

[@SomeStaleBread]

I think that was my favourite second bit you've done! "fuck you, I used to be a dinosaur" is the best thing I've ever heard

[@durlead5103]

I once got out of my front door to go to school and told my mom how I would love to have some fall-themed decoration just like the little ceramic hedgehogs our neighbor had, looked around for a sec and then said: "just like that one!", while pointing behind my waveboard laying besides the wall. There was a live hedgehog, sleeping next to our door on the 4th floor! It climed the whole 66 stairs while taking a dump on every other door besides ours! afterwards we called the janitor and he took it outside in a box.

[@KAGdesignsDOTnet]

2 hedgehogs were scrambling about behind the bins and I worried my cat had got stuck or something - moved the bin to find them super delighted to have been disturbed with a phone light shining in their faces. Never had hedgehogs in the garden again - must've got a crap review on their version of trip advisor

[@DiviNazuphus]

A lot of stuff doesn't actually need to be recyclable, it just needs to be bio-degradable. You pointed out the paper straws can't be recycled but they also break down very quickly because they are just paper in the end. Still an overall win despite them being absolute shit to use.

[@ninjabiscuit1095]

I used to see hedgehogs all the time when I worked in a restaurant and walked home through a park each night after my shift finished, always made me smile, no matter how many I saw.

[@pinknfloofy4972]

Glad there’s finally a video of this, I love the save the sonic movement

[@rateeightx]

Funny story about hedgehogs, When my dad first saw a Hedgehog he was in the Czech Republic, And he asked a Czech friend what it was, And the friend said it's called a "Ježek", The Czech word for Hedgehog, Then asked what they're called in English, And my dad said something along the lines of "No idea, I've never seen one before in my life".

[@Swift96]

This could've easily been a "How Not to Do Business"

[@riickdefiile6565]

Those seem to be reserved for personal channel business rather than articles he's written himself and have them discussed in a conversation with a friend setting

[@Dornul]

After the dead hedgehog story, and the hamster. What about the people that took a joke picture with a colleague they thought had fallen asleep in the office. Turned out he had died.

[@Iffem]

gettin' all Weekend At Bernie's up in here

[@TheTbenvick]

I hate, hate people who throw food wrappers out the windows of a vehicle. I really noticed it now that I've moved back to the country, the amount of random garbage in the ditch is crazy, I have to go once a month to pick up all the garbage. I mean, how hard is it to throw it out when you get to where you are going???

[@zebnemma]

Yep people that throw garbage out of their cars is the laziest people in existence. Even more lazy than the people that are walking and throwing trash on the ground. The one walking is lazy for not carrying their trash 20- 100 meters max to a suitable bin or putting it in their pocket in the meantime. The ones in cars tho.. Can just put the trash aside and let the car carry it for them. What is the logic exactly? What possible reason could they have to doing that? If they are afraid that they car is gonna messy then don't eat in your car in the first place. Maybe they are too lazy to take the trash away when they arrive at their destination and just let the trash sit there for all eternity and they don't want that? Either way you are the epitome of trash person for doing any of this, regardless of your weird reasons. I've seen cars that are filled with trash from probably months ago if not years. So people this messy/lazy exist. But atleast they aren't throwing it out into nature so there's that.

[@LillFluffPotato]

In Denmark they did change the McFlurry. They removed the lid, and made lips that fold in instead. So the packaging is all one cardboard tube, with foldy inny bits at the top.

[@marsrevolutionary]

15:04 Small prey have adapted to waiting for vehicles to approach before leaving cover to cross the road. It's more likely that the bird will be struck by the vehicle than the prey getting run over. The odds are in favor of the prey that crosses during traffic.

[@timharrod]

Lisa Simpson: "I know all those words, yet that title is meaningless"

[@corgano6068]

The lids actually serve a purpose. Mixing the mcflurry can be very messy, and that lid shape holds the mnm's or bits in. They COULD design it to have a larger hole, but getting rid of it entirely will make it harder to prepare.

[@KrissFliss]

Here in Norway they have removed it.

[@Hunterdog]

one day I was working outside returning shopping carts to the store, and there was a pigeon hanging out by the exit under the roof/awning. at first we thought it was injured or something was wrong with them, until someone shooed it away and it got attacked by what I believe was a hawk (I don't know birds well enough to be sure though). luckily it dove under a car parked in the fire lane, and returned to the original spot by the exit. when customers would ask about it afterwards, I would tell them why it wasn't flying away, but sometimes people would still try to make it leave if I wasn't there. hopefully the pigeon got to live a full life after that rough day

[@Segafishy]

Used to love it when I had a paper round as a kid as they'd still be out scurrying about and sometimes you could almost pet them.

