The #1 Square On The Chessboard | Logical Chess Ep. 20

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@Lordpulkit 4 ай бұрын

I really appreciate the focus on the importance of striking key squares rather than just attacking or defending pieces. This concept was new to me, especially since I couldn't see how it applies without knight jumps, checks, or pawn wins. Your explanation has helped me realize how crucial it is to keep a balanced approach in my games. I often find myself lost in trying to imagine all possible lines during a rapid game, which only leads to making poor tactical decisions. These insightful minutes have been incredibly valuable to me.. 😍

@NJDJ1986 4 ай бұрын

this is why im loving Logical Chess series! great episode, Nelson!

@aperkinsvt 4 ай бұрын

It all makes sense in hindsight. What’s hard is to see the importance of that square early in the game as a hook to hang your entire strategy on! What were the factors that pointed to it being so important from early on? Thanks for a great video, by the way! Love your channel!

@georgesayele5460 4 ай бұрын

Maybe I can say, it didn't give black chance to invade white territory 😅😅😅

@neonjoe529 4 ай бұрын

I had the same question. Maybe because it's preventing the backward pawn from advancing?

@Stumpchunkman226 4 ай бұрын

My question exactly.

@danielj.8876 4 ай бұрын

After black played bxc6 the c5-square became the main weakness of blacks position; since black had already pushed the d-pawn past that square and there's no b-pawn left to control it, so any piece you can land there will never get kicked away by a pawn. The only other squares with that kind of property at this point are a6, which is much less useful being on the rim of the board, and c6 which would also be nice to control but since your light squared bishop has a hard time reaching that it's easier to focus on c5 instead. A general takeaway is, you don't always have to make controlling such squares your entire game plan, but realizing when a square in the enemy camp can never be attacked by one of their pawns and using that for one of your minor pieces may give you a great advantage.

@gosukiwi 4 ай бұрын

It was a nice game, and great coverage, thanks for sharing! I think controlling that square in particular has to do with the fact that to attack a pawn you should control the square in front of it, making the c-pawn a backwards pawn. Very good illustration on how to play against that, also notice that White traded a lot of pieces, which is good for that kind of positions.

@emilsadykhov123 4 ай бұрын

At 18:08 you could also go Rc8, if QxR pxQ, Bxc8 and Qd8+ picks up the bishop. If 1. BxR then just promote to a queen

@cadleo 4 ай бұрын

You dont really explain how they knew to go for C5 though. Did they just pick a rando square and focus on it? Why that square?

@W1ndyyyyyyyy 4 ай бұрын

No pawn in B or D file to defend that square, a weakness created by black's moves after Tarrasch defense opening

@ytguy726 4 ай бұрын

It's like midfield in soccer. Control over midfield means control of the game.

@ytguy726 4 ай бұрын

Most invasions occur via queenside for one and 5 is a central row. Just my thoughts.

@GlobalWarmingSkeptic 4 ай бұрын

Once black creates the backward pawn on c6, one common plan is to control the square in front of the pawn so it can't push, and so you can blockade it. It's very hard to defend a blockaded pawn. So in general, when you see backward pawns you want to force your opponent to spend resources defending them, because it usually lands you in a better position. What you saw in the game is once the opponent spent every resource defending the c6 pawn, Rubeinstein went for a6 and that's how the c6 pawn was ultimately won, not always by piling up on it but forcing the opponent to spend every resource defending it.

@hamerovv 4 ай бұрын

The real reason is that the only weakness on WHITE’s structure is the diagonal. Best seen if you remove the white bishop from the board when it is still there. And the only square for black to control this diagonal is the one mentioned. Once you covered an attack from this diagonal you can proceed with your own attack

@RayWall 4 ай бұрын

13:40 spoken like a true member of society

@SupremeInvigilator 4 ай бұрын

@jacksparrowsnose 4 ай бұрын

💀

@moth4286 4 ай бұрын

Deaf people: 😄 Blind people: ☠💀⚰

@moth4286 4 ай бұрын

also why does he sound uncannily like lightning mcqueen

@TheShawnMower 4 ай бұрын

Lmfao bro

@GlobalWarmingSkeptic 4 ай бұрын

I can see the logic behind this but I am stuck at 1350 because to be honest I struggle with coming up with the "right" middle game plan. That's the hardest part of chess, untangling all of the complexities of middlegame positions and having the right balance of finding your opponent's weaknesses and not creating ones of your own. I quit chess for 18 years after age 20 when I got tired of playing it, and recently just started back a year and a half ago, and I feel like my lack of experience at the game hurts me in that regard, because there's some things you just have to "know" when you see certain patterns.

