The 2005 Yankees Experiment Nearly Broke Baseball

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The 2022 Phillies conducted an experiment to see if they could win a world series at the detriment of their defense. That experiment nearly worked, but they were far from the first team to try. Today we will be talking about a more extreme version of the 2022 Phillies: the 2005 Yankees.
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[@Gweb52]

Those Yankees Red Sox games during this period were INSANE ! Long , tense , full of storylines . I miss the rivalry being like that

[@tyeikenberg8938]

I'm a die hard orioles fan and my best friend is a die hard Yankee fan. His joke is... "how do you know it's April? The orioles are in 1st place. How do you know it's September? The Yankees are in 1st place."

[@astrominister]

How do you know it’s October? The Astros are popping champagne in the clubhouse of Yankee stadium

[@maxdubs222]

@@astrominister of course the Astros fan inserts themselves lol. Won your first legitimate title and y’all act like houston won 27 rings. The most classless fanbase in baseball

[@TheBatugan77]

@@astrominister If the Astros were in the AL East, they'd be a .500 team. If you were in NYC you'd be bent over a fire hydrant, taking 'base hits up your alley ' all day. Loser. LooHOOhooHOOhooHOOSER!

[@SimonFoster23111971]

@@maxdubs222 At least they didn't have to buy entire rosters ...

[@wilcee238]

@Max Dubs22 how many steroid users have the Yankees had again?

[@davidmccright3764]

I miss these days. Giambi is my all time favorite player. Got to see him hit a homer in person during his last season in pinstripes and the last season in the House that Ruth Built in 2008. Moments like that make you a baseball fan for life.

[@seanwiederholt7554]

A hardcore steroid user is your favorite. Using that name and Ruth's in the same statement is hilarious.

[@drewm5898]

I felt the same with A-Rod when I was a kid. I got to see the Yanks vs Angels at the old Yankees Stadium, on “Old-Timers Day”. During the game, A-Rod tanked one to left center and I was ecstatic. I was a kid in the nosebleeds, got a beer spilled on me and everything, but I’ll never forget that homer.

[@Sean-mi4dh]

Lol when you compare Giambi to Ruth that’s just sad

[@davidmccright3764]

@@Sean-mi4dh never compared him to Ruth, it’s just a nickname for old Yankee Stadium dude lol

[@Sean-mi4dh]

Ok ok sorry

[@hmhm856]

Yankees got the YES Network starting in the 2002 season, so Steinbreiner wanted to sign stars, trade for stars, have all the press, all the ratings. And then even more once they got the new stadium starting in 2009 From 2002-2009, Yankees spending habits were sensational to say the least

[@justingerald]

I remember this team. Always hitting homers and dropping the ball.

[@jeff8117]

Not a great defensive team by any stretch but they were pretty sure handed. Their .984 fielding % was above the league average and they were second in the league in hits and OBP, which showed their offense was pretty rounded. Like the numbers suggest, their defenders had limited range which certainly contributed to their losses but their pitching during the ALDS was not good. The defense allowed one unearned run in those five games, hardly a shitshow.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

This Yankees team actually started the season 11-19 They kinda picked it back up, but by August 10th fell to 60-52 and questions on if they could make the postseason were a real concern. They then surged to a 35-15 finish over their last 50 but of course got bounced by Anaheim

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Similar how the Yankees were in 2022 they hit homers in the first half but drop the ball

[@jeff8117]

@Bread And Circuses I can't argue with that. Still, a pitching staff that won 95 games, led the league in shutouts and featured three HOFers, can't be entirely discounted.

[@platinumpengwinmusic5564]

Until 2009, when they won the World Series.

[@TheLockdownKidNYC]

I feel like those 2005-2008 Yanks have the same story. The team really was missing pieces every season. Somebody seemed to come up short.

[@Yoy28]

They were more a collection of talent as opposed to a "team"

[@TheLockdownKidNYC]

@@Yoy28 Well worded. I mean, none of the teams were bad. Even the 2008 Yankees missing the playoffs was more circumstantial. Each of those teams was loaded with All Stars. Pitching was probably the biggest issue. Nobody was an anchor and Moose just was a step below what they needed.

[@antonioreconquistador]

Thats baseball- every year, all 29 other teams will have pieces that prevent them from going forward- and even the best one will probably have a hard time fixing their own in some way. The yankees' circumstances since the beginning of the century have had a ton of teams with big problems.

[@TheLockdownKidNYC]

@@antonioreconquistador It's why you gotta love 2009. They went out and plugged the holes. Everybody had moments. No major injuries and by the time the playoffs rolled around, everyone was healthy and everyone showed up. Oh and the 2013 Red Sox. That was a complete team. Amazing offense. Solid starters. Excellent closer. All Stars galore. What a great team.

