The 2000s Consensus is Over

[@seandelap8587]

Instead of flying cars and colonising other planets we have gotten an unending sea of madness

[@tetraquark2402]

I think that it's a fermi paradox filter: A civilisation reaches a certain point and disappears up it's own arse preventing it reaching for the stars

[@RichardEnglander]

Look at me! I am the flying car now! 😂

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

We can't go to other planets THIS IS IT we are meant to look inwardly and realise we are so broken that we desperately need Jesus Christ

[@HunterStiles651]

@@alreadybanned-pe6se 1: No reason we can't do both. 2: Christianity encourages us to do the opposite actually. It's the main thing that separates us from Buddhism: the realization that there's more to life than what's going on inside our souls.

[@HunterStiles651]

@@alreadybanned-pe6se No reason we can't do both.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

I miss the late 90's - early 2000's on a daily basis. Truly, it was as a great time to be alive, and young.

[@mattfm101]

Almost everyone lived in a dreamworld, that's why we have made so many insane decisions.

[@solan7978]

Trust, the 80's were even better!

[@stev3548]

I was thinking of that recently. Everything made sense then, culture/media was good, things were clean and orderly. Basic things and needs functioned and were attainable. We never thought of it as a golden age because stuff just made sense, why would you stop doing what made sense? Surely this will go on forever if we just stand still. It's obvious now what a precarious position that really is. And how jealously it ought to be guarded.

[@JayNichols-p2s]

The 80s were far superior!

[@mattfm101]

@@stev3548 Representing your people makes sense, globlism doesn't make sense as it takes control of ourr country and our diurection away from us.

[@bordocofrivia2896]

The older i get, the more i see the future as "mad max" as opposed to "back to the future."

[@Uppernorwood976]

At least Mad Max would be quite funny. Unfortunately, Children of Men is the more accurate model.

[@smelltheglove2038]

B2TF2 was pretty "Mad Max".

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

We're like Demolition Man but at least they had otherwise good morals aside from their woke nanny statism, so we're actually heading towards a worse version of Demolition Man in a more libertine/degenerate direction.

[@harbl99]

Trying to keep up the old ways as everything slowly gets worse? Yep.

[@mrlegkick91]

I thinking more like elysium. Like 99% of the world is fucked but theres still a wealthy elite that lives a sheltered, privileged life

[@ItsAGundam]

"Men Behaving badly" there is a title I haven't heard in eons. Used to be able to watch that on KZbin before it got lame.

[@gfortunate8650]

Cross Over Event

[@RB-tl8cf]

Maybe Sargon yes… Lotuseaters shouldn’t “skype” anonymously… just not the platform. They can perfectly exchange ideas on Sargon of Akkad… Let’s make this happen

[@K0nna13]

Some old lady once said the title of the show should be "Men behaving like men".

[@SCP--tp1qr]

Read Golden Kamuy gundam Greatest read no regrets

[@JPnielsen]

@@ItsAGundam wait... Are you British?

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

I got dragged to the Tate Modern today. There was nobody smiling, laughing or looking at the ‘art’ in wonderment and awe. Everyone looked dead-eyed. Stultified. I left and stood my the millennium bridge. London looked grey. All except St Paul’s, which was shining brightly in the sun, like a diamond atop a dung heap. I took an excellent photo to capture the moment 😄

[@buntyhoven9163]

I'm not surprised. Tate Modern is cr@p.

[@richardj9016]

lol

[@nonplayercharacter596]

St Paul, ora pro nobis

[@belstar1128]

modern art has been bad for a long time

​@belstar1128 Since it became modern. Stupid Marcuse take that art that isn't destroying civilization isn't good art.

[@HandiasTobil]

of course they hate pubs. men of working age just might talk ill of the authority unchecked and develop their own working class identity that might stand at odds with the powers to be.

[@secondchance6603]

There are people from a certain 'religion' that takes issue with anyone having the slightest bit of fun and freedom who are definitely not behind this... honest.

[@thetruth45678]

The Great Noticing blossoms in the grimmest of plots.

[@pietikke5598]

​@@secondchance6603Common man, who got them into the country ? Our own governments did. They did not get here thru osmoses. It is our governments doing this stuff and there are powerful people running them and it ain't the religion of peace.

[@secondchance6603]

@@pietikke5598 No you're correct, the government is definitely NOT bowing down to Muslims and their cult lol.

[@noreply-7069]

​@@secondchance6603 Oh yes and the people from ✡ religion and ethnicity organizations make sure to import more replacements.

[@Jalreal]

Tony Blair Britain was a mirage, built on an economic bubble. The UK has been in decline since the 1960s and it continues today. The chief cause of this decline is the culture of bureaucracy.

[@benjaminmorris3625]

We've been in decline from the start of last century

[@Uppernorwood976]

We’ve been in decline since 1914, my man.

[@MrLGD1234]

@@Uppernorwood976really was the starting gun

[@smelltheglove2038]

I am into guitar playing and collecting gear. I really like this guy's pedals who is out of England. Its really hard for his business all the red tape and regulations. He deals with analog components so thats all regulated. I was also watching "that pedal show" and the amount of hoops they had to jump through to find a location for their business that alllowed 100db+ noise for example, at least the one that stands out the most. Strange zoning. Probably not the most ridiculous regulation they dealt with though.

[@MrNPC]

You can more or less trace it back to when ever a country leaves the gold standard.

[@autumnleaves2766]

I'm a 60-year-old woman. In 2004 I returned to this country after seven years living in a southern European country. I can remember being appalled at the shocking levels of drunken debauchery taking place in the UK, people were consuming crazy amounts of alcohol. I was shocked to see a man "upskirting" a young woman at a railway station. It seemed to me like a country spiralling out of control. Blair started to do some real damage in his second term as PM (2001 to 2005). However, things are far worse now than they were in 2004. We have become a scruffy, unkempt people, so badly dressed. It is also noticeable how many people look anxious and stressed. Far too many people are glued to their smartphones all the time. I disagree with a smoking ban in pub gardens. Never smoked myself, but people should be able to have a cigarette outside. Many UK towns are no longer safe after dark now. That review of "Love Actually" was terrible ! Another thing that worries me is the indoctrination of children and young adults in schools and universities.

