The 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R is the Most Off-Road Capable ADV on Sale Today (so I bought one)

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[@neizpiez]

Would love to hear your perspective on the best air filtration solution, as discussed over thousands of pages on advrider forum. Those who have ridden an 890r, understand why you bought another !

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

You did not mess up. We learn from your mistakes ;)

[@lapollamirko]

Absolutely not!! Great choice.

[@CWdirtbiker]

Honda doesn't appear to have imported Africa Twins into the US for close to 2 years now, so it wasn't really a choice. I think you should have gotten the Norden Expedition instead of the 890R, but I understand they are still very scarce & the KTM's are plentiful, so are being discounted right now.

[@bogoljubdjordjevic7528]

I was not hear how high are you in cm?

[@VintageSP]

Next video: Why I sold the KTM 890 Adventure

[@axellness]

Lol

[@tieoneon1614]

LOL exactly. The fun of having the latest/greatest KTM wears off fast the first time it leaves u stranded. Just at a dealer getting some tires swapped and he said that KTM isnt even asking questions about break downs or failures anymore, just send it in and they cover it

[@churchofbrap876]

​@@tieoneon1614seems to be more isolated to the 890 platform mostly

[@ChavsADV]

​@@churchofbrap876that's not true, I heard about the reliability issues first from 1090 and 1290 owners. The one thing about ktm. Owners is the atleast own up to.

[@drchristofor]

Hi Ian, I am really not into KTM Bikes (getting my Roctane in the few days hopefully). What I really like in your vlogs is that they are entertaining, informative and relaxing. Thank you !

[@CWdirtbiker]

I like how you add humor into your videos Ian. Like when you said you planned on keeping this bike for a few years. That was really funny😁!

[@bohicagaming4462]

Honestly I was really hoping for a Kove 450 video. One thing I can say about KTM though is they treated my mom amazingly when my dad passed away unexpectedly (He worked for KTM NA), they continued his pay until she got his life insurance and some other stuff for her that was extremely kind and going a step above and beyond. If they can treat customers even a quarter of the way they did her they'd hands down be the best company in the world customer service wise.

[@triguywon9938]

That 890 R is very enticing, everything about it says “Buy me” but I’m concerned about the reliability.

[@dusdroadadventures7978]

I have been a Guide for about 10 ish years. All sorts of personalities and bikes. What I have learned; All bike brands have breakdowns. We have recovered more broken Yamahas than any other brand. BMW riders pay a shop to work on their bikes Honda riders pay shop to work on their bikes Ducati riders pay a shop to work on their bike Triumph riders pay a shop to work on their bike. KTM most riders work on their own bikes. They ask social media for knowledge. Sure I’ve heard about cam issue however I havent experienced it nor have I spoken to someone face to face who has had the issue. If you have a 790/890 proper oil level is the top of the inner circle. Half way is low. The airbox suck change something, power plate or uni but change it ASAP. Expect every fastener to need locktite apparently KTM ran out about six years ago at manufacturing. Also like cars there’s a bike for everyone. I will never bust on anyone for their choice in bikes. Adv folks are the best people on earth hands down. Peace and keep the rubber side down. Keep in mind this is my personal experiences over a decade of guiding and speaking to hundreds and hundreds of adventure folks. Peace

[@k_plax]

Good choice on going with the R as you've evaluated the riding you do and what fits best. Plus its clear the 890 AR makes you laugh out loud so its the right decision. You hit the nail on the head at 16:50 as to how the 890 AR differs from the rest of the mid sized market. I don't think the 2023 models are having as many issues as the pervious 7/890s and I hear most of the QA pain points have been addressed so 🤞🏽🤞🏽

[@Slov_]

Moving to the 2023 890 ADV R from the 2018 1200 GSA was the best decision I've done in a while. I shed close to 150lbs moving to the KTM. The main reason I moved is the low COG that is kept between the two bikes, but the fuel is moved down load where the Boxer engine would be on a GS. That in addition to the less weight makes the KTM a dream off road. It's so confidence inspiring. The buffering case I can validate with my Krios Pro as well. With my Arai XD-4, it's not as bad at 6'1. Ear plugs are definitely required on this bike if you use a Krios Pro helmet. Your setup is very similar to mine: 1) AXP Black Skidplate 2) Vanashce Footpegs and Sprocket Cover 3) KTM Powerparts Clutch and break levers 4) Barkbusters 5) Double Take Mirrors 6) Arrow Decat 7) Wings Exhaust 8) Rottweiler Full Intake 9) Perun luggage rack I'd suggest getting The Goblin for the Reckless luggage system is super easy and convenient for setup and rigidity compared to the stock 2-3 straps near the beavertail. I love mine.

[@TerraMagnus]

Bikes are wonderful. All of them have some baggage. If they joy they offer exceeds the grief, then it’s not a bad bike. Enjoy your new KTM, Ian.

[@trock7198]

The engine sound and the chuckle at 11:09 just sold 50 more bikes…lol that was great

[@flap42000]

I rode the 901 Norden and Desertx back to back. The desertx was hands down better. The engine has so much character and the electronics are top of class. I’ve had BMW 1200 ADV, F800GS, HP2 Enduro and the Dersert X reminded me of a cross between the F800 and HP2 Enduro. Perfect for me!! I still own a 300 and 450 six days KTM, but. Ducati killed it with the X.

