The 15 Best Weapons For PvP (God Roll Guide)

[@gehrigmichael8166]

I remember back in my day you got rose from a quest and eventually turned it into thorn, which was extremely meta back in the day

[@fotis3v480]

Rose was Lumina i think. Thorn was quesst.

[@WilliMaito]

Rose turned into lumina, mr.back in my day

[@NobleBok]

Thorn came from a quest related to that shrieker boss if I remember correctly. Rose turned in to Lumina, that I’m 100% certain off.

[@gehrigmichael8166]

Really? I was told that you got thorn from that quest. I never actually finished the quest before it got put in the dcv so I always just assumed that was how you got thorn.

[@fotis3v480]

No Thorn was a modified strike which was actually decently hard, Rose turned into Lumina. ​@@gehrigmichael8166

[@ChrisPiciullo]

Someone buy this guy a thesaurus and bookmark the page with the word "fantastic" on it.

[@Cant_be_Zombified]

Skill issue

[@sovndscvpe]

What's thesaurus?

[@mrchun4018]

@@sovndscvpea dictionary for synonyms and antonyms

[@KinesisOnXbox]

​@@sovndscvpe a rare dinosaur

[@Gues21ng_tpwnn]

@@sovndscvpeit’s THE dinosaur

[@Kallosar]

Thanks so much for this vid! Came back to D2 for Into the Light and needed to know what I could use in the crucible and trials 😭.

[@Moobeus]

Best pvp gun in the game right now is igneous hammer. The ideal roll you want smallbore, ricc rounds, fragile focus, precision instrument, stability MW and stability mod. With this setup you will have 100 range with fragile focus, you can 2 head 1 body with prec in which you can’t anymore without, and you get the max amount of stability you can have while also having 100 range. Which is 72 stability. With stability that high you won’t even have any need to adjust for recoil unless you fire 7 shots in a row. Only after 7 shots at 72 stability will it start catching its own reset to rest time. Pair that with a good burden of guilt and you’ll have the best pvp loadout in the game rn IMO. Only thing I recommend, which I do anyway but especially in this case, is to run holster mods. There’s literally nothing better to run on legs anyway.

[@CosmosCat]

Ideally you want keep away, actually. Fragile focus is nice, but Keep Away provides half the range of FF, 30 reload speed to help out with it since it’s often neglected, -5% growth to your accuracy cone, *and* helps you to figure out when someone is within 15 meters of you even if they’re invis.

[@Moobeus]

@@CosmosCat fragile focus is the only way to have 100 range while also having the max possible stability.

[@WetikoD2]

alright, you forgot the two smgs that are slowly taking shayura's spot as top dog energy smg - Funnelweb and Calas mini tool. The consistency and long range reach with a killing wind+rangefinder roll on funnelweb should NOT be ignored. As for calus mini tool, moving target double dips into the lightweight frame for added movement and tap the trigger/eye of the storm for bonus accuracy. Also, if you wanna dip EVEN MORE into the movement, elemental capacitor with stasis titan on the funnelweb is unnaturally fast during gunfights.

[@collamus6901]

I would love to see a description of each of the weapon sub-archetypes and maybe some decent pvp options for each of the weapon archetypes. I rarely see content breaking down pros and cons of entire weapon archetypes in pvp. Might be more geared towards beginner players but still i think it could be very valuable information to have as a resource. Just a thought.

[@WilliMaito]

i love my adaptive pulses, even the tiniest damage buff makes them 2-burst, my favorite one is syncopation, it has a great perk pool and i can pair it with bakris or athyrs embrace very nicely

[@Doinkski]

Ive always loved syncopation in pvp

[@sofabored2150]

I personally recommend Trust from Gambit because you don't have to worry about elo when farming it.

[@zionzorshin1579]

thron is also up there with the good hand cannons it makes it longer for people to recover

[@Krackalackamore]

The catalyst makes it bonkers

[@rextervoid5884]

Number 3: Luna's Howl *shows Not Forgotten gameplay* 😅

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodWraith]

I’ve seen Banshee selling amazing roll true prophecy in the past few weeks. I got one with steadyhand hcs, tactical mag, opening shot, explosive payload and a handling mw and it’s so good. I also think it just generally feels crisp as hell. If you see a good roll on one of these from Banshee, trust me and buy it.