[@eversor10]

Ok boomer

[@rayblack2004]

I too become aware of the change in tone within towns after dark, its almost medieval

[@jaz093]

Why wear a skirt if they don't want anyone to see?

[@Dazza_Doo]

I agree, I would say that from the 40's to 60's Men used to dream about bettering everything. If you had a good man, he was responsible, if you had a bad man, your life was over. The only dream I see people have now is cut infront and get more money. The amount of scams and scammers have increased, the amount of close family units has decreased. Segmented families are weak from those who would take advantage. We no longer expect men to Look After or have Responsibilities to their families and their communities. Social Accountability was very high before. Now we have one asserting Rights, as it was explained by Dr Peterson in his University lectures online. Because of the emphasis on My Rights over Socail Responsibility we lost the Gate Keepers of the community ~ the good men of your local town. Who changed the narrative into what the new man should be? Politicans and Law enforcement. They didn't want Vigilantism to over rule them. Everything has come down to relying on the State (all Governments) to do anything. The laws are so complex now that if you render aid to someone in need, you can held Liable and Responsible for their outcome. The Government dissolved Men's Protective Nature and now they wander. The Woman they loved, will they accuse them off domestic violence so they can get a divorce? Their families are ripped apart and they are held in contempt of Court because they can't afford to pay the Courts. The safety net was the Family, many cultures around the world rely solely on Family Nets. In the West this is no longer the case, you might a large family, they are scattered. Who here has regular family meetings? Not that many I'm sure. Who's Granny and Grampy are looking after the kids while you work? Not many now. Just call the State. The Problem with Politicans and The Law is that it's Just Words, Words on Paper 📃 Bill's and Documents, there is no life in words, when we read we Imagine it because we are alive. Too many Rules, Too many Laws, Not Enough Values, Not Enough shared ideals, Never Enough Thankfulness. The bright spot on the Horizon, a hope, is to start working towards a future that Everyone can enjoy, as Carl tries to say, Harry Potter and The Shire ~ This is known as Solar Punk, a dream that I can make my own slice of The Shire, they don't expect Governments to do it for them. One suggestion was using glowing fungus for night lights, so you don't trip over in the dark. Think of a Self Sufficient Cottage, with Bees and Tress, Growing Vegetables , that kind of thing. In the End of it all, The Fisherperson will want Beef and Vegetables and the Farmers will want Fish, the Miners will want both. The Primary Industries are Primary, they aren't corporate Jobs. Transport Britten these Industries will airways be necessary. The Barter System is the best system with a Government. The political system in the courts no matter what country are trying to control the population in doing what they need to do according to the court and Laws, This is where Mon society has formed a part because the court system it's not alive, Doesn't have morals of values, It has a code that you are required, By force to uphold. Humans only live by negotiation with each other.

[@Dazza_Doo]

I'll add this. Everyone has a talent, we no longer know what they are. Have you noticed that people who have a natural talent and develop it and share it with others are happier? What has the thing that Government schools don't teach? ARTISANAL and CRAFTING skills, they are electives only and limited in class space. What are we offered instead? ALGEBRA and IMAGINARY NUMBERS. The Reason for this because ARTISANAL subjects are hard to Quantify. I think the Qualification of Society is where Governments shine, we get assigned Numbers and ID , basically humans are an Enitity in their Numbering and Wording System, like a factory would label an item on an assembly belt. This is why we have rampant capitalism, Consumerism, In the endless need for entertainment. It's an easy way for systems to quantify what a human is doing, They desire come down to the purchase history, What they might like on their next birthday and suggestions in their email box, This is whyKids absorb into their phones, It's an addiction, Phone screens keep you awake, They all have gambling like Qualities, Such is the sounds and in the lights. Imagine giving cocaine to babies, This is what technology has done at least modern technology has done. Turning kids and anyone that's addicted to these things into quantifiable objective statistics. How do you objectify or quantify someone's piece of art? You can't it's like nature it's uncontrollable what another person thinks of it. Governments don't like that. We only have to look at modern buildings to see what I mean, Old style buildings we're quite nice in appealing in a very aesthetic sense, Sure some buildings probably didn't make the grade a long time ago, But it standed now to make everything into a square and fit you into a box and call it a home😂 Enough said.

[@RichardEnglander]

Say "No!" to The Ultimate Nanny State Big Mother and Globohomo. The Three Slogans of The Uniparty: SPEECH IS VIOLENCE FREEDOM IS DANGER DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH

[@briansimerl4014]

It's sheer fascist slavemaking.

[@impudentdomain]

They used 1984 as an instruction manual

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

@@impudentdomain "George Orwell" aka Eric Blaire was a BBC worker during WW2. No surprise at all.

[@queefmicester1189]

Diversity or our strength Translation: Don't notice the millions of immigrants that have nothing in common with you and openly hate, and somehow overnight seem to have just suddenly appear all around you in your hometown and every town and city and in every country. (Also, who exactly is "our" referring to when they proclaim that slogan?)

[@dubiouscaesar3709]

The 90's was the last great decade.

[@doltBmB]

naw, the shift happened in 2014-2015, you had 1.5 decades of good stuff after

[@Planeet-Long]

No it wasn't, there was a ridiculous amount of misandry in the media.

[@badnewsjp]

Early 2000s were loads of fun

[@excelsium]

@@doltBmB Ahh yes that great time in 2008 with the global financial crisis when unemployment jumped to 10%+ and the financial rot has only gotten worse since then.

[@ScottFree-GB]

That's American propaganda. Crime in London was higher then than it is now despite it being before Mass Immigration, London was a genuine unsafe hell hole unlike now where it is people being over dramatic. That's why Blair won by a landslide because the Country was just awful in the 90s, it is actually similar to now. Blair's false optimism made 97-07 enjoyable but that's because the damage of his economic and social policies would actually surface until after he left as that was his plan all along. 93-95 in particular, London was not safe at all to even leave your house

[@JPnielsen]

I wonder what's changed in the UK so dramatically since 2000? Something to do with mass importation of the third world and a reIigion that is incompatible with Western values perhaps...

