That Pedal Show - Octave Pedals For Everyone!

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In this episode Daniel and Mick introduce you to six octave pedals that each have a unique take on the genre. Please note, we’re not dealing with Octave Fuzz in this episode - this is about octave down and up… and polyphonic octave generators. Let’s go…
Pedals In This Episode…
• Digitech Whammy 5
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• EHX Micro POG
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• EHX POG2
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• TC Electronic Sub’N’Up
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• T-Rex Quint Machine
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• Boss OC-3 Super Octave
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• Fulltone OCD V7
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• Strymon El Capistan
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
• Boss OC-3 Super Octave discussion and sounds: 3:08 & 34:56
• Digitech Whammy 5 discussion and sounds: 6:23
• Electro-Harmonix POG2 discussion and sounds: 9:48
• Electro-Harmonix Micro POG discussion and sounds: 19:02
• TC Electronic discussion and sounds: Su b’N’Up: 21:51
• T-Rex Quint discussion and sounds: 28:45
• All on at once/World War III… 40:30
Guitars in this episode
Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
Gretsch G6118T-LIV Players Edition Anniversary
Amps this episode
Fender Super Reverb Reissue with 4x10 Jensen P10R speakers
• Victory The Sheriff 44 with V212VH cabinet
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[@shaunm1983]

the black sides on the Gretsch just make it look so much cooler than other Gretsch guitars.

[@DerbyCityRockCo]

Stinkfist2000 No joke! And matte?

[@icenic_wolf]

Something you didn't go over with the Sub'n'up that's super cool - using the (free!) toneprint editor, you can reassign what the knobs do, and even assign multiple things to the same knob. For example, if you never use sub2, you could have the first half of that knob to take it from 'clean' to '+80% drive', and then the second half to sweep through phaser/modulation. What I like to do is set the first "half" of the range of each knob to go from 0% to 100% volume, and then the second half of the range of each knob to add drive to that octave -- but there are so many options that it's ridiculous. I could be typing this comment until next Thursday and still not have time to explain all of the stuff you can do with it. Great video as always. Cheers! -Jeff

[@icenic_wolf]

I should add that you can only reassign what the knobs do when it's in 'toneprint' mode -- they go back to 'normal' when you flip the switch to poly or classic modes (and then back to however you set them when you go back to your custom toneprint).

[@91Fusion]

IIRC, one of TC's Toneprints has done that too, with sub2 mapped to control the amount of modulation. Just another great feature of the Toneprint technology. :)

[@icenic_wolf]

Yes, and it's a good one -- but you're not limited to what they've done (although that one's a reasonable place to start from when making your own).

[@BiggSteve777]

GUYS! GUYS! GUYS!!! You didn't go over my favorite part of the OC-3. (sorry... favourite) In the 'POLY' mode, the 3rd knob attenuates which frequencies are fed into the octaver. Turning it left of 10 o'clock or so, you can play a finger picking style and only have the lowest notes octave down. It's like Jon Gromm said in his Roland UK demo... "It's like having the worlds most boring bass player but also the world's most reliable bass player"

[@jeffbateman2339]

Yeah... You looked over one of the coolest features of that Boss pedal!

[@samwisegrangee]

Ultimately, I want a micro POG with that selective frequency function. I always wished my OC-3 also had an octave up.

[@kenjanssen6550]

Would you say the OC-3's tones are more accurate replications of the guitar tones? As opposed to the POG2 which is organ-y sounding?

[@drdre4397]

I own the oc3 and couldn't be happier, the drive sound on it blended with the octave is just such a great sound. Can't believe it took me this long to get into octave stuff.

[@DerbyCityRockCo]

Daniel yelling "AWESOME! I LOVE THIS!" at 28:02 is everyone that's tried the Sub N Up. I loooooove mine, and at the lowest pricepoint of the (polyphonic) bunch.

[@nikdsh]

At 8:42 I expected Dan to say "that's how they did the R2-D2 sound effects" :D

[@alexsawyer7313]

I literally thought the same thing!