[@Yoy28]

@@TheLockdownKidNYC Yes they were certainly powerful teams that feasted on lesser competition in the regular season. However in the playoffs, they didn't have that championship DNA that the late 90's teams had. The late 90's dynasty learned how to win early on and carried that through the rest of the decade. The mid 2000s teams didnt have the guts and grit to win big games, simply put because a lot of those guys didn't know how to win in October.

[@AndThatsBaseball]

I had this idea on my original list before I made my first video, you def executed it better than I would’ve then 😂

[@_will795]

Found your channel with that last video you made. You do good work man, keep it up

[@SportStorm23]

I guess I owe you a video idea

[@AndThatsBaseball]

@@SportStorm23 You've done enough for me already

[@OnlyFacts662]

No you didn’t.

[@AndThatsBaseball]

@@OnlyFacts662 Shut up, dork

[@TheTEN24]

There seems to be a lot of parallel between a lot of what Steinbrenner did and what Cohen is doing now lol.

[@henrycalde1991]

The difference with the Mets being that they are a better defensive team. Nothing worse than committing a critical defensive error when the season is on the line

[@Goo762]

@@henrycalde1991 you forgot the lack of firepower. Steinbrenners Yankees had all stars in 1-9 just look at that 05 lineup Jesus.

[@thomash.l.9382]

I was the bullpen catcher for the Newark Bears in '09 maybe '08. Keith Faulk was the closer. He said after that game 7 in 2004, almost every player was in tears. Every time he told the story the whole locker room was dead quiet.

[@greatestnitemare6626]

Bum ass Foulke. Glad he was a scrub in 05

[@TruStoogeDrew.]

Bernie deserves being mentioned with the core 4. He was honestly the best player of the bunch for a lot of those 90s chips

[@paulg6274]

Was he home grown though? I think thats the reason those 4 are singles out. Bernie was def one of their best players though. BorderliNE hOF prolly

[@iamhungey12345]

@@paulg6274 Why else do you think people felt Bernie should be mentioned alongside "Core 4"? Asking if he was home grown is no different than asking if Jeter was as such.

[@paulg6274]

@@iamhungey12345 right, its not a disqualifier but its just something that linked these 4 players specifically. Bernie career WAR is close to HOF credentials if i recall correctly

[@iamhungey12345]

@@paulg6274 Yeah the guy's homegrown, it's bs to think that's what makes the "Core 4" what they are while excluding Bernie. Unfortunately there are retards who thinks core 4 have to be drafted when it wasn't the case as Mo was an amateur free agent. Only real difference was that the "Core 4" where there for the 2009 title which is where it all came from. Bernie was part of the rebuilding era that helped laid the groundwork that paved way for guys like Jeter, Mo, Pettitte and Posada. Not to mention Posada was barely more than a cup of coffee player in 1996 which is why there are people who weren't sure if Posada got one for that season.

[@paulg6274]

@@iamhungey12345 ya im not using that as a qualifier, just thought maybe that was the reason. Bernie had a better career than Petitte or Posada imo.

[@waynetables6414]

the 04' Red Sox didn't actually win a championship with a defense that bad, most of those numbers get accumulated from the first half of the season.. they knew they couldn't win a title with that kind of defense and traded Nomar at the trade deadline and acquired three gold glove level defenders at 1st base, SS, and OF. That was the thing that turned their season around.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Jaret Wright was also the reason Pedro Martinez didn't become an Indian. Before the 98 season, Cleveland and Montreal were in talks to do a trade of Pedro for Wright and Bartolo Colon. But Cleveland got cold feet after Wright had an excellent 97 postseason (including a strong game 7 start on the world series).

[@JB511391]

Loved these teams so much. Grew up with them

[@pranavarora9976]

Those mid 00s Yankees used to be so stacked, veteran potential HOF hitters all across the lineup and sometimes the bench too.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@Bread And Circuses yeah fielding and pitching tend to matter more for actual championships. The bombers just occasionally win the regular season (and usually not even that if the fielding and pitching fail too much)

[@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507]

@Bread And Circuses it wasn't tbh they had Hof pitchers that just had career bad years for one reason or another...randy Johnson, Kevin brown, javy Vasquez was an ASG starter etc

[@JWD1992]

Just like most other Yankees teams post-2001, they padded their stats against bad pitching during the regular season and then the bats went cold against playoff-caliber pitchers. The late 90s dynasty scored big but was also super clutch.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

How do you know this please? How do you know about this? What is clutch?

[@JWD1992]

@@TiagoGomez-hb9te As a Yankees fan who had to endure the 2004 ALCS and then the following 20 seasons, save for the one damn time it worked in 2009 (which, admittedly, is nothing to sneeze at).

