That Time Valve Cancelled Day of Defeat: Source.

[@HAV0X_]

its like day of defeat: condition zero

[@ESCalation]

ufff haha

[@cambreaKer]

except cs condition zero got some new features unlike the original dod:s

[@AlphaGarg]

@@cambreaKer and a singleplayer campaign as well

[@C.A._Old]

Best Game Ever. Now These Days Still Alives. ! +1 One Day ! DOD 2 ! +1 1

[@veRGe02]

I wish Valve didn't abandon Day of Defeat. Was one of my favorite games.

[@omar90s91]

You can still play it

[@mrspliffie8906]

need Day of Defeat: Global Offensive now or im gonna riot

[@Slimpicken]

You know someone could make a mod. Essentially refabricating graphics. Animations. Maps. If we can do it with half life 2 why not day of defeat ?

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

@@mrspliffie8906 How did the riot work out?

[@mrspliffie8906]

@@WhattAreYouSaying 12 dead, 37 injured

[@coronaradiata3065]

Just started playing Day of Defeat Source for the first time, and it's really awesome. Seriously a shame that Valve abandoned the DoD franchise.

[@Lulzalex]

I had no idea about this! Reminds me of "Team Fortress 2" as that military goldsrc bogus thing they had in mind before TF2 became a thing. So cool, thanks for the video

[@ESCalation]

you are welcome, glad you like it!

[@IsmailofeRegime]

In fairness to Valve, at least the scrapped version of TF2 would have been something unique, as opposed to a lazy transfer of an existing game onto the Source engine.

[@1oneguythat]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

[@1oneguythat]

THIS

[@Tom-fe9jw]

I remember seeing a "leaked" screenshot from a 2004 website where it was a screenshot of the spawn of Anzio with some different textures on the walls and rows of soldiers in the boats with original Goldsrc DOD models. Sadly, I can't find it anywhere. Holy shit, I just saw the gameplay footage... that is really weird.... Is the full gameplay footage up for download?

[@simosimouk]

I remember being on the DoD forums at the time and seeing this for the first time. The changes looked amazing....even with the same models 🤩

[@iVETAnsolini]

I wish they would make a new one... so sad. I’ve played so many hours of Source and the Original. So many sleepless nights playing avalanche over and over again. So fun

[@kill3stdayz910]

dod_convoy was my poison... Nothing beats a hail mary grenade to interrupt the triple-cap in the middle of the bridge!

[@CraziiDago]

colmar for me

[@Kaptain8964]

I just started the game yesterday, it is amazing! I'm all about source games, plus gldsource! Thank you ESCalation!

[@TheEngieTF2]

Ah yes, just like canceling Ricochet: Source

[@Mei-wk5mt]

i love watching your videos, its always interesting to see unfinished old valve games such a shame that you dont have a bigger audience

[@ESCalation]

Thank you! Glad to hear you like my work! I agree, but over time more people will come :)

[@ethanbates3484]

Wish they had a proper Steam workshop for DODS. Recently I tried downloading skins and sounds the traditional way and it worked only half the time.

[@Jasen-M74]

Good video. Great game. Used to play DOD as a member of $ad Clan. Lots of fun. Shout out to any old members! Thanks for the vid. You sound Sri Lankan btw. All the best. J.

[@NS-qj8xj]

Still play this game. There's a solid Aus/NZ group that plays every weekend. Good old school fun.

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

I play on the Devil-Dogs 24/7 Omaha server, almost every day. Have been doing that for over a decade now. Come and join us!

[@cotka1797]

In my opinion, there is still a place for shooters like DoD in modern gaming era (look at Insurgency and Day of Infamy) . Maybe it doesn't fit into Valve monetizing policy or they just aren't interested in it, but I'm glad there are still some servers in the game and I'm sad that chances for new DoD game are nearly zero. However, thank you for such an interesting video! I didn't know about such version of the game until I've watched it

[@HaraldQuake]

We need Day of Defeat 2: Source 2

[@Slimpicken]

Y e s

[@pt8306]

CSGO and Dota players: "We don't get enough updates" TF2 Players: "HAHAHAHAHA hold my crits, CSGO and DOTA players" DOD Players: "HAHAHA TF2 players hold my machinegun"

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

CS:GO, TF2 & Dota 2 are trash games. Why? Because, microtransactions.

