BOSS RE-202 & RE-2 Space Echo [Upgrade From RE-20? And Why Use A Space Echo Anyway?]

[@AndyDemos]

Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed the demo and I love where you chose to go in this one! ✌️❤️

[@stanislavmigra]

Andyyy

[@jjarabejo305]

Vintage guitars and loud tube amps are why I watch, and will remain watching. Is to me the only way to go, and I appreciate your doing it this way.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you kindly!

[@marcofioravanti4176]

Thanks for the comparison! I still have my old, trusty RE-20. To get it even less digital sounding and more "dangerous" I can highly recommend following treatment: (With a little warning, too..! 😀) 1.) Put the RE-20 into the "Long Mode": Less pristine highs, doubled delay time. A "hint" of Lofi, if you will... Fire it up holding "Tap" and keep holding it until the motion LED stops flashing and lights up solid. Turn the "Mode Selector" to "2". Release "Tap" and tap it shortly once again. Ready. ( To go back to the regular "Short Mode" again, do the same, but put Mode Selector to "1".) 2.) Refeed the signal: Put the guitar or synth into Input A, as usual. Go from Output A to Input B! Go from Output B into your DAW or next pedal or amp or whatever: Delay signal gets relatively louder, a bit more saturated and flangey, gets sooner into self oscillation. Warning: Putting the now "phased out" sounding reverb too high results in an unpleasant digital feedback mess! So be careful with the reverb setting!! And now even the reverb is only mono... But, that said: All in all, 1.) and 2.) make the RE-20 giving me a tad more convincing tape delay simulation! I sometimes even back of both tone knobs by a good bit: Less highs, less bass = more mids, not in the way. To having the delays cutting through the mix, go "east" with the treble knob instead. Cheers! Have fun!

[@javiceres]

Output A into input B. I try that with every pedal that allows it that I get. And if you can, do it with several pedals, and set a mono pedal in the line and the last stereo pedal back into the first one.

[@alfgwahigain5544]

I've owned an RE-20 for about 3 years and I'm happy with it. To my ear, I prefer the slight grittiness of the RE-20 to the 202. However, I think they both sound great.

[@Airfire21]

Ah fellas, thanks so much for the shout out, I can't tell you how much that has made my day. I'm so glad that it was such an interesting question to you - in reality I think for me it was quite selfish, but you guys managed to blow it wide open and make it apply for a learning point for everyone. You may remember recently my acquisition of a Marshall DSL15 - which I am still absolutely loving every single day - however, I feel like I am missing some reverb. But I tried a couple of different things (cranking the reverb to 11 and moving the Slo before the wet/dry split and turning the effect down a lot) and it didn't really inspire me anymore, so I went back and listened to a couple of the delay shows and I felt myself seeing the lines blur between the delays that I was enjoying hearing, and what I would consider to be reverb. I think what I have discovered through this show and the previous shows is in reality what I am missing from the sound of the Marshall is a multi-head delay - whether it be an Echorec replica or a Space Echo reissue etc. It has lead me to some more, personal questions about things I may do with my board - but maybe that's a video for me to make. Great show as always guys and absolutely awesome to see Mick back on the vintage Strat again and to see the Gretsch come back out! Big love to the TPS family and see you guys soon.

[@grahamkelly8299]

Lately I'm thinking, you know what, f the boutique market. The oul boss stuff stands up against them all

[@davedavem]

Shhh 🤫

[@50Something]

They are the Grand Masters after all lad!

[@nekkon1989]

That makes total sense. Why pay three times as much for a pedal that is not even twice as good.

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

Aside from wahs/Whammy, and a few PSK Boss clones, all of my pedals are Boss, they sound great, look great, and are built tough.

[@willdenham]

And Ibanez.

[@gbarge4]

Very cool episode. I'm loving the care with production details such as lighting and crafty edits. Too easy to let these go unsung. I was very struck by Dan's comment on sentimental attachment to the old girl. I really get that. The happiness from picking up my first electric while wearing a TPS shirt actually makes me play better. Or so it seems. Cheers.

