Can Two Prince Of Tone Overdrives Sound Like One King Of Tone? - That Pedal Show

[@FranklinD]

I worked at Analogman 15 years ago and can personally say Mike takes QC and customer service very seriously. He is a great guy and builds superior products.

[@joenice529]

Good to hear, most of my board is filled with Analogman pedals, his pedals ended my search

[@FuzzFace]

Mike Piera is a national treasure.

[@mattyzito8316]

I love my High Gain Sundial.

[@goswo]

Great to know. Thanks (btw love my KOT, its just unique)

[@mattyzito8316]

@@goswo Yeah I always wanted one. I just never got there. I always one of his chorus too.

[@tyronemckenna2541]

Just throwing this out there - but you have no idea how pleased we all are to have these regular in the room Friday shows back :) Bravo!

[@lloydland]

I agree! Now, if I can just get away from work so I can enjoy them.

[@BeefNEggs057]

To anyone with an adventurous side you can build your own King of Tone Clone. Rullywow has the queen of bone. Is it just as good? No idea. It never leaves my board though and I use it all the time. It’s one of the greats. Just takes some soldering, ordering parts and not buggering it up. I went on to make a Jan Ray (Timmy with a mod) and a couple of others. Fun hobby if you like that sort of thing.

[@mickenilsson]

Totally agreed... so laid back and nice. ❤

[@marshsticks992]

Every now and then there's an intro that stops you in your tracks and says 'Dan really is a cracking player'. Those dynamics!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah, cheers mate 🤓🙏

[@CorbCorbin]

Every “now and then?” How dare thee, Daniel is always a vessel for cracking and dynamics! *Excuse me, I meant Dynamic Cracking, of course. 😄

[@chipsterb4946]

That intro was so tasty!

[@CraigGriffiths]

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

[@billgreen3629]

@@CraigGriffiths Oi Oi Oi

[@VisualGuy]

Dan’s opening playing in this video may be the most inspiring piece of guitar playing on the show, to date (for me). An absolute brilliant stream of consciousness. Wow!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah man, you’re too kind. Thank you 🙏

[@thehophouse]

Exactly my thoughts. Loved it!

[@thorpenator9148]

I agree. Put in another universe.

[@imdhomedesign3524]

I think something that was missed here is that the POT is based on the KOT with the High Gain mod. If you're going to compare 1 KOT to 2 POT's it makes more sense to use a KOT that has the High Gain mod on both sides.

[@joepeezy4sheezy]

A couple things: I read that Mike’s wife passed away in 2019. I imagine a loss as immense as this would contribute to the delays. If I lost my wife, I’d be lost. I can’t imagine finding the path forward, and he has so bravo. I have two KOTs (one green and one purple) that I adore. The purple is high gain red side and the green one is normal gain both. I like them both but play the purple one more. Thanks for keeping us company on fridays. You are appreciated. With love from a stranger in CA.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Joe. RIP Mrs Analog. We met her briefly while we were at Mike’s. And there are no strangers here Joe, you’re family! :0)

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

With the insanity of life, I am grateful for That Pedal Show just giving us content that gives us joy. And I just got the D&M last week and already getting complements on my guitar sound. Thank you so much, gentlemen.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yay! Thanks so much Eric!

[@Hugh_Jaynus_00]

I think I need me one of them. I got the Harmonious Monk...cool as hell.

[@nickthenail]

Was just searching for a break from all the vitriol that life is dishing out right now. Thank you, TPS.

[@bluesholyman6187]

I have just completed my 3rd year of what has become a 4 year wait on the KoT. When it arrives, I will frame it on the pedalboard as my Bachelor of Arts in Patience from the University of Analogman. Looking forward to getting it!!

[@gregantonowicz2818]

HOLY CRAP DAN! That opening jam was EPIC!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Greg 🤓🙏

[@galen510]

Agreed 100%!! Loved the exotic to americana flavors!