[@Trillyana]

That's Aaron "10-0" Small, to you

[@RichardTetta]

Great video, I remember these declining years after those great late 90s teams so well. It also shows, that for most of the 21st century, the Yankees have consistently played poor defense in clutch situations in the post-season. 2009 being the outlier, of course, at least as far as RESULTS go.

[@veritasinvicta8128]

After Andy left in 2003 (and Clemons) the Yankees were short staffed with Mussina taking the ace role before Wang took it over and both were great 2-3 pitchers but the Yankees, despite Andy coming back (three years older and approaching the end) the Yankees didn't gain a true ace again until CC Sabathia in 2009. Burnett helped as well, famously forming that three man rotation with Andy for the championship. Pettitte and Cone were the foundation for the Dynasty.

[@smartmagis]

12:55 Let's just marvel at Mariano's insane 308 ERA+

[@juanavb33]

I think I subconsciously repressed the memory of Bubba and Sheff crashing into one another until this moment. Those 2005-2008 early playoff exits were incredibly frustrating, but I think that one takes the cake as the MOST infuriating of them all. Truly emblematic of that era.

[@timetowakeup6302]

It might have been a good idea for the Yankees to take the greatest defensive shortstop in history of the game and actually play him at the shortstop, instead of keeping one of the worst shortstops in the history of the game at the position.

[@CYMotorsport]

Interestingly I just ran a quick regression - there’s no discernible correlation between DRS and being series champion to a 95% CI. Being a cincinnati native, I can speak to this anecdotally given 2011 the reds were studs with the glove leading the mlb in DRS but dog shit still 4 fans under 500 trailing a brewers team 30 games in the green. Meanwhile the eventual champions Cards had a negative DRS

[@mpaulm]

The 2005 Yankees payroll equates to about $240 million in todays dollars, which is no where near first anymore.🙄

[@Chasem143]

Yea but nobody payed that much money back then they were the first team to really spend that much

[@TE-zy5mc]

great vid from SportStorm, man is cranking out high-quality content!

[@patmccrotch5373]

Defense is absolutely killing the Phillies right now.. they're pretty absent minded on the base paths too. They're a smarter team than they're showing, and I feel like that focus will come through if they make the playoffs, but that's a HUGE if.

[@davidswarckof8025]

I feel like the 06 Yankees were a better choice for this subject video…..A Rod batting 8th in the playoffs

[@DonCarlosDonCarlos]

The Astros of the last few years are very similar to the late 90s Yankees era, in terms of homegrown talent & success. If the Yankees decided to change it up & go the Gene Michael route again, it would easily be another dynasty, but they're not willing, the fans & the media would prevent it from happening.

[@chriscollins9298]

fr that's why im not watching this L of a roster makeup anymore

[@alwillk]

Not really only 5 players were homegrown. Jeter, posada, pettite, Williams and rivera. Martinez was a mariner, knoblauch a twin, Brosius an athletic, o Neil a red. Gooden and cone were Mets. Wells and Clemens were blue jays.

[@Yoy28]

Well said

[@iamhungey12345]

@@alwillk There was Mendoza though he wasn't a star.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

The big difference is Cashman is loathe to even give a rookie an actual shot.

[@stephenthompson3348]

I did enjoy th vid yep you brought a lot to light in this

[@gandix5516]

04 Red Sox were dead in the water until they traded Nomar Garciaparra for Orlando Cabrera n Dougie mientkiewicz to sure up the defense. They didn’t make the WS with a bad Drating

[@jeff8117]

I've always felt the 2000s were arguably the most criminally underrated decade in Yankees history. During that decade(2000-2009), the Yankees had 10 consecutive winning seasons in which they averaged over 96 wins. Those years include four 100+ win campaigns, eight divisional titles and nine postseason appearances. The biggest knock on those clubs seems to be their performance in the October, but this too seems unfair. They were able to win four pennants and two World Series titles in the 2000s(That's more then some franchises team histories). This includes winning 45 postseason games and 11 postseason series. It should be pointed out that they were never swept and won at least one postseason game every year they made the postseason during that time. Truthfully, these numbers compare very favorably with the great Reds teams of the 70s, the Braves of the 90s and the Astros of the 2010s. Lastly, with regards to this video's point about defensive zone ratings, it should be pointed out that they never fielded a good defensive team based on sabremetrics(One of their better ones was 2008, the only year they missed the postseason) in the 2000s. This kind of takes the air out UZR, DZR and all the other defensive analytics mentioned by Sportstorm.

