Rumple's Mom Finally Revealed! (Once Upon A Time S6E9)

[@paigecompton7055]

Rumple steals babies from people who owe him. His mother steals babies from their mother's arms for fun. And Peter Pan takes children who want to get away from their families. They all steal children!

[@danybey4075]

JUST realized that reading this

[@robertaeellis7644]

***** Neal almost did the same thing w Roland remember n 3A, he used Roland as bait to get Pan's shadow to Rumple's castle, ofc w Robin's permission. But still, that was stupid on Neal's part. Making the shadow think, Roland was Henry was stupid, all bc he wanted to help Emma&Co save Henry in Neverland. But at least Henry is dating a girl his own age, its young love so noone better mess that up. Violet is the best thing that's ever happened to him, just wish he went back to school and stop getting himself invovled with his family drama in every episode. Why, bc Jared is almost 16-17 now, Henry is still been treated like a 12y/o from S3, he should be 14 by now. Writers have treated his sidelife w Violet as him growing up from been that kid who hated magic, now he has embraced it even more since he became The Author. Sidenote, his family have to stop treating him like a kid, he has a girlfriend now, he gets himself into trouble, when SQ&SW put up these walls and boundaries just ot keep him safe. altho, mirrorHenry is the villain version we're ever gonna get from SBHenry, so until the writers stop making his parents, soon2bstepdad &grandparents treat him like a kid, Henry would b in that hormonal puberty stage by now, since Jared already went through his change in 3B that didn't take long. Now Jared's height is another thing, he's just as tall as Lana&JMo now. The main characs are all over the place, but Jared's the only on who actually gets a stroyline where it involves someone thats not his family, but a distraction for him to have fun and have some normalcy of been a teenager whos dating a camelot's knight's daughter.

[@valeriaa7429]

Harrie Potter Well I guess it runs in the family

[@KJ-gr1gs]

They also abandonn their own!

[@Quntah888]

Harrie Potter Hide your kids, hide your wife

[@archangelrivers480]

The evil Black Faire for a mother and misguided/evil Peter Pan for a father....makes you wonder if Rumple ever really had a chance.

[@bronsonferrigno2453]

Pan is definitely not misguided, the show proves that he's irredeemable, everyone just likes him because he's Robbie Kay.

[@orteneyapietu9801]

exactly my thoughts

[@melon502]

Yeah I kinda see rumple in a new light now I'm still angry that he keeps doing the wrong thing and messing up with Belle but it looks like he was destined to mess up his life

[@AsheDuran]

They never really put much into his story

[@tea_spiller2869]

Archangel Rivers I understand exactly where you're coming from I mean both parents abandoned him at different ages and it just made his heart fill with lonesome and sooner vengeance

[@LeahWalentosky]

Immortal Boy, Dark Fairy, Dark One, Dream God, Author: Neal must feel awkward at the holidays

[@fergo5016]

Neal survived alone for several centuries in Neverland, then became the only one who left the island without Pan's permission, without owning magic. And he also raised his father.

[@BenBen-so7qe]

Pan let him leave tho

[@winx0938]

🤣🤣

[@anycullen21]

Neals dead. Hes safe. Think abt Henry's holidays. That boys family tree is blown out of proportion. And he has 4 family sides. Maternal, paternal, adoptive and marriage. Yikes

[@patrikclaster3458]

@@anycullen21 Alternative one, wishland one, one by magical split. ... Anything else?

[@BeazleyStudios]

I love how the writers made the entire story of Once Upon a Time a consequence of Rumple's existence. All that happened was because of him and his family.

[@sheflashedus246]

it because he is the hero of the story

[@nicolem9839]

this is why he hates fairys his mother is a crazy one

[@nicolem9839]

Jonathan Willis and Peter hates fairy's too so lol

[@donnanunez4975]

true that

[@cartoonmovies1270]

Kawaii Mirai

[@nicolem9839]

Briany's Vlog's I will lath if they are siblings 😂😂😂

[@diggersam8865]

Kawaii Miraii I bet you the Blue Fairy either forced the Black Fairy to abandon him or she took Rumple from his mother.

[@skylewylde4506]

Thanksgiving for Henry's family must be a nightmare!

[@JustinBocci]

Emrys Kyle Dalkan right!