[@shanespruiell93]

One of the best intros ever on this show - inspiring playing Dan 😍

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah, cheers mate 🤓🙏

[@bigbillex]

Goosebumps on that intro, solid job Dan!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks so much Alexandre 🤓🙏

[@JasonWharton82]

After five long years my name finally came up on the waiting list, placed my order earlier this week. The MXR Duke of Tone fast became my favourite overdrive pedal and I picked up a JHS morning glory to achieve a sudo KoT while I waited, looking forward to getting the real thing on the board.

[@Joe-mz6dc]

By now you have probably received it. How do you like it?

[@mikeoxley4458]

I have the Morning Glory, and King and Prince of Tone. MG sounds smoother, while King & Prince have a more Marshall Bluesbreaker OD, IMO.

[@luke-xz1gb]

that intro brought tears to my eyes daniel. you are truly a magnificent player. God Bless

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah, cheers Luke, you’re too kind 🤓🙏

[@keithmalpass563]

For what it's worth, I ordered a King of Tone with the toggle switch on the outside of the case, four-wire connection on the outside of the case, and an external power out to power other pedals.. All of those things are now offered as options. Yes, the 2.5-year wait was tedious but definitely worth it.

[@quijahn8369]

King of Tone vs. Prince of Tone? I’ve been gigging on the Prince for around 5 years. Just received my KoT from analog man after a 5 year wait! My findings so far are that I, for most situations, prefer the Prince over the King. I play it stacked after a keeley comp and a tumnus. The keeley and tumnus give me edge of breakup clean tone and the Prince is what I use to push it over the edge. The prince keeps a level of clarity without sounding harsh, but provide a desirable mid range that lets you sing. I find I have access to more dynamic range through my playing. I can push or pull back and really dial into the intensity of the playing. I 100% agree with Mick on this. This is on a strat. That said, on a les Paul, I prefer the KING. It’s unbelievable how night and day the King is vs. prince when it comes to a les paul. Looks like I’ll be making room for both….

[@krule8013]

audio quality has been sounding insanely good, thanks for investing so much in the show, really pays off in terms of having a high integrity product

[@dkgriffiths]

"My ordinary, run of the mill King of Tone" - Nice one Dan. Can't wait to see your extra special solid gold one on the next episode !!

[@chr15tree]

I have a special silver one.

[@fearnpol4938]

@@chr15tree is that the Special Brew limited edition?

[@mattgilbert7347]

He'll probably show up with one next week

[@CorbCorbin]

Mine has little crown shaped knobs.

[@rasm0225]

@@mattgilbert7347 or three

[@timhopkins3810]

So I’ve literally just added myself to the KoT waitlist (23/5/2021) which I guess is bad as it’s a week after this video was released so if anyone else saw it and had the same idea as me I may be even further back in the queue... if I remember to and KZbin is still a thing then I’ll post once I finally get mine! Amazing playing both of you, always a good watch and has helped keep a sense of normality in COVID world.

[@fredtaylor9792]

I got on the list is Nov 2017 and I just got mine in May this year (2022)

[@TheAndypaul85]

Finally got an email from Analog Man saying I have reached the top of the waiting list and have now ordered a KoT. I put my name on the waiting list in August 2017 😂.

[@GxBxN]

I joyfully received my King of Tone 2 days ago, after a long, long wait! 4 years, 2 months - wow!! Absolutely loving the KoT though and was worth the wait for me 😊

[@redmosq4197]

I’m over 5yrs now 🤞

[@Chord_The_Seeker]

I’ve had a KoT for a couple of years. I got onto the waitlist when it was 2 years long. I’ve seen guys on FB say they’ve been waiting for four years now. TPS has been guilty of inspiring many expenditures. I have a Harmonious Monk coming in the mail as we speak. I was one of those “I don’t need pedals” guys until TPS came along. It’s been a fun journey thanks to Dan and Mick.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ha! Welcome Chord. :0) And thank you for buying a Monk!