@toastbrot97 4 ай бұрын

10:56 i thought of Qc2. And i'm not quite sure what the difference is to Qd4. They seem to both accomplish very similar things. They both keep everything defended and open up a lot of good squares for the queen. Qc2 opens up the whole diagonal for the queen for example. Also i though keeping the queen further back makes it less likely to get pushed around by the opponent compared to d4. The queen is also defended on c2 and is creating a battery with the rook with the immidiate threat to capture on c6. The only issue that is see is that the queen is temporarily taking away the square for the rook f2 Rook to double up, but other than then Qc2 strikes me as the more natural and solid move. I haven't put the position into the analysis yet, so all of this is only my own take on it. Edit: According to the engine Qc2 is only very lightly worse. Stockfish sais it's -0.2 compared to Qd2 and torch says -0.15. So it seems my analysis was mostly correct.

@BananaDope Ай бұрын

Yeah but haven't we made the whole game about the C5 square?

@drxyd 4 ай бұрын

Im surprised I followed this game so clearly and predicted most of the moves. Your content has made a huge difference in my play, my puzzle rating shot up first (2150) and rapid is slowly catching up.

@tldreview 4 ай бұрын

@5:40 but how could we identify in advance that the C5 square will be important? Is it a consequence of the opening, of some board state like the difference in development, or the pawn structure or what? I feel like I have 0 shot of looking at a board and thinking "yeah, I need to control square X"

@W1ndyyyyyyyy 4 ай бұрын

It was a backwards pawn, and the pawn on the B file was gone. Therefore, black had no way to defend that square with another pawn. Black's only solution would've been to push the C pawn to make sure that there's no weakness caused by the pawn structure. However, as you saw in the game, white controlled the weakness caused by the backwards pawn

@tldreview 4 ай бұрын

@@W1ndyyyyyyyy even if black had managed to push the pawn, isn't the pawn on C5 itself a weakness?

@gaopinghu7332 4 ай бұрын

@@tldreview not nearly as much if it remained on c6, for the simple fact that from c5 it can actually move forward, or let the d pawn move forward while supporting it, something that couldn't possibly happen from c6. In short, these pawns do nothing and your job is to make sure they keep doing nothing. The c and d pawn could steamroll your pieces if left unattended, with c5 d4 c4 and so on.

@shoumyajitroy5102 4 ай бұрын

Dear Sir...am greatly enjoying this logcal chess series...keep up the good work...eagerly waiting for the next game in the logical series...thanks

@MrGoatMan3895 4 ай бұрын

Do this series for more books like this

@AAABeatbox 4 ай бұрын

15:01, once black rook attacked queen, coudn't the white rook take the black pawn winning an extra pawn? If rook takes queen then rook also takes queen but by this move you win an extra pawn and establish two connected pass pawns.

@RyanMcLeanau 4 ай бұрын

I still don’t understand why the game was focused on the C5 square. Why couldn’t black move the focus of the game somewhere else?

@tinyricklaker8554 4 ай бұрын

Crazy how much that position is key

@Confluence358 4 ай бұрын

1650 Elo here -- I'm still note quite sure how you "choose" to go after the c5 square. I can see in retrospect how it became super important, but I don't see how I'd think to establish a plan to go after c5. Was this something white knew he was going to do from the beginning? Or is it something that just became more important as the position unfolded? If it's the former, how would one know to choose c5 as opposed to trying to gain control of another square instead? Basically, how would one decide to even choose this plan in the first place?

@akaegotist 4 ай бұрын

Was also wondering the same thing

@akaegotist 4 ай бұрын

Perhaps it's something you notice about a set of positions that derive from an opening

@manoftheforest7505 4 ай бұрын

C5 is on Black's half of the board, close to the centre, and directly in front of the backward pawn on c6.