[@IdahoDualSport208]

It’s cool til you gotta change the air filter 😬

[@flap42000]

@@IdahoDualSport208 oh my gosh I need to undo the tank? I’ll see if I can run a pre-filter “sock” on a string for sandy/dusty days. Think of if like tear offs, or maybe a tampon? Both are proven designs.

[@gbner9991]

These really seem by far the most robust/crashable ADV bike currently, which I really like. All other models basically require 5KG+ of crashbars around them and it just looks like an afterthought. It's something the other manufacturers should really take a look at. Also the low COG seems really noticeable compared to my T7 when I sat on it at the dealer. I'm just not a fan of the stiff KTM suspension. I actually prefer my softer T7 in that regard, as I don't go that fast. I also prefer to sit a little more "inside" the bike for touring.

[@boudix5737]

I agree with you on the crash protection, but I disagree on the complain on the stif suspension on-road. There’s no other way to this, and you can’t have it both. (Unless you trough a ton of money against it and buy the close cartridge stuff from WP). I actually like the fact that you can feel the road, and it is free therapy for you muscles, sinds all those micro vibrations is actually very good for your body. I drove 8000 km on the 890-Adventure-R to Balkan and Greece. And I did not had any issues with the riding comfort on Road and defiantly not Off-Road. Stock saddle and Rally-pegs (with rubber inserts), and a spoiler for longer stretches on country roads.

[@justsomedude445]

never have put crash bars on any of my ktm/huskys honestly i dont think its needed , good bark busters and a luggage rack are good enough in my experience , you can , and most riders do i think , change the spring rates on whatever bike you buy to fit you and your size riding style ect that said KTM's stock WP suspension is hands down head and shoulders better than ANYTHING else on the market there is no argument against that sorry

[@creatingcalmwithchristy]

I 'll add my 2 cents. Been riding motorcycles for around 45 years now started out as a kid with dirt bikes. KTM is the best adventure bike for dirt. My problem with KTM is their reliability and customer service. Bottom line is I don't trust them not to break down. Which is a shame because otherwise I would have one. I went with the base model Honda Africa Twin for 14,500 $ you get a lot for your money and a bike that is reliable, takes regular gas and is just easy to live with. Is it as good as KTM 890 in the dirt I'd say no but in every other way I think its better. To me if your main thing is dirt and not much road get a dual sport.

[@Braapncamp]

Love when you laugh spontaneously, throttling the beast at the dirt road. Thats why we ride my friend and this bike is really fun to ride, fun and powerful performer. What could be better in this class to bring smiles 💪🤠🔥😁Happy Trails Ian 🍺🍺

[@elvispusley3515]

I just bought the same bike yesterday. Paid $17,888 with a 6 year warranty. 1 year Ktm and 5 year extra warranty. Thats pretty decent price. Except I’m keeping mine not selling it in a month😆

[@jerrykearns6344]

That's a good deal if they honor the warranty (not so good if they denote the entire bike as a "wear part"). I was looking at the CRF300L, but the price of this previously affordable bike has doubled with the Itchy Boots premium.

[@olliechristopher467]

If you like it that's all that matters. For me it's my Super Tenere all day long comfort for travel on/off road. For the terrain you are doing it's my Beta 498 dual sport. I'm of the opinion all these bikes that are over 450lbs are going to be a handful when things get out of balance and you have to pick them up off the ground.

[@MichaelJohnson-ct6jp]

We’ve been ktm fana forever and finally after buying an africa twin 1100 i’m never going back😅

[@roverroko306]

Norden Exp can do all that this bike can do and it’s better looking and way better on the open road and highway. So I don’t understand your reservation about the Husky. Just because you had the issues with the standard Norden cause you rode it where you shouldn’t have. But the Exp is just as capable as the R version

[@nawiribrahim]

Ride the Norden Exp and the 890Adv R side by side and you will notice significant differences and depending on your wants you will see one works for you more. I did this, loved both, but picked the 2023 890 Adv R.

[@grant31781]

I bought a 2022 890S with 1000 miles on it yesterday. It makes a great street bike. I swear it rails the corners better than the MT07 I have. Seat in the low position feels fine to me with a 30 inch inseam. It rides so much better on poor condition paved roads. Doesn't beat me to death like the MT07. The rider triangle is some much better as well. Cruise control is amazing!! It came with the stock windscreen and a taller one from a 390. I hate both screens as they vibrate my helmet. I am running no screen right now. It also came with a super tall madstad screen that works too good in the heat. When winter comes the Madstad will be nice.

[@sspirito3130]

Love the 890, but after so many KTMs, I would have gottent a Ducati Desert X

[@RideMoreNow]

I took one look at the Desert X and the vulnerable metal tank and it was a non-starter for me. I love my 22 890R, and like you am willing to make the reliability/performance trade off. I'm entering my sunset years of motorcycling and I don't want to compromise or cheap-out. There's nothing out there that offers more smiles per mile IMO. I've put more miles on mine in the last 4-5 months than any motorcycle I've had (39 to date).

[@roverroko306]

Yes there’s something out there now that’s even better the Norden Exp

[@robRobblah]

So what are the reliability issues these KTMs have?