[@victorvale1015]

Yeah I volunteer in a hedgehog rescue and they are super easy to pick up with gloves because they just freeze and roll up, so you just flip them over onto their back and they become a prickly bowling ball😭😭

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

First I've heard of the McFlurry...says something about how long it's been since I ate McD's. At this point, I'd have to be starving, and no other food available at all. McDonald's stopped making tasty food decades ago. To be honest, it's gotten difficult to find a good hamburger---the popular places either sell low-grade meat, like McD's and Wendy's, or overcook it to the point all fat has disappeared. McDonald's, as a company, has sucked for a very, very long time. Since their food went to awful, I can't understand why they're still so successful. Is it just that a lot of people have barely functioning tastebuds?

[@TowanTalks]

For reference the lid was to stop it causing a mess when flurrying the flurry with the blender spoon.

[@seratheeducatedfeline4227]

On the subject of pigeons, my mum’s a rail guard and she’s noticed that not only will pigeons travel on the trains but they’ll regularly take the same routes (as in pigeons will get on and off at specific stations, pretty much every shift). And you can’t even chase the little buggers off, because they’ll just trot down the platform and get on another carriage.

[@CorvieClearmoon]

Speaking of birds who don't know how to handle cars... My SO and I were driving on the west coast of Canada and came up on this vulture in the middle of the road. Instead of hopping to the side or flying up, it ran the same direction we were headed. Then it started flying in the direction we were driving. It happened for a good 30 meters and we were worried that this bird was just too stupid to realize that it had all this space around and refused to use it. Finally it got the hint and fly off to the side. Birds make me wonder how they have survived as long as they have.

[@Kattlarv]

I have this quite a lot with my lizard tbh. It has no eyelids, so eyes always open. And sometimes it just... lies there, all Peter Griffin. And I have to poke it to be sure its even alive.

[@stephaniec9539]

Yay for hedgehogs! Plastic is so horrible for recycling.. especially if its not cleaned out

[@maxhepburn4143]

A law should be passed to say if you use plastic things like bags or straws, etc, they should only be made from plastic that is recyclable. That or make paper bags a bit thicker and wider and no more plastic bags.

[@rgood8775]

I work I Canadian McDonald's in maintenance the stuff that people throw out is insane I had to pick up somebody's shitty underwear once

[@drakas110]

half full schooner of beer left in the garden, it was nere a pub

[@rgood8775]

@@drakas110 just found a pregnancy test in the washroom

[@dansmith7009]

So, litter has pretty much always been a business problem. I remember reading that back in the 60’s when Coca Cola switched from glass bottles with a deposit to recycle to plastic bottles, they saved $0.019 per bottle, BUT local governments suddenly had to pay more people to pickup trash and empty public trash cans more, and pay for more landfills to be built, and so it cost local governments an average of $0.03 per bottle. And the industry response to this was to blame the consumer for being litter bugs. Even the famous ad with the Italian guy in Indian-face with the single tear was part of a PR campaign to shift blame. Same thing happened back in the 1930’s when cars started hitting people in residential blocks, and instead of doing what many European cities are doing now and having parking garages and making people walk the last few blocks, with many streets made pedestrians only, they started a campaign to blame jaywalkers, when “jay” was an epithet about uneducated ignorant country folk that would start a fight. It’s hard for me to see plastic bottles as anything other than a way to steal taxpayer money, it cuts cost for the business by sticking government with a bigger bill.

[@STE6677]

The worse thing is hedgehogs are lactose intolerant so not only was they dieing but shitting them self at the same time.

[@KrissFliss]

Here in Norway the plastic top is gone from the McFlurry's

[@CAP198462]

Actually Karl, crazy story. I was driving on the motorway and a bird flew into the wing mirror of my car and spun off like a top into the windscreen of the car behind me. It hit their windscreen and popped like a balloon. Things you never thought would happen, right?

[@djpandaburr230]

After the Sagat reference, was sure Karl was gonna say "The answer lies... in the heart of battle." Lol

[@generalmakhnovia2609]

As someone who works at McDonald’s now theres nothing more soul crushing then the people who leave their trays on the tables for the DA people to pick up because they’re the same people who complain about every small thing

[@thisslime2109]

When they were talking about people thinking animals like hamsters were dead but really hypernating, This actually happened to my tortoise. We let our tortoise, Shelby, wonder around the house, so sometimes we find her in awkward places where it's warm just perfectly still. we would tap her to see if she's still live, scared us each time. Luckily she is still kicking.

[@SkyReaperOne]

I don't think the point of paper straws is to recycle them, I think it's so they can simply decompose easier. Whether or not these straws are actually better for the environment is still up for debate though.

[@mynameischris378]

The "solution" that McDonalds came up with for the mcflurry lids is like a Monkeys Paw. You got your wish, but now everything is worse

[@M4TCH3SM4L0N3]

That's so true; be careful about what boon you ask your corporate overlords for.