@talongodin2253 4 ай бұрын

I think Rubenstein knew that the backward pawn on c6 would become a liability, so taking advantage of that by blockading the pawn and restricting black's options

@marcwright9442 4 ай бұрын

This book club chess series is like a weekly Master Class.

@TheShawnMower 4 ай бұрын

Amazing recap amd a beautiful strategy. I learned a lot from this game

@thegodroxas 4 ай бұрын

Yes in the end it was shown that it was the best, but how do you even see that so soon in the game

@vakar4k 4 ай бұрын

Even though i didnt understand the significance of that square but it did give me a plan to pick any square on the board and position all the pieces around that sqaure and hopefully some good advandage will occur due to it.

@ayushrajwani7376 4 ай бұрын

I believe Nelson mentioned that white has greater space because of controlling that square c5. At 12:54 he made us realise that black doesn't have any candidate moves to stop c6 pawn. PS: As soon as bxc6 happened, d5 become unisolated but c6 becamed a backward pawn (positionally weak). If white allowed c5, the pawns would be connected (positionally strong pawn). I am assuming that this is the reason why white needed to control that c5 square.

@Birdingtheorist 4 ай бұрын

Best chess channel on KZbin.

@Methylimidazol 4 ай бұрын

15:03 Why not Rxa6, counterattacking black's queen? That would win us another pawn in the end and we are left with two connected passed pawns.

@jefftaylor1186 4 ай бұрын

The sole reason why I like to play the Caro-Kann: Advance Botvinnik Defense as black is because you can get down to the c5 square fight on move 3, and you get to fight on your own terms.

@frankbrown6305 4 ай бұрын

Nelson my question is the c5 square important because that’s where the attack took place due to the advantage of whites piece placement. And lack of blacks ability to defend the square in that particular opening? Or is that square always important in all opening? Thank you for your time.

@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын

!!!! My question as well. Is c5 always (usually?) as important as we see in this game or are there other squares that take on disproportionate importance with different openings? Love the lesson Nelson!

@SupremeInvigilator 4 ай бұрын

Also my question. Thankls.

@TheBfitzpatrick 4 ай бұрын

He's mentioned before that c5 is especially important in d4 openings. I don't think it's always a critical square. For d4 openings, it's important because it's a natural pawn break to strike at whites center, and claim space in the center.

@JoeAverage2006 4 ай бұрын

It became a weakness to exploit in this particular game due to the b and d pawns not being able to defend it

@rife133 4 ай бұрын

Great vid as usual Nelson. Good stuff

@markosborn3079 4 ай бұрын

Another great video, thanks! Hope your voice gets better soon 👍

@giorgioevangelisti1369 4 ай бұрын

this game was a masterpiece, so interesting!

@elendarulianreo 4 ай бұрын

15:00--Ra8 doesn't really save the pawn because white can play Rxa6. The best black can do is a big trade where white has an extra (passed) pawn in a same-colored bishop endgame.

@sh0ker 4 ай бұрын

You just blundered a rook!

@Promptshot 4 ай бұрын

@@sh0kerexplain how that blunders a rook?

@KhangTheSupremeRuler 4 ай бұрын

@@Promptshot Qxa6

@Promptshot 4 ай бұрын

@@KhangTheSupremeRuler just recapture with the queen?!?!?

@elendarulianreo 4 ай бұрын

@@sh0ker Um, no? Stockfish agrees with me, by the way. Rxa6 is the best move here.

@Methylimidazol 4 ай бұрын

18:23 What's wrong about Rb5, attacking the queen, while being defended by the queen?

@WaldoWizard 4 ай бұрын

Wish you came with the book Nelson ! .. Just open the book and get the lesson. GREAT BOOK to own

@anassorbestiak 4 ай бұрын

How do you decide the square to focus on?

@haleymartin9342 4 ай бұрын

Seconding this. Playing positionally requires the skill of identifying the key squares in a position, but I'm not sure what principles to use to figure it out. (Book recommendations welcome too!)

@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын

There was an isolated pawn, I think. So white chose c5 for positional advantage maybe.