[@RichardReneeRachel]

I can’t believe this is the topic this week. Just yesterday I had some time so I spent a few hours tinkering with my KOT settings/options inside and out!!! Of course I only have one pedal, but I was comparing all my options. I’ve always had a problem running both sides together in stock - I don’t have the high gain side - but I turn the red side on and off, with the yellow side on all the time, as opposed to Dan who leaves both sides on all the time. Last night I settled on making both sides boost and then the left one I cranked the drive to make it overdrive, while the right side stayed boosty (both with a smidge of presence boost). I wanna try Dan’s approach - stock settings with the presence pot up a bit and both sides on all the time. This video is so great and right in line with what I was exploring!!! Thanks!!!!!

[@TheWelhaven]

My pedalboard right now: Poly tuner, Small Stone nano & KoT. That’s it, three pedals. No more step dance during rehearsals or gigs. Edit: I sold my black KoT in 2018, but now I wanted one again. Since there was no-one for sale, I dug up the email adress for the guy who bought it in 2018, saying «hi, I sold you the KoT several years ago, can I buy it back?». He was like: «oh, that was you. I may sell it». Long story short, he was willing to sell it to me. Funny thing, when I opened the box, my black KoT was now purple. I sendt him a message saying «thanks for the pedal, sounds great. It has however changed colour from black to purple». Turns out he was colorblind, and had owned two. Doesn’t matter, best pedal ever.

[@TRCOES]

Thats funny, because couple of years ago I bought a black KoT used for a steal and the seller contacted me after about a year to ask me if I was willing to sell it back to him.

[@christopherburnett1745]

ROFL! That's great! I bought a white one because price was right and I'd rather change it to any other color. I'll have purple one around the end of next year! lol

[@TheWelhaven]

@@christopherburnett1745 I put myself on the mailing list (again) a few weeks ago. Figured it would be a nice surprise for my 50th birthday, even though I may be closer to 51.

[@christopherburnett1745]

@@TheWelhaven Lol! Same here!

[@curtspoerer4424]

Dan’s playing has gotten better with lockdown, just sayn!

[@nickharrington12]

Really interesting episode. I didn't expect the POTs to sound that different from the KOTs. Also, whoever did the internal shots of the pedals (Simon?) nailed it! They looked fantastic!

[@ThatPedalShow]

I did - Mick here, thanks!

[@NasserSharaf]

Dan that intro really gave me goose bumps - beautiful playing. I think after this I might pull the trigger on the Prince, it really sounds so alive and has some weight and mid punch to it. I like it better than the King of Tone actually.

[@mattsb17]

My turn finally came up ! I have a PoT at the moment and I can’t wait to battle it out between the two. The PoT pleases me very much because the tone is amazing and the external dip switch makes it very versatile. But im curious to see the KoT is really that much better

[@G.TinyShark]

Min 33:55. Mick and Dan, destroying the laws of Fluid Dynamics and pedal waitlists in little over half an hour. That’s talent.

[@humbucker1414]

Was so expecting the intro jam to start with the chords from "Two Princes" by Spin Doctors...

[@MichelLamblin]

That's what I said, now

[@manifestgtr]

Dan even has the look.

[@brendancarbone7621]

Picking up each of my KOT, Beano, and Bad Bob from Mike directly in Bethel were fantastic experiences (pre-covid), as I'm lucky enough to live nearby. Seeing the passion put into all these pedals was amazing, but more impressive was how well I was treated every time I walked in the door. I am just a regular guy, but every time I visited, Mike personally gave me his time to talk about pedals, cars, whatever. If the quality of the gear wasn't enough to keep me coming back (it is), the approach to building relationships with customers and being an all around great guy would be.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yeah, it’s less of an business premises, more of a shrine to tone

[@jonathancollingridge4834]

No reverb, no happy. I’m buying that T-shirt 😁

[@curtpurcell3296]

Two year waiting list - I wish. It's looking more like 4 years for me. But I'm digging my POT in the meantime. Great show guys.