[@secretreleases]

same!

[@ryanspencerlauderdale687]

Some of it does sound like BB-8.

[@hittingnote75]

A 70s synth

[@lueysixty-six7300]

It was a RATM solo. And you call yourselves guitarists! ...Shame! Lol - but seriously, look it up.

[@colourofsounduk]

Guys, you should've got the EHX Pitchfork. That is the go-to for me on octave and harmony. The latch function is ace too

[@dukeplow]

Yes! And the intelligent harmony machine. It has the pitch fork octave generator plus the harmony.

[@neuk01642]

RATM on a Gretsch... brilliant...

[@ThatPedalShow]

+neuk01642 hahahaha

[@chrisdavison7569]

litterally the best thing on you tube!

[@neuk01642]

That Pedal Show There has to be a spin off special of tunes played on highly inappropriate guitars. Reign in Blood on a ES330, Giant Steps on a BC Rich Mockingbird... Djenting on a Country Gent...

[@TheJLQ]

neuk01642 I want to see the Gretsch Country Djent!

[@neuk01642]

Joseph Quinlan I am going to be spending a weekend imagine what that would be like... a 7 string semi hollow tuned to drop B... with a Bigsby and Filtertrons... I buy it!!

[@dimensionalineage]

Best bloody gear channel on KZbin: great playing, sweet tones, sexy gear, solid video/audio production, pleasant personalities and chemistry between those personalities. Always enjoy Mick's animated facial expressions to Dan's in-the-zone tonal explorations. Comedic gold at 22:49. Fantastic.

[@Chubsticks]

The Digitech Whammy always puts a smile on my face. It's just so fun. One pedal that created Tom Morello's entire rig.

[@lueysixty-six7300]

8:52 Mick might have missed it, but I caught the RATM solo, Daniel! Jolly Good Show!!👏

[@ColinCampbell85]

It sounded like every one of these altered the clean tone. I would love to see Strymon "perfect" the octave effect with their digital brain/analog heart approach. Also, octave pedals in the effects loop of a delay can be pretty incredible. Thanks for your good work guys!

[@paulcowart3174]

I picked up the Deco and just couldn't bond with it Should have gotten the Flint or ElCap

[@joemom1012]

if it was clean it would be shimmer reverb pedal

[@wychwoodmusic]

...Strymon is pretty much all-digital, so far as I know. Chase Bliss is the one that popularized the phrase/philosophy "digital brain, analog heart," I believe

[@mccalltrader]

Holy crap! I need one! Isn't it the case, that if a pedal inspires you, it is worth getting, and if doesn't, keep looking until you find one that does...and then make that sweet sweet music!

[@Scratch_Monsters_Golf]

The fact that Electro-Harmonix manages to get folks to pay $350 for a box that makes your guitar sound like a seven cat gang bang in a church organ is impressive. Give the head of marketing a raise 👌🏼

[@johnstudiob2481]

agree totally

[@theslayerofgoblins849]

Seven cat gangbang..baaahahaha

[@peteludwig7256]

For people that are really going to use it it's a great effect, but that's a pretty small portion of who buys one

[@riff_radar]

Dude I needed this laugh so bad today. Literally brought me to tears 😂

[@TsiratiugZ]

I can no longer watch this channel. Because of Dan, I have just purchased a Gretsch G6118T and now my wife isn't speaking to me.

[@randallmontgomery4147]

TsiratiugZ I hear ya brother. I'm debating doing the same thing. I got that fever and the solution is more Gretsch!!!!

[@IamKrisJones]

That guitar is a thing of beauty! Love is overrated anyways! :-P

[@placidbomb6654]

tell your wife "I can always sell my guitar, but you my love, you are priceless."

[@sussezqt.1439]

Am I the only one that has this problem with a husband???!!!

[@DannyBrooks1]

placidbomb That only works when you over buy the first time. 😂

[@JoePerkinsMusic]

Do you know of any octave pedals which are entirely analog? Think I came across one by a small USA company once but can't remember who it was!