[@ericjames7680]

@@robRobblah The 790/890 is a pile of garbage. The list of problems I’ve seen on these bikes is a mile long and growing by the day. - premature valve wear - premature cam wear - immobilizer failures - brake failures - rear shock failures - countershaft seal failures - coolant leaks - clutch lubrication issues - TFT display failures - Fuel tank venting issues - Fuel pump issues - Debris in fuel tanks - Single-cylinder startup problem that still has no cure - Cold-start issues - Airbox sealing issues - Numerous software problems (MTC failures, intermittent cruise control failures, ABS failures)

[@truss6282]

​@@robRobblahleaving you stranded

[@RideMoreNow]

@@robRobblah, well my rear shock blew out at less than 4k miles and 4 months of ownership. And my bike starts on one cylinder when cold. It also gets moisture in the TFT in certain weather conditions. There are various other more minor things some people have experienced, like coolant leaks, oil leaks, loose, head bearings, etc.

[@pmw350k]

I took a similar path, KLR650 --> Tuareg 660 --> 2023 890 ADV R. I took 2.5 turns out of the shock preload, raised the forks 5 mm. It's a beautiful thing!

[@hardyeleonore]

I was also considering the Desert X but the metal tank,higher center of gravity and then adding weight with crash bars changed my mind.Great review cant wait for more on your accessories,love my 890r.

[@leifiseland1218]

Hmm.. still waiting for your Norden Expedition test though..🤔🤨

[@Meldonator]

I really wonder if the HVA Norden Expedition isn't a better KTM Adventure R if I may say... anyway, the video and your insights are really interesting.

[@sanjosejeff]

Low front fender says it all

[@mrjay4000]

I was really interested in a Norden 901 until I sat on it. The foot pegs are too far back for me at 6'2". Sitting down, my toes were pointing down like riding a crotch rocket. Not my style. Maybe better for shorter riders but the Tuareg or Africa Twin feel much better. The 890 Adv foot pegs are forward more than 901 and it feels completely different and I guess as a dirt biker, it's what I'm used to as with my 690. Sitting on top feels more aggressive and capable, particularly for off-roading. To me, what the 890 needs most is a 2 piece extreme adjustable wind shield that can almost double in height for Highway. An adventure ready version with bells and whistles like the Expedition would be nice to.

[@ryanmalone2681]

All I want is a bike as comfy as my GSA with the nimbleness of a KTM 500 EXC. is that too much to ask for?

[@MrEtnorb]

In a word, yes.

[@craigwall8703]

Great content Ian I would have liked to have seen the Husqvarna 901 Expedition in the garage for something different but the KTM 890r is a most popular bike so I get it and its a ripper of a machine you can option up with an abundance goodies for channel.

[@mattjohnson3050]

looks like the right choice. I have the standard 2023 890. but I don't live around good riding and my ability for off road is minimal

[@big_petebear8535]

I bought myself one because of you. My first bike. I did some offroading on hard washed out "no maintenance" roads. I'm a brand new rider and, other than the weight, this bike is extremely capable offroad. A newbie like me can handle mountain roads that would bottom out most pickup trucks. I'm a tall guy well over 6'5" in boots and the stock seat is far to low. Seat Concepts set me up perfectly. Oh and it handles mud well too. I was riding through 2 foot deep puddle in the mountains and had zero issues

[@davidpoffenbarger3686]

This video convinced my my next ADV bike won't be the 890R. At 65, my off roading is more exploratory rather than at a race pace. The decision for me comes down to KTM 890 Adventure (base, not the R) or 660Toureg. By the time I sell my AT, I'll have made up my mind. At this point, I think the Toureg checks more boxes for me but the 890 is pretty cool too. To be honest, I think I'd be happy with either... at least until one of the gremlins pops up. As always, thanks Ian. I really appreciate your approach to testing ADV bikes, really clicks with me.

[@nighthawk695476]

Those two are my candidates as well! I test rode the Tuareg and found it lacking in torque (I'm used to a dorsoduro 900). That being said, so far it's so reliable and Aprilia has a 4year warranty in my country. The 890 on the other hand has a brilliant engine and would scratch that need for speed but I'm really hesitant cause of the various KTM gremlins i read on the internet... Let me know what you chose In the end!

[@boudix5737]

I,m 66 and for more safety Off-Road I bought the 2021 890 adventure-R. It eats dirt, and with that engine and suspension …. Mmm you easily find your self hammering it Off- and On-Road. I’m riding bikes for more than 50 years and this is the best bike I ever have ridden.

[@kannermw]

To me the whole term Adventure bike is a misnomer. Not many people have considerable free-time to take long trips away from work, family, or other obligations. If you are travelling on bike any significant distance other than simple day trip then you have at least 50 lbs of gear you are hauling around. That alone brings limits to what might be considered to be fun to ride off-road. Similarly, a smaller less road worthy bike travelling long distances onroad is drudgery not fun and not without risks including rider fatigue, bad weather, and higher risk of accident. An adventure bike makes most sense when you are 60 miles or less from quality off-road riding and you may only be able to afford one bike where you want some quality road riding experience. If it is further than this and you get injured or bike is unrideable due to failure or crash damage then it becomes a major effort for extraction and inconvenience for others. Ian's cracked 890 crankcase story is perfect example as his wife was not too far away to come rescue him. If I lived where Ian does than the KTM 890 is perfect solution in spite of it's questionable reliabilty because trailering short distances is impractical and unnecessary. IMO trailering a true off-road or dual sport bike to where you want to ride if it is longer distances away > 60-90 miles) is a much better solution than any ADV bike. You dont risk damaging very expensive and heavy bike and the off-road experience is much more enjoyable with less bad drama.. I have done the same for touring on Versys 1000 with my wife and that is definitely the ticket

[@tieoneon1614]

