The 2024 Honda Prologue Is The Chevy/Honda Half-Breed You've Been Waiting For. Seriously!

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@arbitrary76
@arbitrary76 7 ай бұрын
Well done Honda for not going crazy with the styling. Very clean exterior looks, with a more conventional interior than the Tesla. We have a Model Y and a CR-V, and I could see my other half preferring the Prologue to the Y for its conventional controls. I wish the Prologue had a 40/20/40 split rear seat and faster charging, but other than that I really like it.
@jeffbrooker5183
@jeffbrooker5183 7 ай бұрын
The Elite version is very attractive. I love the teal color. I like the more normal look of the car. I just wish the price wasn't so high.
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 7 ай бұрын
Then buy a pre-owned one with low mileage which can save a lot of money considering how fast EVs depreciate these days. I would not go for AWD but instead prefer the longer range, lighter, less expensive vehicle. The Honda warranty should be still active to feel comfortable.
@armandomolina2034
@armandomolina2034 4 ай бұрын
Don't let the price deter you. The yearly cost will be about the same as other, less expensive-ICE cars when you factor in fuel cost and maintenance.
@Richey24
@Richey24 7 ай бұрын
Alex really is the best car reviewer.
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 7 ай бұрын
Way better than the Kyle Connor bash fest
@freeaccess5905
@freeaccess5905 6 ай бұрын
@@markfitzpatrick6692 exactly. Alex describes features as they are with less Tesla bias than many other reviewers. Alex impressed me a while ago when he went into depth describing the technical differences between the Toyota and Honda hybrid systems. One of the reasons why I bought a 2023 CRV hybrid.
@StephRich888
@StephRich888 Ай бұрын
I totally agree to the point I subscribed to the channel
@Mamo878
@Mamo878 7 ай бұрын
Great point about the Prologue having CarPlay, whereas the Blazer intentionally left it out. Wtf was GM thinking?
@GeorgeKnighton
@GeorgeKnighton 7 ай бұрын
What they were thinking is data mining and reducing licensing costs, I guess. It's hard to get data while complying with Apple's restrictions.
@JohnSmith-bt4lf
@JohnSmith-bt4lf 7 ай бұрын
They want you to pay for their data plan instead of using your existing phone plan for free.
@Mamo878
@Mamo878 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-bt4lf But if you buy another make of vehicle precisely because GM does _not_ include CarPlay, GM makes exactly ZERO dollars from a data plan and data mining. Not to mention a lost sale of the entire vehicle, plus service, plus parts, etc. over the life of the car.
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-bt4lfexcept their cars come with 8 years of data free.
@GeorgeKnighton
@GeorgeKnighton 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-bt4lf : I don't know how much the GM costs, but Ford and Tesla are only 10.00/month. It is hard to imagine that as a serious revenue stream, and I'm still guessing (I admit "guessing") that it is a data mining ploy to which Apple will not agree.
@tobykunta2687
@tobykunta2687 7 ай бұрын
Sir Mix A Lot reference👋👋
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
4:55 12:06 12:07 14:53
@MoneyMaples
@MoneyMaples 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lionintu
@lionintu 3 ай бұрын
LmaaaoooOoo
@Enhydra_l
@Enhydra_l 7 ай бұрын
Worth noting that while gas powered GM vehicles tend to be a bit… patchy on reliability, their EVs are historically quite good. Bolt EV was a remarkably reliable car (speaking from personal experience), the battery recall is the one blemish and that wasn’t GM’s fault.
@chriso5774
@chriso5774 7 ай бұрын
Volt and Bolt are solid, but the Lyriq is loaded with software bugs and quality issues, even after two years. If Honda can make a reliable bug free vehicle using the same GM components, then that’s a double shaming on GM!
@GeorgeKnighton
@GeorgeKnighton 7 ай бұрын
Sure, I'd think about it if I were in the market. No software bugs, includes CarPlay 2? Over a Blazer EV? Sure, I'd definitely buy the Prologue before I bought a Blazer EV. :-)
@vishaldev13
@vishaldev13 7 ай бұрын
Also, the BZ4X is such a low bar to set. ;)
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, and no disrespect to Honda, but that's truly the Prologue's most direct competitor. Honda shoppers seem to rarely cross shop other brands.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
For DC fast charging please add 10 to 80% charging times..... Since peak charging rates are very misleading. Personally I prefer charging curve but that would just confuse those people.
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck 7 ай бұрын
It's maybe a little early to know what that will be on the production model - but this is a GM Ultium system, so expect it to perform like others: Lyriq, Silverado EV, Blazer, Equinox, etc.