[@pravabe6602]

you guys, every time I watch one of your videos, I get inspired to play guitar and mess around with my pedals. thank you guys

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Prav Abe Perfect! That's the best thing anyone can ever say. Thanks for watching!

[@MichaelJacksonguitar]

They forgot my favorite feature of the Boss OC-3. The poly mode, where you can split the signal into a guitar and bass amp and separate. Fun stuff.

[@OscarRichardson]

Guys you missed the real magic of the OC-3, in poly mode the third knob becomes a LP filter and you can choose the point at which it stops triggering the octaves, allowing you to grab a chord and only get an octave on the bottom note. Also, the OC-3 in normal mono mode has 1 octave down and 2 octaves down, not 1 down and 1 up.

[@Redchet81]

Oscar Richardson exactly, like Gilad Hekselman explains in a Reverb.com vid..

[@satch4u3]

LOL 2:26!! And the look on Mick's face afterward. I literally LOL'd!

[@marcuskruse1]

Thanks for having a TC Electronic pedal on the show :)

[@tompoynton]

Marcus Kruse yeah they don't seem to get much love on here do they

[@gabe2869]

+Tom Poynton Mick had two on his desert island board

[@tompoynton]

Gabe Elias yeah I remember that because it really stood out!

[@MrBingping]

+Tom Poynton well the reason is that they are a compromise. They're extremely versatile and easy to use, but because if that the tone is a compromise, just due to the nature of the technology. A one trick pony will do that one trick better than a super versatile thing does that one thing

[@MrBingping]

+Tom Poynton for someone who wants a lot of sounds easily accessible, they're great, for someone who just wants one sound, a specific pedal will be better. I actually used a tc flashback to figure out what kind of delay I liked and when I decided that tape was my favorite, I bought a roland re-150 space echo

[@linoalcaraz5407]

Man you guys don’t know how much you’ve helped me learn about pedals. Thanks to you guys and a few other really good KZbinrs I have an amazing pedalboard and much more knowledge on how everything works. Thank you for doing what you guys do! I need that shirt!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Lino Alcaraz ah, that’s awesome L, so glad you’ve made good use of the info :)

[@intrsoul]

Whammy 5: try an acoustic guitar with a 3rd or 6th interval plus dry. Use the pedal to tune the harmony to the key as you play different notes. Sounds like an acoustic B-bender :)

[@jhut5150]

The TC Electronic has to be the best bang for your buck. With the ability to switch between polyphonic, classic (mono), and toneprint modes, nothing else touches it. To my ears, it also sounds more natural and less synthy than the others. I've owned both of the EHX offerings shown here and while they are great, I got rid of them and went for the Sub'n'Up. No regrets at all.

[@patriotpizzaman]

The Sub n' up wins the day for me! The Pog was cool as well but, I'm in the market for a Sub N' Up now!

[@beeflin]

Not sure whether you read comments on old videos, but I really want to draw your attention to a very versatile harmoniser pedal which does much more than the T-Rex Quint - the Donner Harmonic Square (I'm not being paid or induced to tell you this by the way, I'm genuinely knocked out by it) - 1 & 2 octaves, major 2nd, minor and major 3rd, 4th & 5th - up OR down - and with separate volume knobs for wet and dry you can use it as a capo or detuner. The only limitation is that it only does 1 dry and 1 wet signal maximum. But I really think it's outstanding and incredibly versatile.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Nice! Thanks Steve. We should search it out.

[@joecritch]

Ha that little Wicked Game lick was ace.

[@adriangonciarz]

That Wicked Games lick!

[@jade5773]

that was funny!

[@joshdv4833]

I'm at work and watch this on my breaks throughout the day. I really hope someone plays the solo from "owner of a lonely heart" on the fuzz episode should one ever come! Love the show guys!