[@barnshart9662]

Admittedly I haven't watched many TPS videos lately. Life style change, less time to fully commit. But I'm very glad that I got to watch this one. I really appreciate all the work you two do. Thank you for all your hard work!

[@ElliottCustomLures]

Same, so much so that I haven't picked up a guitar in months. This vid may have baited me back in...

[@TheOdditee]

FYI: You guys always add something unique, and of value, even when you do what other channels do. Cheers.

[@melvinhawkins4567]

I've been waiting for you two to cover these new pedals! I absolutely love your tape delay episodes!!

[@simonhirstmusic]

Hey guys! Just a few minutes in and I wanted to say that I love that you don’t do the more ‘typical’ review type thing. There are so many of those, many of them are great and all power to them, but having been a TPS viewer since basically day dot, it’s this kind of difference that has been a big factor in me always coming back ❤️ Kudos to you both hombres! Looking forward to the video!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks so much Simon!

[@arbelmaidan3657]

The saturation knob CAN affect the dry signal if you set it up that way in the extra settings mode, which is one of the strongest selling points for this unit in my opinion.

[@levijessegonzalez3629]

re-20 can do that?

[@arbelmaidan3657]

@@levijessegonzalez3629 No

[@YeatzeeGuitar]

Excited for the 202 vs Volante video, been waiting for someone to finally do that!

[@nilsx3020]

Super stoked about this episode as I’ve had my 202 for about a month now. I’m really loving it, my first space echo. It really does its own thing.

[@TimBentley]

The multi-head delay episodes are some of the best. Fond memories of the various Echorec appearances, and this was awesome. That 202 sounds very good....

[@artwerkmedia8616]

Love the RE202 because all the videos out there made me discover the Volante. Love my new Volante. Fav strymon pedal ever.

[@Curt.dammit]

This is the earliest I will ever catch this show (U.S. mountain time zone). It certainly makes getting up at 5am for work (the morning after a gig 😩) loads more enjoyable.

[@marklavanish5024]

Thanks Dan and Mick! You guys are the best part of my Mondays and Fridays!

[@Russell_Optics]

Awesome review and comparison, thank you both ! I've had an RE-202 on pre-order for a while now and can't wait for it to arrive. Usually when I pre-order an item I end up having second thoughts while waiting, but with the RE-202 my anticipation gets stronger each day with no second thoughts at all. Great video guys.

[@AdamGotheridge]

"a bit of a hard time doing this video". Not everyday you will feel inspired, or maybe some days technical problems that sap all the fun out of it. I think you guys did a great job regardless. Really appreciate the human element you guys bring, and all that is a big part of what makes this channel great.

[@andrewpalmer1849]

Thank-you Mick & Dan. I learnt so much (again) in the video. As a guitarist born out of lockdown, your content is invaluable on a steep learning curve! 😃

[@stanislavmigra]

Oh man, enjoy the journey ...

[@DoubleDguitar]

I have been waiting to hear Dan play this for about as long as he has.

[@aintnothinbutdablues]

The only thing missing on the new 202: The small cool needle indicator from the original! Why didn’t Boss put it there?!

[@sega62s]

because they will do another version with it 😂

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

I love the sound that you guys dialed in for this episode. Very nice.

[@Study_Sleep_Chill]

Thank you for the information about the extra steps it takes to change between the reverbs on the 202. Great video, can't wait for the Volante video!

[@kierenmoore3236]

How annoying, geez!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shuster1921]

That intro was just sick, that Man needs a Meris Polymoon on his board!! He would take that pedal to new places!! Bravo Sir!