@alaind831
@alaind831 7 ай бұрын
I think you mean 20-80%. Yeah Tesla I only get 254kw for a very short time from 20% tad longer from 14% which been my lowest so far.
@cdbuiles
@cdbuiles 7 ай бұрын
Alex I am shocked =) you didnt mention the now-rare turning ligths in *amber* on this vehicle.
@amigajoe
@amigajoe 23 күн бұрын
Amber should be the ‘norm’ !!
@Unchainedmaple888
@Unchainedmaple888 7 ай бұрын
I'd much rather have a HR-V hybrid. The rest of the world already has that in the form of the ZR-V, don't know why Honda is so slow to bring it to America
@xzimxzim
@xzimxzim 7 ай бұрын
In 2016 when I bought my HR-V. I was hoping Acura would have brought the CDX over from Japan. It was hybrid 7 speed DCT and I think it even had SH-AWD. Probably would have really boosted Acura sales when the sub-compact market was really taking off.
@f181234
@f181234 7 ай бұрын
That’s a Completely different car
@xzimxzim
@xzimxzim 7 ай бұрын
@@f181234 the second gen HR-V is the same as the ZR-V. The first gen HR-V had an Acura version called the CDX in china.
@hayduke4589
@hayduke4589 7 ай бұрын
Subaru has been selling a hybrid Forester in Europe for years now. Stellantis sells dozens of EV models in Europe. Ford sells a PHEV Ranger in Australia. You have to ask why not here?
@michael.sierra
@michael.sierra 7 ай бұрын
So basically the Blazer EV with more conservative styling and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. I think this one is a winner!
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
Definitely would choose this over the Model Y.
@thejinn99
@thejinn99 6 ай бұрын
My guess is that divider there in the middle is for support since that under area seems pretty wide. You could use something sturdier as a cover, but I suspect the cover may be heavy enough already, especially if you need it lift it without removing stuff off of the cover first.
@yo.adrian
@yo.adrian 7 ай бұрын
The small rear wiper blade is so small - it looks like a dog wagging its small tail. I mean, it's better than not having a wiper at all (because vehicles now come with rearview cameras as a standard safety feature nowadays) but that's only clearing the middle part of the rear window and not closer to the edge.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
agreed.... That was almost laughable.... but I bet it wouldn't be that difficult to retrofit a longer one.... Just a thought....
@SueC56
@SueC56 6 ай бұрын
I think the wiper blade is limited by the short height of the rear window.
@yo.adrian
@yo.adrian 6 ай бұрын
@@SueC56 I had a 2004 Mazda3 hatchback, and the rear window wiper was larger than this small SUV's rear window wiper.
@michaelgarvin8621
@michaelgarvin8621 7 ай бұрын
I like that the prologue has apple carplay and android auto and is a good looking car 👍
@kpmmsupervision1297
@kpmmsupervision1297 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see Honda getting into this segment.
@Bestfriend-650
@Bestfriend-650 4 ай бұрын
I saw it in person yesterday and was very impressed by the design.
@rollmann00
@rollmann00 7 ай бұрын
Alex, your wording on your reviews on these cars is exceptional! Especially physics based wording. Meaning, most people don’t understand how Cg plays a role at highway efficiency. Great review as usual! This and the Y are on my future (maybe) buy list. In the end, efficiency is king in EV’s so while I think this is a great vehicle, the model Y wins in my book, except no apple car play and regen options for gliding (which is more efficient as you so eloquently pointed out in previous video) pending driving habits. Keep up the great work! And all done well, in the rain!!!!
@freeaccess5905
@freeaccess5905 6 ай бұрын
I have test drove a Model Y and it has a very cheap and not user friendly interior. The Prologue has real buttons and controls you can use without having to go through the large screen. It has a much quieter, smoother ride. It reminds me of my old Audi Q5 virtual cockpit with having the navigation maps/directions on the screen in front of the steering wheel. A very useful feature while driving in heavy traffic in strange cities. Remember, Tesla overstates everything, their Cr may be less but their efficiency is not really better. Tesla is very expensive to insure. In my eye the Prologue wins hands down.
@evolv.e
@evolv.e 7 ай бұрын
Honda did great. Only thing it needs now is a front trunk and NACS access to be a competitive SUV.
@abdelbolanos
@abdelbolanos 7 ай бұрын
Alex has the magic for doing car's review s ❤
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 7 ай бұрын
Alex, Is this the Epilogue of the Honda/GM EV partnership? 🤔😉🤣
@garyrussell5373
@garyrussell5373 7 ай бұрын
Maybe the Apotheosis
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
GM and Honda have partnered before. “This has all happened before and will all again”.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
8:39 9:00 9:17 9:23 "All-new *_Honda Motocompacto,_* a fun, fresh take on e-scooters, redefines affordable all-electric personal transportation with sleek and simple styling, an innovative, ultra-compact foldable design, and an MSRP of just $995." Nov 1, 2023
@thejinn99
@thejinn99 6 ай бұрын
Idk about you guys, but I'm digging the rain. I mean, it sucks for Alex, but it's kinda refreshing.