[@Loscha]

The Boss OC2 and OC3 are very different. OC2 has a divider which turns on and off your signal in alternating waveforms to produce a very particular kind of 1 or 2 octave down. The OC3 is like the Pog2, It's a digital re-synthesis of your sound.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Edward Jones yes, I was just using the OC3 on OC2 mode to demonstrate what the OC2 sounded like. I explained the difference between analog octave triggering and digital recreation as well

[@Loscha]

I saw that bit, it was a good explaination! Perhaps the only glaring omission I saw to the lineup was the MXR Blue Box with it's 2 octaves down square wave output. I'm sure there's a toneprint for that, though.

[@aixpert291]

Edward Jones yeah, Edward! Curse you and all of your, like, knowledge and stuff! 😂

[@smehtarocks]

Listening to Dan playing RATM on a Gretch first thing in the morning. Sounds like it's gonna be a good day :)

[@coreymineard]

The TC Sub-n-up and the Micro POG are very tempting. Thank you gents once again for another informative yet entertaining video!

[@yosephmcjoe9575]

Dan's Rage at the beginning, love it! On a Semihollow Gretsch no less, perfect. Can't wait till we hear that beaut's story

[@kmhMESA]

The second I heard that fifth octave on the Quint, I was like "Owner of a Lonely Heart!!!"

[@Jeb4100]

By Yes

[@kmhMESA]

@@Jeb4100 that's the one

[@Jeb4100]

@@kmhMESA hehe

[@Jeb4100]

I like Roundabout too

[@TomServo_MST3K]

Hey guys. Just an idea suggestion for a future show. How about an "introductory info" show that focuses on detailing and explaining the basics of pedal technology for those of us who are newer to effects? It's great to pull out individual pedals and hit upon the end result of what that individual pedal will and won't do for your tone and how it'll react with various signal chain configurations and profiles, but how about hitting the broader focus of why and how certain pedal types function in the first place? For example, go into what the difference between silicon and germanium diodes do and why, or what "bucket brigade" means when a particular chorus pedal advertises uses the term. In short, devote a show to clearing up the geeky basics of electrical engineering and explaining how those basics will determine how you can get a basic understanding of what a particular pedal might sound like and be capable of even if you've never heard it in action.

[@JonathanMPriceMusic]

I died laughing at the "Spinal Tap!" reference! Hahaha. Spot on.

[@BeThisBell]

Thanks, the Sub N Up seems like a cool & useful pedal, particularly with the tone print functionality. Dan, since you have an AC30, try running the Boss OC-3 SuperOctave in Poly mode, turning up the direct and effected sound knobs all the way up, setting the range knob at about 1/4 of the way up ... and try that on your AC30. Unlike all the other octave pedals you demo in this video, in Poly mode, the Boss OC-3 only affects some of the lower notes, but not the higher notes - the range knob works as a filter - so you can literally dial in only wanting everything below an A note only being effected or everything below a C note, or F#, etc. So by just setting it to only emphasize your very lowest bass notes on your guitar, it has a really cool effect of beefing up your AC30s low tones in a very usable, seamless, and transparent kind way that can just be left on all the time to help the amp's tonality. Sort of like being able to put the bass range beefiness back into your AC30. I find it works great, but have a go & let us know! Cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+BeThisBell Art Collective wow! I'll need to check that out

[@markferguson3745]

Somehow, the POG gets more attention, but the Pitchfork is the best octave/ pitch pedal available, IMO.Expression pedal option puts it ahead of the POG, reliability,sound quality, tracking, and cost put it ahead of the Whammy. Always useful info.

[@andyjm7122]

I found that the Pitchfork sucked so my tone away from my guitar, otherwise it was decent as a bass simulator. My digitech multifx rp255 did a better job actually.

[@markferguson3745]

@@andyjm7122 I'm currently using the MXR Poly Blue, which is a def improvement on the Pitchfork's bypass issues. I always had the EHX in a true bypass looper, so I could remove it from the chain when not in use.

[@jakobsteve8710]

Digitech Whammy 5 is by far the best pedal i have ever bought!! I use it for detuning, as well as various PanterA or Damageplan- dimebag used 2 digitech whammy 1st gen's during damageplan.