[@bichovergara]

Finally! Somebody addressing the RE-20 in the mix

[@Megamando93]

I think that Andy's video for Reverb was interesting. I think it demonstrates the variability in each original RE unit. In general I have only ever preferred the tape units, but I think the 202 brings a lot to the table. Wish it had an analog preamp model in it because I think it misses a lot of the inherent texture that comes from the units having their own preamps - the Catalinbread delays are a great example of why it is great to have. Thanks for another great vid guys

[@jonathanbrown943]

Thanks so much for the tips in this video! It inspired me to set up my Catalinbread Echorec so that all the heads are on, and what a magnificent sound, I like it better than any verb that I’ve used!

[@mw-1]

I’m still using the Akai Headrush e2! Four heads with adjustable relative levels, spacing, and switch individual heads on/off using jack plugs in the four head outputs.

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Congrats on the Strat, Mick! Such a beautiful guitar! I hope you'll have a great time with it, after searching for so long for a vintage Strat. :)

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you kindly! I am enjoying it greatly!

[@neenerheaddj]

@@ThatPedalShow - Mick, have I missed where you’ve recounted the tale of buying it? Or do you plan to? I only remember you giving a quick “yes” in a recent VCQ when asked if you’d purchased it. I’d like to hear the story! :) Oh, and welcome to the Pre-CBS club! ‘64 Esquire for me. So far… So happy for you!

[@russellkane9439]

Wow.... I wait every week for your new video... great... too much mo ey for the new boss re202 but I own the re 20 and I am very hsppy with that... really beautiful the Gretsch guitar!!!

[@jacktaylorguitarist]

Even just having the explanation of the way the tap heads work is great! I had no idea how it works on my DD200, so thanks! Would love to see the DD200 added on next weeks shop when you compare the other delays.

[@GarryHuta]

If you select the Tape delay option, you can turn the parameters knob to change the heads. For example if you see just 1, it's just the one head. If you see 2,3 then it's the 2nd and 3rd heads. 123 will be heads 1, 2 and 3. You can also assign the right or left buttons to the warp or twist function for some crazy oscillation effects via the settings(Tap Division and Preset button). Check out the manual, there's a bunch of crazy things the DD-200 can do.

[@jacktaylorguitarist]

@@GarryHuta thanks Garry! Yeah the DD200 is great, some really cool sounds in there. I don’t think the bride and groom will appreciate the twist function on the next wedding gig I do though 😂

[@GarryHuta]

@@jacktaylorguitarist lol! What do you mean?? Who wouldn't like the twist function during the procession?? Try the hold feature with the tera echo setting. My God is it a beautiful pad soundscape. I have mine set to the max delay time with just a little of the feedback and I hold down the right switch when assigned to the Hold feature. That Hold feature is like a sustain pedal for the keyboard. Amazing.

[@GuitarsRgood7]

I tried out the RE-202 recently. It's so awesome! Definitely overwhelming with all those controls, so I want to try it again.

[@zynthio]

that intro playing was gorgeous

[@Restringlo]

Hey guys, been a long time viewer for years. Love your show. Recently lost a good friend, and student of 6 years. He was getting into pedals, so I showed him y’all’s channel, he loved it. Miss my kiddo dearly. But this show brings me great joy, that he’s jamming with all the greats in heaven. He probably has more pedals than Dan. Love you guys. Here’s to Jerod. “Have swang”

[@ThatPedalShow]

Sorry for your loss Anthony, and of course to Jerod’s family. May he rest in peace.

[@justinbalog]

Finally got to watch….thanks so much! Such an epic, thoughtful, and inspiring EP. Thanks so much!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cheers Justin, great to hear from you man!

[@ericwarrington6650]

Really incredible work as always guys... mesmerizing ambient tones that just cut right through you esp w the hollow body feeding back.. dynamics are unreal

[@geha6596]

RE-2 vs RE-202 --> the RE-202 also has the new and aged tape mode which the RE-2 does not have. great show as always! BTW, When I'm struck by a slight feeling of depression, I immediately watch one of your shows and I feel almost 100% again - it's that "I feel at home and cosy" vibe you guys send out!!! thanks for that :)

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah that’s great to hear! Thank you for sharing that!