[@Chord_The_Seeker]

The opening was some of the best, and most inspired, playing I’ve heard from Dan.

[@ethancatillo7851]

I got on the KoT waiting list in December 2018 and ordered a PoT around the same time… still waiting for the King, but I absolutely love the Prince and has been my main overdrive ever since.

[@jared8324]

I’m sure you know this, but the lo mid switch is backwards. You need to turn the lo mid lift switch ON to lose the lower mid heavy frequency’s. So actually the dip switch in the on position is stock to sound more transparent like the king of tone, I made this same mistake before as well

[@nvs6177]

I've been wanting an in depth video on this for years... Huge thanks to you guys

[@ThatPedalShow]

Our pleasure

[@MythosSoundStudio]

Not sure if this is in some of the comments below, but the wait list is now at August 15, 2017. You can find the details here. I'm on the list as of 2019, so wait time is roughly 4+ years. He's doing what he can - of course, the Pandemic didn't help at all. Great vid as always D&M. Thank you for all that you do.

[@toddzino58]

Agree. The pandemic put them behind another year I would say. I got on list last Fall and probably have 3 years to go. At least.

[@TheBeriking]

Another great Friday show! I have to say, I love the way you sound with a KOT, it’s glorious. But the tone you got when you put the POTs with all knobs at 2 (as god intended) actually made me do a double take. Through crappy iPad speakers! That was unreal, it was so good.

[@michaelrash1478]

Just got my new Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature 100/50 head and 2x12 cab about a week ago, ... WOW you where right it's just incredible. My dream tone come to life. Thanks for the information as always.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Congrats Michael, it really is the amp of dreams 🤓👍

[@galen510]

Was inspired as well and ended up finding a stellar deal on a Two Rock Coral, which is what replaced the Classic Reverb Signature V3 under the Premier Builders Guild era as I understand. As Mick states, and I have to agree, it is the amp of dreams.

[@coryfraser7554]

I was able to buy one used today for 140 CAD. I always thought they were overhyped. Even going through my vintage Roland JC 120 it sounded incredible. I’m a believer.

[@jroobz]

Brilliant episode! I got my kot last year for £375. They are out there and do appear now and again. If you’re on the fence, go for it - it is a fantastic sounding pedal. It’s very ‘polite’ but works with everything. If you don’t like it, sell it and make a profit or at least get your money back.

[@beeflin]

I thought this would be incredibly niche, but it turned out to be the deepest and most subtle dive into the details of overdrive, "transparency" and gain stacking you've ever done. Seriously enlightening and wow, the J Rockett Animal is sweet isn't it!

[@BenFentem]

Some amazing sounds again chaps, absolute star of the show for me today was the Olympus. Sounded stellar

[@davidburnsmusic]

Beautiful intro playing (as ever!) At the moment even one Prince would be unobtanium in my budget, but it's inspiring to hear what you can get from them, and I can dream, and try and get close with what I have. Thank you both!

[@justinguitarcia]

Literally nothing defeats the KOT in the heat of battle. It’s a mainstay on my board forever. I feel bad it’s so hard to get now since I got mine years ago but man alive it just rules live

[@jordandedomusic]

Awesome! My KOT was instantly my favorite. Best overdrive I own among a pile of great ones (Jester, RAT, Timmy, Guv'nor, Bogner Red, BB, etc) One of my favorite sounds is actually the Distortion (regular gain) mode and I'm surprised it's not talked about more. It's probably the most natural sounding distortion from a pedal I've ever heard. I'll be adding a Prince in the near future.

[@tonetwinstv2863]

Superb as usual guys, great video and even better to have you back in the room!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ed, Huw! Hello!