@JustAnotherPoorSlob
@JustAnotherPoorSlob 7 ай бұрын
Headlights in the tablet are fine until you're out at night and realize that your valet didn't realize they were automatic and turned them off.
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald 7 ай бұрын
That intro felt like kissing Honda's backside. This is expensive, even by EV standards and having GM as that basis of the platform is scary. I would take a base model EV9 over this. With the Model Y below 40 grand, it makes it hard to pay so much more for this.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
Whether or not it is good for a specific buyer is a matter of personal preference, I am simply explaining why it happened and why it's good for Honda. I also personally think it's just fine. Whether or not it'll be a "good idea" in the end we'll have to see. It'll depend on how many they make and can sell and whether or not anything bad goes down afterwards.
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald 7 ай бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I get not wanting to offend Honda, but what the Savage Geese for what appears to be more consumer helping video. Same press event you were at, but not so fluffy. There are ways to tone things down so you sound less fluff and more informative. Automotive media is a political beast that is not easy to manage.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
With all due respect this channel is not about offending or not offending a particular car brand.... It's about presenting the facts as objectively as humanly possible...... Tone is not the channel's forte.... For those fixated more on tone and melodrama... Good luck finding an appropriate channel via a wild goose chase or is that a Savage Geese chase?
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, apparently you wanted him to lick the backside of Tesla or Hyundai. Sorry if you can't handle an opinion different than yours. Sorry if you are a snowflake.
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald 7 ай бұрын
@@trumpisastump9382 Watch the Savage Geese or Out of Spec, both were less fluffy. They were all at the same press event.
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck 7 ай бұрын
I guess I'm excited... but I think this is still a real "wait and see" for me. I like the Ioniq 5, and I don't think I'd touch any other BEV at this point until things shake out over the next 2-3 years.
@mwwhatever
@mwwhatever 7 ай бұрын
Glad they put the charging door in the CORRECT location, not on the rear bumper or at the back of the vehicle or on the passenger side
@Zhenocnra
@Zhenocnra 7 ай бұрын
If I had to choose right now between the Model Y and Prologue, it would be the Prologue. I cannot stand not having an instrument cluster. I like physical buttons where they are supposed to be on the Prologue instead of having to fuss with a screen of menu within menu on the Model Y. I really do not like the jelly bean look on the Model Y as well. The rear wiper is a bit too small on the Prologue but it's better than no rear wiper. The shifter on the column on the Prologue is a negative for me (I know, more space saved) since it's not where I want it to be. I agree, headlights on auto are the norm for me so it doesn't bother me with the Prologue. I like sentry mode and the bigger rear seats on the Model Y but the negatives from the Model Y for me just make the positives from the Prologue that much more better. I don't live in CA and I don't road trip ever either so charging isn't much of an issue for me. However if I'm going to pay almost 70k for the Elite trim, I would just spend more and get an EV9 GT-Line at that point. You might as well at that price point. Faster charging, much bigger, etc. The firmer EV9 suspension isn't a plus for me but the EV9 checks more boxes for me than the Prologue (and even more so than the Model Y). The federal tax credit doesn't apply to my situation so it doesn't matter to me that the Kia EV9 currently doesn't get it (or half even when the production moves to the US).
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
I'm not a Tesla fan but you can get aftermarket instrument clusters for the MY.... Which I'm hoping will happen for the Volvo EX30....
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 7 ай бұрын
The Elite trim is $59,000, not $70,000.And with the $7,500 tax credit it is about $51,500 for the top trim level (Elite).
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 7 ай бұрын
But the Tesla has a big price advantage. You can get a new Model Y long range for $41K (including the $7500 federal tax credit).
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
Prologue has a big price advantage, which also gets the full tax credit.... Once you add in all the Elon nickel and dime fees ..
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 7 ай бұрын
@ What is the price on a Prologue? And do they exist? A autotrader check within 200 miles of Dallas TX turns up zilch. Plenty of Tesla Model Y's available for immediate delivery on their website. The biggest advantage the Tesla has is the NO Dealership nickel and dime fees! Literally sign and drive off the lot.
@Nick2JZ
@Nick2JZ 7 ай бұрын
Definitely not in my driveway! Not pure Honda made, too expensive, design okay......I rather have Tesla model Y Performance.