[@mollyergen3132]

Emrys Kyle Dalkan you stole that of what David Nolan says

[@Greendalewitch]

Not just Henry´s family. Just walking on the streets on storybrooke must be Akward, seing people who tried to kill you few weeks ago, kidnapped your baby, tried to murder you, put curse on storybrook (Thrice) I honestly think that the whole town of Storybrook needs some serious therapy sessions

[@idktbh92929]

Kyle "thrice"

[@KickinSapphire]

Emrys Kyle Dalkan, I remember Charming making a comment like that XD

[@hpfan180]

In the fairytale a big part of rumplestilkins story was made up of people trying to figure out his name so its fitting that in OUAT his mother never named him

[@littlesongbird1]

Was his mom always the dark fairy or did she like transform later like how he did?

[@signer25]

​@@littlesongbird1it started out as the mom believing a prophecy that a great evil was destined to kill her son. So she went after every child born in the year it was said to begin. Little by little she became darker cause of the children she targeted. If you haven't seen far enough to learn rumpled original destiny and what happen I wont spoil it.

[@LaviniaDeMortalium]

Seriously though, that giggle of hers is spot-on.

[@ZehnWaters]

That's what I thought. Girlish but mature at the same time. Exactly what I'd expect from an eternally young, evil fairy.

[@LaviniaDeMortalium]

I especially love the touch of manic in there. Seems like the actress was pulling a little from Rumple's character. Not just in the body language, but particularly her tone.

[@lunarcrow8526]

Lavinia de Mortalium posh yet savage and malicious. That actor is really talented!

[@Clawdeena9]

I wish she finished by calling him “deary” so bad 😭

[@moriah93ohio]

I thought she was.

[@Xandypn]

So Peter Pan does have a thing for fairys!

[@alexepic9993]

AnimeJT Shadow first of all this actress is stunning beautiful gorgeous not too sure if you have any taste on women second of all she steals babies first born's that's the same thing Rumpelstiltskin does it's called Faith it's called bookends matching things up I mean come on it's talented awesome writing!!! that's why everything makes so much sense why Rumplestiltskin was after first born because he was trying to contact his mother what are you not getting

[@donnanunez4975]

maybe

[@peterpan4296]

She fall in love with me but i didnt..

[@Leegirl1226]

She "fall" in love with me.... (I see you're really into character XD. Seriously though, that made my day. Thank you ^_^ )

[@barbiquearea]

@Megarainbow Except Pan wasn't always a child. He and Fiona were adults when they were married and had Rumple. He turned into a child later on using magic.

[@mikoajpapiez1231]

So... Belle already met her future mother-in-law.

[@llarmstrong783]

And you thought your mother in law was bad

[@Henduta]

"funny that the Dark One should ask such a thing, sometimes you have to choose power over love... "-that is exactly what he did with Baelfire, and exactly what Pan did with him! Turns out his mother too! He did it again too with the second son(kind of, though not intentionally this time.) Talk about coming full circle.

[@minacruse2415]

The difference is that Rumple raised & loved Baelfire. In 1 moment he made a mistake which he tried to fix for 300+ years. Even Emma didn't look for Henry.

[@rockinggirl0610]

Bruh

[@Omgidk17654]

And also what cora did to him

[@meijtjes]

So The Dark One Rumpelstiltskin is the son of Peter Pan and The Black Fairy? The show's family tree keeps getting weirder and weirder

[@Raximus3000]

Peter Pan having a son with a fairy. Why does that sound weird to you? To me it seems fitting also fate wants him as an villain throwing whatever they can at him to break, if he didn't become the dark one he'd be dead, and we'd have someone else as the villain, heck maybe Emma would have never become the saviour.

[@meijtjes]

Raximus3000 Yeah, but if you look at the entire family now, it just gets more and more confusing

[@Raximus3000]

Audrey van der Meij It's a drama in its 6th season did you expected it to be simple, in any way? The better question how did Rumble's father managed to score with a fairy? He didn't rely seemed the best material for anything, but who knows maybe her leaving him turned him into that or was a one time thing, i suspect alchohol and a lot of lies.

[@meijtjes]

Raximus3000 I just hope it isn't "they met in Neverland", I want some actual surprise with this

[@Raximus3000]

Audrey van der Meij Becareful what you wish for.

[@erorr7073]

Well if you think about it it makes sense, Pan and this fairy lady have a lot in common, stealing children and babies, being overly confident and fearless, plus that power over love thing that apperantly runs in the family. Still, what do you know, Peter Pan dated a fairy, wouldn't expect anything less XD

[@Ivanchy91]

He wasn't Pan at the time he was with the fairy, he was still Malcolm.