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Internet. Immigration. Oversized and self serving institutions.

[@abc33944]

How about the illegal invasions in other country’s …

[@JPnielsen]

@@abc33944 Oh like the "Arab conquests" of Europe, Asia and Africa? Yeah, that kind of colonialism is despicable. It started a horrible trend that others followed.

[@gareth645]

​@@abc33944how about the mass arabisation and islamification of the entire North African continent? Spain? Greece? The Balkans? India? Syria? Lebanon? Where have the 30000 churches across those nations gone? Where have the ancient languages and cultures of those nations gone? What ideology colonised those countries? Thankfully some forced them out. Goes both ways my friend, you need to read some history books. Oh yeah, and how about the North African slave trade? Also known as the barbary slave trade. Millions of Europeans inslaved from Iceland to Ireland to Britain to Spain, Italy, France, Greece and even Newfoundland. You didn't learn about that in history did you?

[@jogger949]

Smart phones

[@wellthen-t8k]

I miss my childhood of being able to go to gigs and walk back with my mates, miss going to the city to the cinema, miss listening to and enjoying music. Nothing feels good anymore.

[@unreadlibrarian]

afaik part of this is biological - you can't ever experience these things 'new' again. Try having kids maybe, get those news back vicariously.

[@secondchance6603]

Glasgow 1986 1:00am(ish). Walked half pissed through the centre of the city to Easterhouse, took an hour and a half and... nothing. Made it home unscathed.

[@marktyler3381]

Oh I was enculturated back then. I've been shut down for 40 years, but you are all finding out now. Gruaniad devotees can sneer,but the obvious truth is becoming hard to ism at

[@wellthen-t8k]

@@unreadlibrarian i have a child, and I'm sad she won't experience the same sort of safe I did. I think that's why everything feels quite sad these days.

[@unreadlibrarian]

@@wellthen-t8k That's a huge shame, and I empathise with that hey. I mourn my childhood circumstances too. I hope you're giving them siblings btw. Way less lonely once you've shuffled off.

[@Ryan-mq2mi]

9/11 as an American, it changed everything. Brought about a fear-based society, people stopped interacting with others, didn’t know their neighbors, kids didn’t go out,etc.

[@maxstrike3022]

At least it made America ( rightfully) fear and take caution with Muslims. It's likely why they haven't tried anything in America like they're doing in the UK.

[@watchmehope6560]

As an American I disagree so hard. In NYC we grew closer for those few weeks. Helping each other any way we could. Why do you think that scene from spiderman 1 exists? NY pride was a real thing back then....

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Exactly. There's a clear Before/After divide there.

[@Dragonshmm265]

I’m glad they stopped saying it was our generation’s Pearl Harbor. Quite a different arc for our country post Pearl Harbor compared to post 9/11. 23 years later and the negative effects are seen daily. On the plus side, living in MN, we’ve had issues with our totally amazing Islamic community that were unheard of when I was a teenager. Have kids, watch the collapse, and fight to build it back, without all of this nonsense, regardless of which Western nation you are in.

[@CrunchyNorbert]

Check out Academic Agents documentary on the post 9/11 world; apart from the attack itself nearly everything that flowed from it wad manufactured post hoc.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Earlier this year I went to my old university town, and it was shocking how empty the bars and clubs were. In the early 2000's we'd pack those places from about Thursday night onward. It was strange how that reality has completely vanished.

[@chrisripley154]

We worked hard so we could play hard. It's how genX and the first millennials were raised, but now we are being told that behavior is wrong.

Price of a pint is responsible for that

[@IamNotanumber-z3j]

Even soho london is empty in comparison to say 12 years ago

[@chrisripley154]

It comes in pints!? I'm 'avin one.

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

Drug culture ruined the nightclub culture...

[@briitash]

The early 2000's felt like a time of true innovation. Pocket sized mobile phones, mp3 digital music players, home pcs and Internet, concord jet planes. Everything since is just a rehashing the old. No wonder people have become despondent and lost faith in the future.

[@belstar1128]

yea in the year 2000 my life was good but very old school i didn't have the latest gadgets so i had no internet or cell phone in 2009 i had almost everything i do today

[@ElBromoHojo]

And online anonymity

[@danditto6145]

Because the white men of European ancestors that used to invent those things are blocked from getting into Universities to study engineering. It’s full of Chinese, Hispanics and Indians that show they are good at memorizing, but not at coming up with civilizations next big idea, except for Elon Musk.

[@MatthewOlney]

That's why Elon Musk is so important. He's the only one doing things we could only imagine in sci-fi movies.

[@cnfuzz]

Naah all the tech was innovated in the late 70s early 80s , small devices was just a progression , Apple never invented anything , just combined existing tech

[@hayleys-c3u]

We've failed to transmit to young people today how it was good a short time ago and how to make it that way again.

[@deerinheadlights100]

How? Send foreigners back? Stop greed, restore trust and safety amd a peaceful countryside not destroyed by housing developments? How restore decent education and reduce online screen time? Step one is restoring moral strength through getting back into the river of our history, culture, mores etc pre cultural subversion where we were made to sneer at our culture via the institutions. I guess reverse engineer it?

[@NoNowwwell]

Once 3-4 generations see the same life, it becomes cemented, as nobody is left to say "It used to be a lot better than this".

[@mattfm101]

You're replacing the old white men that they can look up to with foriegners.

[@benclark3457]

i like how youre ignoring the social rot thats been taknig over institutions and culture and making it about age bizarrely. okay. yes the generation that had a 'blissful youth' ahd too much of it in many cases. now we know. but the same happened in countries tha thave for example somethnig to keep young men in shape mentalyl and physically like national service. so what does this have to do with age, fro myur perspective

[@ElBromoHojo]

Speak for yourself in point it out to my kid daily and constantly tell her how things were when I was growing up

[@fredmercury1314]

5:00 *Hate to be **_that guy_** but Men Behaving Badly was deeply sexist against men.* The "men are dumb and only want sex" trope was strong throughout that show, while the women were strong, mature, responsible...

[@royfontaine5526]

True, actually. I never really did get into it.