Exactly. I lived where he does for 8 years, its offroad/dual sport paradise there {i enjoy seeing him on the same trails i found...and like he doesnt tell where} And I fell for the whole ADV myth. Bought a new Tiger 800xcx and was driving 40-80 miles to desert or mountain trails. Then riding offroad a few hours exploring. THEN suffering the long ride home after u are tuckered out. I was 35 years old in great shape but absolutely exhausted/tired for a day or two after that. My biggest problem was I wouldnt turn around, tried riding the bike like a giant dirt bike like they are advertised as. A 500lb bike crashed on steep terrain is no joke, IF i wasnt a younger muscle head Id been stranded. Despite the danger of it, it just wasnt fun riding that big a bike on the places i wanted to go. I switched to trucking a lightweight plated dual sport, then went plated enduro and trucking to the desert/mnts was soo much easier and fun cuz I could actually ride how I wanted on a bike meant for it. AND i had a break down, wasnt real hard to get bike to truck without drama or calling anybody. I miss the desert, but dont miss the CA CrAzIEs out there. Upper MI and WI was always home the the woods dual sporting here is fantastic too.

[@TimeDemand]

@@tieoneon1614 I'm so with you on that. I currently live in SoCal (planning my escape) and trucking a plated DS is the way to go if you're really into off road. The plate opens up so many areas because of the BS red sticker stuff. The 890 looks tempting but I can definitely see getting into trouble off road, especially since I often ride by myself. My Beta 430 RR-S does everything off-road, is recoverable, and easily does pavement connections. The idea of riding any motorcycle through the LA freeways is not appealing.

[@jackchristodoulou197]

Couldn’t agree more well said

[@tieoneon1614]

@@TimeDemand I'd laugh at the hundreds of people at the offroad parks, and Id drive right past to the thousands of miles of BLM land that a plate {real, or not} allowed u to have to yourself. And riding by yourself is the best riding, I was a history nerd and found some incredible gold mines, cabins, railroad camps, native caves with drawings etc doing so. Was my favorite part of living there. And out of all the expensive bikes I had, recently i fixed up an old KLX400 {DRZ} as a winter project to flip for $ and ended up loving it. Somehow this thing is faster than my CRF450X desert bike I had out there

[@boudix5737]

The segment needed a name, so they called it Adventure. And if you seeking that the name is OK. To my opinion you don’t need an Adventure bike but a Dual-Sport or Enduro how we call it in Europe. So a big Street legal Off-Road bike. The second reason why you don’t need an Adventure bike is … because you plan you trip, and travel there with a > 30K$ Fan / SUV / or Puck-up, and trough you 10-15K$ on the back. So you already have the truck, witch is quite normal in the US, to have a 2e or 3e car. Or you have to find a excuse to explain to your wife to spend an other 20-30K$ for your hobby. 😂. But in Europe it’s not that common to do that, so we ride on the Tarmac switch to Off-Road constantly, if you are living in UK / NL / B / Germany etc, or you Drive to a country with lots of Off-Road roads like Spain or Portugal, Balkan countries, Greece, Turkey, etc. 3e I mostly do not plan other than a rough direction and explore, or I use the rough direction (still avoiding High-way’s and most of the big boring main roads) to go to a nice area with lots of Off-Road roads. On those trips I try to seek for the Adventure … but you can’t plan it, and if your lucky you find it. So that’s why I bought the 890 adv-r, and I love it for day trips … but it excels of multi day/weeks/mounts trips. Even with Mosko 80L reckless strapped to it.

[@squashdmouse]

I’ve had mine since March. I put Seat Concepts low seat then Motoz Tractionator desert H/Ts. The tires deleted the gain from the low seat. Lol! One issue, slow leak in the stock front tire, nothing else. Have fun, nice bike.

[@dengised321]

Glad you got another KTM! I'm just now getting my first servicing done on my new 890 Adventure and I've had no issues with it at all. It's been a blast to ride too.

[@tarms1650]

For this 2022 890 R owner with just over 10K miles on it, it makes the biggest smile every single time I ride it. Is it perfect? No, but the smiles keep coming.

[@ADV_Agenda]

You made the right choice!! I believe the preload is set too stiff from the factory , 3 turns out should cure the harshness.

[@boudix5737]

I did more or less the same, and it is still not bottoming out. And I did a test riding a known track with the worst potholes, no Issues an now fear that I could loose the bike. This is a a toy the reason why this bike is soo good. Let’s not forget the the tricky stuff is Off-Road not on Tarmac, that’s the easy part, and the only thing that could make it tricky is if you but on more Off-road biased tyres like 70/30 one’s … but Iif you do that you should know that it compromises on-road driving.

[@badbruise]

Do some install videos, be good to see you out in the garage as well

[@churchofbrap876]

Love how big rock calls out the keyboard warriors 😂

[@triggerlocks]

Nice! I just picked one up as well. After owning a 950 Super Enduro, 640 Adventure, 950 Adventure, a GS, a 1090 Adventure and an “adventurized” 500 EXC I have to say that right out of the box, this is the best Adv bike I’ve ridden. Best power to weight, best ergos for me, best suspension for my weight (190 loaded up). I am excited to get some long days in the saddle (if there is one criticism it’s the hard seat) on this bike. 👍

[@ddbtube2138]

At this point a thorough comparison vs Dessert X ve this bike is very needed Ian! Thanks for the content!