[@lemonadelemon1960]

When Rumple s father was still a boy, he visited never land and met a child fairy (her) They left Neverland and got married. She was a normal fairy....at first

[@jasminkrieger8228]

This isnt pan for me pan is Robin in hook for me

[@johnlawrencemaniquis9174]

@@lemonadelemon1960 ummmm... Im sure her backstory is revealed at the time you commented. Fiona is still human when she and Malcolm met. She only turned herself into a fairy to protect Rumple.

[@thesecretside2803]

Pan never dated a fairy. That was just Fiona. And Fiona dated Malcom, not Pan. They both went bad once they lost each other. Heh. Power over love is right.

[@sarahhinkson6596]

Peter Pan and The Dark Fairy, no wonder why Rumple's so messed up.

[@auroraprs9133]

that now makes sense!

[@DavidJameson89]

Sarah Hinkson I know. I now understand Rumple a bit better. I already felt bad for him knowing Malcolm/Peter Pan didn't love him and saw him as a burden, but to know that Rumple's mother didn't care about him either makes me look at him and see it as an impressive feat that he can genuinely care about anyone (like he did for Baelfire and Belle).

[@evybethm5538]

Virtual Side Exactly!

[@sailormew4theguardian134]

When I first saw this I flipped out so bad then my Brain had to process that Peter Pan and the Black Fairy had a kid then I began to think "Geez, Rumple had daddy issues and mommy issues."

[@DavidJameson89]

I've found Rumple's flip-flopping between good guy and villain to be annoying over the course of the show, but I understand him better now that I know both of his parents didn't care anything about him. At least Rumple cared about Baelfire, despite letting him go in that portal by himself. He had Regina cast the curse so he could try to find him.

[@Anonymous-iz2uq]

His mom did care about him that’s exactly why she became the dark fairy pan does care about him to some extent and she cares about him alot

[@Anonymous-iz2uq]

Wait this is four years later...

[@DavidJameson89]

@@Anonymous-iz2uq And I posted that before the episode aired where we find out Fiona's past. Now I know she did care and went to any length to save him, but it corrupted her and turned her completely dark.

[@garytaylor8616]

That's the writers fault for being inconsistent with his character and not settling on whether they want him to be a villain or redeemed so kept hopping back and forth between the two

[@AuntKiki81]

So, Rumplestiltskin saying that he is a difficult man to love....he's not talking about "yeah, I'm a monster", he honestly believes that no one can ever love him. So, he feels he's twice cursed because love is denied him so, with or without meaning to, he makes sure that he does all he can to make himself unloved in a self fulfilling curse.

[@zuzanabartekova4823]

My thoughts exactly. That's why Belle couldn't save him with their first kiss. And why he thought Neal would rather stay with Peter Pan

[@oceankiss1228]

I see where Rumple gets his giggle from

[@nathanmoore1740]

I'm a fan of the Mom. Love the confidence. She seems fearless.

[@Sincerely_Pandaz]

absolutely!! other than the fact that she might potentially be the most evil character on the show as well as the reason for half of rumple’s childhood trauma- she’s great!

[@__artfox__]

Her giggles are awesome. Fits perfect... like Rumple's :) Very good season so far.

[@h3ll0gudbye]

I genuinely liked the black fairy, even though her appearance was brief, she was a pretty interesting character. I hope she's in future episodes because I'm getting a little bored with the show in general atm.

[@blancarosales3400]

poor Rumple he got the worst parents ever in the history of the world they choose power and both of them abandoned him.

[@taylorb9484]

And then he chose power and his wife chose love and they both abandoned his son.

[@blancarosales3400]

Albus Nix no wonder Rumple is like he is because he never met love until Belle

[@taylorb9484]

Blanca Rosales Unfortunately, he keeps assuming she's the one who's trying abandon him when he's the one who's been at fault almost every time (I say almost because there have been a couple times where she could have run things better).

[@blancarosales3400]

Albus Nix yeah also you're right about that but still I mean he's not a bad person if he wants his son the one is having with Belle he has to change and forget the past.

[@taylorb9484]

Blanca Rosales Exactly! That's always been my take on the whole Rumbelle drama. Unfortunately, way too many OUaT fans place all the blame on Belle. They both have messed things up in their own ways, but Rumple is the one at fault most of the time, and she really has given him so many chances to turn around with her help. He's just made it harder on himself by refusing, and now he's going to have to do the turning around on his own.