[@pt8306]

@@user-s9eu8ce9fw Oh I beg to differ. CS:GO was garbage long before microtransactions. CS has always just fundamentally been a badly designed videogame. Even since 1.6

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

@@pt8306 It's true that the franchiese have had bad game designs that haven't been changed. Never got into counter-strike that much because of it. However the current counter-strike is so much worse now then ever which is a shame for such an iconic game for pc gaming.

[@pt8306]

@@user-s9eu8ce9fw Maybe, but honestly, if the game was really good, I could handle the microtransactions. They could be a lot more egregious. TF2's ones are worse because they have gameplay effects (you can get weapons in other ways, but buying them is by far the easiest). The big issue is CS just isn't worth playing normally, and having loot boxes in it are just that extra offensive slap in the face by a company who wants a new set of skins every month but doesn't want to fix the fundamental flaws of one of the most broken videogames that exists.

[@DeadAimize]

@@pt8306 buying weapons in tf2 is the most stupid thing you can do (and nobody does). you start out with the stock loadouts and get used to them first. by playing you get random weapon drops so you can always try out a new weapon without being overwhelmed (achievements also unlock weapons). cs "loot boxes" only contain skins that dont change gameplay in any way. playing as you call it "normally" is the same as if you where to open "loot boxes"

[@dinofeakentertainment3718]

Very informative video! Now I understand why Day of Defeat: Source lacked so much content compared to the original GoldSrc mod and retail version. I would agree that this Day of Defeat: Source would have been incredibly disappointing due to the lack of graphical improvement and cut content. As someone who played Half-Life: Source and the original Day of Defeat, I'd assume that the engine transition between GoldSrc and Source would have introduced many problems for the Source port of Day of Defeat. I'm glad Valve listened to their community and cancelled this lazy version, but It's sad that old content was lost when Day of Defeat was remade. I still have no idea what Valve was thinking when they made the decision to remove the British army and German paratroopers from Day of Defeat: Source, but I guess Valve was more focused on "efficiency" as you say. Funny enough, there is a Source game I play called Dino D-Day that reuses sounds from Day of Defeat and Day of Defeat: Source, and I find it fascinating to recognize other Source engine games using similar assets.

[@4gn4x]

that art in the ending looks pretty nice

[@ESCalation]

Thank you!

[@4gn4x]

@@ESCalation can I see it full, or is it without background?

[@ESCalation]

@@4gn4x at 10 minutes you can see it. I have it as the loading screen

[@4gn4x]

@@ESCalation ah, okay. thanks

[@rrezet_]

3 months late but i fw da pfp and banner 👌🏻🔥

[@mccuenoirfilms]

Still play it at least once a week. Have been playing since 2001!

[@moosipea4206]

ahh those late nights playing dod, good times

[@YossarianAssyrian]

The graphical upgrades in DoD:S are great, but I prefer the original DoD for the additional content it has. The British Army, German Paratroopers, and extra classes rounded out the in-game arsenal nicely. Plus, the shooting in Source always felt off to me. It was always much tougher for me to land shots in Source than the original version.

[@ThiccBabush]

Day of Defeat. Especially Colmar. The amount of hours, days and nights i wasted lmao. Playing until the sun came up, work, gym, DOD....lol The memories and "friendships" formulated. Ill never forget it. Im glad i kept in touch with a couple of them. This game is one of the most underrated games ever. It had the potential, over the years and through tech advancements, to shit on every FPS out there. I dont get why it was never shown the love it deserved.

[@azamat4329]

I play this every xmas for some reason. Yesterday I got on the HomeGuard server and racked up some kills on all classes. Love it. I will play again next year!

[@samrobson8701]

Wonder if he’s jumped on again? Haha

[@Joselgnacio]

still playing, greatest game ever.

[@custom-vespa]

retaken time to play again, since over 10years without gaming.... connect to server.1stess.org and have fun

[@Dabadi4834]

The sfm part was horribly amazing

[@equilateral]

recommended helped me out to get here, dunno why I didn't see this in my subscription feed :(

[@NukeJockey]

I would have been so happy if they had have just released a straight DOD port to the source engine, I never liked DOD:S as much as the original, playing online back in the days of WON, very fond memories for me, by the time DOD:S actually came out, WON had been shut down and the original DOD was dying a slow death (here in Australia atleast) and releasing DOD: Source just stole more players, I still yearn for the days of playing the original on stupid custom maps like Legoland.

[@AndrewBartley]

Ah I miss dod so much. I spent so many hours playing on pub servers. Clan matches. Battle for Europe events. Such good memories. I didn’t like the nerfing of the weapons in source. Beta 3.1 was my highlight.