@masterpau1
@masterpau1 7 ай бұрын
Hi Alex, how is this "one of the best values" and "less money" from your opening statement? Starting price of ~$48k and doesn't qualify for tax credits seem to make this much more expensive than the Tesla Model Y ($42k), Ford Mustang Mach-E ($40k) and even Chevy's own Equinox EV ($35k).
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
It does qualify for the full $7500 just like Blazer.
@fromroots
@fromroots 7 ай бұрын
Sigh, I was expecting a better EV from Honda. Looks like Japanese automaker’s aren’t putting their best efforts in bringing great EVs to the market. Too preoccupied with ICE old habits?
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck 7 ай бұрын
Weirdly, Honda has decent models in other markets. I think it's a symptom of the US tax treatment, and the "Americans Only Like Monster Trucks and SUVs" mentality.
@fromroots
@fromroots 7 ай бұрын
@@FuncleChuck The same Americans are buying Model Ys in droves
@fromroots
@fromroots 7 ай бұрын
Honda is facing challenges in China too. Sorry missed adding data for context. Honda's China marketshare trend: 2021 7.63% (1,542,227 units sold); 2022 6.74% (1,393,287 units sold). 2023 (up to July) 5.04%. Big challenges from rising domestic brands and changing consumer preferences. (Honda is still popular but struggling). Note: Why China? Because the largest and growing auto market.
@randymcnaught5583
@randymcnaught5583 7 ай бұрын
We used to say: Co-operate to Graduate. I think this has taken the best of the 2 manufacturers. Kudos to GM & HONDA. Manufactures do need to get their price points lower though. Only the rich survive.😊
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
The sir mixalot reference killed me. 🍑
@MattK-xs4hx
@MattK-xs4hx 7 ай бұрын
Seriously!
@richeastmain4031
@richeastmain4031 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I don’t want any vehicle that Chevy had a hand in.
@davdidit6
@davdidit6 7 ай бұрын
Shoes match the interior, well played Alex. Attention to detail, that is why you are my favorite reviewer. Also, the dead pan jokes.
@ljpr360
@ljpr360 7 ай бұрын
GM has a history of electrical issues. Why trust them with an EV? The Trailblazer EV is so bad they had to do a recall & stop sale.
@LuisFernandezStudio
@LuisFernandezStudio 10 күн бұрын
How do you open the trunk from the inside? How much will the electricity bill in the house will raise?
@WaltANelsonPHD
@WaltANelsonPHD 2 ай бұрын
Prologue not Blazer. Prologue Elite. Use it around town. Charge at home. Savings on gasoline (net of electric charging) will never justify the price, even after tax credit. So, you could buy the Prologue because you like it.
@hiromihonda9424
@hiromihonda9424 7 ай бұрын
As a 30yr Honda owner, the biggest attraction of a Honda is that it is not an American. It's a different and better approach to car making for Honda and the Japanese. A much greater focus on quality and reliability are hallmarks for the Japanese. A Honda built on GM architecture will have GM quality and reliability which is much worse than Honda. Buying a Prologue defeats the purpose and main attraction of Honda and Japanese cars. If I want a GM EV, I will just purchase a Chevy or Cadillac. Prologue and ZDX and stopgap measures and will be forgotten quickly once Honda starts building their own EVs. Many customers are uninformed and buy cars solely on looks and styling. Honda is banking on customers not doing their homework or not caring. But if they are expecting Honda ownership experience, they will be very disappointed.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 6 ай бұрын
I am very disappointed in your response.
@denault3985
@denault3985 7 ай бұрын
It's a one and done product (the GM and Honda partnership has ended) but it sill looks great.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 7 ай бұрын
After a year or so with all that shiny black plastic, I'd be tempted to take some 0000 steel wool and give it a good swirl. If the fingerprints weren't bad enough, the scattered scratches completely kill the deal. Don't know why so many car designers make this choice. Car overall looks good to me. Not entranced by the range vs price though. I'm not yet willing to consider "sleek and sexy." Like the box and the width. Shed a tear for the (lack of) performance.
@antongalazyuk3117
@antongalazyuk3117 7 ай бұрын
It's kind of shocking that this tops out significantly higher than an Acura RDX. That's where it loses me, why buy this over an Acura? I look at these early EVs as competing with ice vehicles and they are just not even close yet.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 6 ай бұрын
Sorry you are lost,
@FlyingNDriving
@FlyingNDriving 7 ай бұрын
Alex is always great for no frills very informative and subtle information in a very compactish video. And he's always prefaces what's opinion, fact or best guess.