[@lw1391]

Does the RE-20 have that new + aged tape mode feature?

[@Nigel_Shortpants]

Love the video, and I love all things space echo. Saving up for the echo-fix, because I love that real tape thing. Just wanted to give the bass breaker a big shout out too. Played one many years ago, loved it, and ever since I’ve felt like it was a dream, you hardly ever see them or even any info on them. A lost gem,

[@ThatPedalShow]

We were lucky to find the BB for sure. It’s a really nice amp. Thought I would not like the Vintage 30s, but they work great!

[@wadesummers4102]

Surprised to see this episode after you said you had scrapped one during the VCQ. Quick turn around! Bravo. My favorite setting on my Boss DD-200 is the Tape setting. So good. I use the analog setting sometimes but I have a EH Memory Toy and JHS 3 series for true analog.

[@TomPFC]

Bought an RE-20 literally 2 weeks before the 202 was announced. I don’t regret my decision personally, it was cheaper, is a nicer pedal to navigate, and overall sounds closer to the original 201 in my humble opinion.

[@walkerkyle73]

The twist function of the re-20 is much better than the 202.

[@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu]

I wanted the 20 as well. slowdive,Tame impala used it. but when i saw the 20 new or used it always varied. but to be honest, my Board has 3 big pedal (Plexi drive,walrus warhorn+Ages,Avalanche Run) so the compact RE-2 was probably my best bet. as well as BOSS makes them all so it wasnt like I was looking for one brand and just picked another brand for less money

[@SIDESmusic]

I bought the second RE-20 now, brand new at a super cheap price. They run together in stereo now. Unique sound for me

[@henkkman]

@@walkerkyle73 absolutely!

[@fossilmatic]

Yep. In this demo it seemed the “soup” created by the delays in the Re-20 was closer to those in the Re-201. The “fidelity” of all the delays and effects on them with the Re-202 seemed a bit additive and less organic somehow. Great when you’re listening to guitar played in isolation for a demo, but gotta wonder how it would sit in a band mix?

[@jsmuir4722]

Yet another great exposition. Somewhat of an institution this Pedal Show!

[@cameronlesley2428]

This has been a good video it’s made me dig out my old boss dd3 and experiment with it , (I never used it because I didn’t get it!) but this has explained how delays work tape or digital. Thanks x 800ms

[@jeshely]

Others might do “technical” demos better than you do but not many provide a better, broader context and “philosophy of use” than you do and that is what differentiates you. So don’t doubt it and keep them coming.

[@Cesiumswimsuit]

Great intro Dan, perfect way to get hyped for an exploration with the Space Echo!

[@RubyRoks]

What a perfect intro to get spaced to, should one be into that kind of thing. Such lovely sounds from that Gretsch

[@kennethlinton4432]

Had to watch this again because it is such a great compare. Have a RE-20. It is a classic.

[@garrrrrryyy]

I love you guys , you have the best show on earth when it comes to fender strats amps effects , excellent work , you guys inspire many people to wanna play guitar

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Gary!

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

The combo of full hollow body with Bigsby and a tape echo is unbeatable for moody noodling. The feedback available with low gain barely breaking up guitar signal makes for a highly expressive cyborganic whole (with the player and amp).

[@AnthonyEvans-wl5ts]

Do you have an example video of these combination by someone?

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

@@AnthonyEvans-wl5ts no, I can’t think of any offhand. Jimmy Willsea used to do it with a Strat in Silvertone 40 years ago. My Harmony Rocket got stolen so I can’t do it anymore.