[@ValentinaB2001]

3:08 I've always agreed with Rumple on this, no one really knows what he had to go through, all because his mother chose her powers over her son cutting off all destiny and making everything reverse (They tell you that by cutting off destiny the gifts become the opposite and you leave the child as a "Child without a future" meaning that Rumple was one that was what made everything easier for him to be the dark one), his father sold him 3 times what was shown on screen and then sold him for eternal youth, they called him the coward of the town, his father tricked his son with his shadow making him pass for him pretending that he abandoned him, the only reason he learned dark arts in the beginning was to save his son, his first wife abandoned him out of shame of being his wife, his mother kidnaps his second son and does the same thing as his father (Tell her that Rumple abandoned him), then that same son goes and tells the woman he loves that his father abandoned him when that didn't happen

[@soixsantes]

poor rumple, his life has been so sad and horrible

[@TJMalana]

If you look back in episode 3x11 "Coming Home" Tinkerbelle stated that Blue exiled her and took her wand. I believe that Rumple's mom was banished to the Land Of Untold Stories so her villainous plans don't play out. I wonder what her plans were. Just in this episode and the one following this one we're starting to get bits of the Rumple we loved during the first 3 seasons. Look who his parents are. He basically followed in their footsteps. Come on Rumple its not to late to break the pattern!

[@britneychase4413]

Rumple's mom: No, it can't be! Rumple: Surprise bitch, I bet you thought you've seen the last of me

[@whatevafield]

They have the same sense of fashion.

[@AM-xx6rf]

Niki cheers too that

[@s.nifrum4580]

I just now noticed that the black fairy is supposed to be the wicked fairy who cursed the beast They really took that beauty and the beast thing seriously didn’t they? However, in the original book Belles mother was also a fairy, and belle had to be put under maurice’s custody in order to protect her from the wicked fairy Can you imagine how powerful it would’ve been if they worked with that a little bit? If there was some big reveal that the black fairy orchestrated the ogre war, the war that killed Belles mother and thus caused the very thing that first brought them together in the first place, rumple having to deal with that knowledge and despite Belle’s insistence that their love is real and that they were destined for one another, he’s still left wondering if meeting her was just part of mommy’s master plan somehow Meanwhile both in the interest of protecting her son and in light of new information that the black fairy is responsible for her mother’s death, Belle is on a path of revenge which could lead to a nice role reversal where *rumple* is the one trying to keep *Belle* away from the dark And blue being such a bitch to rumple could’ve been in the interest of keeping a promise made to a fellow fairy . . . to protect her daughter

[@jessicacurry9142]

Wished Belle left the baby alone so Black Fairy and Rumple keep talking and got to know some more answers of his childhood.

[@willturnerfanAWE]

My prediction time....Killian is also the son of the black fairy, making him and Rumple half brothers (why not make the family tree even more weird LOL)

[@kwabesvision]

the family tree is already so complicated

[@willturnerfanAWE]

yep, I agree! (I'm being slightly tongue in cheek here with my prediction but Once loves to add strange ties to the family trees)

[@BOBABOOROCKS]

willturnerfanAWE Hook once mentioned he doesn't trust mermaids .Maybe his mother was a mermaid 😂 But I like your theory about Hook & rumple being related more .

[@Stella24Bella]

But that would mean that also Liam is her son and that would mean that she stayed for another baby... doesnt seem quite like her

[@willturnerfanAWE]

Stella24Bella As I mentioned before, I am being slightly tongue in cheek but having said that, nothing surprises me with this show. Considering she's the "dark" fairy, I don't think morals are exactly on her high list, who knows what kind of men she has seduced, she's not exactly ugly

[@CeCeTyshay]

Like mother, like son. Abandoned your child and take other ppl's. Sounds about right. If he don't sit down somewhere lol. And he's just going to leave Belle and the baby in the woods at night like that? Smh.

[@broadwaygirl84]

They are not alike! Rumple dedicated his life to finding Bae and gave his life and sanity trying to save him and put himself in Zelena's power! He loved Bae more than anything, and now he's lost the only person left alive he believes can love him.

[@karenfigler5903]

broadwaygirl84 he'll find love Belle still has lingering feelings for him Rumpelstiltskin Son will come back

[@misssupercookie2011]

the family business

[@robertcook5049]

2:09 her giggle is adorable, the expression change is perfect

[@diariodasbffs9680]

The mom Rumple! Finally!!! Epic!

[@superskaterboyvlogs633]

Thank you! These vids are so helpful!! 😊

[@135mikerules23]

You know given what has transpired in 6x10, one could argue SHE is the main antagonist of the second half of this season given she did to Gideon.

[@sydryi3086]

One thing I did notice was the genuine look of regret on her face.

[@arthurteixeira9866]

soooo... Black Fairy and Peter Pan was a thing or did he adopt rumple?