@nvn2005
@nvn2005 7 ай бұрын
I’d wait 2 years for a used selling @25K and 4K rebate on used EV
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
except the superior Hyundai ioniq 5 is already 2 years old....
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
They're going to be a lot cheaper than that.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 7 ай бұрын
a rebate on a used vehicle?????
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
@@trumpisastump9382 Some states offer incentives to purchase used plug-in vehicles. In California, people have reported stacking various incentives and getting free cars.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
'4K rebate on used EV' yelp, google it
@shamanthjilla
@shamanthjilla 7 ай бұрын
So no supercruise on Honda prologue?
@bahamatodd
@bahamatodd 7 ай бұрын
Only on the Acura ZDX
@EthanPDX
@EthanPDX 5 ай бұрын
Coming from a Bolt, my big Ultium question is how similar/effective the regen braking/paddle system is; one of my favorite things about the Bolt and something that has been underwhelming in some other EVs I’ve driven.
@johndean146
@johndean146 7 ай бұрын
I watched several other KZbin videos covering this SUV. Alex, once again, has done the best job. He asked about GM vs. Honda. My daughter has a Chevrolet Bolt which had a major battery problem. Dealing with the Chevrolet dealership was a nightmare. Somehow I feel as if the Honda Dealer would have treated her better; the car was in the shop 3 months! I hope to get a "passenger friendly EV" at the end of the year. This vehicle looks to be at the top of the list in this regard. My one concern is just how front wheel biased this vehicle is as an AWD car. I tend to prefer a rear wheel bias drive. I would love to have Alex compare the driving characteristics of the Nissan Ariya (perhaps a comparable vehicle), a few of the most similar rear wheel biased AWD EV's and the Prologue.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
Call it a *_Hevy,_* or a *_Chonda._*
@just.do.something
@just.do.something Ай бұрын
Damn this is a great review. I know some folks aren't happy about the Chevy combo but this car is damn good looking. Love the simplicity.
@jackbn9353
@jackbn9353 7 ай бұрын
Super disappointing that Honda is using an EV design from incompetent GM.
@pankil82
@pankil82 21 күн бұрын
Alex, For Elite is the Key Card available in US? I am not able to find any information from local dealers. Was it cancelled for US Prologue Elite ?
@UnMatrixed5150
@UnMatrixed5150 Ай бұрын
Love the styling , It doesnt have the ridiculous childlike design that other EV’s have
@lazurzabound
@lazurzabound 28 күн бұрын
Wow Alex, you worked in Sir Mixalot??? Nicely done!!!
@davetravels9273
@davetravels9273 7 ай бұрын
The problem is that you have to get a Prologue in elite trim so that it is equipped like a Tesla Model Y. As such, this is about $12000 more than a Model Y in inventory while being less efficient. I’m in the market and was interested in this but I can’t justify $12k more for this. 😢
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
The difference in door material between front and back bothers my OCD.
@g.richardson6883
@g.richardson6883 7 ай бұрын
If I were in the market, this would definitely be on my list.
@pnketia
@pnketia 7 ай бұрын
In theory this should be around the same price as the model Y, but in reality it will be considerably more after dealer markups and limited production due to GM/Honda losing money on everyone made since they cannot scale up the ultium products.
@amigajoe
@amigajoe 23 күн бұрын
Lease deals for these are priced similar to leasing a car that costs about half as much. I wouldn’t buy a first generation of anything, so a great priced lease is a great way to go.
@frankalesso4616
@frankalesso4616 7 ай бұрын
Alex great video as always. I like the styling, the size, the interior space. I don't like the price, the weight, and the GM involvement. Why are EVs so expensive? At this point in time, I think human beings have pretty much perfected how to manufacture an automobile. What is so expensive in an EV? I don't think it's the electric motors, they have been around over 100 years. They have less moving parts than an ICE motor. Is it the batteries and the system to maintain the proper temperature for those batteries? I would really like to know. Thanks again for another great video.
@KarthikVishwamitra
@KarthikVishwamitra 7 ай бұрын
It's generally the batteries that are very expensive, both in manufacturing cost and raw material cost. Also worth noting is the sheer size of electric car batteries. An electric car can run your entire (fully electric) house on its own for over 24 hours, and some larger batteries (like the Hummer) probably over two days. That's a lot of battery, and it goes to show why EV's are still quite wasteful when it comes to "going green". If you want to be green, buy a bike.
@frankalesso4616
@frankalesso4616 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@BillyBobDingledorf
@BillyBobDingledorf 7 ай бұрын
What bothers you so much about the GM involvement? If it's good enough for Honda, why isn't it good enough for you? GM has had similar collaborations with Toyota and that's gone just fine.