[@TsakalisAudioworks]

Awesome video guys! Thank you so much for including the SIX B.O.D. pedal as well.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hello all the Chrisses! Hope you’re well guys. X

[@TsakalisAudioworks]

@@ThatPedalShow We are all fine, thanks for asking, hope all is fine with you as well. Greetings from sunny Greece! Love u

[@jmurray911]

Really great episode guys. The quality of the sound recording in headphones was so good it was easy to see why the KOT is so revered.

[@ThatPedalShow]

ThNks Jonathan. This makes me happy. Mick here.

[@Ttinpanama]

After two years on the waiting list, I thought this video would help me give up but now I will just wait harder! Also Now I want a prince of tone :) Thanks again for another excellent video.

[@calebcromwell8084]

You guys are the best! Never stop this journey!!

[@filippredin2063]

3 things lads, I love this vid, and did not throw a cabbage at the wing deal about airliners. PS, it’s only 1 ;) I was blown away by the Bad Bob! I’m more on Daniels side, I love top end sparkle from the “standard” and I’m also surprised how muddy/middy the POTs are… My personal favorite make-a-KOT is, a combination of the ZVEX super duper 2 in 1 and the Browne Amplification Protein dual drive, Bluesbreaker side. Very close to the KOT. Great video as always, greetings from Minneapolis!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah man. The ZVEX! I totally should have gone with the SHO and the 2 Channel. That would work! Also, we ALL love the Bad Bob. Unanimous Love here at TPS. :0)

[@mickenilsson]

You should do the same with MXR DOT. Ive got two to have the features of the KOT. I tried POT but I didn't think it had the KOT "thing", but these DOTs are more or less exactly like the KOT I had. I love the DOTs.

[@deanjohnston104]

Hi guys. Sweet. My KoT arrived about a month ago (higher gain version both sides & external toggle switch). Still exploring. It was also involved in that truck of sound hitting chest we previously discussed after the fuzz episode Mick. A lorry of tone, if you will.... Peace and all that, Dean

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yay! Nice one Dean. Peace is good brother!

[@robertprice5039]

Tried for a while to purchase a POT, and no such luck due to availability. So a settled for a Wampler Pantheon which I like a lot, but would have loved to support Mike, a fellow Connecticut resident.

[@t3r080]

I tried to get a 2nd hand KOT (it was listed for $350) a year or two ago but I think the seller sold it for other buyer who outbid me off-record. He just sent me the message it was sold even if we already traded info, addresses and wire transfer detail. The very next day I ordered TWO Wampler Pantheons and still have 'em. And probably always will since if something ever happens to my pedalboard (breaks, gets stolen or lost) I can always buy two more Pantheons without waiting for 4 years or spending countless hours trying to source a 2nd hand unit in reasonable price point.

[@stevejay3696]

Playing live in a band setting is where the KOT shines. It just sounds brilliant in that context. Over lockdown I've though about getting a Protein or a Morning Glory etc. But I know as soon as I'm out there gigging again the KOT will just smash it....

[@ThatPedalShow]

Dan here, that’s ECACTLY what I’ve found. In a live context I just can’t replace it

[@stevejay3696]

@@ThatPedalShow So hard to demonstrate that on the show!

[@lulubicus]

Apart from the fun and relaxed way you talk about gear stuff, I really love when Dan plays these beautiful modal introductions. Cheers, mate!

[@dobster5819]

Hi Guys. Great intro Dan, that really did sound like EC’s Edge of Darkness. Thank you.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks so much D 🤓🙏

[@jasonhartelius]

Bought a used PoT a few years ago. Always thought the compression was kinda weird. Just checked... the dip switch was on. Probably should have checked that a long time ago! Thanks!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hooray!

[@JonNewquist]

I have all the Modulation & TBEs I will ever need. If you gents did all gain, all the time, 'til the end of time, from the cleanest boost to the splattiest fuzz, and everything else on that spectrum, I would never get bored with TPS. Bless you both for the glorious tones today. Happy weekend!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah man, thank you Jon!