[@jeff8117]

@Bread And Circuses Can't say I agree. The Yankees came withing two outs of winning the World Series in 2001 and one out of winning the AL Pennant in 2004. Both of these instances occurred with my favorite player, who happens to be the greatest reliever of all time, on the mound. There might not be a better player in the clutch in the history of the game. They also came withing two wins of taking the 2003 World Series after winning an incredible game 7 in the ALCS. It's incredibly difficult to even be in those positions with mediocre starting pitching and non clutch hitting. In short, they won more postseason games and postseason series than any other team in the majors during that time. I agree that their starting pitching wasn't always great, and they didn't always get the big hit, but when you win more than everybody else, you're doing more things right than wrong.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Agreed. People were still under the foolish idea that you could buy championships, so the Yankees never got credit for their 8 division titles. But you can't buy your way through 3 short series against teams of a similar record in October. But even so including 2000...they won 2 titles, 4 AL Pennants, and 5 LDS's. They lost 4 LDS, one bc a pack of bugs attacked their dominant set up man.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@Jeff The Yankees were never one out away from winning the 2004 LCS. The Sox tied Game 4 with 0 outs in the 9th after the stolen base. But the biggest play and probably one of the most unlucky plays in baseball history was Clark's ground rule double in the top of the 9th in Game 5.....bc there was no way on God's green earth that Mo would blow a 2nd save that night. After that the pitching match ups were completely in the Sox favor. I still say if Pettitte wasn't on sabbatical in Houston during that year, they win that series.

[@jeff8117]

@@dukedematteo1995 I misspoke when I said one out. I meant to type one inning , but that's still incredibly close. As you point out, there were a few other instances that could have gone the other way ,but like Sterling says. "That's baseball!" 😄 I think what bothers me the most is that the Red Sox are viewed as the clutch team of the decade despite the fact that they routinely finished behind the Yanks in the standings(8 times) and lost a heartbreaking ALCS of their own in 2003(to the Yankees no less). People are quick to remind you that the Sox won the most WS titles in the 2000s. What they don't seem to remember is that they shared that distinction with the Yankees who won two of their own.

[@iamhungey12345]

@@dukedematteo1995 What can be said in hindsight, Torre should have started Mo at the 8th in Game 5.

[@alexpainter4227]

You should make a video on the dbacks going from 69-93 in 2016, to 93-69 in 2017, only to have their playoff hopes ruined by zack greinke failing to go deep in the wild card game, forcing us to burn Robbie ray, and mess up our rotation against the dodgers next series. Specific I know lol

[@mikepennino]

As a Yankee fan it frustrated me how they went from winning with building from their farm system and adding wise additions to changing approach by trying to win by out spending other teams.

[@jaylenbarnes2.079]

Great Video 👍

[@yeezylover911]

u didnt even watch it yet

[@jaylenbarnes2.079]

@Majestical Chicken I didn't have too I already know it's a banger video

[@Msteve-nt5bx]

They didn't win in those mid 2000s years but damn they were fun to watch

[@ra0929]

It's wild how bad defensively those Yankees teams were. IIRC the pitching staffs weren't full of high strikeout pitchers that couldn't mitigate against the bad defense, Aaron Small and Chien Ming Wang aside... While Gene Michael gets a lot of credit for the dynasty Yankees, Harding Petersen's role is overlooked. With the exception of Jeter, selected while Michaels was in charge, the rest of the Core Four, and Bernie Williams was already in the system.

[@iamhungey12345]

Plus one has to admit the Tony Womack signing that GM recommended wasn't exactly among his better moment.

[@ra0929]

@@iamhungey12345 I couldn't see a way the Womack, Pavano, and Wright signings could work out.

[@iamhungey12345]

@@ra0929 You know these signings are busts when Wright came out the best of the three.

[@ryan2731]

Great video.

[@noid7598]

It makes me wonder, would it have been better if Jeter played third and A-Rod at short? Jeter had very poor range for a shortstop, and Rodriguez seemed to field better before moving to third.

[@ra0929]

It's possible, but the trade never would've been made under those circumstances. If ARod and others hit better in those postseasons, then those Yankees teams might appear in a different light.

[@tomf5823]

of course they would have been but jeter's fragile ego couldn't handle that.

[@iamhungey12345]

12:35 I'm sure this won't be a running gag for the next few years.

[@frozen8672]

Oh my haven’t seen/heard Tony Womacks name in a while! Also totally forgot the Yanks picked up Randy Johnson 😂

[@jpetersgoyanks]

A division leader is NOT a failed roster construction. By any other teams standard they were successful. Only the Yankees are champs or bust but if you aren’t a fan you don’t get to say that because your team would be ecstatic with the Yankees results.