[@C.AxelJorgensen]

- I really liked that you said "Weapon x" on the timestamps to not spoil them. - I was surprised that DMT didn't make it on here - I am baffled you didn't put thorn on here - Thanks for your awesome information!

[@DrMetalpin]

Thorn definitely. So good.

[@jakedrago7805]

I’d say you are spot on as this list represents vast majority of what I see every day

[@voiiid_Dem0n]

Heliocentric QSC been feeling good lately 👌

[@kingstaccz85]

Currently the best sidearm in the game

[@fotis3v480]

It's legit broken, i thought it was 'adaptive' and was like what's the hype adaptives are just 'good'. Then i got one and saw it's 'lightweight' and different rpm and used it in PvP GOOD LORD....still not beating Drang which is arguably the best sidearm for PvP to ever exist but it's such a melter if you can take those extra steps to close in the 17m band it has.

[@IOSARBX]

Daltnix, I really enjoyed this video, so I hit the like button!

[@223ndog]

You should on every video you watch and enjoyed.

[@mnoell35]

I’ve been using Last Rite for months in PVP. So many kills with it!

[@munkeyman6298]

I tend to avoid PVP like it has HPV, but I am tired of having a bunch of catalyst quests in my log, so cranking them out. A video with tips on doing that would be great!

[@Jangowo]

Punching Out is the secret meta 👽

[@wrongthink3885]

Agreed, as is the void version.

[@ItsNukem]

Shhhhhh don’t tell

[@michaelconti7431]

Good list a gun i’d say belongs is rufus fury the gun absolutely slaps and if you run it with another raid weapon you get a handling boost one of my favorite guns

[@keithgabbard3539]

This video was fantastic .

[@JoeMurray5]

Thanks for covering hammerhead. Rampage for making a 4hs all resil is great. Very curious about rampage + high impact reserves. Killing tally of course is awesome

[@michaellupton7260]

Im usually paring conditional with igneous or summoner right now

[@ByAzura]

lol what inspired you to come up with that unique combo?

[@michaellupton7260]

@ByAzura what you mean? Nobody uses that combo 😁

[@Clambo226]

Thanks for these lists!!

[@killadile]

9:32 uh yeah I can't believe it took them almost a DECADE to bring back the Stranger's rifle you know AFTER you finish the MAIN STORY IN Destiny 1 when Elise the EXO STRNAGER GAVE IT TO YOU!

[@lordpeebus]

It’d be cool to see some gameplay with sunset weapons now that they’ll be returning!

[@Daltnix]

Oh don't you worry. I have plans for something like that!

[@islxndz3367]

Great video man, I really can’t wait to see how LH feels with the different perks! I will say though, at the end of the day the game is mostly about personal preference and input device (kinda) but putting midnight coup over austringer had me curious about why you prefer it

[@Daltnix]

I actually prefer austringer. just user preference. I feel the super high aim assist makes midnight very strong and along with it having explosive pay load.

[@islxndz3367]

@@Daltnix ah I see, explosive payload is always an amazing perk to have. Like you said, it’s all down to preference at the end of the day!

[@christophercluster728]

Having midnight coup and rose over Thorn and Austringer is crazy work and no matador or found verdict is insane.

[@daquancurry7805]

Compared to what he mention those weapons are alright minus thorn which could replace ace of spades but austringer is super mid compared to just about every other 140 out there now.

[@daquancurry7805]

And matador and found verdict fell off a little aince the energy slot is saved for primaries now so conditional rules the kinetic slot.

[@christophercluster728]

@@daquancurry7805 matador and found verdict are the only 2 options for energy shotguns anything else is a reach so putting the number 1 options behind ✨ hung jury is a stretch, and Austringer is one of if not the best dueling hc with eos/zen moment, with 70+range(which is where most hcs fall) and upwards of 70+ stability most cap out at 50-65. So saying it’s mid is a reach bud

[@yux8331]

ive been popping off with scalar potential in 6v6

[@shmarpRL]

imo not forgotten is just lunas howl but better because it has more range with the same perks and damage

[@xKINGxRCCx]

Wait you can still play “Presage” mission right now and get red border Drangs to drop?

[@DoomFN_ツ]

Do you need The Final Shape do get Midnight Coup?