[@danstevens2204]

The fact that you can ride and speak while moving medium pace off road shows that you’re a far better rider than the videos show. I dream of riding some day in a place with no kangaroos 👍🏻

[@4tech69]

I've no issue with buffeting I also run a Krios Pro. But I'm also just not sensitive to that kind of stuff. It's a greet street bike as well. Even with the Mitas once they're scrubbed in. It's no super sport, but you can have lot of fun on the twisty's. I'm really happy with it so far.

[@WhatTimeIsIt369]

I wasn't "sensitive" to that kind of stuff either. And now I have suffered with non stop tinnitus for the last 20 years. It means something.

[@4tech69]

@@WhatTimeIsIt369 Your tinnitus is from not wearing ear plugs.

[@MrHamish54]

Great choice and comparison from the standard Adventure. I upgraded from a 2020 790 Adventure to the '23 890R. Love the upgraded suspension from the standard Adventure. Love the low center of gravity vs other midweight ADV bikes. Mitas tires were good for factory 50/50 tires. With my 28" inseam, switching to the low seat made the seat height perfect. I bleed orange. My other 3 bikes are KTM. However the clutch on the 790/890 is lacking to say the least. I'm on my 4th clutch pack in 11, 655 miles in 5 months using the clutching method the same as all of my other KTMs. I'm diligent on keeping 20 mm+ slack in the clutch lever. Getting better mileage on my Motoz tires than the clutch packs.

[@Baldhills]

Get a Recluse.

[@boudix5737]

You are doing something wrong with the clutch, I drove 20.000 km and had no issue with it other than tires and brake pads. I although ordered a clutch arm extension (AltRider one with 3 options) for the bike to have a little bit more friction zone for the technical stuff.

[@davidgrunklee8407]

You have a part number for that seat please?

[@Angry-Lynx]

That white orange paintjob is fuckin sexy, the best one, old ktm950 adventure also looked best with white color imo

[@papadougpapadougsadventures]

I have the 2021 890 Adventure R with the tech/rally pack. It’s a beast.

[@blizzard71]

Just bought the 2024 Rally ! love my KTMs !!

[@jasonchapman6058]

I'm a KTM guy, so of course you made the right choice! The reality is, as you said. Even if the 890R has shortcomings (though NONE of my KTMs/Husqvarnas , including a '20 790R, have ever left me stranded) nobody else has met the KTM standard of performance yet. BTW, I have a dealer near me that has a near new '23 DesertX (less than 200 mi.) for what seems like a low price. Let me know if interested and I'll help you connect.

[@UnicornMoto]

I tried the windscreen from the street version on the R and it helped a bunch.

[@ride4adventure]

I bought the 23 model in March and have been riding it hard since. I am 6'5" so the windscreen is fine for me with clean airflow on my helmet. Agreed the suspension is a bit stiff and hard at less than fast pace which can get fatiguing. I am 106kg and wound my suspension a few clicks past the comfort setting and found the sweet spot for my weight on and off road. Nice and plush without much fork dive on road and no bottoming out hitting washouts or rock steps.

[@christianmouraux7269]

I understand your comment regarding the 1290, but I owned both, and aldo the 890 is absolutely great, I must say that every thing works even a bit better with the 1290. The 1290 SAR is like a Cadillac pretty capable for off-road. Go for the 1290, unless you’re a bit short on budget or you really ride mainly off-road. Thanks for your videos, always very well done! 👍

[@Verknechter]

Switched from a 1290 SAS to a 890R. I have to say I somehow agree. The 890 is great but if I am honest it’s still too heavy for more than green lanes for me. The only difference is I can ride it much harder there than the SAS on this roads. On the street the 1290 is a different animal. Smoother, more powerful, better quality and features. (Brembo, keyless, hydro clutch, big TFT, tire pressure mon etc.) Maybe SAR is the answer. 😅

[@christianalsoe7389]

Dear Ian, Thank you for a great channel and always great reviews! I particularly liked you resent 890R review as I from 2022 to 2023 ‘’downgraded’’ from a 1290 to a 890R 2023 model. I LOVE the bike, having owned more than 30+ motorcycles in my 47 year life, this one is special. I struggled with the front end design and have therefore modified this with a RebelX tower + many other additions….. Pictures can be shared via email if desired for your inspiration and future mods to your bike :-) A few of the mods are; RebelX rally tower + sticker decals AxP skid plate Carpe Itre navigation devise (best on the planet!!) PowerParts; heavy duty wheels Dirt Star, hand guards, sprocket, frame plugs Vanache; fuel gap, chain guard engine protection, pegs Perun Moto; luggage rack, strap brackets (for Mosko Moto R80 > when traveling I also mount my Nomad ADV rack panels) SeatConcept high rally seat (+38 mm) with no ‘’bump’’ Twalcom license plate and indicator holder Rottweiler carbon air intake box and foam filter Acropovic exhaust Lithium battery (weight saver) Scottoiler The bike is now approx +10 kilos lighter and + 10-15 hp compared to standard, and ready for my upcoming trip in South America. I am having the bike shipped from Europe to San Antonio in Chile with estimated arrival on January 6th 2024 > ahead of me then is months of driving in Chile and Argentina - eventually ending up in Ushuaia…… Take care, drive safe and enjoy the best ADV ever build! Best regards from Denmark Christian

[@cuatropines9176]

So why not the Norden 901 Expedition?