[@josephyml]

i think they actually did it. pan was sort of trying to get rid of rumple, i doubt he would adopt him

[@karenfigler5903]

Arthur Teixeira no rumple's not adopted Peter Pan and the black fairy had sex

[@emptyemptiness7752]

That might be the reason she was no longer allowed to be apart of blues fairies because she slept with a human

[@peterpan4296]

Sadly no..Rumple is my son..

[@hollysimpson9512]

Big Ol Internet Troll We don't know he's an SOB, only that Rumple is :p

[@jl.6477]

Family gatherings must be chaotic. I mean, Henry's family tree is already crazy enough, his mother's side be: Emma, Charming, Mary, Regina(as stepmother to both Henry and Mary.) And then his dad's side: neal aka baelfire, rumple, Milah, peterpan and fiona. Bro family feuds are gonna be a traditional thing.

[@soixsantes]

it's a very strange family that tries to kill each other regularly

[@speakersubject554]

It’s so good! The acting is truly realistic and magical. It is the best show I ever did see!

[@Weekend658]

I wonder how much shit that family steals at Walmart when everyone is looking 😭🤣😭🤣

[@Leegirl1226]

Fandom Summaries: Doctor Who: everyone is crying OUAT: Everyone is related Sherlock: Everyone is in denial Supernatural: Everyone dies Harry Potter: Everyone is telling Harry no Percy Jackson: Everyone is on a quest Hunger Games: Everyone is trying to survive Avengers: Loki no! [Insert fandom descriptions below]

[@heatherfeather7199]

Lost: Everyone ends up in OUAT House M.D.: Everybody lies Everybody Loves Raymond: Everybody loves Raymond Cheers: “Norm!”

[@nicolasabbe4668]

Game of Thrones: Everyone is fucking (their family)

[@Dnarxus]

Man, can't blame Rumple for why he is. Bro was born from two wicked folks. 😆

[@soixsantes]

poor rumple, and honestly he has been a much better father for his first child baelfire

[@soixsantes]

and for reminder, it was precisely for baelfire that rumple has wanted to become the dark one.

[@etherealbeauty_sf3799]

How did Baelfire turn out so good? That is one messed up family tree!

[@willturnerfanAWE]

two words.....The Darlings. I think they had a lot to do with him turning out alright. I am not sure though a man who was a car thief at first and got a teenage girl pregnant is "good" but in the end I think he did the heroic thing

[@thesecretside2803]

@@willturnerfanAWE true, but even before that, he was good (Minus tht whole Beowulf thing). But sometimes the most evil parents are given the purest children. The parents show the kid what they don’t want to be.

[@misssupercookie2011]

I love the Black Fairy. Maybe it's just the actress' portrayal of her but she's just..... whee!!!! Especially how she pretended to regret leaving him then just goes into 'nah idgaf sorry bruh' Also it's nice to see that terrible parenting runs in the family. And Rumple spent 200 years dwelling on his mommy issues? Damn move on. Get a hobby. And 'no one knows anything about my pain'- the entire main cast and half the guest stars had it a lot harder than he did!

[@LordSalazarsRevenge]

Peter Pan: Jackass who stole kids and took them to Neverland. Is irredeemable Black Fairy: Jackass who stole kids from their families as prisoners. Is irredeemable Rumpelstiltskin: A lot of the time, a jackass, but is also redeemable

[@litagoal]

Jaime Murray

[@symphonicpoi]

can't wait to see season 6 of this

[@celestialweaver8460]

I love the black fairy's voice OMG

[@Lauren-el7nm]

Omg she is so young #wefinallyknow

[@danm5925]

Jas theSAS only coz most pre dark one scenes were season 1, when Robert was in his late 40s

[@iamvia9749]

She is younger than him

[@denisgauthier9191]

in the words of Jiminy Cricket, "Well, it's about time"

[@fosixsix225]

“Did he really just leave me out here by myself?”

[@JavertRA]

And yet a few episodes down the line you see she didn't give him away after all. Sure, it was her actions in choosing power that could have prevented the Blue Fairy from taking him but she wasn't as heartless as you might have suspected. I blame the Blue Fairy. As usual.

[@neardaisy1790]

Thanks for answering a question we didn't really want the answer to

[@larkylark1]

deysi gonzalez speak for yourself. A lot of us have been waiting since season 3 for that hole in the family tree to be filled, and this does not disappoint!

