The 2021 Lib Tech Orca HP Snowboard Review

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[@slushyshredder666]

So happy 2 see you back after a long deserved vacation. Made me realize how much I dig your channel. Keep up the hard work angry!!!

[@erezra]

I don't particularly care about the Orca but the quality of your videos is definitely improving! This is really a great way to review boards! Thanks!

[@jeffowen-hicks3286]

One of your most informative, balanced reviews to date. I like the new stance details. The new background jazz was unexpected. Do I need to pour myself a glass of wine for the upcoming Gremlin review? Stay classy AS.

[@eftihiosgalanis6977]

Excellent review. I tested the first Orca prior to it hitting the stores and absolutely loved it. Was trying to to buy it for the past 3 years but always sold out. got my hands on the 2021 version and although I still love the board it is less playful than other versions but the trade off is that you can charge a little harder with this one and it actually is lighter and floats a little better on powder. So if you want something a little more aggressive go for this version, a little more playful for for the older versions

[@jeremiahvollert6830]

Awesome thank you

[@brzeelee36]

Right on i definitely like the feel of last years orca pass on this one

I do have 2020 version and it's lovely. I wouldn't switch for this one. Sometimes I miss features that HP gives to this board but for that reason I will buy different board.

[@pkhval]

Killer board. I absolutely love it. I’ve always rode a twin and this is my first directional. Rode it 2 seasons and can’t wait for the next. Never skips an edge. Kills it on icy days. Powder is next to effortless depending on the type. Bought mine 3” too large at 153”- and I’m 5’8- 195lbs. Still a joy to ride after slight learning curve. My favorite board of the new era, until something better comes out…

[@HNM69]

Looking forward to the Split version of the orca

[@Wallstreetavarice]

I'd love to ride the new one just to compare to my 2019/20 Orca. I personally prefered the HP T.Rice to the OP one, and prefer my gold member to either of those. I do feel like the Orca was stiff enough though

[@rgtorque]

welcome back!

[@Glen6999]

Orca is 🔥, stoked on how it handles the deep snow.

[@thewarriorpainter9159]

I really want to add this to my quiver, I’ve got a Gnu Billy Goat that I ride at Sierra Tahoe most of the time, a Gold Member and a Trice Pro HP (depending on where I am/what I’m doing) a for places like Squaw or Jackson Hole (haven’t made it out East to WY for a awhile though), I can’t decide if I should get this or the Jones Storm Chaser?? I think I’d hunt down last years for the livelier feels. @angrysnowboarder I’d love to know your thoughts.

[@tsubakisan1147]

Hey Avran, welcome back, hope you had a good break! so.. given that last year's Orca was a "low angle, volume shifted, freeride, pow-chasing, cruiser board" - what board would you say is closest in ride feel to it?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Yes The Y., Telos Backslash, and to an extent the Ride Warpig.

[@keithwomack5943]

I like my Orca from last year I'll pass on the HP, thanks for the info

[@WestonDeboer]

I was looking into getting board, great review

[@dimitar862]

I tested this Orca HP 2021 last week. It is really too stiff for me, did not enjoy it very much especially in the forest, tight turns were not easy at all. Carving was not real carving, so I'm a bit confused about the hype around it. I guess, if I ride it on steep half meter of powder, then I could like it :D

[@NeilSalaria]

I’m riding this board every weekend in the PNW mountains with the union falcor bindings. Love this board especially after coming from a burton process. Easy to maneuver and holds the edge nicely. Highly recommended.

[@jacobbhendersonn3529]

I have the exact setup, going to try it out tomorrow for the first time

[@benjaminblackwood413]

@@jacobbhendersonn3529 hope you're out there right now enjoying it man!

[@SuperBluemoon3]

Loving your Reviews.. and i appreciate i many get shot down for what im about to write.. OK i only get to ride like once a year for about a week.. for the last 10 years love been riding a Burton Vapour 158 and im looking to change its about time i know.. Now i like the ORCA normal or HP but was also looking at the Salomon Dancehaul... what else should i consider. Most of my riding is Piste, little bit of off piste hardly ever use the Park after i snapped my arm.. And most of the time now im chasing and or trying to keep up with my 15 year old.. help and advice greatly appreciated.. keep up the good work loving it :O)

[@AngrySnowboarder]

You can find a regular Orca? Get a Libtech Dynamo.