[@murray.altheim]

A couple of days ago I bought a Nux NDD-7 Tape Echo, which emulates the Roland Space Echo. I don't have a point of comparison, but it has a great feature set (I think most of the Roland), easy to use, small well-made unit, nice UI, mono in, stereo out, 1600ms of delay and even has a 40 second looper that can be used at the same time as the Space Echo. So far I'm really enjoying it, and it was less than half the price of El Capistan here in Tokyo. If you guys get a chance to review it I'd love to hear what you think...

[@EricSauerets]

Hey All, just one note on the Saturation control on the 202. There is a hidden menu function to have that saturation also applied to your clean signal in addition to the repeats.

[@eaglerayrob]

I love delay and almost always have it on when playing. If just noodling around I've found that setting the delay time to be a factor of my at-rest heartbeat to be very natural and relaxing. The physiological effect of music is part of what attracts me to it but it is also something that can affect my playing (rush, drag, over play, etc...). Tape echo in all its analog glory is hard, if not impossible, to replicate in the non-analog realm. I thought the RE-202 sounded really good. Looking forward to hearing it along side the Volante. Great show Leg Ends. Happy May Day and.....Cheers!

[@uelude]

Clever

[@mattgilbert7347]

The newer ones sound great. I'm pretty wedded to my Keeley Echoes (not the "Eccoes") for multi-head type tones, but the RE-2 would look tasty next to my Boss delays. The Keeley is a Binson-style unit. You can never have too many delays :) At times, the RE-202's repeats seemed a little bit "separate" from the dry signal, if that makes sense. The RE-20 was kinda organic. It's darker, no doubt. Suited to brighter amps & pickups, agree with Mick on this. I do appreciate the fidelity of the newer pedals. Bassbreaker sounding good here, goes great with the Vox. 34:54 El Medio Stomp yeah! Love it.

[@jean-philippemorin1176]

Leon Todd, has made great demos too. As well as Pete as you said.

[@chedhead3278]

Cheers guys, interesting to hear your take on these. FWIW, I think you made them sound better than I've heard before. I thought the RE-20 stood up pretty well, I'd probably dial the 202 in to sound pretty similar. 201 certainly has the real magic ... until it does a disappearing act, love one in the studio though. Have a nice weekend y'all.

[@TheNottheface]

congratulations on the strat Mick. Inspired by you guys - I purchased my '61 strat 3 years ago. So glad I did- couldn't afford one now! A fantastic instrument - enjoy.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Amazeballs! I texted Thomas Blug last night as, bizarrely, I was at a party with Andreas Kloppmann. Anyway, we are now all brothers in 61! Nice one!

[@jtcolecomedy]

Dan! Saw the Black Crowes a couple of times last summer and Rich Robinson was Teles/Gretsch into a fleet of AC30s with tape echoes and a treble booster. The sound of ages. A man cut from the same cloth as you it would seem! Absolutely mega sound played loud. Now I have to scrounge the funds for a multi-head echo...

[@ColinShanahan]

Cheers guys. Excellent video as always. As a Volante owner I’m really looking forward to next weeks video. I love the Volante but can’t stop wondering about the RE-202. The eternal struggle 🤯😂

[@paulwatson9217]

For me I would say that delay becomes reverb once you can no longer hear a defined repeat of the original sound source. That’s the best way I can describe it.

[@jimmytreatchestnut5860]

Just saw the intro, and I know it will be a great episode!!! What a sick play by Dan!!! I love it!

[@scottolgard]

Another great video! I'd be interested to see how close you can get with the dd-200 tape setting. Obvs you don't have the extra controls, but you would expect it to be able to get somewhere in the same vein

[@mattlionmusic]

I was just thinking about the dd20 and the tape algorithm!

[@Ottophil]

Close enough

[@mercuryradiotheater]

Thanks for playing the gretsch, there's something about a nice delay through filtertrons that's just magic.