[@plawson8577]

Where the Hell is the video on the ‘05 Astros? I’m not even an Astros fan, but this channel’s utter bias against the club is disingenuous.

[@jpetersgoyanks]

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[@Surfer041]

What did in the Yankees from 04-the present, pitching. They never have enough pitching anymore.

[@iamhungey12345]

@Bread And Circuses And Boone.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Only in 2009 I guess when they sign CC Sabathia and Aj Burnett

[@54raynor]

Um, how exactly did this “experiment” nearly break Baseball? All it did was remind everyone that the World Series cannot be bought so easily, as the highest payroll in the game is no guarantee of success.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Giambi's second half was absolutely insane.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@Bread And Circuses hit 28 HRs after June.

[@iamhungey12345]

I remember the crap he took for much of the first half, moreso when Tino caught fire.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@iamhungey12345 it was honestly one of the most heroic things I've seen....and he doesn't get much credit for it. Everyone thought he was done w/o PEDs. Everyone was so down on him that Torre even asked the 34 year old former MVP to go to the minors....the minors. He was the only person who had faith in his abilities.....he declined the minors claimed he was coming around, and was right there....Everyone rolled their eyes and thought he was delusional. ....then he proceded to absolutely explode in July, August and September and ended the year as the best hitter in the League outside of Manny Ortiz and ARod. No one saw that coming except Giambi himself. He proved to the world he could be Jason Giambi again w/o steroids and won Comeback Player of the Year and hit .400 something in the LDS. He showed ppl who he was...An extremely dangerous slugger, an on base machine and an incredibly clutch HR hitter. (He's up there with Ortiz in game winning/tying and extra inning HRs for his career. Despite all this, some idiot fans say his signing was a bust

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

​@@dukedematteo1995 Yeah, Jason Giambi has always been a very clutch power hitter. He's very underrated in that front. He was never truly a bust for the Yankees. People were exaggerating so hard on Giambi...

[@johnmccarthy9165]

I remember 2005 well, the White Sox broke their curse to sweep the World Series a year after Boston broke their own Championship curse.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

If the actual wild card format was implemented in 2005 Yankees and redsox will both enter the playoffs but advanced to the wild card

[@camionerosfurgoneros5915]

IN THOSE YEAR ANGELS HAD A GREAT TEAM , AND THE ANGEL GOT TO BEAT THE YANKEES OFTEN

[@alwillk]

Very true. The angels were 67-58 vs Torres Yankees teams and knocked them out of the playoffs twice. 2005 and 2002. They were the only team to have a winning record vs the Yankees during that period as well.

[@Jkid5069]

Very true

[@iamhungey12345]

@@alwillk I felt a good number of times the Yankees kind of beat themselves.

[@iamhungey12345]

@Bread And Circuses There had been games where the Yankees blew opportunities, I mean the 1998 Yankees had no business struggling against the Angels that season. The Angels felt like the Blue Jays at times during those years.

[@ccmf]

“It’s unbelievable to me that the highest paid team in baseball would start the season in such a deep funk” 2023 Mets - “hold my beer”

[@RealHexJoker]

gene michaels also brought in joe torre and scouted bernie williams

[@aaronsteindler3245]

The 2006 Yankees experiment was even crazier, but they fell to the underdog Detroit Tigers after getting outpitched.

[@ra0929]

With Kenny Rogers pitching out of his mind for one of those games. I bring his name up, because he was supposed to be the "gimme" of that series due to his postseason reputation

[@jonsnow5513]

@@ra0929 He also cheated

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

Quietly one of the biggest mistakes the Yankees made in this era was trading Robin Ventura in mid-2003.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Why?

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

He was a good fit for the team. Aaron Boone may be remembered for a big home run but he came up small in many big spots, where Ventura was known as a clutch player. Boone then gets hurt and they trade for A-Rod which did get them 1 championship but cost a lot of money and a lot of heartaches with his terrible playoff performances. If Ventura doesn’t get traded, they could have kept Soriano or traded him for a big time pitcher and probably have won at least as many championships as they did with A-Rod.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew I think the biggest issues with this era of the Yankees has always been that they were way too distracted by stat padders like Hideki Matsui or ARod or Gary Shefield or Randy Johnson or Jason Giambi or Johnny Damon at the cost on elements actually makes a great playoff team that can consistently win playoff games and especially the World Series, but this is what George Steinbrenner has _always done_ with the Yankees since he's been in office; always going after stat heavy super stars when they're already past their prime or just stacking the lineup way too much with power hitters. George always was a huge knack for getting trading away upcoming prospects and young homegrown stars for big money star players just for the sake of the press, but not for creating a winning culture. The 1990s Yankees thought entirely differently from this approach because that system was created via Gene Michael where they keep their prospects and focus more on aquiring role players and the clubhouse culture +Joe Torre. Those 2000s era Yankees teams suffer too much from having a really streaky offense while completely sacrificing fundamentals, defence and *very unstable* starting pitching. The 1990s era Cleveland Indians also suffered from this methodolgy which is why they consistently kept on losing playoff games. Even the current Dodgers team suffers from this because outside of 4-5 superstar batters they have, no other batter in that Dodgers team can hit over .250 and they strikeout way too much. That 2004 Yankees team for example led the entire league with come from behind wins like the 1995 Indians and that's not a good sign because you constantly have to pull ahead in the postseason and they're way less chances of being able to comeback against the best pitching in the world. Earlier Yankees teams were still far better at pulling comebacks in the postseason because they were far more consistent and far better at situational hitting too and had way better pitchers especially their bullpen...

