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@Adam-er5mk11 ай бұрын
That they absolutely didn't need to cheat to win makes the fact that they did cheat that much worse to me.
@beckettschuchts42756 ай бұрын
i dont think so. you would dislike it the same or more if it was the margin of victory
@wesleyantrim664811 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn’t need to cheat is the main reason they get so much public backlash. They were a likable team that was easy to root for. I’ve been a ranger fan for 40 years, and even I was rooting for them in 2017. The general public was behind them, and when the news broke that they cheated, a lot of people felt stabbed in the back. Astro fans can complain all day about being hated, but it was a purely self inflicted wound.
@elijahcraig79767 ай бұрын
Bro Astros were a scapegoat. We weren’t the only ones. Obviously there were other teams doing it before and after the stros. They just wanted to blame a non coastal elite team
@wesleyantrim66487 ай бұрын
@@elijahcraig7976 ok. Doesn’t change my sentiment at all.
@elijahcraig79767 ай бұрын
@@wesleyantrim6648why? If other teams are cheating and you beat other cheating teams while cheating who cares?why don’t the 2018 redsox get more flak? We won in 2022 so it really doesn’t matter. Kiss the rings
@wesleyantrim66487 ай бұрын
@@elijahcraig7976 because the Red Sox and Yankees have been around for a century and pretty much everybody had already formed an opinion on them. They either love them or hate them. No cheating scandal was gonna drastically alter how the general public viewed them. The Astros were virtually a clean slate. There was no reason for anyone to hate them on a national level. So when the 2017 team came along with what was an incredibly likable team, basically everybody outside of Southern California was rooting for them to kick the dodger’s ass. And people felt betrayed. I’m not saying it’s fair that Houston caught the lion’s share of the scrutiny, but it is what it is.
@beckettschuchts42756 ай бұрын
thats disingenous. backlash would be the same no matter what
@AndThatsBaseball11 ай бұрын
Broke: The Dodgers would've won the World Series Broke: The Yankees would've won the World Series Broke: The Red Sox would've won the World Series Woke: The Angels would've won the World Series
@ygf37711 ай бұрын
You could make an argument the dodgers could have won the world series considering how close games 2 and 5 where
@KOCChristian11 ай бұрын
@@ygf377could make argument if Astros wasn’t winning it would motivate Marines Angels into starting their own dynasty
@deleting111811 ай бұрын
@@ygf377game 2 was on the road
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
Galaxy Brained: Diamondbacks would’ve won the World Series if the dodgers didn’t Monstar JD Martinez to oblivion
@salamanderonhere11 ай бұрын
Drumming up controversy? I hope he prides himself and thinks of himself as a man of faith
@jamesesterline11 ай бұрын
He prides himself as a man of faith, as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.
@SconnerStudios11 ай бұрын
@@jamesesterline funniest moment in sports history. The man may have been a bigot, but dammit if he wasn't dedicated to delivering us play by play.
@smoceany947811 ай бұрын
@@SconnerStudios hes got all the qualities i want in a worker, except respecting me as a human being
@thecaveman350311 ай бұрын
What does being someone of faith have to do with a damn thing?
@smoceany947811 ай бұрын
@@thecaveman3503 its a reference to thom brennamans apology
@DeathGrip120211 ай бұрын
Yeah, and that's probably what makes it such a Greek tragedy: we won't ever know because, even though they likely would have won, they still brought the questions upon themselves by cheating.
@White_man_from_town8 ай бұрын
I agree with this 100%. If they didn't cheat, they would've still had a successful season. Would they still have won the WS? I'm not sure. Everyone wants to criticise the offense for cheating but forget just how elite their pitching was that year. It's debatable that the Yankees were robbed of a WS appearance, but they only scored 3 runs on the road against the Astros with no multi run games. The Dodgers, on the other hand, I feel less bad for because they still lost 2 games at home where the Astros were not able to steal signs which is another point to drive on why they didn't need to cheat. Both teams were robbed to a degree, but I think the Yankees were robbed harder (because they held a 3-2 ALCS lead after game 5).
@shoukatsukai7 ай бұрын
The Astros scored more runs in 1 road game that series than the Yankees did in 4.
@Zacg0111 ай бұрын
2017 Astro's pitchers had military grade magnets in their baseballs and catchers mitt. This clearly affected pitch speed, spin rates, and pitch locations and you completely overlooked this fact.
@Mr.DerekReese11 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@zymarquiez11 ай бұрын
No kidding.
@retro_retro_retro11 ай бұрын
wonderful video sir!
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
Thank you, king
@thecaveman350311 ай бұрын
Stop watching and commenting and make videos again please!
@1992sterlingsharpe11 ай бұрын
Still a little shaken up at the news that Jed lowrie was an Astro
@callumcameron798311 ай бұрын
Oakland Legend
@Opnicop8 ай бұрын
Astro 2x 2nd time couldn’t stay healthy so Correa got called up
@slayermcrx75197 ай бұрын
I'm an Astros fan and I was so happy that I was able to see them win their first championship unaware of how long they struggled to do anything for most of their history. I was devastated when the scandal broke but I held faith because they were still a great team despite the cheating. they proved me right because they won legit in 2022 with what I think was an even better roster thank 2017.