[@pavelds]

Great episode guys. I got my kot last year after a 2yr wait.... best sounding pedal ever. You can try and emulate it but the real thing nails it. End of.. Get on the list and wait 😉

[@guitarsimon1]

Me sat with my arms folded: 2 POTs stacked? Just gonna sound the same mate! I sit thoroughly corrected.

[@benjammin3707]

What an epic intro Dan!!! You can tell that pedal loves you too!

[@ryanspencerlauderdale687]

Cheers gents! I’ve thought about this idea for awhile. You guys gave it proper context.

[@bryangarcia662]

Best part of my week right here 🙏🏼 Especially excited for this one as I'm thinking of getting a POT, let's see where this leads... Thanks D&M!

[@thorpenator9148]

Mick dialing in these tones takes someone with a great ear. Cheers Mick.

[@realgoodmind]

Just got my KoT after an almost 4 year wait. It is the only pedal on the board for drive now and finally moved the Klon off the board. This ep comes at the right time.

[@EzyoMusic]

I’ve had a KoT for years but I’m wondering if a Klon-type pedal could afd something useful for me.

[@realgoodmind]

@@EzyoMusic I have used the Klon for years. I just use it as a clean boost and it just gives me more of what my guitar and amp do by themselves than any other pedal before. No coloring the of sound just makes me hear my guitar and amp more. I got the KoT and I set one side to use this exact way with little gain and the other side I make it a real cranked drive pedal. I think the KoT does almost exactly what the Klon does for me on the clean boost side but I also have an even better drive side and when stacked I can get full out madness. I need multiple pedals to do all of that with a Klon. For example I would use a Klon>BB Pre or Klon>AP broadcaster or Klon>etc to get that really jacked sound. SUmmary- the KoT is the pedal for me.

[@davidmarch22]

I use 2 bluesbreaker style pedals side by side on my board to approximate the king of tone. I use the mojo hand magpie with the switch in the down position and the Wampler Pantheon. I’m extremely happy with my results. I have been on King of tone waiting list since November of 2018 (2 1/2 years). Not really sure I “need “ the KOT, but I’m not going to say no whenever they end up contacting me.

[@stratman808]

With a Strat and fender amp, I like my POT with both dip switches on. I match the treble trim pot so that it roughly matches my TS pedals on the tone control dial and no brighter. It is heaven in overdrive mode. Try the dip switches Mick!

[@ThatPedalShow]

How loud you play? Methinks it’s too much at volume. :0)

[@stratman808]

@@ThatPedalShow usually a deluxe reverb or vibrolux reverb on 4 to 5. It matches klon or duellist quite well volume wise. Or a fuzz on full chatter! 😀

[@Michiel1972]

The MXR/Analogman Duke of Tone is about to be released. Very curious how two stacked Duke of Tone's would be compared to the King Of Tone. Plus how the Duke of Tone is stacked with each of the following mini pedals Wampler Tumnus, Nobels ODR, Timmy and the Ibanez Tube Screamer. The big question is: would 2 Duke of Tones be the best or would one Duke of Tone be best matched up with another great mini overdrive pedal? Or would a Wampler Tumnus stacked with a Timmy for example be the prefered combination. Think it will would be an interesting video.

[@ngsanfo7927]

Nice to see you pull out the Jag, Dan. Your fellow countryman Rowland S. Howard would be proud

[@grahambliley8604]

The hype on the KOT is astronomical (not saying unjustified). I got on the list early 2020, not realizing how long the wait had become. Just based on how demand has increased since 2017 (where current fulfillment is), I do not really expect to ever get one - at least as they are currently made.

[@TheChattanoogaBandit]

I’ve been on since 2019, still waiting lol

[@tonybrooks476]

Ahhh, there you are. Happy Friday folks. T to the P to the S.