@anthonym1880 4 ай бұрын

c5 square is the furthest forward outpost that can't ever be attacked by a pawn (besides a5, which is less important)

@Limpedalong 4 ай бұрын

It is less about the square, and more about the pawns. White originally was attacking the isolated d pawn. Once the pawn on c6 moved over in the trade, the d pawn was no longer isolated, but this new c pawn is (backwards aka isolated, as in it has no pawns behind it on neighboring files to defend). The c5 square exploits this by blockading the pawn on c6, so blacks pawns are essentially frozen together here. Only blacks pieces can defend the c5 square, so white is able to manipulate all exchanges in their favor without having to worry about losing pieces to pawns-because c6 is isolated!

@hans202008 4 ай бұрын

At 16:05 what about rook C8? Does it just lose to Bishop takes a6?

@ArjanD78 4 ай бұрын

We're constantly looking out for attacks on pieces/pawns. So is it hard to see that white is attacking "just" a square? Did black know what was going on in this game? And are there moves that show that he knew? Another question: You said that moving the f-pawn in front of the king isn't a problem, because the bishop controls the diagonal. Why put the bishop on c5 and then trade it off. Wouldn't it be better to put the knight on c5?

@dukex9269 Ай бұрын

this is really interesting. tnx for your content

@stevenwilson5556 3 ай бұрын

A game that is simply a Master Class

@tylerbruce3189 4 ай бұрын

Hey Nelson, taking your course currently going through middle game just wondering if you could do a video on your channel for common ways, positions or lines for setting up discovery moves or checks? Might be very informative to have some examples from you as I find these harder to see from others but very effective when I use them but I would like to train my eye/vision further on this very useful tool thanks very much in advance if you decide to.

@SnowyPhillips 4 ай бұрын

Do you have a logical chess playlist? It would be nice if you could make one.

@Llama_vet 4 ай бұрын

Yeah just look at his playlist.

@SnowyPhillips 4 ай бұрын

@@Llama_vet I have looked in his playlists and there is not one called "Logical Chess".

@hathawayamato 4 ай бұрын

Great explanation. I have a question though. While the C5 clearly super critical in this game, does this principle apply to every single game? Or is it important because of the conditions of this game? Thank you Nelson for the great content as always.

@ManosErikosKlapsakis 4 ай бұрын

Well done dude 😎👍🏿❤🎉

@claudedupras2492 4 ай бұрын

This is chess teaching at its best

@claytonbenignus4688 4 ай бұрын

At timestamp 14:30 , why not Pc5 instead of Re7?? NxP NxN RxP cuts the losses to only a Pawn.

@red-brat 4 ай бұрын

I think what misses here is an explanation of why pushing the C-pawn would cause white problems. As a beginner that's what confuses me - how he even understood that early in the game that he needs to prevent that push. For me the only explanation that I really understood from this video is that black would be tied up defending the weak c6 pawn and be cramped because of it which will give white an advantage. But still, how you can know that early in the game that black would be defending it at all costs and not just trade it to some underdefended pawn of white or come up with some tactics to make c-pawn push possible? You just can't be sure unless you just calculate all the possible moves of black for 10 moves ahead.

@ChristopherChing-f6i 4 ай бұрын

I thought the center was the most important square 🤯.

@andrewa256 4 ай бұрын

Hello . Is this only a super important square for white, or for black too?

@rkellyone 4 ай бұрын

Good question!

@caroline7648 4 ай бұрын

In every chess game there will be certain squares more important than others. While playing it might not be obvious that a battle over a certain square is taking place, but in hindsight its very clear. In this particular case it seems to be the c5 square.

@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын

It had to do with black having an isolated pawn, I believe.

@JStankXPlays 4 ай бұрын

And he sacrifices THE ROOOK😅

@apstrike 4 ай бұрын

Why was it in Black's interest to fight a battle on the queen side, especially after both kings castled?

@マウ-x7w 4 ай бұрын

16:55 Qc7 is a forced queen trade

@callumfrew285 4 ай бұрын

Dammit, KZbin, gimme a double-like button just for this channel!

@DumbPawn-g5e 4 ай бұрын

Please make playlist of 'Logical Chess' episodes.

@haleymartin9342 4 ай бұрын

There already is one

@msolec2000 4 ай бұрын

in the "post-mortem" scenarios I kept thinking Rc8 to follow with b8Q. Is that bad?