[@bigupbebop4706]

That POG 2 is Jon Lord and Blackmore combined in one pedal. What's not to like??

[@cosmictrailblazer]

Rage on a Gretsch... YES!!!! Loved this demo guys. Cheers!

[@mattheweastel129]

“Literally MINUTES of fun!” Thanks Mick 😂 This is really useful for me, I play in a duo and I think I can find some applications to help fill out our sound. Superb!

[@TsiratiugZ]

Also check out EHX Pitch Fork as it also gives you many of the in-between intervals, both up and/or down.

[@melihkaleciklioglu]

2:26 man that was smooth

[@IamKrisJones]

Just when I'm thinking of getting an octave pedal. Was already thinking of the TC Sub n Up. This sold me. Thanks guys!

[@flatsix666]

My 'That Pedal Show' T-shirt arrived yesterday and very very splendid it is too! Shall wear it to the pub on Sunday!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Kossofffan Yes! Members of the opposite sex will verily flock, such is the awesomeness of its attracting powers.

[@Robstafarian]

Nonsense! The shirt knows your proclivities and adjusts accordingly, no app required!

[@Adipsia1]

Love the POG2. Jon Lord is alive and kicking on your pedal-board. God bless him !

[@scblds7496]

Right on guys. Y'all made hurricane Matthew a bit more bearable this Friday am! Cheers from Florida!

[@nsiepmann]

That flangy Toneprint sounded GREAT. Relatedly, I've recently started to enjoy the sound of an octave pedal going into some kind of spring-ish reverb - it kind of rounds off the jankiness of the up-octave sounds, and sounds very cool on swells.

[@stevebees3992]

That's the best 'all pedals on' sound to date! 😆

[@papakefis4252]

Octave pedals before or after distortion/Fuzz pedals? Thanks for any given answer. Cheers

[@repomanband]

Mick really gets the hang of it halfway through. I recently got a micro POG. What about that sound Slash gets in Velvet Revolver's "Slither"?

[@paulcowart3174]

Good to see a recent comment Yeah thinking in a Micro Pog Can you get a good clean but fatter tone w mix low Of course w touch of delay and whatnot but looking for ways to change up my clean tone The MP would be easy changing up to different sounds on the fly. Thanks

[@repomanband]

@@paulcowart3174 I don't know I didn't think of using it clean but I'm more of a rhythm player. In other news, looks like Slash is in drop-D for "Slither".

[@allfortonechannel8979]

Hey everybody. I discovered something that may or may not be of use to you depending on your rig. I bought a SubNUp yesterday, and tried it out cuz it sounded amazing on many videos. I love TC, but it did not work well in my rig. The tracking was awkward for the lower octave, sub 2 did work well at all, and the higher octave was a bit harsh. I'm running into a Roland JC style and and playing with Seymour Duncan humbuckers. The classic mode on this pedal didn't track well. Slow melodic picking around hitting open G with other notes ringing out created an odd sound. Ambient drones and swells were bad too. Dialed in a few cool tones, but I had to return the pedal. Maybe octave pedals are not for me? Maybe I won't like the POG either? Either way, I'm content with not getting a new pedal so I had nothing to lose. Idk, but I hope that helps. It's all about your rig, but know the pedal didn't create a satisfactory sound quality in my opinion.

[@allfortonechannel8979]

*I must admit, watching this vid changes my mind. lol. They always get such great tone!!!!

[@haakman123]

EHX has the HOG which has a 5th, and an octave+5th and a octave+3rd

[@leocomerford]

The EHX Pitch Fork www.ehx.com/products/pitch-fork offers a lot of different intervals too.

[@robertthomas2117]

2 Octaves and the 3rd, on mine that slider is usually all the way down.

[@MrYiadi]

Boss has the armonizer.

[@countjulu]

The great thing about the micro POG is that it has a seperate effect out, so you can send the octave down to a bass amp, or when you play bass the octave up through some effects and a guitar amp.

[@teamtamer]

Aren't WET *and* + DRY outputs standard on most octave pedals?