[@AlGorham23]

For a long time, I've been threatening to get onto Mike's website and get an order in. Last week's fuzztasy and this week's tonetasm just pushed me over the edge. Sunface and KOT here I come. Plus, it's cold up north, so I won't have any issues with my NKTs ;) Happy Friday chaps. Lush playing Dan! Off to plug in me Strat!

[@timweber3277]

Yeah, that's just a really good show ! Still kinda liked the stacked POT's. Might have been nice too dip back into those near the end just to see how that held up post totality. KOT yep, clearly clean and solid all around, but obviously don't know if I'll survive the wait list of now nearly 4 years. Stacking drives and boosts is always too fun. An interesting thing here is the quick look at boost after drive. Different things work differently and then change the guitar (pickups) and there goes the day ! Thing is, when a tone strikes you, write it down before it's gone and you can't quite get it back ! Again, great show. THX

[@SamuelOceanMusic]

"One, TWO ... princes here before you..." couldn't help it! Great episode, guys! Cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hahaha! Princes who adores you.

[@BV_Beve]

Superbe intro cette petite ligne mélodique rapide, très spéciale! Dan mate! .. def in that happy Tele clarity place! May '21 that time when 12noon was 4 & some very interesting take-aways when 2 P didn't make 1 K

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cheers BV, yeah, tele, KoT, I’m right there 🤓🙏

[@malcolmet]

That was some very tasty playing on the intro. Nice one Dan!

[@TheOnlyLarsson]

Long awaited, thanks for posting!

[@mattgalbraith3050]

I'm continually amazed at how good that red Telecaster sounds!!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yep, very special guitar

[@craiger2399]

Posting while watching to just say THANK YOU for doing this. I have PoT and find the mid boost is very present (I like that), and that there isn't much difference between boost and dist except for the volume shift. I favor the boost setting by far.

[@TimBentley]

Really fun (and interesting!) show. I've got the old Barber version of the Gainster, and it's a great OD - very tweedy sounding mids. I think the Menatone Red Snapper is another (maybe the original?) version of the circuit.

[@philippgrunert8776]

I think I now understand why I stopped using my tube screamer type overdrive a while back and strive for Klon and or KOT circuit based overdrive now

[@batoli20]

I would love a show on amp overdrive. Vox/Fender BF/Marshall/Two Rock compared then all amps through an EV type speaker to show how much of the amps breakup & compression is coming from the speaker.

[@alexlewis8468]

The 2 POTs didn't really sound close to the KOT, but there were a number of times where I definitely preferred the POT. I'm not much of a gain pedal dude anyhow (thank god, because I couldn't handle the wait), but even I can hear that these pedals have a certain kind of mojo that can't be denied... great vid chaps

[@ReturnTheSanity]

I wish you guys would have tried adjusting EQ settings on the amp to see how close you could get. I understand it would take more work as you are switching between the two, but I think that is where I think the potential for matching the tone happens.

[@thinkthirsty1305]

While cost+wait time discourages me from one of these, I DID recently cross the dual OD Rubicon with a used Fulltone GT-500 from a private owner, which was priced..ahem, more than a bit below usual market price presumably due to recent developments. Tremendous piece of equipment that plays nicely with my AC10. Full Drive or GT-500 on the resale market might be a good look for dual OD on a budget

[@CaptainAhab-im3kd]

I ordered a KOT and got one with the High Gain option. I also years ago bought one of his Sunlion fuzz pedals that is a NKT275 fuzz followed by a Beano Boost. My chain is then KOT

[@justPiero]

Great video as always! I would love to watch another video about different alternatives to the KOT, if you'll do it (please!!!) I suggest to include the Vsaudio Royal Flush :D

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hello! We did one ages ago, and then another more recently. Cheers!