[@cheesecakeisgross4645]

Tony Blaire's face is just dripping with evil.

[@DoYouHaveAnOpinion]

his time is short

[@ty194]

Oh 100%. I don't know how we didn't see it earlier.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

And he’s been talking about the necessity of Digital ID for the last 30 years. You at least have to admire his consistency.

[@cnfuzz]

Blair witch project warned you.

[@Insecthouse]

Every now and again he looks like the fella in the Aphex Twin video.

[@gottesurteil3201]

I had a proper childhood and I think God everyday for that. I only wish to promise the same to my children.

[@honieebean]

I moved so my son could experience a bit of it. Even here it's not the same though

[@norwegianblue2017]

Another 2003 movie that comes to mind is Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World. Other than Maverick, that was probably the last movie of its kind up to now. The primary values it promoted were bravery, duty, honor and pride of country. It showed historical white men in a good light without some kind of dark sub-plot. Even in 2003 it felt like a breath of fresh air after decades of anti-heroes. Still one of my favorite movies.

[@graytoby1]

Such an underrated gem of a film. It was up against LOTR two towers when it came out and got slightly lost in the wash. It's an utter epic film absoloute swashbuckling action storytelling

[@outlander234]

Cant believe someone mentioned Master and Commander... Also if you have Home Surround Sound system its gonna blow you away litterally. It got Oscar for sound I think. Best sound I ever heard, when the cannons start firing and hitting the ship... My god you gotta experience it.

[@norwegianblue2017]

@@outlander234 Got a Denon receiver with Dolby Atmos and Paradigm Studio surround speaker setup. Sounds amazing!

[@Jadty]

One of those movies that women will never understand.

[@mrlegkick91]

I loathe the "new man" with every fibre of my being.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Me too, and I'm a woman. But NOT a feminist.

[@pp-bb6jj]

They aren't men.

[@flamesintheattic]

That journalist criticising Love Actually is the equivalent of someone sh***ing in the cultural food supply while acting self-righteous about it.

[@jonrobinson4737]

I spat my beer out when she said early 2000s Britain was a UKIP ethnostate.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Happily, garbage-tier “journalists” like this were the first workers to be obsolesced by AI.

[@aldunlop4622]

Love Actually is actually talked about MORE now, than when it came out for some reason.

[@alsmith9853]

I've never seen the film except for a few bits on telly. Looks like god awful romantic shite to me😂

[@ElBromoHojo]

One day I noticed that nobody had said "metrosexual" for years, and immense gratitude welled up from within.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

The term “African-American” has been quietly retired, which you might think is a good thing, until you realize the problem was with the second half of the hyphenate.

[@abcdeabcde4877]

I literally don't even remember what that was supposed to mean.

[@ElBromoHojo]

@@abcdeabcde4877 it's for the best

[@Cuttuttlefish]

@@abcdeabcde4877 It's basically if you have "gay" habits but aren't gay, like dressing well in preppy clothes and talking soft high-pitched and cultured. The term fell out of favour since being gay is no longer seen as an insult you need to be differentiated from and people no longer think of sexuality in terms of such stereotypes. People don't worry about "acting gay" anymore to start with or feel they need to "clarify someone isn't gay just because they like to dress nicely" so the term is totally redundant now, probably for the best. It basically only existed because of homophobia that's pretty much it.

[@alexvesper7820]

It means a straight man who acts gay because it's trendy. The current slang for it is "White Dudes for Kamala."

[@Jbaquero98]

Liberalism, democracy, equality, was never meant to be taken this far.

[@sageywavey]

Yes it was.

[@NeilBarratt]

I was young in the 1970's. One of the decade's prime ministers (Jim Callaghan) said that if he were a younger man he'd emigrate. He summed the later part of the decade up.

[@ominousbiscuit]

This is why I'm so glad the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy got made when it did. Didn't have the technology to pull it off before the late 90s, don't have the society capable of making it good now.

[@ministryoftruth9916]

2000 I was 23, everything was good. The music, the films, games and the internet. Then 9/11 happened then everything turn to shit.

Nah Columbine in the US they started their authoritarian bs. And that was before 9/11.

[@anonniemouse8042]

Nowhere near as good as 70s, 80s and 90s.

[@ElBromoHojo]

9/11 proved how weak a nation we had become. Talk about overreacting

[@Sgt_Glory]

@@anonniemouse8042 The 80's followed by the 90's IMHO were the 2 best decades with the 2000's following at a far third. Just my personal assessment, but I was born in the early 80's so I may be looking back on that decade with rose-tinted glasses.

@ElBromoHojo Yeah I was arguing against reacting like that then. We lost more to hunger than to that attack...but it was a great excuse for funneling money from the people in the end.

[@amandajean7738]

I miss the early 2000s. Even though, I was only a child and cannot remember most things during that time but things seemed less stressful and tense. I went to a club seven years ago. It was boring. No one was dancing, the music was terrible and everyone had their smartphones out. That was the last time I went clubbing.

[@robwatson3027]

The Sixties were the peak for the working class, but the rot set in during that decade as well. Labour removed Full Employment from the manifesto in 1968, "managed decline" became a thing and by 1976 you've got Punk Rock and God Save The Queen by The Sex Pistols.

[@Ricky-oi3wv]

Our culture went through a tangible process of degeneration. All western countries experienced this after world war 2, if you look.

[@SeanT-l6p]

​@@Ricky-oi3wvoy vey

[@jsg9575]

I was at my copro job as a software engineer listening to this live thinking I really really REAAALLY miss the Love Actually Britain. I was just old enough to get a glimpse of it and experience it in my youth. I know it existed, I know how good it was, and it's something we can return to.

[@wingsting9792]

I've never watched Love Actually, but even just by that sentence I know exactly what you're talking about

[@Madonnalitta1]

We can't. Too many hearts and minds have been poisoned.

[@danielsankey8786]

It all went to shit when a freddo cost more than 10p

[@neilsmith3768]

£1.75 at Alton Towers

[@adventussaxonum448]

It all went to shit when we started using p instead of d. 😅 Not quite true...the rock music was awesome in the 70s.