[@Zammle]

Really good video !

[@kingstaccz85]

You can’t get lunas howl atm from onslaught, you have to wait till reset when it’s implemented

[@protocore4034]

Blast furnace headseeker and kill clip is really good

[@likafoss]

From the comments, seems like a part 2 is needed. Haven't seen Cloudstrike or Matador/Fractethyst (the only legendary options imo because precision frame) Also I've seen some talk about Austringer and Heliocentric.

[@DiddyCanFly]

I have been using NF to get used to the recoil for Luna’s returning and as a 140, my brain is constantly confused lol

[@blaketaylor2441]

Moving target opening shot on rose is a pretty uncommon and a fun one to play with too

[@TheHorseWhoKnows]

So glad I found this I thought my no distractions box breathing hung jury wasn’t this good so happy I found out I got a god roll

[@baggingem88]

Where’s the onslaught game mode or how too do u bring trophies too shaxx

[@JoeMurray5]

For time stamps if you can say the weapon name thanks

[@Shqiptaar46]

A perfect List I only can agree with but Ace is still and always will be my KING I love it sooooo much. As always *chefs kiss* Video brother!

[@mathemalic]

Curious to see where crafted outbreak will land!

[@ceizure18]

Nightshade has been feeling really good after the lightweight pulse buff. Keep away Headseeker has been putting in work

[@ichirakuramen2255]

I don’t know what it is about Ace of Spades but it’s the hardest hand cannon for me on controller to hit my shots.

[@xthecre8or735]

I used to feel the same about it on roller

[@likafoss]

Likely the stability/recoil direction throwing you off if you're used to other HC's

[@ichirakuramen2255]

@@likafoss my typical go to are the last word, ikelos HC, and igneous

[@STEASE]

Lunas USED to be 180rpm which is why it "feels" like a 180 even though it's now 140rpm.

[@Spectyrr]

i still use my old igneous with Rapid Hit , Rampage cause I haven't gotten a new good adept one

[@hiwar5052]

Ty really need ed this

[@TheBagMan0]

I’ll keep using my no survivors with rangefinder target lock tbh

[@Rhuqiaa]

You forgot about the Prosecutor that gun has 0 recoil and kills so fast

[@fptheghost]

I thought I was tripping but prosecutor is on the thumbnail but not mentioned in the vid.. honorable mention I guess lol

[@likafoss]

To be fair, Whisper of the Worm is also in the Thumbnail XD

[@majora919]

I get they're different slots but unending tempest does all the things you want in a smg better then shayuras

[@Lord-Hossa]

And yet we’ll still see people crying on the Destiny forums and subreddit that Handcannons are “meh” fucking wild to me that people don’t understand that 80% of the best PvP options are all HC’s…

[@ya-cv8jg]

Noob question: by 2 mobility from light frame, do you mean actual 2 mobility or 20 mobility?

[@Daltnix]

20 mobility

[@ya-cv8jg]

@@Daltnix thx you very much

[@likafoss]

2 mobility tiers I guess lol

[@sealryuwong2752]

Bro, you are not organizing the guns in "chronological order" because it means to organize them according to when they came out. Chrono means time. I think you mean that the list is not ranked by importance.

[@craigbryant9811]

I think most people got that.

[@ramudon2428]

Sure, but it's nice to help people learn things, so it's nice to point out when people have a moment that lends itself to growth ​@@craigbryant9811

[@TheMuffinMan15]

Melvin ass comment

[@Eqnotalent]

What happens to DMT? I stop playing in 2022. It use to be meta

[@KingGrippy]

Im glad i have a moving target and zen moment midnight.

[@jaidengutierrez3144]

The battler is still nasty even after an break

[@Donnychang455]

Please continue to make these videos

[@Daltnix]

I plan to with every patch

[@mosquitojames5690]

Broo you left out Final Warning and Fighting Lion

[@raptordc5]

Few pulses but forgot the 🐐 messenger

[@Deathtizity]

Lunas howl- shows not forgotten

[@Kranolah]

is it weird to say i don’t like midnight coup in pvp?

[@NFearz]

What about thorn w/ catalyst? Or is thorn trash nowadays?