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

@@TiagoGomez-hb9te That’s too long of a comment for me to read but I never said that trading Ventura was the biggest problem. Also, Matsui was a winning player, more in the style of a 90s Yankee than the other guys you mentioned.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew Matsui was a huge exception, not the norm for the big signings the 2000s era Yankees did, and he wss still signed for his monster stats over at NPB, less so for his clutch ability. Matsui was still incredibly clutch during the playoffs. I'll give you that... But come on now, read my entire comment. It's fun...

[@jaredfischer6895]

In a couple years, you can Find+Replace 2005 Yankees for 2023 Cardinals

[@jamessearsiii7141]

Ok. Well as a lifelong braves fan… braves had incredible pitching

[@kevind.mendez7215]

even with zero defense to speak of i feel this team could have fallen ass backwards into a WS appearance if the pitching staff wasn't old as dirt

[@iamhungey12345]

Sounds like their 2000 season.

[@tommyfu9271]

Their starting pitching sucked besides Mussina after Clemens and pettite left in 2003.

[@mike-0451]

So when are you making an Astros video

[@SportStorm23]

Idk about an Astros video but I may make a Jeremy Pena video soon

[@plawson8577]

He’s doesn’t like the Astros. At All.

[@mike-0451]

@@plawson8577 I’m pretty sure all the big baseball video essay people have an agreement to never make a video on them.

[@bigjared8946]

Giambi started 78 games at 1B...

[@Stacey_-bf2mb]

Yup. Hate the Yankees all you want, their 90s teams were home grown and blue collar. The players on those teams are fan favorites to this day, and what every Yankees fan would rather see the ball club look like. If you hate the Yankees for all of their money, you’re just telling on yourself

[@Stacey_-bf2mb]

@Bread And Circuses like the Mets? Or the dodgers? Red Sox?

[@plawson8577]

This isn’t about the Dotcom Era Dynasty. 2005 wasn’t the 90s.

[@FlipFreedom1997]

People always forget to mention Bernie Williams who was better than Jeter and Posada

[@tommyfu9271]

Jeter had a better career but Bernie was a better player from 96-2000

[@FlipFreedom1997]

@@tommyfu9271 4 Championships in that span

[@acreking9680]

Baseball has been broken for a while now

[@avgGamer662]

Hal is not George's biological son

[@f3ar_wrld]

2:53 Me thinking about this in 2023😪

[@mexicanrapper4889]

The highest paid team ever is struggling early? that’s alright just call up Robinson cano 😂 team was loaded

[@d4c_reznor470]

More owners need to follow George’s example and stop being stingy with their money

[@rogertayloRRR]

You lost some points by not including bernie in that "core"

[@robertl3592]

No respect for Bernie like always core four my ass take away Bernie and you can probably erase a couple of those rings

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Bernie was the best batter that Yankees had in 1996-2001. He was pretty good. Kind underrated player and a borderline HOFer at minimum like the rest of the Core 5 squad...

[@southsider3542]

So, the two experiments of sacrificing defense for more offense and those two teams proceeded to 1. Win their division with the defending World Series Champions 2. Made it to the World Series and were two wins away from winning it So, how exactly does Ozzie Smith have a higher WAR than Frank Thomas again?

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Because with every successful team who sacrificed defense. You can name 10 teams who won with great pitching and fielding and mediocre hitting. And before we delve into yankee history. 1920s through 1950s, they had great hitting teams, but almost always good pitching and great fundamental defense. In fact, most those lulls in those 4 decades were due to having a 2-3 year dip in pitching.

[@tomf5823]

@@demonkingbadger6689 great pitching yes. but people also love lazy cliches whether or not they're based on reality. i'll take good pitching good offense and bad defense over good pitching bad offense and good defense any day.

[@southsider3542]

@@demonkingbadger6689 I wasn't talking about pitching

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@tomf5823 that good pitching has to do more work with a bad defense.