[@SuperBluemoon3]

@@AngrySnowboarder i can get my hands on a regular Orca 153 - didn't know if the Dancehaul is worth searching out as well. Or do i just join the Pod and get the Orca...lol thanks again

[@danhworth100]

Think this would rival a 420 or the Sushi for deep snow in the trees? The look and specs make it seem more like the Optimistic but with less side cut. I did see you compare it to the Kool Bean which says a lot given how pow specific that board is.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

If I was riding trees I'd go with either of those first they're just better unless I was doing log jibbing in the trees then the Orca would be an OK choice.

[@iseeyourschwarz8973]

I think my idea of stiffness must be totally out of whack. I found it really soft and playful and forgiving! Compared to my daily driver warping I found it about the same to butter off the nose and easier to butter on the tail

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Warpig is stiffer, but compartively to the first gen Orca and this generation it's stiffer. That's the basis of what it is.

[@jaybartlett2561]

2019 graphic was still the best...

[@Bohdisattva326]

nice david Browie,,,real nice.

[@BChiarcos]

Hey Angry, love the reviews! 215 lbs, 6'2, 10.5 feet, you think I could get away with a 153 as a pow specific board?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Yes, absolutely

[@BChiarcos]

@@AngrySnowboarder beauty thanks!

[@bobbywinsor3083]

Any chance you review that Mullair...cough cough I mean Essential Service? I was fortunate to land one, just would be interested in your thoughts. Keep up the great work, really appreciate what you do!

[@AngrySnowboarder]

What's a Mullair?

[@bobbywinsor3083]

@@AngrySnowboarder My bad...Essential Service (aka essentially the same board as another which shall no longer be named)

[@sbuttermytoast8]

Great review! I just bought an orca last night but I’m wondering if I bought the right size. I’m 5’9, 180, with a size 8 boot and I bought a 156cm. Do you think this is a good size or should I size down?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Your call.

[@skankwave5245]

The 153 is the same width so not a huge difference. i have a 159, I'm 6.1 and 163 lbs and wouldn't necessarily take a smaller orca, doesn't float as much, would just be a bit more maneuverable

[@viBolelli]

Hey Avran, I have a question, I rode the Orca from a friend, and I felt really locked in whenever carving it, I have a Gold Member and I feel it more loose than the Orca, is it because of the sidecut radius or the construction of the board itself ? If I am not wrong they have almost the same construction no ? Mine Gold Member is 155 and his Orca is 151.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

It's probably the difference in torsional flex coupled with the sidecut.

[@and1adik]

Happy new year brother. Wanted to get orca 147, but now gremlin 148 comes out... What would you pick?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

More play between the feet Orca, more snap and charge Gremlin. I'll have a Gremlin review dropping this week.

[@TheeAaron]

@@AngrySnowboarder Interested in the Gremlin also but fear it might be a little to aggressive for me

[@ttnguyen5150]

How do you compare this with the gnu gremlin? Like c2x vs c3? I mainly ride up in the PNW searching for good powder in the trees

[@AngrySnowboarder]

C2 X is more playful and less precise. If you're looking to charge hard you want the C3 on the Gremlin if you're looking for more torsional flex which is optimal for tree riding you go with the C2x.

[@braydenlangford]

Lib tech is a good brand

[@michaelandrew83]

I have and Orca and a Skunk ape (size 11.5 boot 190lbs) The skunk ape bombs a little harder straight on groomers and chunder, has a touch less control in most all conditions. I got the skunk for early season to be a quasi rock board, but to be honest the orca is just an all around better board. It does pretty much everything better than the Skunk ape. I jumped on my buddies jones Mountain twin (exact same size and bindings 157/58 wide) and that board was CONSIDERABLY better than the skunk ape in everything BUT deep powder. My conclusion was that the orca actually did put it all together, it has sensitivity and touch and play on hard pack but also floats and responds amazingly in deep snow.

[@ryanfleming2091]

Had a similar experience. Got the orca for powder, but it's effectively replaced my entire quiver. Which admittedly isn't huge (I only have a never summer snow trooper) but I couldn't be happier with the Orca :)

[@sur_ron_crash_test_dummy]

Demoed Both these boards a few weeks ago at Stevens pass and agree completely. Rode the Skunk Ape the first couple days and had fun but it had a couple quirks and would occasionally surprise me by catching edges. Traded it for the Orca and kept that for the rest of my trip. Easy to ride on the groomers and floated great in the powder.

[@stevros48]

With the golden orca being fp construction do you think it will ride better than this hp model ? And will you be doing a review on the golden ? Seems a big feature was the whale tail so taking that away is questionable

[@AngrySnowboarder]

It's a completely different board.