@commandershepard447111 ай бұрын
Im a lifelong Stros fan. I remember as a child my bedtime was when Brad Lidge came up to pitch. The fact that the Stros are used as a scapegoat for cheating in the MLB is wild. So many teams cheated and “got away with it” over the years such as the Yankees/Reds/Giants/Jankees. I love baseball but Good Lord, so many teams want every advantage they get and some scrape by and some get caught red handed. That’s how it works.
@SenorTortas11 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to go through that
@bmac411 ай бұрын
Gaylord Perry admitted to cheating and got in the HoF. We had that whole spidertack incident. I don't like the Astros, but it's not because of the cheating, cause who cares that much about that? So many teams benefitted from the steroid era, it'd be kinda hypocritical. They got their punishment, it probably should have been more than it was, but anyone up in arms about serious moral complications obviously hasn't watched this sport for very long, it's not something I'm gonna spend that much time dwelling on.
@Mr.DerekReese11 ай бұрын
@@bmac4outta curiosity, why don't you like the Astros anyway?
@SconnerStudios11 ай бұрын
I agree with the title of this video. However, before watching the full video, I think it's important we should all agree that regardless of the effect, cheating is wrong and we should put the * next to their world series win because they knew they were doing wrong. It's sad that they probably could have never used a single trash can bang and still won. Corked bats have virtually no effect on distance and power, and until we have AI stealing signs to make sign stealing more effective, sign stealing probably has very little, if any, advantage for knowing a pitch a quarter of a second before it's thrown. Spider tack and steroids however should be met with much serious punishments. I'm curious what the pitchers were using on their balls in 2017-2019, considering Trevor Bauer earned the scorn of MLB for calling them out for it. I bet Verlander has been loading the ball with tack for most of his career. Umps should be testing the balls way more often, and give them half a season suspension for their first offense. Yeah, I'm mad that Zack Greinke has pitched better than all these other pitchers of the past 20 years, but hasn't gotten the credit because he's one of the very, very, very, few in MLB not using tack.
@ygf37711 ай бұрын
The problem with sticky stuff and steroids is that everyone was using it so you can't say that cheating is a unfair dissadvantage. That said the numbers show that sign stealing isn't very effective which is likely why the team stpoed doing it
@xstros908611 ай бұрын
if you aint cheatin are you really trying?
@thecaveman350311 ай бұрын
To long fell asleep
@SconnerStudios11 ай бұрын
@@thecaveman3503 *two
@SconnerStudios11 ай бұрын
7:56 It's almost like...something changed....maybe his spin rate went up a little bit? He got better sticky stuff I bet. Someone in the Astro's organization probably created a great substance to up all their pitchers' spin rates.
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
Hey technically it was legal at the team
@thecaveman350311 ай бұрын
It's almost like, it's was perfectly legal in mlb at the time😂
@silentstorm543911 ай бұрын
That's definitely one of my theories about the Astros. There was a lot of guys that came in that were meh and became good all of a sudden. I do think they had better sticky stuff than everyone else
@thecaveman350311 ай бұрын
@silentstorm5439 you're probably right, doesn't mean they cheated tho as there were no guidelines for that in mlb at the time. Reminds me of another time so many still grumble over even tho what those hitters did was perfectly legal at the time as well😂😂😂😂
@silentstorm543911 ай бұрын
@@thecaveman3503 oh yeah lol i ain't saying they cheated by it. It took the MLB a couple of years to finally ban the substances. All teams were using it at the time, but the Astros definitely seem like they created the best one
@Sophiagracedent0711 ай бұрын
getting my popcorn ready for the comments 🍿
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
Make sure it’s extra salty
@Aspect469 ай бұрын
Id love to see the WS Royals pls❤
@nomorefielders9 ай бұрын
Deal. I’ll take any excuse I can get to talk about Edinson Volquez
@Aspect469 ай бұрын
@@nomorefielders thank you !!
@fearthebeardfootballchanne25052 ай бұрын
So what you're trying to say is my team would have gave up a game-winning Grand slam to a team whose core reason for cheating was with their pitching. I really appreciate the content you're pushing out, but I want you to understand as a Yankees fan, as a very unbiased Yankee fan that was our year. We took them to 7 and they still cheated. Give us a level playing ground and we stomp them.
@bradenstewart627011 ай бұрын
Sponsorship No Fielders looking like Rock Star Jesus on his way to Jerusalem
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
He’s gonna suffer the same fate as him if he keeps doing my ad reads without my permission.
@EpicGamer14_10 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn’t need to cheat makes it even worse that they did. Also I’m a Yankees fan, yeah they didn’t score but it’s so frustrating that they got so close despite the team they were facing cheating. Did they deserve to win? Probably not. Is it frustrating? Absolutely.