[@theweirdestfamily]

Hi Sir, My name is Cosmo DiCiurcio I watch ur videos In the hospital I rode my entire life I nroke my femur bone and it got infected and ruined my heart vale I then had to have Open Heart Surgery but before that caught covid in the hospital then Pneumonia and they had a stick of needle into my armpit to drain my lung After heart surgery I had a breathing tube and then had to learn how to walk All over again went down to a Walker now a cane But I We'll ride again now I can't work have no money to get a boy haven't had a break in about 5 want the KTM adventure 890 are that I can't buy what you inspire me to keep trying Because of all these bikes you are so lucky to have I tried to be like you

[@DMoenBC]

Thanks for the video! I've had a '21 and a '23 890R. The changed valving makes the '23 a bunch more comfortable both on the street and the trail. The Mitas tires didn't last long on my bike, I found them to be borderline dangerous on our off road terrain. I went Motoz Rallz rear as you did, and paired it with the Dual Venture front. This did raise the ride height a bit, and made the ride a bit more stiff, but they are so confidence inspiring off road that the trade off is worth it. Looking forward to your "future content" regarding the dissasembly of the headllight. I still have to wire in my Quad Lock mount.

[@nunosantos47]

I was expecting to see a review on the 901 Expedition…

[@10001gunner]

You nailed that video with a BIG hammer and SPOT on with what the 2023 ktm Adventure R is really about. I originally started out on a 2022 Klr thought being "a good beginner bike" as I'm fairly new to the adventure seen. An amazing bike for sure and the price point superior to all, BUT lacking in many departments, I had 0 confidence on that bike. Upgraded to the 2023 ktm adventure R and WOW!!!!!!! is all I can say too that. Thanks for what you do.... all the time and effort really helps us all out.

[@gtpits]

They inhabit a strange world between dirt bikes and adventure bikes, but they are very uncomfortable and tiring on anything other than the roughest and fastest of tracks. Mine got a simple re-valve to make it a bit more comfortable on smaller bumps, makes a big difference. The rear spring is quite quite stiff and best for heavier riders so mine was swapped for one rate down and the bike is comfortable and capable.

[@markjones5235]

I really liked the end of the video with the sun in your face. Great camera made that quite beautiful! Great bike man.

[@thouseinthehouse]

KTMs look so nice but the fear of unreliability is real.

[@bobz1736]

I love reviews on KTMs and admire many things about them ... but I'd never buy one !

[@analyticalmastermind2569]

Hey Ian. I think the DesertX is a rad bike but I don't know about all the dealer trips for every little thing. I like the 890R and it seems to be a good fit for your riding style. Your Champ school video was epic and I watched the whole thing. I appreciate the filming and would be stoked if you could get back out there without the burden of having to film. Seems like a lot of cool guys in that org. Have a good one.

[@lapollamirko]

I was wondering why you still didn't buy for yourself a KTM 890 R and as per magic here you go!! I believe is the best ADV midsize bike you can buy very off road oriented. Congrats, I definetely LOVE IT!! Kepp coming good content, i enjoy your channel. P.S. I am gonna buy that too very soon.

[@Menz890]

Your kick stand bounces around because of bolting on a larger foot, ktm spring is to light. I machined material off the tusk in hope it does not bounce around.

[@foxtailadventures]

Hi , we just picked up a set of 890r,s. Im.5ft6 with a 28 inch inseam so as bad as i hated to do it i lowered it and inch internally. then had our suspension shop revalve it for our type of riding and i could not be happier with how the bike actually preforms. It handled everything we threw at it. It feels like a completely different bike that our 2021890r,s .

[@keyboarddancers7751]

That 'R' seems like all the bike you'll ever need.

[@etruscanadv3296]

I really like your reviews. I'm waiting to see if you are going to review a 1290 adventure in the future. The 2023 model has a much lower fuel tank with respect to the previous ones.

[@thomasbrun8695]

I’ve owned a R1250 gs, KTM 1090 and a T7. All with expensive after market suspension. The limiting factor on all of those bikes was the same. If you go as fast as the suspension allows and ride the bike off road ….your going to get flats. Allot of them. Tire tears and pinches. I’m finding myself moving towards the 390 to 500 cc bikes for ADV use because of this. Cover all the slab in the van to get there. Then launch the little bike. Good luck with your new bike 🙏👍

[@BigRockMoto]

Well said!

[@RedRupert64]

I found the 890AR's suspension far too harsh and it didn't soak up the bumps as I wanted, so I've spent a fair bit on TracTive suspension from the Netherlands. Its far more sophisticated and enables me to ride the bike faster in all conditions.

[@erichagen8053]

I think you can't live without the KTM. I sat on a regular 890 Adventure, and it blew me away on how light it felt. The seat height on the low setting was good for my 5'4" frame too. I'll have to sit on the "R" version and see how that compares. As long as I can get a tip toe down, I'm fine. I'm seriously considering selling my R125GSA low for the KTM 890.

[@roverroko306]

So why not buy the Norden 901 expedition. Just as good in terms of components and way better looking than any KTM. That is the bike I am gonna buy comes spring time.

[@henryvaneyk3769]

I have a friend that used to ride the older 790 Adventure, and bought the 901. He says that the 901's suspension is too soft and definitely not as good as the 790's suspension, needless to say the 890 suspension is even better.

[@gawmich]

You have a dream garage, even this specialized ebike smiled to me from the 3rd plan.

[@ggs0605]

Please add an accessories video for us newbies! Why this accessory, possible alternatives, etc. Thank you!