[@HeliTom84]

Good review and he is right. (I had last years model and the new one now) but, personally I really feel the new is a little better for the most users that are looking for a board like that. Anyways, it’s MY favourite at least :) did try the new Salomon dancehaul, and it’s good, but C2 rocker is the way to go for most people I believe. “Traditional” Camber just doesn’t feel right on a board like that.

[@ianmichael9224]

I was looking atbthe dancehaul since its a bit less than the orca,but had the same thoughts about the "traditional " camber in the middle. Probably wouldn't be as good in powder as the orca. Does this years orca feel a bit more stable at speed compared to last years?

[@HeliTom84]

@@ianmichael9224 hey Ian, Yes. IMO newest model feels a tiny bit more planted and stabile.

[@ianmichael9224]

@@HeliTom84 awesome thanks ! Just wanted to have a good idea what im getting since I'm dropping $650 on it haha. What size did you get out of curiosity? I'm only about 150lbs ,5'10 and size 10.5 boots. Was thinking of getting the 150 even though it sounds small to me, but I've never ridden a volume shifted board like this but still want it to be nimble in the tight trees etc.

[@HeliTom84]

@@ianmichael9224 you’re welcome :) I’m riding the 156 (usually ride 162+). I’m 6’2", 200 lbs and size 11. You will be just fine with the 150 I guess but it’s personal preference too. There are some sale going on, so I think you can buy it cheaper. www.snowcountry.eu/lib-tech-travis-rice-orca.html?country=NO&curr=EUR&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoL3Vhr2R7gIVi9-yCh33lAdVEAQYAiABEgJmnvD_BwE

[@ianmichael9224]

@@HeliTom84 cool thanks man! I pulled the trigger on a 150. I have only owned twin all mountain type boards and look forward to riding a good freeride board that i won't get stuck when riding deeper snow when we get it haha

[@ouisambenazuz5867]

Great review!! What size would you recommend for me? I’m 6’3 and 210lbs size foot 11.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

53 for more play 56 for more charging.

[@ouisambenazuz5867]

@@AngrySnowboarder thx!

[@oleksandrbovkun9418]

nice review man, i had a one question for u. If i have boots 13 US size, can i pick 159 orca? cuz 162 is out of sales in my country =(

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Really goes by your weight but sure.

[@oleksandrbovkun9418]

@@AngrySnowboarder tnx bro, weight 100 kg :)

[@50StichesSteel]

Any groomer prone, ice shuckin boards coming up for review in the future for us east coast guys?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

No, only doing powder board reviews about boards with Jetski's on them.

[@50StichesSteel]

@@AngrySnowboarder 😂🤙

[@doyouevennaturebro4593]

The goat is here

[@dingocapo2087]

Hey man I threw down on the lib tech Dynamo 2020 I'm 155lbs got the 159cm fast board love it but really need to work to get what I want out of it. You think its to big 159cm?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Fuck yeah I do.

[@-tr0n]

Start huffin those cheeseburgers.

[@samuelmangiaterra4491]

Just grabbed a 161w westmark rocker, any recommendations on bindings to compliment the board. Intermediate or better rider

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Well I don't think the Orca HP could be mounted to the binding slots of your Arbor Westmark Rocker. But hey with woodscrews, some glue, and persistence you can make anything happen.

[@Rolling2Quarters]

Union Force. Been using them on my Westmark for 2 years now. They're great.

[@bradymiller2852]

Will you be doing a review on the Gnu Antigravity

[@AngrySnowboarder]

There's a review of it.

[@TheDigicam10]

Looking to get a second board, currently ride a 155 typo in Aus, planing on hitting Japan early next year, would a 153 2022 orca be a good alternate board to the typo with the aim of taking it overseas?Powder is non existent in Aus, does the orca charge enough over shit snow? Also considering the Yes Standard

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Sure.

[@TheDigicam10]

@@AngrySnowboarder ty qt

[@esvignettes7592]

Best board I’ve ever ridden. It’s 100% everything the hype says it is.

[@tannerk3732]

With the new HP, would I be able to drop down to the 144cm from the 147cm? 5'5", 140lbs. Size 8 boots. Didn't think there would be less stability with the smaller board.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Yeah you can.

[@tannerk3732]

@@AngrySnowboarder do you think anything is notable? When I look at the actual dimensions, the only real difference is 2" vs 2.5" set back. Is it even a perceivable difference? Should I just stfu and order one?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

You'll be fine on either size. It's time to sack up.

[@tannerk3732]

@@AngrySnowboarder I went with the 147cm. 💪 figured 3cm wouldn't make a difference. (Wife might disagree.)

[@Mark-pz5xf]

Hi there AS, What are your thoughts on the new Salomon dancehaul?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

That this is the Orca HP review.