@WhatHappenedtoBaseball11 ай бұрын
2:27 who is this guy??
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
A dead man
@MrHow2fail11 ай бұрын
No chance we beat NY with that bullpen
@YanksJetsRangers10 ай бұрын
1:21 I don’t think you can say this when the series went to game 7
@lifeisboss70977 ай бұрын
the astros could of forfeited 3 games for fun and still won that series. as a padres fan I know that run differential or any of that BS matters. If you can't score runs every other game, dont expect to be over 500
@Zacg0111 ай бұрын
I feel personally victimized by No More Fielders
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
I think I pretended that I was talking to you during the Keuchel rant
@MrPooly145911 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@OH_MY_DOGGG11 ай бұрын
One little voice is calling me
@glovepro12567 ай бұрын
OK Astros fans… they didn’t need to cheat. HOWEVER, they did. The fact that they had a good team doesn’t mean they can cheat and be excused for it.
@Smarod5 ай бұрын
I'm a man of few words ao all I'll say is I'm hype
@freddyandfoxy752611 ай бұрын
You probably right about that. But they decided to be idiots and said oh we should cheat.
@shoukatsukai11 ай бұрын
Hun they were the only ones to be dumb enough to get caught. Stop believing they were the only ones doing it
@intune25211 ай бұрын
@@shoukatsukai bro they had a fucking illegal camera in center field😂find me evidence of other teams having one that isn't just he said she said(and don't tell me the yankees or red sox because they didn't install a fucking camera and trash cans just to cheat)
@shoukatsukai11 ай бұрын
@@intune252 it doesn't matter the method they use, all 3 teams were caught cheating using cameras. So who's not to say they were the only 3 teams were doing it
@KOCChristian11 ай бұрын
Feel like too many dumb casual just screaming cheating automatically makes you winner. When it’s combination of skill and cheating.
@naihuakuo11 ай бұрын
didnt need to, but did anyways
@jbryant52537 ай бұрын
That RHCP rap sample is 🔥🔥🔥
@shoukatsukai11 ай бұрын
I need a video on how the 2019 Astros were the best team ever to not win the World Series
@wesleyantrim664811 ай бұрын
They’re not even the best team in my lifetime to not win the World Series. The A’s in both 1988 and 1990 take that honor.
@shoukatsukai11 ай бұрын
@@wesleyantrim6648 -124 team wRC+ is the 2nd best in the integration era behind this year's Braves - 7 guys had an OPS+ over 120 -Their number 1 and 2 starting pitchers were Top 2 Cy Young finishers, way ahead of the other finishers. -Their number 3 was a Hall of Famer at the tail end of his prime The A's teams from 1990 comes the closest but its not particularly comparable. Also Bob Welch shouldn't have won Cy Young over Roger Clemens that year.
@rico916311 ай бұрын
@@wesleyantrim6648 statistically this is not true, and I can't go off of "the eye test" since I wasn't alive then
@witgiz11 ай бұрын
nice vid, sorry i’m late
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
No worries, Witgiz
@intune25211 ай бұрын
Real Yankee fans know the reason we lost is because we scored 3 runs in 4 games in Houston it's pretty simple. Thing is that there's always fallacy of predetermined outcome and losing to cheaters is gonna make you feel bitter. But 2022 made me and a lot of fans realize it wasn't the cheating that made us lose, because between 2017 and 2022, Judge was the only hitter that remained, yet it felt like I was watching the same team. And of course Brian Cashman will find some way to blame his team's inability to win when it matters on anything that doesn't involve him and his giga 1 million IQ brain, idk why you're surprised about that. But yeah any sane Yankees fan will tell you we were close and it hurts to lose but our offense collapsed and we lost. Dodgers though got absolutely robbed, I remember telling my friend the day after game 5 that the game was so dramatic and perfect it almost seemed scripted. Sucks for them
@tomcruze789811 ай бұрын
Yea they did 😂😂
@beckettschuchts42756 ай бұрын
the only reason this astros team gets such a bad reputation for this stuff that other teams have done to is because of how stupid and obvious the trash can shit is
@dafttassia196011 ай бұрын
That year's didgers were unbelievable. Would have beaten them for sure
@manzac11211 ай бұрын
Game 2 and Game 7 say otherwise.
@jasonfire343411 ай бұрын
@@manzac112if not for that ridiculous Game 5 we win in 6
@joshdelagarza23111 ай бұрын
Personally I’m glad they cheated. I admire a team that’s willing to do whatever it takes to win, even if it means breaking the rules.
@thebeatleswin111 ай бұрын
Damn, So they cheated and made that world series win meaningless and probably didn’t have to? What a bunch of idiots.
@danielcapece78211 ай бұрын
Must be a trashtros fan.
@nomorefielders11 ай бұрын
As you can tell by my Chipper Jones poster and my Braves Outkast bobblehead
@1992sterlingsharpe11 ай бұрын
Still a little shaken up at the news that Jed lowrie was an Astro