[@ESCalation]

Stick around, we have a new video on the cut content of day of defeat coming up soon!

[@xander1052]

I'd have loved Day of Defeat Source to have had the British and Paratroopers.

[@kill3stdayz910]

I have downloaded custom models for all of the weapons, sandbags, art, vehicles, and more! The game looks waaaaay better! I remember playing on my clan's server with only one opponent. We would both spawn with RPGs and have fun with the ragdoll physics! I have such great memories of this game! Thanks for the reminder!

[@Dunbar0740]

I recall Rambo-ing with the MG42 in the Source "beta", it annoyed everyone. That "feature" soon got nerfed. I managed to hold the number one slot on the White Widow leader-board for many months with the amount of kills I got.

[@Jason75913]

I miss the Enfield

[@Daehawk]

I loved DoD and many other modes like Firearms, Battle Grounds, pirates-knights-vikings. Miss those days and the old mods that were so fun.

[@ihavenoaffinity]

I never put a lot of time into DoD:S and never played the original DoD back in the day. I really wish I did. But after watching this video I never realized how similar a lot of Day of Infamy maps are to DoD maps. If the layouts were lifted straight from DoD or something I couldn't tell since I never played those maps in DoD:S but I swear I saw DoI's Salerno and Comacchio in this video, at least. It would be really interesting if those DoI maps actually were inspired by DoD since I always thought the connection there was NWI marketing fluff.

[@happybuddyperson]

Yea DoI was influenced quite a lot by both DOD games, you can mostly see it in the level design. When the game first released, they even had mods released to make the player models look like the DOD ones (sadly that mod stopped working in like patch 2 and never got fixed and eventually was removed)

[@shapeshifter7676]

You should've seen the DoD:S pro scene. it was amazing.

[@Yeomannn]

Day of Infamy is dead now, right?

[@ihavenoaffinity]

@@Yeomannn deader than it's ever been unfortunately.

[@Yeomannn]

@@ihavenoaffinity I figured as much. I bought the game when it came out years ago haven't played it in years think 2018 maybe.

[@OodldoodlNoodlesocks]

It was good that they put more effort into Source's visuals but the changes to gunplay weren't great.

[@haikew]

I miss the different factions. It would have been nice to have the British and Russians represented in the new DOD Source.

[@filipbartas576]

DoD love forever! Miss the british class and FG42 in source. And we need a new DoD in Source 2 pretty please

[@mr_topsy]

I was so lucky to go through all these games... Halve life, then CS, DOD and eventually TF2 at same time i was playing a weird game called codename eagle (check it out if you've never heard of it) which turned into BF1942. Q3 Rocket Arena, Planetside, and one of my most loved cancelled games Battletech 3025... one of the first MMOs... even more obscure ToonTown a micky mouse MMO... good times.

[@TheFirstBathroomHero]

I need a remake of DOD Source. It is such a great game

[@funcounting]

I fucking loved DOD: Source as a kid.

[@Monolize]

dod source had by far the very best theme music in my opinion

[@sssamuel6137]

nice to see a classic getting attention

[@coolcatzattack]

The in game voice comms british/germans/americans, with the hand signals... that was culture. LOUS LOUS LOUS!!! Helmets flying off from grenade explosions Mohawks for the British, Blonde for the germans. ahh and the biggest RIP of them all.. The STROSSTRUPE class. T_T Rip Gewehr 43 not to mention Rifle butting and bayos.... It used to take skill and balls...

[@ESCalation]

'LOUS' too much U ^^

[@arthur.b]

I remember back in 2006, I bought a CS:CZ CD, which came with HL2:DM and DOS:S... and I ended up playing DOD:S the most!

[@evila9076]

any way to download and play the half assed source version ?

[@cs512tr]

i love the mod, even 1.3 retail, the mod was just more gritty and harsh and the atmosphere. brilliant source was too bright or sterile and like a cartoon

[@ANGRYCSPLAYER]

1.3 retail was definately the best in terms of gameplay also. The controls were clean and the aim was crisp.

[@artzilla3]

I miss the old sights

[@neman82]

I even started up a new server for DoD Source, called 82ndRangers. Still enjoy playing The game even IF more then 10 years passed

[@ESCalation]

awsome!

[@eduardoscorpio]

From bug fixes being done and not released, to lack of content, this game is valve's bastard game

[@TheTeeWorldsfreak]

I would love to have the m1 carbine as a main weapon in DoD:S

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Me too. It's a really good weapon in the game. It's too bad that it's a secondary weapon and only has 2 extra magazines.

[@bromax360]

Good video 👌 Maybe one day Valve will make another Day of Defeat, I feel like I came too late to really get into the original game or DoD: Source although I do own both (because of the Valve Complete Pack.)

[@ScottWaa]

I remember DOD was a mod. During my visit to valve (200x) they introduced me to the creator, but mod just died out.

[@astonebrook91]

I used to play Day of Defeat Source for hours, I had damn near every weapon achievement... I would play on all of the 24/7 dod_avalanche servers

[@geroldgrimel4811]

Where can I find the artwork shown at 10:00 with the dog?

[@ESCalation]

A. It's a fox. B. Here you go! ;) twitter.com/ESCalationOffic

[@geroldgrimel4811]

@@ESCalation Oops! lol. Thank you all the same! I am a Patron now for your art!

[@ESCalation]

@@geroldgrimel4811 Oh you are Jarrett? Welcome and thx for the support!

[@geroldgrimel4811]

@@ESCalation Yes I am, and you're welcome.

[@soh1430]

since you are taking a look at Valve forgotten game can you do Alien Swarm next i fuking love that game although quite sad that Valve drop the project

[@Eyepoke42]

oh wow I had no idea this almost happened!

[@samz8691]

I still wish Source got updated. Imagine being able to grab a M1 Carbine from a dead rocket guy so you have a better backup gun as the Axis. (Or backup in general since not every class got pistols now) If the British Faction got expanded to have more guns or other content.

[@slovakhistoryball35]

i would actually like to see the old source as maybe some dlc for old dod

[@rdyt0]

The game has its flaws but still provides more fun than most modern cash-grab titles.

[@Misuune]

"geez shane that was nuts"

[@pt8306]

I really wish someone would do a nice big community update, similar to what happened with TF2

[@Alpay283]

Dod:source is nice and I'm still playing it but I wish we had Fallschirmjägers and brits 😔

[@Yeomannn]

same here

[@MegaButze]

Telefonmast

[@estianburger8709]

Im just hoping we get a good world war 2 game soon, im in dire need of one

[@Aaron-td2rb]

Hell let loose but nothing beats dod

[@pinnwarrior8514]

I'm going to get this game in 2 days is it worth it it looks really fun

[@phirefox4189]

Yes definitely

[@franzferdinan51]

They need to give this game a full overhaul and rerelease

[@toadmadhatter]

damn now i want to get on it

[@robertmihai2023]

I love the main menu soundtrack.the game is nice but i always find it irritating that the recoil isn't autolowered after you stop shooting

[@therealthirst8099]

Link to the full DoDS beta footage?

[@Wallu87]

And that, is how a perfectly good, competitive game was ruined. Dod 1.3 was the greatest version of the game, should have kept most of 1.3 and only improve graphics, hitboxes etc and dod would still have a competitive community.

[@Ylinatsiperkele]

We got an update to Counter-Strike in Global Offensive but not one to DoD :(

[@ESCalation]

Yea... a new DoD would be awsome!

[@hubanimations]

I would have liked if DoD:S retained the old weapons and how they functioned alongside the British faction. Even though it's probably never going to happen. I would have liked to see Valve make a proper DoD sequel instead of a fancy engine port with better graphics but less content. I used to play a ton of classic DoD on my dad's PC when I was a kid and had a phase in late middle school/early high school where I played DoD:S with my friends and I felt rather disappointed by the lack of content the port came with. Nowadays, I would say Day of Infamy is the proper successor to Day of Defeat. But even then, the devs for that game turned all attention towards Insurgency: Sandstorm.

[@ShawnCraven]

@ ESCalation Question What is your pc build? Thanks

[@Anonimnigamer367]

just upload more day of defeat and day of defeat source videos so the day of defeat games don't get forgeted ;)

[@MichaelAftonactor]

What hurts about the british is that the model of the flag still has the British flag skin.

[@Denzao-D]

By going standalone with this was the first step to the grave. It was way more better before you could buy it as a standalone. I think anyone can agree with me on this, it was way more fun when this mod was a "underground" mode.

[@C.A._Old]

Best Game Ever. Now These Days Still Alives. ! +1 One Day ! DOD 2 ! +1

[@oguardiaodosaber]

What about Day of Defeat: G.O. ?

[@pikkumiki]

Still playing weekly with my brothers

[@unleashthedog]

Actually in retrospective the in-between version might have been much better. DoD Source was too smooth, lacked the griminess of the original... it felt like playing with plastic soldiers rather than be immersed in the action.

[@MapSpawn]

Exactly, DoD Source is trash and the gameplay cannot be fixed. At least a direct port could have been fun to play.

[@ianrotten4453]

I miss the Grease Gun the most. I was deadly with that gun...

[@TheBig_Lebowski]

Counterstrike Source wurde 1 zu 1 vom Vorgänger kopiert, warum haben die bei DoD Source soviel eingespart wie zb Klassen, Briten, als auch Paratroops. Das war ne riesen Enttäuschung damals.

[@nickysimi9866]

Honestly, in day of defeats case I'd have preferred a direct port, or at the very least they have higher poly models but everything else the same

[@leandrogoslean889]

I wish they would at least release the Linux port of DoD:S out of beta

[@dmo848]

When games were actually good

[@badnewsbruner]

Damn, they did it twice and STILL fucked it up!

[@NotForSale49]

а это просто комментарий от русского игрока Day of Defeat Source, который верит и ждет возрождения феникса!

[@yurnero4894]

I wish Valve would make a new DoD, the game was super great but the active servers today have the problem that they are way to full of workshop stuff. I don't wanna download costum files fir 3 hours everytime I join a server...

[@mccuenoirfilms]

6th Ranger Battalion server and 1st Marine Raider Battalion server are always full with zero downloads unless they are playing custom maps.

[@yurnero4894]

@@mccuenoirfilms Thx for the recommendation, I will definitly give them a try.

[@mccuenoirfilms]

@@yurnero4894 You’re welcome! You’ll see me in there every once in a while as “Yeah Yeah!” or “you dig?”

[@custom-vespa]

the best version of DOD was then and ever: 3.1beta non-steam.

[@JohnHunter-jl1mh]

I still play this game Day Of Defeat Source and it's not that bad and there's still people playing Avalanche and Crazy Gun Game and they're not all bots, it plays just like the old days so I don't see what's so bad.

[@andresbravo2003]

I'm very sure it was Activision who helped valve. Well it was never forgotten during the popular WWII days.

[@MondySpartan]

*Activision

[@shockwave2523]

Shout out to my old SOE clan mates

[@ESCalation]

You guys played dod or dod source?

[@shockwave2523]

@@ESCalation We played at the start. First of all we were ranked 2nd for a year next to 4 kings (played them at i15 Lan) in CS right up to the release of CS Go then we moved to Dod. We held on to 1st there for perhaps a year. SOE stand outs players were An1mal, YogitoN, Fish, spetznas_1 and Chew1e the boss. It was a great game, I have some great memories 🙏

[@ChaseMC215]

I wished it got Bots

[@juanma0840]

LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[@greatexkaiser1035]

Such a shame they didn't do the same thing with Half-Life: Source. Oh well, at least we got Black Mesa out of it.

[@timotejm]

Day of defeat global ofenzive. It would be nice.

[@lordcybercat4968]

ENEMY AHEAD!!!!!

[@NobodiesOxygen]

Video on Day of infamy? it is kinda dying it is such a good game

[@ESCalation]

Maybe, but first a video on DoD, cut mortar class.

[@kirbyisnotapokemon4750]

i didn't really like dod source because weapons had just an insane amount of recoil and were so inaccurate that mag dumping your smg at an enemy 20 meters away wouldn't alwais guarantee a hit.

[@BigSavageG]

I wonder why this game and other especially Counter Strike 1.6 have good animations of weapons and yet Left 4 Dead seems like their weapon animator was complete beginner or atleast didn't spend enough time to make use of his abilities. I think money wasn't the case. By the way Counter Strike 1.6 has really good animations for todays standards, just look how good they are. Most games in late 2000s (AAA titles) had shit animations in comparison to original CS.

[@TKsh1]

Honestly, since back in the day Valve animations are quite mediocre, they're basic at best but do their job. L4D1 was developed by Turtle Rock Studios, and L4D2 had a very short development time.

[@BigSavageG]

@@TKsh1 I wouldn't say that never about Counter-Strike 1.6. Animations in this game are really well made, especially USP, Deagle, M4A1, Knife

[@JoabeRuben]

So 2nd?

[@Garsh89]

Day of Defeat: Condition Zero