[@Cynthionic]

When the Yankees lose baseball wins

[@Lord_Bibulous]

Yankees haven't won in years and yet you're still hating???

[@Cynthionic]

@@Lord_Bibulous Yes.

[@iamhungey12345]

@@Lord_Bibulous Reasons for the hate doesn't have to be logical.

[@patrickhutchison6465]

I could be wrong, but didn’t moneyball teach us 20 years ago that defense was next to meaningless?

[@ynkeebsball]

ThE yAnKeEs BoUgHt ThEiR cHaMpIoNsHiPs

[@Lord_Bibulous]

And what, every other team is made up of volunteers? Stop the foolishness.

[@tomf5823]

god forbid the team which makes tons of money uses it to improve their team. they should just pocket it like half the owners in baseball who don't even try to win and makes tons of profit with tv money and revenue sharing money even if they don't sell 1 ticket or win 1 game.

[@ynkeebsball]

You do realize I’m making fun of the people that say that right? Hence the SpongeBob font…

[@tomf5823]

@@ynkeebsball i have no idea what sponge bob font is but glad we're in agreement.

[@Lord_Bibulous]

@@ynkeebsball Alas, text lacks context.

[@pwx13]

Beltran was garbage

[@tomf5823]

hahhahahahaha

[@nwchi234]

Just shows in reality defense in baseball doesn’t matter

[@calklobuchar]

Who cares about defense

[@johnobrien1759]

And the White Sox won the series. Best year in baseball history.

[@radkesrods1184]

Karma for trading Sheffield

[@KinkESizemore]

And then they basically repeated the same process the following year and got beat in 4 games by the Tigers. Pitching exposed once again.

[@Cody70858]

I love how Mo casually had a 308 era+

[@iamhungey12345]

That team was so up and down it's like having a mood swing in a rollercoaster.

[@Flair3777]

How did the 2005 Yankees nearly break baseball? The video didn't explore that, only that they had a high payroll and poor pitching and defence.

[@plawson8577]

And it conveniently IGNORES the 2005 NL Astros where Bagwell,Berkman and Biggio were still on the roster. This is just a Filler video where the Uploader(An Obvious WhiteSox fanboy who Despises the Astros) can just disregard them.

[@joshuapatrick682]

This was the year I stopped watching baseball. I didn’t get back in until 2019 when the Nationals took a wild card game down 1-3 in the 8th with 2 outs all the way to a championship.

[@TheBatugan77]

I hadn't noticed. Frankly, who GivesAShit?

[@L33Reacts]

What a beautiful run it was. Sadly we won’t get back for a long time 😢

[@BubbleBAss-fi8jl]

Could you do a video on the 2021 Giants? I feel like their story should be told more often

[@SportStorm23]

I imagine I'll make a video on them one day

[@KneeDeep2231]

They were a fluke team that had everything line up perfectly for them until getting bounced by their rivals in the playoffs. There, done, no video needed

[@fries5849]

@@KneeDeep2231 they were more then a “fluke” team. You don’t win 107 games by just getting lucky, and the team that beat them and knocked them out of the playoffs had to fight and claw to knock them out, and ended up losing the next series because of how many pitchers they used against the giants.

[@joshkatsikis9138]

More often?? IT JUST HAPPENED lmao

[@carsyneros]

I think the lesson to be learned is that the offense over the course of the year proved to be much more important than defense. Losing a 5 game series isn't indicative of an experiment gone totally wrong. New age stats wildly overrate defense, especially now when there are so many less balls in play. As the Phillies proved this year, defense is given too much weight in comparison to hitting and pitching. I also think there is a far greater correlation with better hitting teams being able to overcome their defensive inefficiencies than a great defensive team being able to overcome its offensive inefficiencies.

[@MercuryRain]

There is. The 2015 Royals are the only team that pretty much won a World Series entirely because of Defense and Baserunning. The team was otherwise average at best on both Pitching and Hitting. But I also think that offense could have carried the Yankees even back in 2005 if they'd had a remotely adequate pitching staff. Like, after he joined the team halfway through the season Shawn Chacon was their best pitcher. Shawn. Chacon. The man who had never had an ERA+ above 108 before that and never again had an ERA+ above 111 afterwards. Shawn Chacon across his career was a league average pitcher that somehow became an ace for 3 months in 2005. Before he came around the team was relying on 3 league average pitchers to top their rotation.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Agreed. The Yankees "problem" that year wasn't the defense. It's the fact that George wouldn't tolerate any rebuilding phase .and their starting pitching was depleted after Clemens and Pettitte went to Houston and Pavano was constantly injured. The 2004 starting pitching wasn't much better either. But the formula of mediocre pitching, below average defense and scoring 850 to 900 runs a year wasn't a bad formula. They averaged about 96 wins btw 2004 - 2007.