[@MrNolanmoser9109]

This is why motorcycle companies should offer leasing like cars since none of us seem to hold on to them for long lol

[@MisterQ007]

KTM are really great offroad bikes. I been thinking about an 890 and a 350 exc-f myself. currently have a 2017 Honda AT, 2023 Yamaha WR250F, 2006 Honda CBR600RR. I either day ride 300-500 miles of 80% pavement 20% forest roads on the Honda AT or offroad parks with the WR or track days with the CBR600RR. I feel like the KTMs would be better offroad but crap on long pavement rides and obviously more expensive. Looking to potentially add a Honda 300 rally with a spring change for a street legal mild dirt bike for BDR trips. I'm in Atlanta. 73 inches tall, 210 lbs. planning to do BDRs in the rockies summer 2024. feel like a sub 350# bike would be better for 10-15 days of BDR riding rather than my 500+ lb Honda AT (not sure of current weight with crash guards and skid plate). NOTE: super tough not to have multiple bikes

[@tigerking2179]

I really love mine. Other than cold starting issues, I have not had any problems. The cat bypass helped the cold starting issues a lot. Think I am going to go to a lithium battery as well. I also put the taller, orange, offroad seat on mine as well, but I am very tall and the stock seat felt low to me. Have fun, they are awesome bikes.

[@easy4steve]

Hi Ian another good video , im riding my 2022 ktm 690 r and enjoying it , so its good to see the 890 rated well in your books , keep up the good work Steve/Geraldton W.Australia

[@adampotter9151]

23 890R is an awesome bike. Love mine! Can't go wrong with it for an adventure bike that can do both on and offroad both equally.

[@droommotor]

Well I can give you a little info on what I did. I placed an order for an 890R 2023.. and decided to sell my Ducati Desert X. After 5000km on it mostly off-road the Ducati had 0 issues. Hopefully the 890 will also be reliable. I always hated the look of the 890 until the new plastics from this year. It makes sense now. But the main reason is that is ride so much easier off-road especially in tight and technical terrain. The DDX is very good but the KTM is better.,. Wish me luck 😮

[@lukefish7562]

Nice and congrats Ian! I have it’s sister bike in the Norden 901 Expedition and couldn’t love it more after 5600 miles. I know you’ve owned many already but can’t wait to see what you say about the new one. And I really hope one day you’ll get a 901 Expedition and compare it to the 890 Adventure R and tell us how it stacks up. Please. Enjoy that new beast and again congrats!

[@SileX406coup]

Regarding the buffeting. That was the reason I skipped the 790R in 2020. Maybe switch the screen to the flyscreen of the SMT! I also prefer having my head completely in the wind than tucked away behind a windscreen.

[@Chancesarefew1222]

If you're tall enough for this bike. But for a 5 foot 7 like i'll pass.

[@DirtRidingLarry]

I'm 5 foot 6 and ride an old 950 adventure which has a a higher seat height. Just do a little seat shaving magic and it's good to go!

[@bnblazer]

Thank you so much for all you do on your channel. I just discovered you a couple of months ago, and I love your content. I would really love it if you could do a review on the Ural GearUp! You can even use mine if you want!

[@mathias6423]

Except for issues with KTM's reliability on several bikes for me and my friends this bike I think is one of the best if you want your adventure bike to be able to do some serious off-road work. ' When I tried this bike on some light off-road riding on fire trails and such it felt a lot like a heavier, more comfortable version of my 690 Enduro R, so I love me a bike like this one. I do not remember the 890 R i rode had cruise control, it looks like this one in the video has it, is that standard now or an optional extra ? If I knew this bike would have the reliability like the Japanese bikes I would already own it. If you are riding like most adventure riders and almost never take your bike off-road I would go for something else. If you want a KTM the standard 890 Adventure fits most "Adventure" riders better than this R version, as mentioned in the video and as I have found, there is not another adventure bike as good off-road as this one. BigRockMoto At least for the first gen 890 adventure R there was the MRA Touring Windshield that was a great bit taller, if they still do a windshield for the 2023 model I would recommend that you try that one out. It is quite at bit taller though so It might be in the way when you are standing up leaning forward, you have to try it at least I think. I would love to try the Desert X , I could not own a Ducati as it is though, their service prices are just ridicolous.

[@OoavastoO]

Without trying to sound completely ignorant, if this is more off-road biased in set-up, performance and feel and is going to be used primarily for aggressive/technical off-road use compared to tarmac (maybe a 75 - 25% ratio off-road to on road? I’m guessing), why not just save a whole lot of money and get a road legal dirt bike and keep the 890 for a more well rounded ADV? The dirt bike can be set up for long haul off-road adventures fairly easily without compromising the off-road capabilities to any significant amount. Then you would have a fairly well rounded ADV for touring and a purpose built off road thrasher.

[@bmwbob51]

I had a 21 890 Adventure R and loved the engine but the high speed damping sucked! The front end would beat me up on sharp edge bumps and tried to have the first few incheches of travel softened up without success. I sold it and bought another BMW GS because I'm not a serious off roader. I wonder if they fixed the high speed damping?

[@leanit5756]

Nice to hear someone else finally say that. Mine was a 22 if I recall, but it was the same. The fork could not tolerate sharp edged bumps. The tire would just violently deflect, even loosened up. It was on quite bad. It was also susceptible to head shake, both after hitting sharp edges at speed, or at high speed on asphalt. I had the front wheel trued, which did have excessive runout, but it didn't help. I traded off the KTM and have a T7 on order. After owning 8 new KTMs, I have no plans for another.