[@Mark-pz5xf]

Fair point ...

[@joec2767]

Does the new orca perform better as a more dedicated pow board than the old model? It sounds like the old gen was more versatile overall.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Shape wise it's still the same all you're doing is losing the playfulness which helped it in low angle pow and trees.

[@joec2767]

@@AngrySnowboarder thanks

[@drb9628]

I’m 6’1 225 without my gear on, size 12 boot should I go for the 156 or 159

[@AngrySnowboarder]

56

[@elstokedgringo]

I have the 153 with union stratas and k2 maysis. Having fun so far exploring pow and off piste where I can

[@motoweenies4431]

Currently have libtech dynamo(which you rated highly), I have the option to get this board used for a great price, is it kind of redundant and pointless for me? Lots of groomers in the northeast, when going on trips I stick to powder and glades.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Don't buy into the hype.

[@motoweenies4431]

@@AngrySnowboarder That's the vibe i got reading your comments here, I appreciate it

[@nolanosborne9544]

What one is better for tree runs? The orca or the gremlin?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Orca

[@chrisrobinson8163]

I've seen first and second year versions of this board with horsepower construction stamped on it so what's the deal

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Probably put out a few HP boards and used the old graphic.

[@bukchoiii]

Worth getting if I already have a ride warpig?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Your call there.

[@ryanrainville1041]

162 seems large for a volume shift board. I'm a pretty big guy and ride a large super pig. Pretty sure that's a 154 and it's plenty of board for my freeride needs. My splitboard is a 160 backwoods and I ride that in nipple deep powder. 162 seems so big for a volume shift.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Oh it's ungodly huge I'd put a 350 plus dude with a size 14 on it.

[@jpwookie22]

I just traded for a 162. It’s narrower and shorter than my daily driver so not so much of a volume shift for me. I’m looking forward to feeling how a 7m sidecut on a 162 rides but based on my first impressions I’ll probably sell it after a couple of sessions.

[@sbespn3820]

I wonder how the Orca would ride with a setback camber instead of C2.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Probably more like the Gremlin.

[@searchinglife6122]

dat GOLDEN Orca gunna be one heavy rippa brah !!!

[@nivbornovski4066]

What do you think about the jones stratos ?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

That this is the Lib Tech Orca HP review.

[@jaybartlett2561]

I knew the response to this question would be great. 🤣

[@user-urmommylikeahoe]

I need that Mullër

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Renamed Essential Service.

[@kylehughes7158]

@@AngrySnowboarder Is there a review coming of this year's model? I see it in the background.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

@@kylehughes7158 There's nothing in the background that's just a fragment of your imagination.

[@kylehughes7158]

@@AngrySnowboarder Here i thought the drugs from last night wore off...

[@kylepelletier420]

Kinda glad I have last years orca to be honest

[@kylepelletier420]

Its a great board but everyone fucking has one. I had the 18/19 and the edge split so lib sent me a 19/20. Probably wont buy one again if they keep the hp. I'm a soul surfing kinda guy.

[@miplatt88]

Same!

[@danobrien4454]

Just got a steal on last years and I’m glad I ended up with it instead of this years after this

[@Matthew-re9pb]

I went with the goldmember... my guess it would be alot more lively of a board than the orca, while still being really stable at high speeds. That FP

[@howdyitsdavid]

@@kylepelletier420 I feel the same way re: having last years. No thanks on the HP.

[@shredboiardee1878]

Looks alone, I am usually not down with cutesy turn objects into animals designs....BUT I love the way Orca looks! 🤷

[@g8r796]

any plans to reveiw the apex orca?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

There's always plans for things.

[@g8r796]

@@AngrySnowboarder Then I'll plan to check it out if it happens. Wondering how much stiffer it actually is.

[@TheUnderdogg666]

Got myself an MC Wayfinder seriously, this thing is underrated, Still think I made a better choice than an orca. It is just me or I see Orca everywhere, but I saw nobody using it properly.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

They ride entirely different.

[@eriks4911]

Orca or lumberjack in a foot of pow?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Yes.

[@bobbyfalaguerra8480]

Good option to add to the quiver to compliment a Custom X?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Could be.

[@dalewilliams7801]

In my humble opinion, the graphics on the 20' Orca are way better than the graphics on this 21' Orca. Does anyone else share this opinion?

[@AngrySnowboarder]

But this one has a blow hole, which can prompt you to spray skiers then scream suck my blow hole!