[@paulcowart3174]

Not sure but that seems a good idea

[@aaronpage5374]

All i was thinking was Jack White and the white stripes.

[@vibecheck4581]

And mike. Kerr from Royal blood😂

[@markferguson3745]

Add Tom Morello , and you have the reason why everyone seems to have one.And maybe, now, Royal Blood. One of those tools you try when nothing else is working.

[@hugobasualdo3743]

Great video guys! Thx! Please excuse my English. I've been using whammy for several years now but I can't get the most of it because I can't really find where it works better in the chain. For example, I found that in the harmony section I prefer to plug my guitar directly into it because it tracks the pitch better. But in whammy mode (as I use my second channel of my lonestar) i feel it works better in the FX loop. So it's rare. Because if I use distortion before the harmonizer it sounds like a double guitar... that's ok but when I use the second channel of the amp the amp is breaking the doubled signal which doesn't sound quite good. Would you recommend using it in the FX loop? Or in both cases in front of the amp? In this example were you running the distortion pedal before or after the whammy? Thanks again!

[@michael_caz_nyc]

Wow - That POG 2. I will bet . . . you could ( probably ) play: Styx "Blue Collar Man" or Yes "Parallels" on guitar with the Pog 2. Two High Powered MASSIVE ORGAN Sounds.

[@spankymacfarlan]

Where would you put the Sub N Up (or Octavers in general) on the pedal board? Also, where would you put a pedal such as the Boss Harmonist on a pedal board? Ie: I mean, where would you place both the afore mentioned pedals on a board both, in relation to each other but, also, specifically in relation to Wah, Fuzz Face (Silicone), Tube Screamer, Modulation pedals (phaser, flanger and Rotovibe) Delay (I have both a digital delay pedal and an analogue delay pedal) Reverb and Compression? (I also have a volume pedal and an EQ pedal on the board). I use a 100 watt Marshall valve state with a Fender Strat, Fender Tele, Epiphone Les Paul (with Seymour Duncan humbuckers) and a Gretsch Electromatic. Primarily aiming for a late 60s early 70s Rock sound: Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Townshend, Wayne Kramer, Kossoff, Neil Young, Mick Taylor, etc, etc, etc.

[@nickmelander5959]

Can you damage a speaker by using an octave pedal at high volumes? Sometimes my POG makes my amp vibrate so much that it moves across the floor.

[@thesphericalguy9018]

Nick Melander I would say yes

[@stario]

if you really wanna cause damage, see DOD's Meat Box :)

[@JamesJLaRue]

Dan's faces at the beginning while he's looking at Mick....cracked me up.

[@neuk01642]

All on together reminds me of a My Bloody Valentine concert

[@highpeakrecordings]

exactly what I thought.

[@clintmarvin7754]

No mention of running an octave through the loop of a delay, like a Memory Man, with the drive off for octave up (or down) repeats. Good video. I need to listen again with better speakers.

[@MintyBitesBack]

I know this is a silly question... but I was always told not to put a bass guitar through a guitar amp as it would shake the speaker and break it pretty quickly... Wouldn't an octave pedal potentially trash your speakers as it puts notes of the same octave in place as a bass guitar...??

[@rafsbio]

I always thought about that. A lower octave can produce some farty and flabby speaker distortion... My guess would be that permanent physical damage to the speakers would happen only at REALLY loud volumes...

[@ThatPedalShow]

+MintyBitesBack Proceed with caution, say we. The amp will let you know when it's starting to get unhappy. :0)

[@alonso2037]

I think bass guitars have a different frequency of a guitar with an octave pedal, that's why octavers do no harm

[@Robstafarian]

Synth effects have far more fundamental frequency content, generally speaking, thus they pose a greater danger to speakers operating outside of their typical frequency spectrum.

[@MintyBitesBack]

Maybe not such a silly question then!

[@mgbasinski]

Just seeing this now (having acquired a mini Sub'n'up), I was wondering about discussion of whether the octave pedal should be before drive or after - I think in this video it was all *after* the drives? Guess the standard guidance applies here (try it both ways and see which way I like better...). Just wondered whether you guys had any other comment on it?