[@WhatNRdidnext]

Or in the times before Freddo, when Kinder Eggs cost less than 50p.

[@badnewsjp]

Everyday through high school my lunch was a mars bar for 30p from an ice cream van that parked in the school yard😂

[@Tentin.Quarantino]

Everyone reminisces about Freddos when the taz bar was far superior.

[@chopsandarchie7015]

What? "Men Behaving Badly" was PC. The two central characters were always being shown the error of their ways by the better women who ran rings around them.

[@vlnow]

Yes, idiot boys, stong smart girls. Common theme in a lot of entertainment, kids shows and books back then.

[@peterk2455]

Exactly. They were the butt of the running theme. The foolish stooges to the more intelligent, capable and so progressive younger, feminist and multikulti set. It was cringy AF. It was a weekly dose of 'self-criticism' aimed at white middle class males

[@fredmercury1314]

13:30 I live in what was a quiet, small town, a decade ago when I moved here, of almost exclusively English people. They built thousands of houses, all over the surrounding arable land, and now the town is flooded with immigrants, and crime is way up. Last week a guy I know was attacked _outside a large Tesco_ by three men, one of whom had a machete and another had a knife. Fortunately for him he's a biker, and he had all his gear on, and he can handle himself. He fought them off and, eventually, I guess they panicked because they all ran away. This sort of things is _unheard of_ around here.

[@SpookyEng1]

And you wonder why Americans refuse to disarm…

[@Whateverguy8114]

The song ''The Kids Aren't Alright'' plays rent-free in my head nowdays.

[@KevinOLeathlobair-u6t]

Hate to tell you.. if you speak of Offspring.. the lead is a raving leftist.

[@wellthen-t8k]

They should alter the lyrics to "why don't you get a job" to "why can't you get a job".

[@Adam-sd2ow]

Comfortably Numb is my song of choice..

[@hrtdinasaurette3020]

Every time I see a politician the lyric “Won’t get fooled again” swims ‘round me head. 😏

[@captainphoenix]

Lyrics to "Pay the Man" couldn't be more accurate

[@henrikg1388]

And now we're watching podcast like this, reflecting on those days.

[@PaulTinsley]

I am so glad I managed to get most of my career done in the past. I am autistic, so my extremely focused mind and obsessive skills gave me endless exciting things to work on. Nowadays, there is no use for my abilities, because I criticise irrational thinking, and those critical thinking skills are simply not wanted any more.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Ikr, critical thinking is anathema now. We're all supposed to affirm everyone's delusions, not seek the truth. Critical thinking is the opposite of Critical Social Justice.

[@skazala]

Could you tell what was your career cuz i am as autistic have stuck in finding my way

[@PaulTinsley]

Do what you enjoy or find obsessively compelling. I have worked in many industries. My favourite role was as a lead enterprise data architect and software engineer for an offshore private bank.

[@agodelianshock9422]

Essentially the previous generation raided the coffers of our generation and left it empty. We stand to inherit a declining world. All manufacturing and jobs are gone, trade deficits are huge, corporations have decimated small business and made work life unstable and unrewarding, zoning laws and regulations coupled with mass migration has rendered housing unachievable, and the wild west of the web and our escapist media is coming to a censorious end day by day. The country I knew just 20 years ago is gone.

[@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n]

Really hit the nail on the head there- the party's over, the people who got here before us enjoyed it all and left us the cleanup.

[@wingsting9792]

Blame the politicians and out of control unions. Unions in themselves aren't bad, but they got way too big for their boots and ruined everything. I.e. The manufacturing industry became unsustainable.

[@meredethenglish1577]

I hear ya from the USA 🇺🇸 (I am assuming you are British). Me, my hubby, and our generation gets told by people like my parents: "Well you are just upset that is hard!" And I am like, "You are actively referencing as your experience in your Small Town USA 40yrs ago!" I don't care if you put me down and call me weak, it's NOT the same thing! Oh, and BTW, my parents, every Sunday, put $$$ in the collection plate of a Roman Catholic Church, that they openly admit, is undermining our country's values 🥴😵 But in response, they are like, "Well that is the church we grew up in and we are not going to leave" 😵‍💫🤯

[@therealunclevanya]

My generation had no more control over our destiny than you do. Stop blaming your elders, our political class are the villains, then, just as they are now.

[@tinfoil-homer]

Bingo

[@bataviawillem1]

I was recently in East Europe and there is still optimism there people are looking forward to what's next.

[@HaleyChain-vw8rr]

From Putin or Trump ?

[@abcdeabcde4877]

The far part of Eastern Europe? Maybe. Don't know, never been there. The EU-occupied Eastern Europe? There isn't any optimism. There's a crushing sense of doom, disbelief and shock over what's been done to us. There's deep fear of what's coming. It's like we sleepwalked off a cliff and woke up already in freefall.

[@hazzmati]

Dunno what you're on about mate but eastern Europe's future is looking very gloomy. With birth rates lower than ever and young people moving west for work or education I fear there won't be much left of these countries in a few decades.

[@simulation5627]

@@HaleyChain-vw8rr From local governments

[@Skumtomten1]

I don't know man, I don't live in the eastern europe but I work with people from there and they all seem pretty miserable tbh.

[@dannymullins4356]

You couldn't go five seconds in the late 90s without hearing the names Stephen Lawrence and Princess Diana. it got a bit much.

[@fl1bble]

I don't thtink women and young girls really care which politician is female or not...I think they're too busy looking over their shoulders because of certain 'guests' in our country.

[@SeanT-l6p]

They voted for it, I feel nothing for it

[@theliato3809]

The end of the 2000 consensus occurred with the 2008 crash. It jsut took us a long while to realize it

[@adogmcdizzle]

Economically it does seem like Britain never recovered. The US on paper seems to have done well, although I think there is a strong bias of growth toward NY/LA/TX etc. There just doesn't seem to be the political will to change anything.

[@theliato3809]

@@adogmcdizzle The stock market recovered. The economy of the nation merely platuead to a not crashing level. Then the beer bug happened.

[@Chris-v6b1n]

​@@theliato3809 The stock market is fake. It only 'recovered' due to rampant money printing. We'll pay the price, ultimately.