[@PrismaticSparx]

I beleive the lids were there for the machine that mixes the McFlurry topping and icecream, as is done in America. However, for some reason they dont bother mixing the toppings into the icecream in the UK. This is also why they came with that weird spoon. That attached to the mixing machine

[@joelatkinson4967]

Paper is an infinite resource if we kept planting trees. On that note established titles is great

[@ghoulishtoast1241]

It's not that they dont care about nests (pigeons) it's that they have terrible survival instincts because we domesticated them and then discarded them when they stopped being useful. We just let the poor defenceless birds who now rely on us for survival to just do that.

[@Canalman]

I worked in the main dining area in a macdonalds, and my favourite part of the job was taking the bins out because it meant I got to go outside and breathe fresh air and get away from the customers. I was the only one who worked on the lobby floor there and it made me realise how lazy people can be. There was mess everywhere- I get it was my job to clean it all up, but my God it was painful. It was terrible. Thank God I'm not there anymore.

[@kevinsettels4450]

I actually saved a hedgehog from a mcflurry attack once.

[@revan0890]

You guys should check out the book Snakes in business suites. It talks about how corporations deliberately try to hire psychopaths because they have no qualms about morally dubious decisions.

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

I found a dead bunny under a pallet in my yard once, buried it, then like 2 weeks later, find another. Small animals just drop dead apparently.

[@creepycraiyons3519]

Alright. I couldn’t get away from THAT thought provoking Title Card….

[@kinonyabi5736]

I aspire to the level of no f^cks given pigeons have

[@M4TCH3SM4L0N3]

"When God made me - he was just showing off" Nice.

[@jbrone1241]

Mcdonalds gives shitty paper straws in a giant plastic cup in the states. Worst of both worlds

[@MrDanJB85]

I'm against capital punishment in almost all circumstances, but I think throwing litter from a car might be the single exception. Everyone knows it's wrong and there isn't even the flimsy excuse of the inconvenience of carrying it.

[@iainburgess8577]

The lid was & is completely unnecessary for customers; it's there to contain any possible mess during making & mixing. Worked at Macca's when they brought them in here (Oz); just a blind obvious part of making one. Macca's saying no is literally them calculating extra trash cost, at best.

[@dcbandit]

I encountered a zombie pidgeon once, it was missing half its skull cap, its brain exposed to the air, and was still alive, just braindead. I think a parasite was controlling it, because it strode up to me and just pecked at nothing on the ground. Creepiest thing I'd ever seen.

[@christiandidonna8808]

okay thats really messed up but it also sound like a little mettle

[@rmo9808]

You should look up zombie deer on here. It looks like it got hit by some farm equipment. It was just strolling around nonchalantly.

[@NitroIndigo]

Reminds me of Mike the headless chicken.

[@ecurps1]

Frozen hedgehog ran out of Rings.

[@jimsjutebox2495]

Working at McDonald’s I can say that yes the lid is useless for the customer the workers need it to keep the ice cream from flying out while mixing it all up in the McFlurry machine

[@okay1582]

The lid is necessary during mixing of the ingredients but I wonder if they could just use like one and give people McFlurry with no lid

[@mattday2656]

just make hedgehogs lives easier, screw rotten ronnies

[@procow2274]

I think i got this recommended because my phone heard peter Griffin say mcflurry 5 minutes ago

[@kendallcharleswell8489]

I love hedgehogs more than McDonald's, so this story made me sad. Also, Wendy's is better.

[@idontwanttopickone]

Fun fact: Most hedgehogs don't roll up when threatened anymore, because the ones that do are far more likely to get run over by cars.

[@szeth5287]

Here’s something you need to see. Look up “a hedgehog screaming at the ground”. You’re welcome

[@peterrintup2515]

I work nightshift and 2 days ago I was sitting outside having a couple of drinks and a hedgehog just came mosying over it was the first time I have seen one in years

[@randomdan1648]

Luckily the issue with products veinf sold in plastic bags is being minimised. In my local supermarket they have an option beside the product if u want to buy it without plastic protection for the likes of fruit and veg, unfortunately, people are complaining about this despite the bagless option being cheaper than the bag option lmao.

[@---l---]

RIP Lieutenant Bristles

[@HighiamDave]

I love this channel they really are good ppl and thats rare on the internet.

[@michaelreeve-fowkes7100]

I do wonder if the reason they were so adamant on the lid was due to the patent requirements of the mcflurry. They had that odd spoon included so it may have been required for that reason. Not sure. Anyone who knows patent law want to look into it?

[@spots_knight]

in defense of the 'soulless corporation' the lids may not be needed/used by the customers. However, the lids do serve a purpose. When mixing the mcFlurry with the spoon, the ice cream rises up and if the lid were not there, it would splatter everywhere. The only option they would have to is to put the lid on and then throw it away before giving it to the customer (which would still be a waste and not save them any money) OR they put less in the cup. If they put less in the cup customers would complain even more.