[@Daltnix]

I think Thorn is good. just better stuff

[@ayufever1978]

absolutely shameful you did not talk about these two pure menace pvp guns: heliocentric sidearm with heal clip + kill clip, relentless with keep away + headseeker

[@turkialmahmoud2195]

Beloved is top tear and I recommend it

[@ramudon2428]

it's top tier for sure.

[@Saint411]

You put cryo in the thumbnail again, and still didn't list it man😭

[@meisteryoda7598]

I mean he also put Whisper in the Thumbnail lmao

[@Yit27]

Thorn baby and my crutch main ingredient

[@thawsomepancakes3615]

why is the dmt ornament not in my store i can’t play without it

[@SunderingLoki]

Hey man im a solo trials player is mercy is ferocity better?

[@Daltnix]

I think mercy is better

[@purpleguy3924]

mercy is almost always better

[@badjuju4535]

serious question: am i missing something? y is no one talkin about not forgotten coming back?

[@cogitoy7692]

Why do people dislike the 120 scouts if the hand cannons are considerd among the best in the game?

[@Daltnix]

the zoom on then makes them a lot harder to use a closer range. (other than dmt). 120 handcannons just feel a lot better with lower Zoom and better handling. Plus, the 120 hanfcannons have HUGE hit boxes where the 120 scouts are not as big.

[@cogitoy7692]

@@Daltnix thanks for the reply, padre!

[@Nivelenn]

great video

[@Chalibay415]

OOHHH MOM GET THE CAMERA, I'M ON TV

[@marshallman402]

The last word is easily the best gun in the game on controller

[@JuBu-]

Lumina is my Favorite Pvp weapon ❤🔥

[@romaniandad3444]

Chaperone?

[@idontdokick]

are legendary shotguns not meta

[@niikolozano8806]

and thon what do y think?

[@niikolozano8806]

thorn*

[@rickybobby6386]

Oh wow all hand cannons pretty much

[@Vidalburgos]

I would have labeled the chapters the weapon names otherwise good video

[@lollygirl39]

no dmt??

[@MrPrice2U]

Fantastic!

[@MICROKNIGHT3000]

What happened to Immortal?

[@Daltnix]

Both smg's and target lock got nerfed. It and other smgs are still very good. Just not op. personally, unless I'm playing a pk Titan I will not be using most smg's right now.

[@badvibez6602]

@@Daltnixtarrabah with pk still slaps

[@Daltnix]

@badvibez6602 💯 it does. honestly, it is a very underrated pick right now.

[@badvibez6602]

@@Daltnix real I don’t really take it off but recently I’ve been using necrochasm and that shi slaps too

[@DrMetalpin]

Chronological?

[@Yeezus04]

I thought thorn would have been in here ngl

[@Daltnix]

love thorn it's my favorite gun. don't feel like it's in the top 15 tho

[@ImPacTMaSTer1]

Wait a minute… the messenger is better than the elsies rifle… where is the messenger?!?!

[@Mark-99999]

Austrjger crafted god Tier

[@Daemonic6]

Especially for me Midnight is a mediocre gun, which I would say has bad stats. Also in this month I fell in love in 180s and in PvP Optative, Frontier's Cry, Posterity extremely good.

[@michaelg4044]

Really?

[@Daemonic6]

@@michaelg4044 Yeap

[@TutorialsStreamingGaming]

8 Shots? I get 4.

[@eriklaughlin1922]

Fantastic

[@MegaBeanHead0]

No skyburners? What a joke!

[@RIPJAW10]

Austringer…..

[@Delguisaurio]

So here is were the hand cannon meta slaves reunite 😂

[@wezleeclinton5850]

Hilarious video. 🤣 There’s only 1 god-tier weapons in that joke of a mode. Lag.

[@TrippyTravvy420]

Sick of seeing hand cannons tbh

[@williwolffergin]

Time to nerf all hand cannons, especially on m&k.

[@ramudon2428]

To what end?

[@mynona2491]

Man they butchered magnificent howl

[@dustins4016]

Seems like a lazy video. Would of been better if you had pictures up on the one you’re talking about

[@JoseRodriguez-rn3mu]

You used the word chronological wrong lol

[@benstrangvideos]

🤓☝️

[@paulhinterberger7438]

16:21 Why does my Conditional refuse to kill at this range 🥲