[@sybentley6675]

"we used to think you could spend your way out of a recession and increase employment by cutting taxes and boosting government spending. I tell you in all candor that option no longer exists" Labour leader James Calaghan 1976. They have always known. The money printing steals value from our productivity and gets aggregated to the city.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

We’ve known since the 50s.

[@ElBromoHojo]

It's been known for over a thousand years

[@sillypuppy5940]

Great speech, but the lefties didn't want to hear it

[@CrunchyNorbert]

As an Austrian economist I know recessions aren't actually the bad thing; the artificial boom fuelled by money printing and asset speculation is where the rot starts. Economies recover better and make everyone better off if bad businesses fail to make room for better ideas to be tried.

[@mechminded2207]

I visited a company this week, highly capable and competent employee, having been with the company 30+ years when off topic would speak about his fears and upset about the UK, how we led the world with industry, production, high engineering - but now we are on a fast decline. I feel the same, and he had 20 years on me.

[@arisaga822]

God, I miss the old days.

[@EliteRock]

Starmer is certainly the quintessential "progressive" or "new" man. A better term would be 'hollow man' (coined many years ago).

[@martinm3474]

The idealism based on Global Warming views there is no Forward only to set limits for returning to the past. Not to invent Better, just to limit people's liberty and freedom.

[@gabrielclark1425]

As it _always_ boils down to, some people just want slaves.

[@moon-and-star]

Love Actually and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[@properjob2311]

This country is now a shit hole - i hate it. I want to go back to the 90's I was so more happy then.

[@GaryGeezer-l2s]

For me, 2011 was the year where everything became noticeably different in a negative way: its when smart phones had started to become a majority streaming replacing physical as the tech reached that point, cultural enrichment was seeping in more (nationwide riots and 2011 census data), but we still were in denial. I feel like 2010 was the last reasonable decent year.

[@МаксимЛяшко-и3ъ]

2014-2015 were last of the relatively “normal” years for me.

[@troublesometruck8303]

I’d argue the early 2000s didn’t end until 2013 and the 2010s ended in 2019

[@GaryGeezer-l2s]

@@troublesometruck8303 the very early 2000s, up to 2001 were 90s, so that leaves 2002-2003 which were nothing like 2013. 2011-2019 felt the same the entire way through so I'll give you that.

[@troublesometruck8303]

@@GaryGeezer-l2s thinking about it again… the 90s ended in 2001 (agreed). The early 2000s ended in 2008 (GFC), and the 2010s runs up until 2022 (ZIRP era). Also agree culture stopped during the 2010s

[@HeatherGreenjsyk]

That was also the year following deaths of elders in the family, with my great-grandma being the most devastating loss as she helped raise me. I was about to be in my last year of high school and that was when smartphones began to come into the mainstream. Many of my classmates had good heads over their shoulders even if they could be rambunctious. I don't know about the Gen Z enough except through my half sister. I'm a younger Millennial.

[@David-xy5sd]

Hello from across the pond lol, usa South Carolina. Keep doing gods work👍

[@70AD-user45]

The UK is an ungodly country now. It's finished. The looney liberals have taken over the asylum whilst wondering what gender they want to turn into. The US still has hope with President Trump. TRUMP 2024 🇺🇸 🇬🇧

[@70AD-user45]

The UK is an ungodly country now. It's finished. The looney liberals have taken over the asylum whilst wondering what gender they want to turn into. The US still has hope with President Trump. TRUMP 2024 🇺🇸 🇬🇧

[@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb]

Get out and vote!

[@fujohnson8667]

I’m 32 and glad I’m not young again seeing the BS younger people are fed in school/social media etc etc. living on the internet.

[@ballshippin3809]

Same age here. It was bad enough when we left school in 2008. Can't imagine what it's like now

[@fujohnson8667]

@@ballshippin3809exactly. Thinking back to history GCSE in my secondary school we did the American Slavery (white people evil) - any other kind was not mentioned , Nazis - Nationalism being bad was the main theme not the racial aspect of the Holocaust , The Wall Street Crash ( & the aftermath (capitalism bad) - FDR new deal (state intervention) was hailed - it was a Left wing package

[@aldunlop4622]

Constant propaganda.

[@fujohnson8667]

@@aldunlop4622yep maybe it’s rose tinted glasses but I feel back then I could escape it by ignoring it now it’s all consuming.

[@outlander234]

37 here and yeah internet was so much bettwr place when it was decentralized and before smartphones. We arent supposed to be connected 24/7.

[@willwalker6894]

I think the last movie in English society that portrayed that was the World’s End with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. Rewatch that movie it came out in 2013 and is almost like watching a time capsule of where it all went down hill.

[@bluecoin3771]

Oddly enough, it was a tale of true blue Englishmen fighting back against an alien invasion that wanted to assimilate everything into a bland, sterile mess.

[@WreckItRolfe]

And having an all English cast wasn't PC then either

[@dougmann777]

I recently watched the interviews on my Lord of the Rings box set from c 2005. How refreshing: the two actresses mentioned gender differences a bit, but didn't grouse; no one said a word about race or sexuality. It was like a window back to a time before obsessive identity politics took over entertainment media. Now my inbox is stuffed with DEI demands and the American media are buttressing one of the worst candidates for major office I've ever seen. I really liked this sort of quick look back at recent history in both economic and cultural terms, to see what the most influential TV shows were in the UK that passed me by in Canada (though I do have The Peep Show). I remember those days as a time when I could ignore politics for weeks at a time since they didn't affect my daily life much.

[@bufallowolfbear]

Well put.

[@RyanYouTubs93]

Me and my wife (who is foreign) just watched all of the Inbetweeners and the two movies. She’d never seen it before and she was cracking up laughing. 😂

[@Adam-sd2ow]

The second movie isn't the best but the camp fire rant by Will is on point about where many young people are at now

[@CaseyKaufman-fu6ic]

The only thing that can make feminists likable is if they stop talking forever.

[@thuglifebear5256]

When you realize how much was destroyed by them, not even that.

[@oraz.]

Except the entire right is basically a brand of JK Rowling feminism now.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

*And stop writing.