[@justPiero]

And also the King of Clone 68

[@corpse-in-orbit]

Tsakalis makes phenomenal stuff. I don't suppose either of you fellas will be needing a 2-channel high-gain distortion just now, but the Tsakalis Nerve is the best I've ever found for plugging into backline amps and using as "your channels." Very JCM800 on 1a or modded 800/Bogner on 1b, very Dual Rectifier on 2, great tone stack including Presence to fit any amp. (And, as I recently learned from Chris T. himself, "Tsakalis" is pronounced "CHOCK-ah-leese.")

[@jakegerovac]

Status as of todays date of January 2, 2022: King Of Tone is now shipping to people who got on the waiting list on or anytime before October 25, 2017. I've been on the waitlist since June 2018...almost there 😭

[@scottw9732]

Great show as always, guys. I'm wondering, would the differences in two of the same pedal come down to individual component values and the accrual of those differences throughout their respective circuits? Much love, fellas. Thanks for all you do.

[@MrKleaner]

Great show! I have both the KOT and POT and use the POT for boost and heavier OD stuff. Dan, great opening! ACE!

[@franknguitars7671]

I never had the slightest interest in either of these pedals but enjoyed watching that start to finish 😂 cheers guys! Hope your doing extremely well! Oh, and BTW, I‘d give the nod to the KOT ... damn.

[@JacobH93]

That Supro and tone king set up you guys have been using is awesome! That’s probably the pair (or really close to) the pair of amps I’d use if I had the budget! I love the Supro stuff and it’s hard to beat a fendery stuff!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yeah man it really works. Interestingly I just did some audio today for a show we filmed yesterday. We swapped out it the Supro for my Two Rock.... and I actually think the Supro works better with the TK. Interesting!

[@JacobH93]

@@ThatPedalShow Interesting! Maybe it was a little too much mid scoop? I would think the Supro would help fill that range up a bit. Maybe not as much as a vox or something along those lines, but similar idea!

[@75stephengreen]

The Gretsch knocked it out of the park. Of all the pedals today I like the Olympus the best. I have a KOT and will never let it go, but to be honest I do not use it all that much. Something about the top end of the Olympus just grabbed my attention. Thanks again guys for another informative show for us gear geeks from over the pond in the old USA. Cheers fellas.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yeah man. Mick here. I //really// like that Olympus!

[@mattrwilkins]

Just got my KOT a month ago after an over 3 year wait. Serendipitously my order came up timed perfectly with the limited antique silver enclosure (like the Bi-comp). I went normal gain on both sides and I must say it was worth the wait. It’s a special pedal.

[@DRChevalier]

Thanks so much guys for doing this episode that I asked for last year. I’m still about a year away from being at the top of the list for the King of Tone. Also cannot get Prince of Tones either these days. Thanks and be well my friends

[@ThatPedalShow]

Not long now Ross - apols, we should have mentioned you too! Hope you’re well man!

[@DRChevalier]

No apologies needed. You did what I asked for and I am grateful. Was most impressed by the Mythos Olympus btw. About 8 weeks wait before shipping. On a different note while not on his site yet, your friend Simon Jarrett recently posted to his channel a short demo of his Artisan pedal which I think you may have seen an early version of. Very interesting indeed.

[@TheToneLounge]

Until recently, I didn't get what all the fuss was about when it came to the KoT/Blues Breaker type of pedals. The demos I heard made it sound similar to a TS and I didn't like the blend of clean and overdrive that I heard. I recently acquired a Reuss pedal that does that KoT/Blues Breaker thing, and after spending some time with it, and recording with it, I'm happy to say that now I get it. It does, to my ear at least, the clean amp on the verge of break up, really well. It's fantastic also as a boost, but where I dig it is in the higher gain tones. Anywhere between 12 and 3 (depending on the guitar) is where I use it the most. Sounds killer with a Tumnus boosting the front end too.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Nice! I reckon they work well into amps that are just breaking up too. Mick here. Something harmonically nice starts to happen. Cool! Hope you’re well!