@KarthikVishwamitra
@KarthikVishwamitra 7 ай бұрын
@@BillyBobDingledorf I'm not OP, but If you're referring to the Geo brand, I recall that was GM selling Toyota-built vehicles. This is Honda selling GM-built vehicles, basically the opposite. Honestly, the saving grace for this partnership is that EV's don't have as many parts that can fail as a combustion engine car. The GM Ultium battery being serviceable also helps. I would never buy a Honda branded GM combustion car, the same way I would never buy a GM car. Also, Honda's interior switchgear is better than GM's IMHO. I hate column shifters and combined headlight/turn signal/wiper stalks.
@BillyBobDingledorf
@BillyBobDingledorf 7 ай бұрын
@@KarthikVishwamitra I'm referring to joint efforts like the Pontiac Vibe / Toyota Matrix. Similarly, the Toyota Cavalier, which was built in a NUMMI in Ohio and shipped to Japan. There's also the Toyota Voltz.
@mohammadfarajzadehtehrani88
@mohammadfarajzadehtehrani88 7 ай бұрын
Scream so cheap inside
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 7 ай бұрын
Well then stop screaming.
@uclaalum88
@uclaalum88 4 ай бұрын
Very nice & thorough review! I love the look of the Prologue. And I like how practical it should be. And I like the Eltium package’s motors, battery packs, software etc. I want one!
@jimyoung6208
@jimyoung6208 5 ай бұрын
divider in the rear under storage area looks like it could be weight support, rear floor support. I have seen a CR-V EXL rear floor cave it due to no support. Thoughts?
@tedbellWRV
@tedbellWRV 7 ай бұрын
I’m trying to figure out the Jane Fonda reference . . .
@coreykurtz4646
@coreykurtz4646 7 ай бұрын
Nope. I would never consider the Prologue. Too much GM crap. It does not look like a Honda. Honda made a big mistake with this one. I would rather take a Honda or Toyota Hybrid over a GM product disguised as a Honda.
@LovelyNelly92
@LovelyNelly92 Ай бұрын
I want this simply because it’s comes in the same color as my trailblazer I already own ❤
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 7 ай бұрын
It’s a bit plain looking. The gloss black between the headlights cheapens the look. They should have painted it body color. Reminds me of the first model S. Not a bad 1st attempt by Honda, but for 60K I want to be wowed! Which this doesn’t…
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Alex for the post. But Munro & Associates did a teardown of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 battery pack and concluded it was very repairable. (Which is kind of ironic with all the fear mongering about the excessive cost of a replacement battery pack.) So your conjecture about the excess weight of the Ultium-based GM EVs is due to its superior battery pack repairability, is dubious at best. Especially since the Ultium-based Honda is considerably lighter.
@cdbuiles
@cdbuiles 7 ай бұрын
Munro is 'against' 'repairable tecnology'. when he sees 10 screws he says "this is a waste" I could have done with two Dowel pins... . when he says unusued space in the frunk "this is waste". DIYers, mechanics, 2nd or 3rd used market for these EVs are not in his vision; he praises extreme packaging and tight engineering such in Teslas....
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
@@cdbuiles I'm willing to bet, based on your comments you didn't watch the teardown analysis? Based on the fact that it was done by somebody other than Sandy and reliability was a specific criteria.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
The Ultium Honda is not that much lighter. This is over 5,000 lbs in every model except an absolute base trim with FWD. The Blazer gets about 200lbs heavier because of the differing options on it. The modular nature of Ultium is what makes it more repairable vs an Ioniq 5. Munro has never compared them directly that I have seen and if he's implied that anything is like Ultium, he's crazy. Ultium not only allows modules to be replaced, it allows slightly different module chemistries to be mixed in should that be needed later down the line. No other EV can handle that at the moment. BUT, and this is a BIG, BIG BUT. Is the weight penalty worth it? I would hazard the answer is no. The reality is that batteries are very reliable and the extra cost, weight, inefficiency, etc involved in making Ultium so flexible is a big problem. I suspect that this will "Ultiumately" be a battery platform dead end for GM. The big cells make sense, the massive packaging penalty does not.