[@willturnerfanAWE]

The messed up family trees are the best part of the show :D

[@lamario295]

They both talk in that sing song voice

[@terrymelody9340]

I can remember first seeing this, I was lying on the floor watching it on my TV and this scene was on, I can remember saying ‘no’ in between laughs and gasps. The first twist that actually made me freak out

[@hashimahmed9409]

When I saw in season 3, that pan was Rumple’s dad, I kept saying “ya own son!!!” every time pan threatened his son. I said the exact same thing in this reveal.

[@marcopruneda3635]

The fact the The Dark Fairy, Peter Pan, and The Dark One all chose power over love and they all tale revenge serious I mean they literally are Once.Upon.A.Time

[@revelhilary]

she's so cool i love her, i hope we get to see more of her

[@pascalfernandes6432]

as she is he Dark Fairy i hope we finaly get this snow white flashback

[@centurionfragger9859]

like mother like son, both after power

[@sexycspan1]

Centurion Fragger I feel like he sort power to find love in a twisted kind of way which after everything it makes more sense that it would be that now.

[@krystalvideos]

Does anyone know how Rumple knew who his mother was? I watched this when it came out so it was a little choppy that I didn't pick up on it at the time. He doesn't find out about his mum becoming the black fairy til way later (6x19) as opposed to when he first confronted her (6x09) which was way before the first dark curse...

[@taylorb9484]

As weird as the voice the actress chose to use is, I do hope we get to see more of the Black Fairy in the future . . .

[@kodstyles2387]

She is the next violation with Gideon, so yeah we will see her and flashbacks of her educating Gideon.

[@noelhaynes9608]

I wonder how Rumplestiltskin found out that the Black Fairy was his mother? I also wonder if the Black Fairy took Gideon to get back at Belle for ruining her plan to steal Jack and Jill's baby?

[@MasterAnakinSkyWalker]

If the baby's parents were Jack and Jill, does that mean they did more than just "fetch a pail of water" when they went up that hill?

[@noelhaynes9608]

@@MasterAnakinSkyWalker Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure that it does.

[@daughterofmaleficent8119]

wait wait wait! does that mean rumple is part Fae?! Also I need to see more of the Black Fairy. she intrigues me..

[@oreotink3979]

She's in the TV show spartacus

[@esdrasfilipe431]

I think she became a fairy after he was born

[@Mcherri]

She became a fairy after his birth but he was meant to be the saviour so he had powers until his mother screwed him over because of her selfish nature and over protectiveness

[@msk-qp6fn]

It is REALLY weird seeing her like this when she was still loving towards her son when she was about to be banished. Makes you wonder if she ever loved her son after becoming a fairy.

[@kingcrimson2643]

This legit doesn't matter to me now, The writing has been bad the past few seasons and season 5 was dreadful and had the opportunity to be really, really good but whatever.

[@elderemodemon]

Edward West-Summers yea dunno why I keep watching. their frozen arc was pretty terrible

[@kingcrimson2643]

I actually liked the frozen arc. But then again maybe that was only because of quirky, lovable anna.

[@elderemodemon]

Edward West-Summers just felt so random and rushed, I like the snow queen but her plan to make emma and elsa her "sisters", it was just odd lols felt like edward and Adam rushed that arc and tossed in random ideas

[@kingcrimson2643]

Queen of darkness was worse to me. (Ursula's out the door after only four episodes, and other random stuff.) the one good thing to come out of that arc was the casting of cruella. it was like she stepped out of the movie.

[@elderemodemon]

Edward West-Summers loooved cruella, the actress was amazing. and would've been neat snow as the evil queen for a few more episodes, her bit as a villain didn't last as long as I was hoping, it was a nice twist

[@daniellemusella1594]

There've been rumors for a while that OUAT will dive further into a "Tangled" storyline (meaning more than just Rapunzel). Those same rumors involve this episode, & they say that Mother Gothel might be the Black Fairy/Rumple's mom.

[@TastyGamingQc]

In retrospect this scene makes no sense if her plan was to save him down the line

[@avi4875]

And just like that the crazy, mess up, screwed up, totally weird family is completed

[@quynhnguyen9342]

Wow, Peter Pan and the Black Fairy? Didn't see that coming.

[@pennyworkman3088]

Rumble's father became Peter Pan after him and Rumble took the majic bean to Neverland. Rumble looked to be about 10 yrs old

[@vicky_uche8349]

+penny WORKMAN The black fairy could of made Rumples dad young again and they ended up having sex.Than she gets mad at pan for some reason makes him older again and has Rumple than abandons them both thats what I think may have happened.