[@ThatPedalShow]

Always Mark, although we prefer it generally after gain, before can also be a great sound

[@mgbasinski]

Thanks!

[@SGTMcCmuffin]

Where is all the Walrus? The Luminary is one of the best octave generators out there

[@geoffreysahs7650]

Mick's Jam around 20:40 was absolutely brilliant!

[@alanredversangel]

OC-3 into a dirt pedal/dirty amp beats any of the digital sub octavers in my experience. It's feels a lot more direct. Love that pedal.

[@p_1210]

Alan Angel but it’s digital too!

[@Chord_The_Seeker]

I had an ART DR-X rack multi effects processor back in the early 90's. It did the 5th thing that the T-Rex does. I never used it really, but it was there 25 years ago.

[@ElHijoDePerla]

Recently got a micropog, but now i NEED a subnup haha! Great show guys! Following here from Uruguay! Cheers!

[@thomasraven]

So many pedals, so little time. I'd like to know how the EHX Pitchfork compares to the Pog. It seems like it does a lot more. I'm also interested in octave fuzzzzzzzzz.

[@jayfoster]

The quint has a 5th to simulate organ drawbars which offer perfect 5th intervals in addition to octaves

[@kevinr.3542]

So interesting. I look at comment sections for nuggets of info like that. I wouldn't have actually noticed that other than subconsciously. Nor have I ever considered that organs can produce a perfect 5th overtone, yet now I can't believe I missed that.

[@TNTales]

Do you guys ever hook your TC Electronic pedals to the computer? You can edit those additional modulations and set which knobs handle which adjustments. Check out the TonePrint Editor they have.

[@napalmhardcore]

With the "all on" part, surely the frequency response of the amp and cabs limit the effect. The day someone tries stacking several octave pedals and jams through a full range system with a giant sub will be the day the brown note is discovered and everyone within half a mile sh... You get the idea.

[@teamtamer]

[@NotAlNorm]

Brown Note….😂

[@CliveBarnesMusic]

As a Gretsch/Filtertron player, thank you so much for using said instrument...! Different pick ups react to different pick ups and the filtertron is a niche largely forgotten among the single coil and the humbucker brigade

[@randysosa7616]

When the Guitar Center employee asks if I'm finding everything alright 14:02

[@mikaelsc]

2:26 that quote and that face! Priceless...

[@GK-mm3nz]

Definitely the most successful "all on" yet. Now I just need to go change...

[@numanuma20]

I’ve been looking at octave pedals to create the bass guitar while playing guitar when recording. This is the best video and the first one I actually watch through the whole end.

[@seb5542]

I use 2 amps for it

[@seb5542]

Have the octave pedal running through one and the rest of it through another. It's bloody mental

[@glambelin]

Hi guys!... Even if I'm a bass player, I learn so much from your show!.... BUT!... :-) Do you have a mate/bass player as fun as you to join the show?... Thank you so much for your passion!....

[@hailtz]

Yes!

[@smiggy1968]

No amps or speakers were harmed in the making of this video! Great job Gents!

[@TheWiccanGirl]

Could you do a video on attenuators or dialling in a good tone at low bedroom volumes? Taaaa

[@Robstafarian]

Look into resistor-based attenuators which do a good job a creating a reactive load, like the Rivera RockCrusher. Personally, I plan to go with a true reactive load via the Weber MASS III. To avoid putting undue stress on your amp, do not use an attenuator to bring a gunned amp down to bedroom volume: use the attenuator to bring the “it is alive” volume down to tolerable levels.

[@bubbakav]

Have a POG2. Ability to go from subtle to sublime - and to use the presets - makes this a very versatile addition to the pedalboard. Thanks for this video. Really enjoy your work!

[@feargalosullivan542]

Now if you sold an Edmond VonHolen T shirt I'd buy that!