[@bmwbob51]

Steering head loosened up on mine causing head shake. Loved the engine though! @@leanit5756

[@damytzeus]

same reasons that i have four ktm bikes. ktm makes the best bikes for how i ride.

[@DcCock]

""why do you keep buying more KTMs?"" I'm glad you have. You've had the Norden 901, the 890 adv, adv rally, and now the R. Nobody else has the expertise you do when it comes to these bikes. All you need now is the 901 Norden Expedition and you'll have had all the 890 adventure variants. I'm a little surprised the 890 Duke hasn't come out in your street bike test videos. I used to dream about getting one of those and then when the time came for me to get my 2nd bike, I sat on it and my ass immediately hated the saddle so I checked it off my list.

[@screwymatt]

I just bought mine yesterday knowing I may be gambling with reliability but after selling my Rubicon and having to drive a commuter car I needed something I could go up in the mountains on but also go out to the local ORV park and have fun.

[@themanjs]

No, you did not mess up at all, this KTM is lighter too than the desert X , and if you ask me, it looks better, grats on this very good and beautiful bike man :)

[@mikehayes77]

Love your channel, always watch your new videos with interest. I would really love to see you test and hammer the 901 Expedition, then do a road trip to another dirt area and hammer it again. Your opinion on answering if the 901 Expedition is the best adventure bike for 90% of 890 Adventure R owners would be appreciated. It’s a glorious time to be an ADV rider with so many excellent choices available!

[@MattBrownShow]

You need a better mic. Otherwise cool video. Also, you really should consider hating on KTM's. They're the biggest selling adv motorbike globally and wouldn't be the case if they had all these reliability issues you speak of. I've owned several and had ZERO problems.

[@Jeredsmith]

If my eyes are seeing right you should take that MT09SP in the back of the garage out and make a video(unless i've missed it) and put some knobbies on it and take it on smooth off road paths. I've seen some people running fz09/mt09 with some slightly aggressive tires and looks fun in the dirt and loose stuff.

[@elanchezhiyan292]

Brother ur fantastic doing good job all the best

[@crabmanbc21]

I don't see anyone asking the questions , so I will. This is a very off-road capable machine but how in the hell is the fuel tank not a liability on the trail? It looks like it's the first thing to hit the ground in a fall, also how easy to puncture it with a stick or rock while riding. So now you are out on the trail and it breaks down how do you access the Engine? The fuel tank wraps around the entire motor. Won't that hold heat in on the motor and boil the fuel? I like the bike a lot aside from the fuel tank design. YES I GET IT, LOWER CENTER of GRAVITY. I would be afraid to ride off-road for fear of damaging the fuel tank, there has to be a better way.

[@Lambros-A.]

Hi there! First thing I need to say is that you ll buy the bike that makes you feel good and happy. Besides that we all know and it s not a secret that KTM's have issues,but on the other hand,are fun. To me,buying this one was a surprise. I was positive that you would go for the new Norden 901 with all the cool updates.Thought that it would be the next best choice for your type of riding. Can't wait to see if there's another surprise! Have fun and safe miles! Keep up the great work!

[@mfranquemont1884]

Ian- I enjoy your channel. I bought a used 2022 890 adv r largely from watching your reviews. Couple questions; 1. do you run any aftermarket intake/exhaust components? 2. Could you list all mods you have done (and maybe ones you are planning). 3. If you were taller and/or longer inseam would you consider adding rally suspension? (I’m 6’2” with 36” inseam). 4. Ever entertained adding Woodys wheels? 5. Favorite tires?

[@JamesMorgan2]

If you look at his 890 Adventure videos he talks through a lot of the mods he's done, and as he stated, he'll be bringing these over to this bike (excluding suspension). Wings is the exhaust he bought for the 890. I've also just bought one of these and will install it after my trip away. They seem to be really really well made for the price.

[@paoloforti3762]

Actually the very most off road capable adventure bike you can buy today (if lucky enough go get one) is the Rally version of this 890 Adventure R. 2024 version was launched during HAT adventure event one weekend ago 😊

[@DAXCafeRacer]

Amazing video 👏🏻😎 🏍️

[@mototrailz]

Quick tip: hold for at least 2 seconds the down arrow button when being in rally mode and slip level goes directly to 0. Then click the up arrow button just briefly and slip level goes back to whatever setting you had previously. This can be done on the fly 👍. Very handy

[@justsomedude445]

we buy KTM's because they just OWN the market performance wise , hands down and by a margin !!... i wish my local ktm dealer had a good service department as the next one is 3hours and 2mt passes away which is why i had to buy a Husky 901 instead but the 890"R" i knew was a better fit for me , had a 1090r , 990 , 690 prior , the Expedition model was not even mentioned yet when i bought so i had to go aftermarket to 'fix' the 901's suspension , with the Tractive Extreme its great though... im running Motoz Rallzz as well

[@louispaulter8733]

Wish you could review / buy a 2023 Kawasaki Versys 300X which I think is the Best Buy High Value Adventure Bike for the money, It is more street oriented but with a few mods like a skid-bash plate, Bark Biter Hand/lever guards , off-road mirrors, etc. It be would a fun explorer bike for mild double track jeep trails, easy non-technical single track trails, fire roads, etc. I think you would find it a great 1 & done beginner adventure machine. In any case, keep the reviews coming, they’re the best complete fun format for reviewing bikes I’ve found on KZbin. PS As of 9/3 there hasn’t been a good review for the Honda ADV 160 scooter, - with your review format that would be REALLY INTERESTING !!!