[@nicolem9839]

Dark Spirit same this was suprising

[@HeartOfEmpathy]

She was probably manipulated by pan, which is why she abandoned rumple and turned dark

[@duyngocduyhung]

HeartOfEmpathy but that was before he become Peter Pan right?

[@Ivanchy91]

yes, he didn't have sex and had Rumple as Peter, he was Malcolm at the time. There was a flashback in season 3 where adult Malcolm and very little Rumple are together and then then Malcolm abandones him.

[@lana2884]

Probably Pan stole her Rumple, and then she started stealing babies from other mothers

[@leidenschaftfaul]

The story is getting worse - but seeing Jamie Murray and Robert C. in the same scene is like a dream came true *-*

[@princegrimhilde1589]

I love her voice

[@kwabesvision]

I can't believe it!!!!

[@altinaykor364]

some people say Black fairy is an imaginary character by writers! maybe it's true, maybe not! but for me, here it is Changeling: I think we all know the myth behind stolen children in medieval old European countries and especially Scotland(where Rumple and his father originally come from) The Enchantress: some say the Enchantress who turned beast, is actually his mother. La Llorona: loosing her baby or babies(maybe killing them, herself, maybe not) and spending the eternity, searching for her baby or babies and instead steeling other people's children but never finding what she's looking for and making other people miserable in the process. well, we all know she did make her child miserable and didn't exactly needed to kill him to do so. Banshee: a creature who's a fairy and also a dead baby in backstory but not exactly a benevolent and pretty kind of fairy

[@madalinarisipitu7170]

Yes you are right

[@shilohlol5801]

Aww poor Rumple

[@sdm47]

That one character in season 1: “why do you hate nuns (fairies) so much?” Me watching season 6: “wow, late in the game answering that question”

[@julesclarke6140]

Hahaha Jaime Murray, I recognized her voice before I could see her

[@lovinmusicevryday]

Oh my goodness it's Jaimie Murray! I love her.

[@newyorker2581]

I love that actress. I think she's also H.G. Wells in Warehouse 13

[@denisesiimamukama990]

sometimes i hate belle ! she jus pisses me off with all her niceness😒😒

[@grantperry5180]

Agreed. Plus I just find her to be overly dramatic.

[@idktbh92929]

@Big Ol Internet Troll Belle is that you?

[@xenafan15]

Holy shit lol haven't been watching this season but Jaime Murray might just make me watch again. I've loved her foreverrrr

[@iamvia9749]

love Jaime too :D

[@valvihk3649]

I love how this show explained why Peter Pan hated his son, he loved his wife more. It's such an unconventional thing to show in a fairy tale, its true but society usually shuts those voices down. You cannot love your spouse more than your child. You cannot love yourself more than your child. etc.

[@BeeKee404]

The description is wrong. It should be "Rumple's Mother finally Revealed!"

[@MasonPerry7]

Something tells me Snow White and the Black Fairy may officially have a past I don't think the writers would skip a juicy tale about how Snow crossed paths with Her and what deal she made to get that Black Fairy dust, she intended to use on Regina, but ended up using it on herself.

[@thesecretside2803]

Honestly. How tf did Snow even get the dust. It’s not like the local merchant down the road sells it

[@mistymoody6291]

The mom fooled me, because i saw a clip in which her son fairy told the mom that her son had to die in order for others to live and in this scene she laughs at her son pain.,

[@nikapokrovsky1955]

Still shocked that they mentioned her even back in season 3

[@disneyrules7808]

Jaime Murray is a very good actress.

[@perrinw6477]

She's lying she didn't choose power over him the only reason she's a fairy in the first place is because she turned herself into one to help protect him turns out he's a savior or he was supposed to be until she altered his fate to protect him and she invented the dark curse and then got vanished before she could cast it the only reason she's evil in the first place and she kidnaps kids because she's trying to find her way back to him she can only leave her Dimension temporarily long enough to bring people back with her so she can find a way out and cast The Curse she wants to erase what he Humanity left in em or at least that's the plan she has now but I'm pretty sure she just wants to cast the dark curse to get an upgrade so she could find MN and make sure she doesn't become a hero but now her plan is changed that was all the kids she kept that she plans to use one of them to free her and cast the dark curse and give him all the power that he wants now that she knows he's The Dark One.

[@perrinw6477]

What I mention MN I mean him

[@enigmashadowman8821]

This revelation just makes me wonder, if Rumple's parents are Peter Pan and The Black Fairy, why did he need to become The Dark One again after Emma and Hook banished the darkness from themselves. Surely he has magic through biological means with fairy blood running through his veins.