[@adrianmiller1971]

There absolutely is *some* magic that happens there. I think the RE's just love a toppy Gretsch

[@jesperjacobsen3050]

I am absolutely in love with my RE-20. I agree that the fidelity of the 202 is above and beyond, but I can honestly see a place for both, as I'd imagine the 202 could be used as an outboard effect during mixing. Having said all that, I think you guys should look into the T-Rex Replicator D´Luxe Tape Echo. While not entirely comparable, I do think it warrants attention as a device somewhat similar in terms of what it does delay-wise. Thanks for a wonderful episode once again.

[@tompoynton]

They have featured it a few times over the years

[@KevinGreen-vx4ok]

Excellent demo vid excellent sound and advice

[@clubhouseregulars]

The difference between delay and 'verb was explained to me as being: delay = 'ordered' repeats and 'verb = 'random' repeats. This groks with the multi-head setting and the phasing/modulation artefacts approaching a perceived 'verb effect as aural complexity is compounded. The delay(s), however sped up and stacked up, will only ever approach 'verb because they are still fundamentally ordered repeats even with simulated reflections. Also points to the awesome, algorithmic mentalness of the great digital 'verb units in randomising the maths in a non-machine manner, being able to humanly 'emulate' space to our brains and yet be musically pleasant to the ear...man, there's some clever, clever dudes out there.

[@rkharper]

Big boss fan here, had the 202 probably as the first one in Switzerland, and.... Sold it a week later, wasn't that much better than my RE-20, so it had to go.

[@kierenmoore3236]

The 202 sounds so damn bright and digital. 😕

[@JasonMcFly]

Dan, you always sound great but you are particularly sublime on this video. Bravo! Mick rocks as always. This is the best RE video I've seen so far. Not a lot of guys can compare to a real 201

[@timothycallahan6234]

So, I just bought a full hollow archtop, an Ibanez AF71, and I was plugged in and playing today and I got a proper standing feedback from it. I started giggling like mad, it was amazing, and fun, and all I was doing was fiddling around with some open chords, and running a bit of drive, a compressor, distortion, and reverb. Great fun! Anyhow, off topic but I just wanted to share. You are quite inspiring. Love seeing that Gretsch, I guess I'm just a sucker for f-hole instruments!

[@ThatPedalShow]

YES! This is awesome Timothy. The feedback giggles!

[@drewdemaio4162]

Great video guys. Love your channel. Finally got my RE-202 and thought I'd just share this. I really wanted to be able to use the reverb by itself, which you can do, but only if you turn the echo volume down MANUALLY. My hope was that when I switch off the delay, the reverb could still be on regardless of echo volume or any other settings. I'm sure there is some sort of hack by using the presets or something but this is disappointing as I always leave reverb on. If anyone has a solid workaround, let me know!

[@dwaynedelario]

Another great vid, gents! I am headed across the pond tomorrow to spend a week recording at Abbey Road. I will be asking the engineers to comment on your mic techniques. 😛(of course it always sounds phenomenal).

[@ralvknights]

Love TPS. Im hungry for an Overdrive, Fuzz or other fx besides reverb. Loved the feedback dreamy tones of Dan's intro.

[@mattlionmusic]

The fidelity alone on the 202… not to mention the features!! Great explanation on what space/tape echo is and why it’s the best delay type. I’d love to see y’all compare the El Capistan in the next video! I know the volante has much more features but I adore my El Cap and I’d love to see how it holds up to other digital tape echo pedals. Maybe the timeline too. Cheers thanks for the amazing content. There’s something so sweet about that 201.. if only it were gig practical.

[@jacobrstout]

It would have been nice to get the NuX NDD-7 Tape Echo involved in this mix too. It sounds like a nice nod to the Boss Space Echo in some of the demos I have heard and it would be nice to see a budget piece of gear like that in your capable hands.

[@Daryl_Sweet]

These guys don't seem to do budget options as often anymore- Mooer pedals used to be common.