[@damionalexander100]

Or just do a bigger cup.

[@TheKoriKasai]

I'm sure someone else has commented this, and my experience is from an American McDonald's not a British ones, but as someone who worked for American McDonald's, the lids were for when you mixed the flurries so the ice cream didn't fly everywhere. Not that they always worked as the kids didn't want to stay on either. However a mix of my last point and the fact the holes on top were large enough that a thin wristed person could use them as an unsightly bracelet, I don't think the American version of the lids would have the same issue. Which is still baffling because why not use this version of lids everywhere so not only is less plastic being used (very thin in addition to my previous points) but also you wouldn't have to worry about the hedgehog pandemic anymore of they can escape. But what do I know, I'm just a non-corperate American.

[@nikikeya939]

My Aunt once hit an owl, it had been in a dive to hunt and she just broadsided it with the car.

[@handsomesonofagun]

Love most of your videos. Keep up the hard work team!

[@Zaalpe]

I ran passed a dead fox for weeks once. Whenever I went out I would wonder if someone had picked it up but no one ever did even thought it was in the middle of the sidewalk. So I got to see that one timelapse video in real time.

[@joelkissela4661]

thinking of birds struck by cars i’ve hit three flying animals :(( but i’ve gotta say i’m surprised the pheasant didn’t come through the windshield because he hit dead center on it.

[@sulbert0445]

My best hedgehog story is the time I got pissed, saw one out side me bedroom window and decided to go and say hello to it

[@unauthorizedmonster648]

the lids are missing off the mcflurries in my area and it makes me happy

[@---l---]

Doves also make terrible nests. We had some build nests in front of their coup.

[@stitches1110]

The cleaning to office job analogy doesn’t quite work, though I do agree with the ultimate point. While one could say that it is the job of the worker to correct the reports that are getting sent his way, the fact of the matter is that the one who initially wrote it also had the job of ensuring it was done correctly. Where this fails is that a customer doesn’t have that same obligation to clean up after themselves, at least when you take morals out of the equation.

[@ca13bk96]

Literally afew days ago the hamsters I bought my daughter died. We had 2, both sisters. One ended up eating the other despite the fact they had food in the cage. Hamsters are nightmares

[@christiandidonna8808]

saw peaple in here saying you have to put the lid on too mix it couldnt you just mix it then take the lid off

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

Our oldest cat, in the days before he died, managed to convince my wife that he was dead twice. Lying in our bed, not moving, and apparently breathing so shallowly that she couldn't tell. I nudged him, he put his head up to see why he was being disturbed. When he finally kicked off, I didn't find out until I'd been up for a few hours. Heh. Made our son come dig a hole, because neither of us are in good shape for such work. Better him than me...when our cats die, I can barely deal with moving them, not even touching them...I have trouble understanding societies where the family does things with their dead family members, cleaning them, dressing them in different clothes, etc. When I was in the navy, I got stuck on funeral detail for some months--it sucked to carry dead strangers' coffins. Why can't they just get volunteers for such things?

[@christophhanke6627]

Best thing I saw that was presented in a Bio lecture at Uni was that in an east asian country they sell coke cans sealed in plastic. Like how USELESS can packages be???

[@harrietyounger6118]

When my hamster died I kept his little body in a box with the lid off. I also put him in a flower pot but put him near the top. I was really scared I might have been wrong thinking he was dead and actually kill him.

[@SomeOne-ex7hk]

So confusing! Sure it may have an upfront cost to change the system to make the lids just a bit smaller. But you get money back over the long run with that slightly less material. You earn SO MUCH MORE in free marketing and headlines for doing a good thing. Its a SUPER WIN. Who is their marketing person? Fire them!

[@Darxide23]

No hedgehogs in the Americas. Sadness.

[@RatedX29]

No one tell Dr. Robotnik about this

[@KB-nn1rm]

They are scared of edgy the hegdey

[@itzvictoryy3866]

I work in a grocery store here in the US and theres a big well its your job mentality here and I hate it. If everyone spent two years doing customer service in highschool this world would be so much better.

[@ivanwilliams7413]

Robotnik tried suggesting chili cheese dog flavor after the first few wrongly killed hedgehogs.

[@ProWeltfrieden]

I think THIS video has my favourite title from fact fiend

[@harrietyounger6118]

Hedgehogs are an endangered species. Poor hedgehogs.

[@aaronhaworth4100]

Omfg! Hedgehog genocide! Lmfao!

[@timothygeorge335]

Sooo what i have taken away from this is that Ronald Mcdonald is an xbox fan

[@loopsmybrother6156]

What about the cardboard tub having flaps to fold over the top like Chinese containers but with a gap for the spoon

[@FixerUK]

Or did the dead hedgehog not freeze from over indulging on McFlurry.