[@rorschach1]

I'll buy one

[@SamVieiraGuitar]

Nice! At the beginning of the vid Mick said "this is not an octavia episode..." but they end up getting almost the same sounds as an octavia at the end which sounded the best!!!

[@thomascampbell5755]

I absolutely love this channel... I've no big music stores near my home (which is pretty good, I try to support smaller shops) and you need to hear what sounds can be achieved with what source and I find you guys through Andertons channel and I'm in Love! rock on from stormy South Carolina.

[@jameshalbert181]

I love how Nick Mick started Sissy Strut to avoid copyright strike

[@xxcelr8rs]

I bought ten expensive effects pedals in the last 6 months because of these two Englishmen.Excellent reviews, side by side comparisons, history lessons of gear. The Ventilator II in stereo best decision I ever made, or maybe the C9, or was it the deluxe epoch tape delay from Caitlainbread? I didn't know what a ditto was a year ago. Thank you.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ouch! Sounds like we cost you a bit of cash Brian. But it’s all good we hope - the inspiration flows!

[@AqmalShah]

Really miss that gretsch. Sounds awesome!

[@Jmboucher]

Great show as always guys! Thank you. So I have a POG 2 after all the drive pedals but BEFORE delay and modulation. I thought I heard Dan say to put delay into it. Should the POG be at the end of the chain?

[@sam_uelson]

feel free to post your dogs reactions to the whammy pedal below

[@TonyHawkTuah]

I like my wha. I like my mommy ! And I like my Whammy !

[@luckyllou7325]

haggai samuelson hahaha my Dog is running in Circles just in that moment Mick makes some crazy noise....

[@RomeoSierra83]

Tom Morello is the obvious choice for examples of the Whammy, for my money though David Gilmour puts this pedal to incredible use. Particularly on the sublime 'Marooned' from The Division Bell.

[@Ak3r0n]

27:30 Dan is always a sucker for flanger

[@sssup]

does anyone knwo which toneprint he used to get that? I went through every single one currently on the app and couldnt find that same sound.

[@matthewdcarver]

thank you, this finally explained the differences in dept.

[@isaidgooddaysir2585]

I wanna hear each and every one of these pedals through a Korg Miku.

[@PedalExperiments]

I think you'd like my channel. 😉

[@ripplebear]

Aww you both still have your mums, how sweet. I miss mine lol 😊

[@sonic7184]

You guys actually took my suggestion. HOW AWESOME! Seriously, I love you guys :3 (But why put the overdrive before the Octave pedal? I think it'd be better after)

[@puffdragon26]

thank you guys for doing this video. It obviously is not as personally satisfying as doing the Binson echorec for example, but without it your encyclopedia of knowledge would be incomplete. so thank you ........

[@TonyHookedonVanlife]

that TC Electronic sub pedal looked amazing with the Toneprint thing- I immediately paused the video, went to the Google Play store and there was nothing but people complaining about how exceedingly BAD the Android version was... :0( **sigh**

[@ThatPedalShow]

+tony93666 No comment on how shite Android is. Never used it.

[@TonyHookedonVanlife]

That Pedal Show Android itself works great, but in porting apps over from iOS(supposing an app was natively designed for iOS), things have to be encoded differently, and sometimes that doesn't always come off so well. The same things unfortunately happen for video games as well, Xbox to pc, etc.

[@hairychris444]

TC also do a PC (and maybe a Mac) program that allows you to push TonePrints via USB. It also has an editor so you can build your own. I have a HoF and a Flashback x4 and there's lots of stuff (like modulation) that's not available from the pedal's front panel.

[@hairychris444]

With the delay you can get really crazy, like >100% feedback as you can program in the upper and lower values for the on-pedal controls.

[@mcmillanalex]

I have three TC Electronic pedals and have never had a problem using the tone print amp with an Android device.

[@yugiohllavaneras]

Hi Dan and Mick, I'd like to know where do you put the sub'n'up in the video, before or after the drive? Thanks guys !

[@valoisa]

All the octave pedals on: Trent Reznor finds out about doom metal.

[@miserablecherry7651]

i could watch you guys all day everyday