[@jacobrstout]

@@Daryl_Sweet I have been very impressed with the NuX pedals lately

[@MooCow2X2]

Hmm. Maybe we should bug them for NuX stuff. It seems to be a step up from mooer if you will. Maybe a “state of the budget pedal” episode is in order

[@NewFalconerRecords]

@@jacobrstout Me too. I've got the NuX Tape Core delay which is magnificent, the Mod Core multi-effects unit, (great for saving room on my live pedal board), and the ROCTary Leslie speaker pedal which is simply mad. Sooo good. Also got their version of the Klon (Horseman) and the JHS Morning Glory (Morning Star) -- super cheap but superb.

[@jacobrstout]

@@MooCow2X2 I like that idea, or a high and low budget of the same effect type of episode. I know Reverb has done those and it is nice to see some of the other options out there.

[@BenFentem]

Breaking out the proper in-ear monitors for this one so I can get the best the tube has to offer! Excited for this one :)

[@jmsclbwmn]

I just love Roland/Boss delays. Have an RE-301 Chorus Echo, Echo Fix EF-X2, Boss DD-500, and Boss RV-500. Really thinking about picking up an RE-202. Could be my main delay for the foreseeable future…

[@eaglerayrob]

I was taught that the human ear starts to discern a reflected sound as a separate sound as opposed to a tail of the original sound happens at approximately 25ms. So, I always think of reverb as sound reflections that reach the ear in less than 25ms and delay as reflected sounds that reach the ear at greater than 25ms. This is useful when dialing in "fill" speaker delay.

[@mattgilbert7347]

That might explain why a "doubling" effect using delay occurs at around 30ms

[@zandig666]

Just bought one thanks for the deep dive boys !!!🤟🤟

[@RedRose4711]

Great intro playing Dan!

[@fletches4084]

202 looks/sounds like a nice bit of kit. Still can't break the desire for a proper vintage Echorec though.

[@ianpullman203]

This probably does 90% of what you'd look for with the sounds but to me, they all miss the unique characteristics of deterioration and random artifacts and peculiar 'misfirings' that a true tape delay has that makes it, well, unpredictable, but also desirable. The one thing that you can say is the upgrade and big check mark is the reliability and functionality that will probably stay solid for many years to come. I baby my RE-201 and hold my breath every time I turn it on.

[@NoCoverCharge]

Got one on backorder can’t wait to get it

[@coloneltrumpman]

I was thinking of getting myself the new RE 202 but after watching this video I'm getting the RE20! Either the RE202 thins out the ORIGINAL guitar sound or the RE20 makes it fuller and beefier? RE20 less gimmicks but a far better sound!

[@kierenmoore3236]

Agreed. The 202 (and 2, presumably?) sounds like an overly-bright mess, a lot of the time … 😕

[@gordonrankin3995]

Ahhh I am number 666 like... Pretty much the way the day is going! I tell you I have struggled with reverb for years (not a digital fan, not an in amp fan) and the MXR Carbon Copy dials all at 11 gives me some nice air. Saw Steve Hackett do the entire Genesis Seconds Out last night (4/28/22) and he had some stellar reverb/space echo/sustain! Tone was really great, he had dual Engl amps tons of pedals. Wish I could have gotten a peak at his board. Why is it that I am back and forth to Reverb checking on prices on pedals during these shows? :) Ok still in need of some sort of reverb. Back to the recording room and setup up some analog ones. Thanks you guys great video!

[@liamballsculpture]

I do like the sound of these effects, classic and on so many recordings , but still fresh sounding when played in the right way . I think the new re2o2 sounds the best overall and being digital you don’t have to worry it’s gonna work as much 👍 nice one guys!

[@russianmusicgear]

for me personally re-20 is the best delay pedal ever. it's super convenient, reliable and sounds better than any digital delays i've heard. and it self oscillates. rhythmic delays with this pedal are just jam. and i can hear from this comparison that it sits in the mix better and more upfront that the newer version, which is more sofisticated. but is it better in a band situation? i'm not so sure.

[@BaritoneOneFive]

I love the way a Gretsch goes into feedback with a little push on the bar!