[@sexycspan1]

Owen Whalley true but just maybe it either was not enough or he had no power and was just normal..time will tell lol

[@Xandypn]

Owen Whalley Actually it looks like both his mother and his papa became what they were after having him.

[@Ninetailpower2]

Emma and Killian did not destroyed the darkness. Merlin told her, if she brought him back it would multiply the darkness, create something even Excalibur could not destroyed. This season we learn, you cannot destroy darkness without destroying the host, leading to the idea, that in order to destroy the darkness fully, Killian, Emma and Rumpel would need to die as well.

[@enigmashadowman8821]

I never said they destroyed it. They BANISHED it from themselves using Excalibur, unknowing that Rumple had turned the sword into a conduit for the Dark One powers, so that they could be his again. What I want to know is why Rumple needed to when he has fairy blood and, with that, the potential to wield Fairy Magic.

[@Ninetailpower2]

Owen Whalley i think you need a wand to wield fairy magic. but the man have those already. And i think rumpel's reason for taking the darkness was some bs given to Emma. The man wasn't in the backroom of the shop for the long to do what he did. He also did tell Emma Excalibur chose its miracles. At that time Emma was full of darkness so Excalibur wouldn't have done anything for her. The most likely scenario was he did as backup plan. In case both Hook and Emma kill one another and were unable to banished the darkness. Another thing was Killian was in the Under World. Meaning he did not die a Hero's death like Neal. So he wasn't send to his little island where he could had lived the rest of his life as a hero. Meaning the plan did not work. Although actions heroic in some eyes, its result were fruitless. Meaning had Gold not interfere the darkness would had simply just would had got out

[@diggersam8865]

I think the Black Fairy was forced to give up Rumple by the Blue Fairy, cause the Blue Fairy knows more then she leads on and the fact that the Black Fairy was surprised to see him as if she didn't expect it. Is it possible that Blue may have forced Black Fairy to abandon Rumple or took him from her?

[@starcharger17]

It's entirely possible. Don't know if you've seen the episode yet, but that's actually what happened. Good guess!

[@acupoftaeandsugakookies9330]

Rumple: Why did you abandon me? His Mom: haha... you have to choose power over love Rumple: (stands there) I come in... Me: HOW DARE U SAY THAT... (takes Rumple's mom's heart and crushes it to dust) She doesn't deserve a heart anyway. She doesn't accept love so why have a heart. plz dont judge... plz dont..

[@_Spy_]

Don't just crush her heart! Cut her into pieces and then crush her!

[@MinsterGames]

No fairy...I am your son. Fairy: no that's not true...THATS IMPOSSIBLE! the dark one: search your feelings you know it to be true!

[@_Spy_]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@sreddi83]

With the bloodline that has Black Fairy, Peter Pan, Rumple how big a disappoint was Belfire.

[@djvegapowell]

sreddi83 he got snow whites daughter pregnant so he won 💀😂

[@sreddi83]

JAKODI REACTS Not sure it was worth dying like a noob though :P

[@K1NG0FW0LV35]

Peter Pan banged a fairy? Now I know why Tinkerbell is always jealous

[@TFD-sn5nt]

Anyone finds Bell, Emma and Snow the most hypocrites character in the whole show? These 3 are my least favorite. They was such a waste of screen time

[@ink5200]

-what do you do? -I run a family business -and more specifically? -we steal children.

[@dearmalaysia]

i demand a flashback episode on Peter Pan and the Black Fairy!!! Tell us why she abandoned Rumple! why pan took him in! why she left!

[@corinnedrake3628]

Malcolm is his name before pan yes there is a small scene of them together

[@superspiderultrasound5186]

2:09 that laugh

[@signer25]

Black fairy choice power over her son. Peter pan choice the power of the dream world known as neverland over his son. Its know wonder rumble craves power. Especially when he was denied the power of his destiny by his mother. If rumble hadnt erased the memory and took the fall for killing baywolf even bailfire would of been evil craving power. But rumble protected his son innocence so that his son could be good. Breaking the family chain of evil. Despite having a selfish mother who choice traveling the world over her son. If bailfire had been evil and emma with her potential for darkness (the flying beast targer) henry too would of been evil. With evil henry and a Cinderella who kills lucy would be evil. Of course rumple broke the family chain of evil by protecting baelfire innocence.

[@soixsantes]

everything you said is true, and baelfire was what than rumple loved the most in his life

[@mefo45]

At 0:47 isn't it as if Rumple is in front of a cinema screen showing a movie starring the Black Fairy?