[@DonOfChi]

It’s nice to see the Yankees struggle to make it to a WS. Now they overpaid for a injury prone Judge and Rodon. I’m calling a 82-80 season for them if we get 2018-2021 Judge and Rodon.

[@joeblow9657]

This brings back childhood memories!

[@veritasinvicta8128]

Clemons leaving for Houston in 2004 didn't kill the Yankees but big game Andy Pettitte following him wrought havoc on the rotation. From 1996 on during the dynasty years Andy and David Cone were the backbone and foundation of the staff. Guys like Jimmy Key, David Wells and finally the Rocket added to the core and Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez sealed the deal for dynasty. With Andy the Bombers don't run out of starters in that 2004 ALCS and the rotation doesn't cost them for three straight seasons.

[@iamhungey12345]

Plus Pettitte was generally the Yankees' best pitcher against the Red Sox, the question is whether or not he would have avoided that elbow injury in 2004 had he stayed with the team. If so then he would have likely been a factor in 2004 ALCS but who knows? Especially with the blown scoring opportunities in the extras which didn't help.

[@tommyfu9271]

Both of them leaving really hurt the Yankees. They went from a really good rotation to Mussina and mostly shit. Pettites "big game" reputation is horseshit by the way. He was a very good pitcher who was very good in the playoffs. His regular season and playoff numbers are almost identical (it's actually crazy how similar they are.) It's not like he was Curt Schilling in the playoffs.

[@187mrsmith]

That's what was so special about that 2004 Red Sox World Series team they were the lovable idiots who weren't supposed to win the World Series an finally broke the Curse of the Great Bambino aka Babe Ruth!

[@187mrsmith]

The Yankees team had a mental breakdown the following year cus the red Sox destroyed the mental after being up 0-3!

[@Anon-yy6wm]

Im a huge Red Sox fan and growin up I always remembered the Yankees bringing up these random minor league pitchers because their staff was terrible. Yankees also had one of the worst farm leagues in all the bigs becaue they just threw most their money to free agents instead of their youth. The fact that between 2005-2008 they only missed the playoffs once and won the DIvision twice goes to show how great this offense was. Even Joe Torre has admitted that he was shocked that the Yankees made the playoffs in 2007 because they got off to a terrible start and hardly made any significant move throughout the season.

[@TheInstantclassicffa]

People always forget Bernie Williams when speaking about these teams. Just because he was called up a few years early does not make him different from the core four.

[@BrunoEwok]

What a waste of time. What was the experiment? Spending a lot of money? THAT was an experiment??? No analysis, just a description of how they were good but not great.

[@CharmCityGamer]

Haven't the Yankees been breaking it since 1996? Joking aside, thanks for the vid SportStorm!

[@187mrsmith]

It's not like anybody's going to feel bad for that yankees team they just came off winning so many World Series they were bound to have some failure eventually

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

George Steinbrenner proving that he shouldn’t be in control once again.

[@OneSideofFries]

Good video, a trooper for going through all this research. Baseball in the 2000’s was a special time. Glad this era got me into the game. Might have to check out some more videos.

[@ebscoHOSTpub]

that thumbnail picture is disrespectful lmfaooooo

[@tomf5823]

The Phillies weren't some brilliantly designed team. The playoffs are a total crapshoot and it took a rule change for them to even make the playoffs in the first place with a shit record. Even if harper was healthy all year that's not some great team.

[@Zareksis]

.133 is why their lost.

[@187mrsmith]

Basically that yankees team did what the 2004 lakers team dis thinking all these old veteran legends we're gonna come in to one of the most winning franchises in cash in for a championship last minute

[@lunarumbreon7699]

What? How could the Yankees, a team with the greatest defender ever, Derek Jeter, be bad at defense? Please realize this is a joke

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Well, i would argue mark belanger was better than Ozzie, just no flash. But, it is hard to say especially since Belanger got to play beside the greatest at 3B in that.

[@lunarumbreon7699]

@Bread And Circuses i was joking

[@Surfer041]

Yankees should have swept the Angels. They 100% gave that series away.

[@iamhungey12345]

Especially Game 2 and 5.

[@thomasjcox]

2004-2006 Yankees were good but underachieving.

[@gandix5516]

Also I love the hot take that your defense is atrocious so pitchers have no faith in the people behind them so any failure must be the pitchers fault. Not that the defense can’t make any play outside of a routine play 😂

[@aaronfudge3742]

yankees lost all those years 05-08 beause Cashman couldn't put together a real rotation