[@CrunchyNorbert]

They all need Jesus

[@Cardulionax]

Nah nothing can make feminists likeable.

[@jane---489]

*_It's up to us to keep "The old ways" Alive, don't expect or rely on anyone else to ..._*

[@ekscalybur]

Government says they are going to raise taxes. In unrelated news: UKs Millionaires are leaving the country in record numbers. Invest capital, the thing that drives economic growth, is fleeing.

[@slickmechanical]

It's like Requiem For a Dream on a national scale

[@gwills9337]

My thoughts exactly

[@danielsankey8786]

Cheers now I'm sad from remembering

[@LyndonDykes64]

Great segment. Enjoyed it.

[@LondonMaori]

Game On was better than men behaving badly

[@cosmos237]

Agreed.

[@SuperTJK1992]

Whenever I think of the "New Man" the first person that comes to mind is Owen Jones.

[@thereluctantgearhead4544]

Gay man more like it

[@StarsManny]

James O'Brian

[@darrenscrowston9386]

For me it’s Richard Madeley.

[@VinnyMartello]

I remember the 90’s coming to a close. And I remember that around 2005 my 13 year old mild came to the conclusion that “the good times are over”. I felt extra depressed in 2010 because now we are a 2nd decade removed from the 90’s. Now I just live in quiet resignation, knowing that the past is getting further and further away.

[@thetruth45678]

I was there as well. 21 in 2000. The melancholy of loss and the longing for what was never really goes away. However, we can take solace in the axiom that time is a spiraling, spinning pendulum. It comes back around. Hope springs anew, the circle of life turns, and there's nothing new under the sun.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

I'm around the same age as you, but for me it was 2007. I dunno why. Everything felt shit after that. 2010 was even shiitier and I remember this South Park episode aired around that year called "You're getting old". Basically confirmed what I felt. I can't even relate to these young kids who say 2016 - 2017 was amazing.

[@gipgap4]

My 13 year old mind came to the conclusion that the good times are over - Are you Karl Pilkington? 😂

[@VinnyMartello]

@@gipgap4 Forgive me I am uncultured swine. Who is Karl Pilkington?

[@gipgap4]

@ he’s from the Ricky Gervais show which you can find episodes of on KZbin. It’s basically Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant asking Karl questions and he answers them in his own funny way. He also talks about when he turned 13 years old and your original comment reminded me of his reply.

[@Pithead]

Which girls? The five year old girls being taught by the pink-haired teacher with the nose rings.

[@quigglebert]

Weak men, hard times, the hard times have been here for a while and I'm salty I didn't have the option to be weak, the hard times are all I have known since becoming a man The good times were stolen from us and the people who stole it will likely never suffer

[@IcedCub]

Boohoo. "Bad times, hard times, this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times" - St Augustine

[@thereluctantgearhead4544]

Who stole them?

[@benclark3457]

who stole it

[@DogratDavis]

Just say J- [Comment Removed]

[@nuclearsynapse5319]

@@IcedCub This is true, and it is wise not to wallow in pity for the circumstances we find ourselves in. However it is also imprudent to fail to acknowledge that (at least for the youth ascending to adulthood) the times we live in are the product of those who came before, and that in our case our job has been made considerably harder. The best thing to do is learn from the mistakes of our ancestors, and do our best not to repeat them. This includes teaching our descendants not to languish in whatever comforts we may manage to build for them, but to continue to live well and with purpose.

[@androidoficeandfire9667]

As a pure bread 00s kid (born in 2000) whenever I hear anyone suggest something from it is actually seriously offensive I groan more so than usually whenever something is “reevaluated” as “offensive” not only because of bias (growing up around if not with a lot of it) but by the 2000s the liberal precepts had already become entrenched you wouldn’t find something made in the 2000s that was maliciously racist at worst a poor taste joke that most would see why it was there

[@mattfm101]

We were knee deep in cultural subversion by the 2000

[@richardj9016]

Please use some punctuation ffs

[@Ubu987]

@@richardj9016 Punctuation is white supremacist, bigot!

[@immaculateandstoned]

Youre a 2010s kid

[@christopherkelley1664]

I'm 15 years older than you and have no idea what you're saying. Your writing style is gay and brown.

[@hammerhiem75]

I find it funny that they think that all the upgrades that are availible to the private companies are automatically availible to the civil Service. Pro Tip: Most government departments are still using technology from 10+ years ago. But the real issue is that all innovation has to be approved by senior management, not because it's necessary but because teh credit and plaudits MUST go to the Senior managers. Which means when someone on the coalface points out a simple change that would improve productivity, it has to go up through 2 levels of junior management and 3 layers of middle management before anyone has the authority to make a change, not because it's necessary but so that said manager can accumilate more kudos and hold on to power.

[@thereluctantgearhead4544]

They are looking for those who know.....

[@bloodrunsclear]

I’ve gone from ‘I wonder what the future holds’ to ‘make it stop…’

[@reggie18b]

I don''t agree that the early 2000's were 'optimistic'. It was just complacency.

[@belstar1128]

they were quite negative but for minor reasons

[@DeflatingAtheism]

I feel the “manchild” culture of the era rewarded a lack of ambition, resulting in men with an individualist streak never assuming roles in cultural and political institutions.

[@pperrinuk]

Today I heard (for the first time) the name 'Guppies' -- the young who have given up (mainly on owning a home I think).... What a contrast to the 'Yuppies' of the '80s etc...

[@anttipihlgren3133]

Make british comedy great again! Cheers from Finland.

[@honieebean]

We can't even put up decorations for Halloween without them being stolen now. Or enjoy media without a lecture. I'm super nostalgic lately

[@raven-sf3di]

Stop being nostalgic and start loving your life like you have no limits , bring back the spirit of the 90s

[@SeanT-l6p]

Lol well y'all imported thieves so enjoy!