[@dalewilliams7801]

@@AngrySnowboarder haha, that’s a pretty good one. Love your vids, you are very detailed in your description and offer a good, honest opinion. Way to be straight up, I value that a lot since I was legitimately considering buying this new board, but now I’m just gonna look for a good used 2020 model

[@marioguel6979]

This board rips. Wish I could try the other models in chunder as this one wasn’t as easy to ride through it than I thought. Was getting bucked around.... but then again who straight lines that shit? My mushrooms hit me hard and forgot to turn a few times. Other wise, THIS BOARD RIPS. Probably not for beginners but can be the next board for a beginner that wants to upgrade. Floated amazing in powder, and was VERY stable on landings. Butters actually pretty well and not as stiff as people make it out to be. Carves nice tight turns, and digs trenches on groomers. Am I a fanboy? I dunno what the fuck that is, so who gives a shit. This thing shreds. I’m 5’6”, 170 lbs, sz 9 boot and 150 was perfect. Could see 153 in AK. Maybe 147 on more mushrooms. Definitely an all mountain board with small limitations in park capabilities. It can boostie collins and it’s the hype. Who gives a shit what people say on the internet about this thing, peeps on the mountain love it.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Moral of the story kids: Don't do mushrooms and leave comments.

[@marioguel6979]

@@AngrySnowboarder mucho disagree on that too....booms for president

[@AngrySnowboarder]

^ Further proof kids, Mushrooms are not good for Internet commenting.

[@MrMountain707]

I'm glad they made it stiffer

[@JLPhoto246]

🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@lFirst]

keep seeing these in the midwest lmfao

[@coreyrobinson983]

It's marketed as more of a powder board. But it's actually a really versatile board for the Midwest. It floats well in powder when you get some. But it grips on ice better than most boards I've ridden. It's length also allows you to get more turns in on the small midwest hills. If you ride in the Midwest, especially at night, the 2020 orca is a great option.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Marketing is a hell of a drug.

[@jackharrop8932]

@@coreyrobinson983 lol 1 million boards id ride before i touched an orca. As a night rider, in southeastern michigan. IPP Honalee/Harrow are the two most fun decks I've ripped around the ant hill. My 155 ravine, also a good time to cruise through the park with. Mervin hype fucks people up

[@randallmarshall6068]

Angry got me on a 156 of these (all I could get was a 2021)for "icy moguls of death" - it doesn't have the force-choke grip of a 162 Revenant but it's a heck of a lot more maneuverable.

[@crookedcorey]

I have last years model orca, I personally like it better than this years model.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@steveishida5918]

I recently got last season’s model for a deep discount from a local shop. I rode it once so far, actually 6 days ago at Mt. High (Los Angeles) on a 15”-20” powder day, but being West Coast it was that wet and heavy powder. It floated well and can charge as hard as I’m comfortable with easily. Moderately fast tree runs was a blast. This board is making me want to upgrade bindings from Arbor Hemlock (which I bought from Kevin’s review couple years back) to Rome Black Labels and I also want stiffer boots to complete my setup. Too bad this La Niña winter is in full effect so far and limited travel options along with my paranoia of catching Covid is keeping me home a lot. God damn So Cal people not wanting to socially distance themselves or wear masks at the lift lines when I went to Mt. High....fuck those people

[@MG-sg2ci]

What size are you riding? I should have went to mt high last Tuesday, looked epic.

[@steveishida5918]

@@MG-sg2ci I got it in 147, I have a Yes Standard in 151 for my daily driver also. Mt High was cool though

[@KitesurfHatteras]

Sell your Orca and use the money to buy some good masks and play video games in your basement, safe from the dreaded little COVID virus. Sounds like safe fun. And more room for those of us out on the mountains. I never wear a mask and never plan on it.

[@Howardtrn]

I like to call it hot garbage. for 2021

[@daverupes7022]

Please to a rant on how people ride powder boards at tracked out resorts and think its deep when its packed snow under a foot of wet thick snow. Get these posers into the backcountry to ride actual deep snow

[@carterholt4806]

This is a board that people love to hate, so I wouldn't expect anything different out of this hipster

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Oh is someone upset that someone noticed the differences in the way one generation to the next rides. It's OK little guy someone can point out why the changes exist and why it doesn't ride the same and still not be outright just shitting on it.

[@carterholt4806]

@@AngrySnowboarder Hey dude, you don't have a to be a contrarian hipster all the time. Next time I see you at A basin I'll bring you a Princess Yum Yum.

[@AngrySnowboarder]

Oh yes it's so contrarian to talk about how changing the core to HP makes it stiffer taking away what was great about the board while raising the price. Sorry I only drink diet gluten gmo free ice water.