@cdbuiles
@cdbuiles 7 ай бұрын
@@nc3826I didn’t. but I’ve seen Sandie and his closest engineers with same rethoric… whenever he compares how Ford builts it and how VW builts it and then he literally he has high praises how Tesla does it. I am from the ‘european’ school with their ‘right to repair’ laws; anything from a battery to a toaster to an engine should be engineered to allow repairs… yes there is a compromise… I invite you to check various of his dismantling projects and get a feeling for his preferences.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Blazer EV tops out at 5591 pounds, while the Prologue tops out at just over 5,000 pounds. So even if they are equipped differently it seems to be a more significant weight difference? But this was not the main point of the contention. Almost every automakers pack is constructed out of modules. Just because a GM press release referred to it as 'modular and repairable'. Doesn't mean it's any more modular or repairable than various other modular designed battery packs. Including the very modular and rather elegantly designed BMW i3 battery pack from over a decade ago. And subsequently the E-GMP packs. (As a side note even non-modular designs have their repairability advantages. For example it's simpler to replace a single cell in a Tesla or Lucid designed pack versus a module design battery pack such as the Ultium) And as far as the Ultium pack being able to use different chemistries and configurations due to its wireless BMS system. That's not a repairability factor. That's a modification and upgradable factor. Plus it's just theoretical at this point. I don't claim to be an expert, but I've seen numerous dismantled battery packs. And third party analysis. So the only thing that seems crazy is your claims about the Ultium battery pack being more modular and repairable. But at least I have a little more insight, where you came up with your claims. Thanks for the feedback.
@USUG0
@USUG0 7 ай бұрын
if buyers are looking for Honda technology, and Honda quality/reliability this has none of those
@eganfo
@eganfo 4 ай бұрын
Well done on the Sir Mix A Lot lines. Good review as always.
@scottanthony3426
@scottanthony3426 4 ай бұрын
How is it that this huge Prologue has about the same cargo volume behind the rear seats as the much, much smaller VW GTI? Seems like a real "feat" of design and engineering.
@Pekirt79
@Pekirt79 7 ай бұрын
Great review Alex! I don't see Honda selling a lot of these since the specs are just ok and a Model Y LR currently costs less than $40k with point of sale credit.
@SgtNuker
@SgtNuker 2 ай бұрын
Not the first time that Honda and GM have collaborated. The Saturn Red Line Vue had a Honda V6 under its hood. My thing is ... having GM provide the underpinnings and building it in the states qualifies it for a tax write-off, but ... is it worth it in the long run? Will there be build issues with the Prologue because of its platform mate? Also, what's with manufacturers spelling out their name across the back of the car? Isn't that what emblems are for? Have people gotten suddenly dumber that an emblem isn't enough?
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 7 ай бұрын
$57000!?!? No way in hell. Try half that amount. This is why EV sales have crashed. 57k gets you a top trim hyundai palisade at MSRP and 3 years of gas at $3 a gallon. Or, get a last gen Santa fe hybrid limited and 15 years of gas at $3 a gallon.
@YTYTYTY7
@YTYTYTY7 7 ай бұрын
probably would hold value better too
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 7 ай бұрын
Then why are you watching this review. The base model is 48,000. Wake up nothing is cheap . Get a used ev if it is too much. But if you just came to complain we don’t need that.
@THEsoulquarian
@THEsoulquarian 7 ай бұрын
Car prices in general are insane. I helped a friend purchase a car and she was blown away by new car prices. She could easily afford a 50-70K car but couldn’t imagine paying that amount. It was a struggle for her to pay 24K for a lightly used crossover.
@Pekirt79
@Pekirt79 7 ай бұрын
can we stop saying misinformation. EV sales have NOT crashed, they're up 50% from last year. Just because the corporate media says something doesn't mean it's true, do some research.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
'Try half that amount' lmao
@bradyb9929
@bradyb9929 7 ай бұрын
The issue with EVs is still the price. That’s really expensive compared to similar gas. At least 10k
@antongalazyuk3117
@antongalazyuk3117 7 ай бұрын
This is actually 20k too expensive. 37k would be acceptable as it's basically the same space as a crv. I think I would rather have the crv.
@chriso5774
@chriso5774 7 ай бұрын
This is precisely the problem… legacy auto went upscale and high priced whereas Chinese are perfecting the $15k EV. Ford has finally figured this out, so are cancelling many conversion and high end EV projects, instead creating an all-in skunk works to go after the elusive $20k US made EV. GM, sadly, still hasn’t figured out why cancelling their best selling low cost Bolt was a bad idea.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 6 ай бұрын
On average, an EV has a $5,000 price disadvantage. However, this has fallen precipitously and EVs are now on pace to cost less than comparable ICE vehicles within the next 2 years.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 7 ай бұрын
On the plus side this is probably the best Japanese ev you can buy Those of you complaining that it’s just a GM product should remember that the Supra is just a bmw
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 ай бұрын
I think I’d prefer a Nissan Ariya over this.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 7 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DP I would too but I’d probably get an ioniq5 or a model Y
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 ай бұрын
@@naveenthemachine lol if you would too why did you say this was probably the best Japanese EV you can buy?