[@M-S_4321]

After apathy comes... well, something. Possibly resentment, rebellion or on a global scale wading through disaster

[@jeperstone]

A memory from this 'New Man' period sticks with me. I remember Robert Llewellyn (the actor who played 'Kryten' in 'Red Dwarf') saying that he was a 'reconstructed man' and that he found it difficult at first but then embraced it. He was emasculated yet he saw it as progressive and that he had evolved. His story sums up, for me, the modern British male

[@retrophil8241]

I was born in 82 so I grew up in the 90's and partied in the early 2000's. Every weekend went to a different club and everyone was local, everyone knew someone. If I wasn't out at a club I was cruising around in the car picking up random girls and dropping them home. Girls waving in young lads for a lift home was perfectly normal behaviour and it was perfectly safe because again everyone knew everyone. I think in the late 90's and 2000's people were a lot more sociable because we didn't have social media phones in our pockets so people had better real conversation skills.

[@fjtpersian6566]

I remember those days it was a golden period .If you go to a club or a bar everybody are on their phone .

[@reaperofthegrey7294]

patriotic americans and patriotic english need to come together and take back what we have lost. our cultures are intertwined. brotherly. and if they were to collapse will be the greatest tragedy in history

[@jimluebke3869]

"We're going to raise taxes to avoid austerity" If you raise taxes, households will have to be austere. You don't avoid "austerity" either way. If I have to choose austerity for my household or austerity from government, f*ck your government spending, I say.

[@NJBeltCimmerian89]

The 2005 Ashes series when England beat Australia. Pure magic.

[@Happyheretic2308]

I LOATHE love actually. Damned pap.

[@MikeSmith-go8wk]

Honestly the demographics have killed the Nightlife. Things have become duller and more rapey

[@Joanna7428]

I can remember circa 2003, i was ...29, on my way back from a night out, id ended up alone and not getting a taxi so walked the way home. I was a bit guarded and looking out for the drunken nutter, but otherwise felt confident in getting back. I suppose it was daft doing that but i did and i was fine. Fast forward to now, who knows what is out on the streets and i feel much less safe as a woman especially and im not even talking about walking home clutching my shoes at 1 in the morning. I do understand we have always had the occasional nutjob, eg peter sutcliffe, but do the maths and its or should I say was...a very rare statistic. Now we have men amongst us who live in a different culture mentally, we are much more at risk than ever and thanks to failures of governments that have let this happen. Much more vigilant these days, we literally do not know the person around the corner.

[@christopherroberts2500]

Yeah, doing that in 2024 you'd have to be suicidal - as a woman. A few years back I did the same from Manchester city centre (I'm a fairly large, in shape man.) I still remembered an Indian taxi driver trying to offer me a 'free taxi home,' properly dodgy!

[@TheBcoolGuy]

it's not by accident.

[@Madonnalitta1]

Lucky you, don't be that stupid again. Yes, I know you shouldn't have to think like that. But it's reality.

[@GTH321]

Truly miss the 90’s

[@jules2545]

In a word, Blair.

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

He wasn’t who did it he was the one doing it here for those behind it

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

Thatcher

[@jules2545]

@@RossKempOnYourMum01Of course it was.

[@incurableromantic4006]

I wish I had known back in the 90s that I was living through a relative golden age: and things were going to get worse and worse for the rest of my life.

[@mickdomingo7276]

Men behaving Badly were boomers. I'm an early gen xer and they were significantly older than me

[@colinr0380]

@9:00 That's why Danny Boyle had to wipe any memory of Oasis from the face of the Earth in that execreable "Yesterday" fillm that the BBC insists on showing every couple of months in tandem with the 2016 Ghostbusters film.

[@TheNightBadger]

Late 90's earl 00's was great, but unlike Carl and Dan I thought the future was bleak. I could see all Labour's policies were short-termist and were creating a false sense of well being. I kept saying - even at the time - that we'd be paying a price for all of this, but nobody seemed to care. I've just watched as one chicken after the other came home to roost. It seemed that despite what I was told by all the people who couldn't see any issues, 2+2 really did equal 4.

[@mattanderson6672]

Excellent analysis Thank you Sir Interesting... very interesting Wonderful discussion Thank you Gentlemen Brilliant discussion Thanks Lotus Eaters

[@phyllischaffin4052]

I'm 56 and an American.Life before the internet became big was better. We actually talked to each other. There was hope. For awhile after 9/11, we all really united and then, life started going downhill. Victor Davis Hanson said, "This all started with Obama." I agree.

[@DannyOConnor1991]

Excellent video.

[@mikegleed5842]

Lucy Pinder! 😝

[@Booma4142]

The public sector, government, hasn't gotten any more productive because there is no incentive for government to do more with less. The incentive is simply to grow in size while nothing but the budget increases.

[@SomeCanine]

It's hard to estimate the damage that AI and the internet will do on the future of our society. AI is already replacing many thousands of jobs all over society and it's just getting started.

[@Madonnalitta1]

Not to mention how it's changing us as humans. We're meant to live in the real world.

[@sb8163]

re. Blur and Oasis - Blur are more ethnically English than Oasis as all the members of Oasis had Irish parents. Curiously, some surnames of people recently arrested are Irish eg. Lynch, Connolly, Lennon (Tommy Robinson)

[@ch3nz3n]

Once those new taxes go into effect, they'll never go away. Regardless of which gov't is in power. Crazy!

[@jobe5514]

Plymouth used to have students lining up outside multiple clubs, pubs and bars... now it's barely a trickle and our city centre is a shambles. Great times.

[@serrodderick]

I like how they're called new men like fabius bile put them together in a laboratory.

[@Jupiter__001_]

Reminds me of the New Soviet Man - "Homo Sovieticus".

[@alfredocornelio4329]

Sorry but the clubbing dying down is good. It actually ties in with lots of what the redpill manosphere has been talking about and calling out. Lads have noticed that platic bleep bloop music and yelling at robotic people trying to get into some tart's pants by wasting money on watered down marked up drinks is a waste, at least, for most guys. Also bottle service is another thing that ruined night scene etc. Also pubs>nightclubs.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

The American story is very similar to the British story.

[@exvan3571]

British aren't in charge of Britain due to poor past decision making. Same scenario for the ol' USA

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

@@exvan3571 Yeah, allowing small hats to have undue influence and allowing a central bank.

[@mrlegkick91]

Great segment boys. It really resonated with me