[@BlueSkyDogs]

I live the delay days. Great show gentlemen. I had an idea earlier about "That No pedal show" what can you do plugged straight into the amps...not your thing I know but it could get "Interesting" cheers B

[@ThatPedalShow]

We’ve done that - it’s called I Hate Pedals. I think. Cheers!

[@eoinjennings519]

Already bought looking forward to the ideas !

[@ampdrum1]

Drummer Steve here. I just ordered the RE-2 from Andertons cause they haven't landed in the states yet. I collect amps, have a Moog, 3 guitars, a bass, multiple pedals, etc. The the reason I watch your show and collect gear is how to get studio sounds. Big recording project this year and I need every advantage. Thanks mates!

[@tcause]

Headroom of the 201 and the resulting integrity of the core tone. It’s a bit night and day to my ears. Mick, Dan... recording quality/naturalness has really come up a level. Great job.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Tony. We’ve been working on it a while, but this is the first episode ever where there is no post EQ or digital plugins of any kind on the guitars. All straight from the mic pres. Not that we ever did much post… but still. Feels like a small win in our progress! Cheers!

[@RobFlaxMusic]

Oh. The Hall and Plate are fantastic as standalone reverb pedals too. I imagine with the presets you've replaced a reverb pedal on your own. The "Ambience," to my ears, sounded like what Mick calls "every reverb pedal."

[@taloujazz9504]

Very interesting explanations thanks because it's not so easy to understand the process of playback heads

[@adalbertoschuckjr.1509]

Bull's Eye...I was anxious to see again your Roland Space Echo...By the way, The RE-201 is unbeatable...

[@jesseleite]

Thank you guys so much for this deep dive! I'm late to the party here (given that I was one of the guys who asked you to compare the 202 and 20 in a Q&A months ago), but this was really helpful for guys like us who can't afford to buy the 202, the 20, and the 201, just for the sake of comparison! PS. Hope you fellas are well

[@stevefearon9337]

Be interesting to hear the UA STARLIGHT algo in with the volanta, boss etc.if you have not already filmed it. Enjoyed that show. Thankyou

[@jansonrawlings8169]

Man I wouldn’t be surprised if the 201 in the starlight is the same exact algorithm inside of the re-20 and 202. You probably know this already, but UAD worked with boss and had the Roland re-201 plugin. Their contract ran out and they renamed the plug-in “galaxy echo.” Idk, galaxy-starlight? Would be interesting to investigate this conspiracy theory of mine haha

[@stevefearon9337]

@@jansonrawlings8169 welll wouldn’t you know if the sun of a gun was flat all along… gotta love a well rounded conspiracy. Fascinating!! Thankyou

[@hoboroadie4623]

The RE-201 is so stylish, I always wanted one. My friend Art Najera has one, and it seems like Joe Satriani had one back when he was playing with The Squares. (All I could really focus on was that he had three (3!) Boss Pedals on the floor, a mind-blowing expense on batteries back in those days.) Anyway, seems that the Space Echo is actually way more artistic than I am. Maybe I will get an RE-2, but I'm going to keep saving up for that Fulltone SSTE.

[@taloujazz9504]

My favorite Roland Boss effect, thanks guys. Even better with Gibson ES 335 in Fender Deluxe Reverb ;) but awesome with Gretsch and Vox

[@onenotesolo256]

The last noodles from Mick - I was surprised at how different (and greater, to my ears), the 201 sounded (through studio headphones and DAC anyway). All great boxes; the 201 smashed it.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yep. It’s a very different thing for sure! Cheers!

[@DaveAndStuff]

Great episode! I'd be curious to hear how the dd-500 and rv-500 emulations stack up.

[@tompoynton]

seconded

[@PuRe_AdDicT]

I had an RV500 and now I have 202 The RV500 version sounded quite digital, the saturation here is key.

[@hendrix1175]

Your demo is amazing!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks!