WARFRAME: Jade Shadows Explained

[@OldNorthFoxx222]

Still convinced Umbra was on the ceiling when Shadow confronted us ready to drop on him like Batman.

[@SocraTetris]

I assume Umbra is off frame at all times, unless someone specifically says, "oh hey! Where'd Umbra go?"

[@Hinaloth]

@@SocraTetris Umbra is Perry the platypus, fighting the Warframe equivalent of Doofenshmirtz going to insane length to keep his secret life hidden from the Tenno.

[@ultimatesage478]

​@SocraTetris there is a dialogue of Ordis asking if its umbra walking around the ship when the stalker invaded our ship, so idk I found that interesting

[@SocraTetris]

Hinaloth, you 100% got my reference! 👏🏾

[@SocraTetris]

Ordis does call out for Umbra, which I hope to god is foreshadowing a future quest

[@mozeytown]

I have to say, I really appreciate the specificity of your content warnings. When I played the quest, I completely misunderstood the CW for "the trauma of motherhood", thinking it was going to be about emotional trauma from familial relations. (I also got confused and spent half the quest thinking Jade was a sort of mother figure to Sorren, though eventually I worked it out.) By the time I got to the delivery scene and realized what the content warning actually meant, it was too late. Many years ago, I nearly lost a partner to childbirth, and this quest brought all that terror and grief and helplessness back to the surface as it made me roleplay the surviving parent that I once feared I would become. This quest wrecked me emotionally in a way no videogame ever has before. I think that's a testament to the quality of Warframe's masterful storytelling. Jade is my favourite frame for _many_ reasons and will always have a special place in my heart. And I never tire of hearing her story. Thanks for an incredible video!

[@SocraTetris]

You're welcome, Mozeytown! And thank you for going through what you went through to be here. I also found the content warning to be too vague. DE's story has always dealt with some pretty dark topics, but usually with more of a fantasy filter than this quest. They arent accustomed to interrupting their own narrative flow. I find that a well done content warning not only helps people avoid, but it can help people that would be hurt by a story prepare themselves to experience it without being hurt as well

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

I also thought Jade was Sorren's mother from the CW. Until the delivery scene and was like: "OH...Oh..? oh..."

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

​@@SocraTetrisyeah the Inaros quest for example went through Baro dealing with the genocide of his people. Which might not be much for white people from the west. But if you're a Palestinian, Armenian, etc then this can be heavy. Or how the Sacrifice dealt with grief, which is something many people across the world deal with

[@claymore6620]

Thank you for the lesson Mrs.Tetris 🙏

[@Hinaloth]

i still pingpong between which scene was the most emotionally impactful in Warframe. The Sister calling off the attack and Stalker being allowed to walk/limp out of combat because he carries the first new life in the system in eras is definitely up there.

[@SocraTetris]

Right up there with Umbra's healing scene imo

[@Hinaloth]

@@SocraTetris Yeah, though the one that broke me was the Tenno transfering into the vessel and reaching out to the Outsider in its own vessel at the end of Whispers. Expecting a punch, kaiju-style event and instead getting a reminder that wars are won by compassion just sent me.

[@theperfidiousdrakan9366]

Man. Every time i see the finale of this quest, i always end up crying. There's just something infinitely powerful about a father giving everything to protect their child. Especially when that father turns away from their hatred and wrath.

[@SocraTetris]

Especially since we have been with Stalker for so long and seen all this growth happen

[@Pdasniper]

I'm glad this video exists. When I played the quest I was disappointed how contrived events were and how Jade's role is to die tragically basically. It's good to know there's you, willing to dig up another 10 pages of writing hidden in the depth of the game, far removed from the quest itself, that makes the story at least a little bit more clear.

[@SocraTetris]

For sure. This one was a surprise, because I usually dont need to use any of the supplemental material to present things clearly. Hopefully it wont happen more in the future. But i'm paying mor attention to the promotional story stuff now

[@cmr2004]

And we got grand father hunhowl My life is complete

[@SocraTetris]

Hunhow has been grandpa in my head canon for years. So jade's baby is absolutely our little cousin. Might be easier to day niece or nephew though

[@cmr2004]

@SocraTetris that is heart warming and terrifying at the same time for some reason

[@UNGGodYT]

Thank you Mrs SocraTetris! the pregnancy is the most polarizing aspect of jade, to this day it stills feels wrong to have a pregnant warframe in battle, and they refuse to change it, give us a skin of a maiden Jade! they have it because jade wasnt like that in the first peaks at her.

[@SocraTetris]

Not revealing the story moment even in the preview materials is a wonderfully executed strategy. I do not think it wrong for a pregnant warframe in battle. It demonstrates a reminder of the narrative in game design. Jade chose to fight to protect the tenno that was in her head. I don't think that the relationship between tenno (child) and warframe is any different just because we can visually see it happening on Jade's body.

[@UNGGodYT]

@@SocraTetris but then we get the kangaskhan problem, if it was empty on our build warframe, i would have no problem, but there is something there, so where did it comes from? kangaskhan being the pokemon that has a child in his purse, but any new hatched kangaskhan also has a baby on it, so where it comes from ...

[@SocraTetris]

The answer is the same as in Pokemon. Don't think about it that hard. It's a cool character design.

[@DarkmegaGaming]

Thank you for not bullet jumping and rolling like mad while cradling little sirius. Poor little one got shaken and stirred by a lotta people. also, holy crap, I never knew of the Jade lore at the grave site. O_o

[@SocraTetris]

Oh yeah! It hit me as soom as i started to move. Lile yo, baby on board!

[@AlasKenn1]

Hunhow really shouldn't have skipped leg day.

[@SocraTetris]

He tried to do a squat, but realized he didn't have legs

[@rugino3614]

The 9 hours of warframe lore was worth it. Finally, wife debut.

[@SocraTetris]

Worth the wait

[@napolianothederg]

Jade shadows has to be my favorite quest, ever. Not because it was fun, but because it made me feel the emotions so well. I still start tearing up every single time i hear the soundtrack, how close and personal it feels. Every time i hear the choir part i remember how Jade put her hand on Sorrens cheek as she went away... It just hits me different. Since the time i played the quest(the literal first second it dropped) that scene is in my mind. Also i love how you touched on how they don't teach us of anything they don't want us to know, they limit the amount you can think and put everything in little boxes however they like. So that when someone realizes what they have been thought is wrong or misleading, the other ones can weird them out and silence the truth. That is how the Orokin worked, and its how real life works. I have finished the entire video and i cannot emphasize how much i love the entirety of it. Thank you so much for this masterpiece, Tetris.

[@SocraTetris]

I'm glad it resonated so much with you, napolian. Keep living your truth!

[@napolianothederg]

@@SocraTetris Being a closeted trans person in a very religious country teaches u some stuff, y'know. You realize a lot when you are weirded out, it helps you take a step back and look at our world views.

[@SocraTetris]

I empathize with that struggle. I don't know your situation or if it's safe to come out irl. But there is so much joy to be found, even dealing with every struggle it comes with. There is still time, and don't wait.

[@Jen_meja]

Idk how to express how much I liked the segment that discussed sex, gender, and their roles in society but it was a very captivating listen. Keep it up

[@SocraTetris]

I'm glad you liked it Jen :)

[@thebigbrzezinski]

I have to love how, at the end, the Corpus showed compassion by literally letting Stalker Get Out Of Here. That meme hasn't felt the same since. In a good way.

[@SocraTetris]

I saddened that i somehow misses this meme!

[@Star-Blink]

I have to say, that this Quest was one of a few, which draw tears in my eyes

[@SocraTetris]

We were waterworks over here too

[@koltonkulis4763]

This quest awoke something primal in me. I am the father of a one year old, and my wife went through a traumatic birth and severe post-partum depression. Mom and baby are fine, but I was hit very hard emotionally in this quest. When The Corpus invaded, I felt so much anger. My thoughts were something like, "My wife is dead, and you have invaded my home?! YOU WILL NOT HURT MY CHILD! I WILL TEAR YOU APART!" I have never experienced anything like this in a video game before.

[@SocraTetris]

Thats a strong and honest reaction. Testament to how impact these moments can be. Thank you for sharing! 💜

[@ThatGreyGentleman]

I’m 12 minutes in and you’ve already absolutely nailed this. Amazing, Amazing work, Tetris.

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you, TGG!

[@Covolsky]

Clan Hunhow with rouge robot LED lights is adorable!

[@AlasKenn1]

15:51 Tad sounds like a real piece of Man. Line up ladies, worlds most eligible bachelor has arrived and his mom is not picking him up til 5.

[@SocraTetris]

Lol! Omg that's so funny

[@bartoszkowalski1618]

This videos incredible, keep up the good work, i think you are unmatched when it comes to analysing warframe lore on youtube.

[@SocraTetris]

I try my best! Thank you, bartosz!

[@future_xfl]

Beautiful video. Will we be getting one on the Lotus Eaters quest anytime soon, or would that string into a 1999 video down the line?

[@SocraTetris]

The plan is to incorporate that into the Warframe 1999 video. I'm collecting all the bits and baubles i can as they tease the update before December

[@future_xfl]

@SocraTetris Sounds good, can't wait for that!

[@joelarocho2594]

Given how emotional this quest made me, i shouldnt be surprized im about 20min in and already tearing up. This is gonna be rough...

[@SocraTetris]

You can make it! I believe in you!

[@KoonsieN7]

Dude we got to give a round of applause to the VAs. They consistently do an amazing job.

[@SocraTetris]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@davidmendis1820]

Soooo good. Thank you! Much love!!!

[@CZOM027]

Hey, how about calling the children in future references Sirion? They sure want this quest to look like it will have importance later, so we might have to discuss Sirion when new quests come.

[@SocraTetris]

I will likely just default to the name I chose. And, unless otherwise prompted by the story, refer to them with they/them pronouns. Which is what i try to do whenever i am being mindful of the operator and the drifter's identity.

[@lenkagiminesrefrigerator]

This video hit home. It's always interesting when people understand. I am a chimera and have multiple gender chromosomes. It's just very intresting to here someone actually talking about it.

[@SocraTetris]

I glad you enjoyed it! I think that when people hear about these things at rand, they hear how rare it is and brush off that it matters to acknowledge. Even a small percentage ends up being hundreds of thousands of people living their lives. That's what I hoped to emphasize, so thank you for being here!

[@Lady_Malefica]

Oh I'm really excited for this one

[@SocraTetris]

Heck yeah! Biggest moment in the story so far!

[@katyusha9319]

Also, xx and xy do not exactly determine your sex.. (Ty for explaining that.)

[@nicolasgomez6637]

Justo a tiempo PAL ESTRENO HPTAA!!!

[@MommaDraelik]

I appreciate this video so much T^T Thank you for the disclaimed need to be more mature with the topic, the inclusion of your wife and I agree with her responses with regard to how they depict about the birth. The biggest myth to me is that people think that it is easy to obtain, maintain and recover from. It's rough the whole way through on the carrier end -_- Her words of encouragement are happily taken in. Good stuff! Love the reminder of the quote Fibonacci gave at the end of the Man in the wall (Mr. Baldwin is a treasure T^T). I, too picked Sirius lol Ordan Karris is artfully Badass. Beautifully done!

[@SocraTetris]

So i, unfortunately, worl in HR. And it astounds me how complicated and frustrating insurance makes having a baby too. It's so expensive to give birth, at exactly the time when one cant work to pay for it

[@_pyza_]

I have to say I love the little Hunhow

[@SocraTetris]

It was a fun build! Despite my limitations, i tried to design him lote-accurate

[@mozeytown]

I believe the commonly referenced descriptions of seraphim and ophanim come from Ezekiel and Isaiah (which are canon), not the apocryphal Book of Enoch (though Enoch is responsible for a number of other conventions of angelology and demonology).

[@SocraTetris]

You know, this could be on me. Because i always end up thinking about the book of enoch's descriptions that I forget about those. Thanks for correcting me!

[@katakesh8566]

Technically speaking, its not the Book of Enoch, its the Book of Ezekiel

[@SocraTetris]

Another commentor reminded me that they appear there as well. Its good to point out, because my bias made me default to what is most popularly depicted in media

[@Navvh0]

Oh boy

[@barnabasrsnags4828]

Content!

[@SocraTetris]

Engagement!

[@lenkagiminesrefrigerator]

This video is cool

[@katyusha9319]

Thank you for explaing gender and sexuality in such a way that honestly i beleive only you could, 🏳️‍⚧️

[@chasethecringewolf2195]

Hunhow No pants.

[@SocraTetris]

Where we're going, we won't need pants

[@iandur5601]

Your wife sounds absolutely lovely

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you, Iandur!

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

Thank you so much for pre-quest talk. Your words about gender, family and the Sentients was really beautiful. I didn't get the Reader's Lament when I read through it. Warframe's poetic writing can be a bit hard to understand for me. Sex and gender is something I think a lot about as a Genderfluid person. And family is something I have been thinking about more and more of lately, as I am connecting now more with my parents as an adult rather than the teenager I used to be. Your words gave me goosebumps. And I also thought it was very interesting what you said about the Sentients. As they are my favorite sci-fi faction, but I often feel like Warframe kinda underexplores them a lot.

[@SocraTetris]

I would love to know more of your thoughts on what i said As i came at discussing gender and family from a very general, historical perspective. I dont have the personal experience that say a gender fluid person would have. So i don't want to present myself as an authority on how people should think about these things. My main hope for the sentients is that i do believe warframe's story is going to Tau at some point. And i hope we find a Sentient society unburdened by the Orokin's influence

[@shade5640]

The Book of Enoch is mostly biblically unaccepted not for its inaccuracies but also for the fact that its origins and author are highly questionable. Multiple iterations of it have been discovered, with one apparently being credited to being in the ownership of Pontius Pilate at one time. There is also no evidence that Enoch wrote any of these iterations. There's really no evidence to the identity of any author at all.

[@SocraTetris]

With such uncertain authorship and inconsistencies, by what metric do you say that it is still "accurate" ? As far as i am aware, canonized text are mainly a matter of agreement by church officials. The Song of Solomon wasnt even written to be a religious poem, and yet it is biblical canon.

[@shade5640]

@SocraTetris I left it with the phrasing I did partially to cover any ignorance I hold over details of the book that align with the Bible. I haven't read the Book of Enoch in its entirety, and thus I'm not entirely aware as to whether or not there are details that match the Bible. It's in a similar vein as the Key of Solomon as far as the "apocryphal texts" of Judeo-Chridtian belief. Ambiguous authorial identities as well as details that seem in conflict with Old Testament and/or New Testament texts. Apologies, I just noticed there is more to read of your comment. Canonicity is, to my knowledge, a matter of relevancy as well as consistency with pre-existing biblical texts. And even some of what *is* canon is debated in its historical basis; Samson in the Book of Judges and the entirety of the Book of Job are called into question with some believing them to be parables or even Ancient Hebrew mythology.

[@SocraTetris]

I think you may find it interesting to learn a but about other, near-christian religions of the time. Just like we mentioned the gnostics (and i see gnosticism get a lot of play on youtube) you may also enjoy learning about the Manichaeans as well. You seem like a student of religious history and would enjoy engaging with new perspecticws even if you arent using them to inform your faith

[@shade5640]

@@SocraTetris I have been making study of all of these one by one, over the last several months. I started with the Bible (making discoveries about Christian doctrine and teaching that people both within and without my faith have taught and been taught), Jewish faith, then Muslim, and I'm currently making a study of Zoroastrianism. I have some rudimentary knowledge of gnosticism. I'll have to add more to my reading list as I discover more of these. I studied "pagan" religions like ancient Greek, Roman and Norse, but those things have new discoveries made all the time.

[@shade5640]

@@SocraTetris I also want to say that your channel is a goldmine to me. When you respond and we have a discussion, it's always been a treat. I haven't found many thinkers in my immediate area as I live in a region dominantly Protestant Christian with not much interest in anything outside the faith.

[@ZeroOmega-vg8nq]

dude. mute the damn gameplay audio and use some of the ingame music as background i couldnt finish the video with all the damn noise

[@SocraTetris]

You need to calm down and find a polite way of providing this feedback. This entertainment is provided to you for free, without budget or staff. I normalized and reduced the gameplay dBs to -20 while all VO is normalized to -6 dB. The nature of "Level of Perceived Volume" (Lopvs) is just that, a perception dependent on many factors that are difficulty to control. You appear more sensitive to high pitches, which have higher LUPVS even at very low dB. That is not, however, a justification for being rude in my comments section

[@katyusha9319]

So.. how is gender not a child appropriate topic?

[@SocraTetris]

I believe it is appropriate to discuss topics of gender with our children. Unfortunately, we also live in a time where people are quick to misappropriate the topic. The disclaimer is there to be extremely transparent who the intended audience is and what is and is not being discussed, so that they cannot be conflated by bad faith actors seeking to silence the video for discussing gender and speaking in support of trans rights.

[@Smolmothball]

This quest made me cry 3 seperate times, i love this game so much

[@SocraTetris]

I was there too. Could literally water my garden with my waterworks

[@davidmendis1820]

Teared up actually.