@kodekata 4 ай бұрын

"Because a Little Bug went Ka-CHOO!"

@sprinter144 4 ай бұрын

I just played a game in which I wanted to focus on the C5 square but my opponent kept coming at me on the other side of the board. In my mind I just F5 and it seemed like I ended up having the same advantages in your video. Is there any way that works also?

@juluisreyes9094 4 ай бұрын

12:03 white square black bishop is trapped by white pawn to f5

@kahrenheit3961 4 ай бұрын

Nelson is like a sandwich if you think about it. Both have amazing content.

@AnuAnu-si8ol 4 ай бұрын

Hi, will you plz do a same series about the book ^the art of attack in chess^ by Vladimir Vukovic

@MarkLeinhos 4 ай бұрын

How did white determine so early in the game to control C5, and commit all those pieces to it?

@Llanchlo 4 ай бұрын

9:40 Any tips on why Bc5 rather than Nc5? Whenever I get into this type of position where a blockade is planned I invariably (perhaps 80/20) seem to choose the worst option (at least per Stockfish) when it is positional rather than some more obvious tactic - sometimes a minor issue but sometimes losing a winning advantage. If I cannot see clearly I would tend to choose the N on the basis of the adage that a N is a good blockade piece. Sometimes I might choose B on the basis that when the dust settles I would rather have the N there if black exchanges - but that still falls into the 80% wrong !

@flotto7045 4 ай бұрын

Engine actually prefers nc5. Pretty sure the thinking would be that you don't eant black to just trade their bishop for your strong blockading knight.

@李允中-b6u 4 ай бұрын

The obvious reason would be that Nc5 loses the b pawn. But there are things more important than a pawn though.......

@madhavmanoj3881 4 ай бұрын

nelson why didint white play bb5 instead of b4 pls say

@farouqbaiti4315 4 ай бұрын

Cool game.👏🏻👍🏻

@farouqbaiti4315 4 ай бұрын

10:33 Rc2 is blocking the protection of the Queen to the Knight and the Knight might be saved to c3 but blocking the Rooks in the future.🤡💀

@liternix 4 ай бұрын

That's a classic game

@djartur25 4 ай бұрын

What was black's crucial mistake?

@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын

Maybe no crucial mistakes. Maybe black played a decent game but white slowly took advantage of sight weaknesses and added them up over t8me to have a winning position. Or, maybe black should not have made a play to end with an isolated pawn. Then again, I’m sure it was a calculated risk. There is so much judgement involved. Nelson often says things like, “there are two or three good moves, I need to pick the one that is slightly better”. A bishop for a knight? Maybe, if I get positional advantage and it works with my attack or defence. And maybe I like my knights more than my bishops compared to other players.

@otaviodiniz5934 4 ай бұрын

"They say all squares are played equal, but you see me opening and you see Samoa Joe opening, and you can see this statement is not true!"

@cytechflow6273 4 ай бұрын

Indeed

@roughera6324 4 ай бұрын

00:34 😂😂😂

@matthiasho1412 4 ай бұрын

Hi from Singapore

@zman3484 4 ай бұрын

How to defend against the Grand Prix attack.

@timchapman5553 4 ай бұрын

I always thought that c4 was more powerful

@arnoudh6203 4 ай бұрын

Geampleigh!!

@rajanne2947 4 ай бұрын

Nice C5 square! LoL from Madras city India (Carlson won in our city ...)

@fullestegg 4 ай бұрын

can't believe it's not f7 or f2

@darragiraafet7754 4 ай бұрын

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@СветланаКузьменко-з4и 4 ай бұрын

Guys there is oil on that square

@mannequinplayer 4 ай бұрын

nice

@tristandaughtrey7044 4 ай бұрын

🎉

@abdhulhameed1901 4 ай бұрын

Hi Nelson bro

@kennethgee2004 4 ай бұрын

never play f3

@WrJoker 4 ай бұрын

Hey! Why not taking the same idea and make some change? The forbidden square: Every move, one square become ''red'' at random, so it kill the piece on it. Rule: 1) The king can't be kill with ''red square'' so it does nothing. 2) If a ''red square'' is chosen and the king is on it, add +1 red square for every move. So instead of 1 ''red square'' by move, its 2 and so. :)