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 7 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DP because of the effort. The Ariya and prologue are the best Japanese ones.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 ай бұрын
@@naveenthemachine the effort being minimal as this is more of a GM product you mean?
@thegreeneyej
@thegreeneyej 7 ай бұрын
Like it, it checks all the boxes, Apple car play, Rear wiper, fast AC charging, better looking than the Chevy! Good job Honda.
@JB11335
@JB11335 7 ай бұрын
It’s a good pairing if GM could their quality right. Heard too many stories of how the Blazer EV launch was botched. No reason why the Honda version wouldn’t be affected since it’s based on that
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
Toyota proved that past reliability with ice vehicles is not indicative of reliability for BEVs....
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 7 ай бұрын
The blazer issues were related to the infotainment head units and software. Honda did their own thing there.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
On the contrary the Blazer EV and the Prologue use the same operating system.... the only difference is the apps.... Let's hope Honda's software Engineers do a better job ?
@dcuccia
@dcuccia 6 ай бұрын
I know I'm crossing segments, but I'd sure love a Crown Signia Hybrid Max as my new mostly-EV wagon. Always EV back and forth to work, and i can drive LA-San Francisco stop-free like God intended.
@havfunonline
@havfunonline 7 ай бұрын
Great product at a great price, but can’t see why you’d pay more for one of these over a Model Y, which has far more cargo space and space for people as well. At least this has a better look and more range, which precious few competitors manage. I’d be less worried about the frunk than about the way bigger trunk.
@cgrscott
@cgrscott 7 ай бұрын
I'm a sucker for teal paint. It is a good looking EV.
@alliejr
@alliejr 7 ай бұрын
The GM switchgear is a deal breaker for me. There is a reason Honda buyers don’t buy Chevys.
@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan790
@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan790 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video Alex.
@james2042
@james2042 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate them trying to make it like a car and not a tech showcase, but the glaring issue with this and evs as a whole is the absurd price tags. Once i heard the price, per usual, I'm incentivised to go buy the gas or hybrid counterpart. There is no reason anyone would logically buy this unless a government banned the gas counterpart, which seems to be where we're heading to force these to sell.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 7 ай бұрын
The average price of a new vehicle in the US is $47,000. With the tax credit you can purchase this at below that cost except for the top of the line Elite trim.
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 7 ай бұрын
Those tires on the Elite model are ridiculous for such a heavy car especially with the short sidewalls. Expect to buy new expensive tires more often. Overall, it’s a good looking vehicle.
@dane9193
@dane9193 7 ай бұрын
I am a happy owner of a Bolt EUV Premier over the last two years. I've also always purchased GM vehicles. With that said, I would hands-down choose the Honda Prologue over the Blazer EV or the Equinox. The styling is much more inline with what I"m looking for. It has a handsome look, where the Blazer, to me, is tacky looking. Now, if GM brought over the Buick Electra E5 over from China and sold THAT in the United States, this would be an entirely different conversation. I would happily choose the Electra. But, given GM's constant terrible decisions in the EV space, I have high doubts it'll actually make it here and if it does, they're going to price it way out of range for what it is. The Prologue for what you get IS appropriately priced. It's nicer than the Blazer EV, but also considerably cheaper. It's a win-win.
@brandonleesanders
@brandonleesanders 5 ай бұрын
4:55 - “If like… Sir Mix-A-Lot… You want a motor in the back of your Honda” 😂
@MattRoll
@MattRoll 5 ай бұрын
😂😂 The Sir Mixalot reference!! Thank you Alex!
@joeg7755
@joeg7755 7 ай бұрын
Really nice looking normal car. I would very seriously consider this if wanting a full EV. Love the colour as well. Well done Honda (and GM I guess LOL)
@elcabopr
@elcabopr 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for calling out the 2 way lumbar. Some of us have that on our must-have list, meaning I won’t be buying the Prologue. 😢
@treads2595
@treads2595 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand why you YT car reviewers keep harping on EV cars that don't have frunks. Most EV owners say that they don't even use their frunk. ICE cars have never had frunks and somehow, we've managed to survive. I think not having a frunk is a nothing burger. I most certainly will not hold it against a car if it doesn't have a frunk. What's more important is the charging curve and the amount of range it has.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
As I have said before: I don't have an issue if there's no frunk if there's also no wasted space up front. For instance: Taycan, EV6, Ioniq 6, etc the hood is so short and everything is squeezed in so no frunk is fine. But if you have a big, long hood and tons of space doing absolutely nothing, then it's just a waste of space. From the surveys I have seen Tesla owners certainly use them as well.
@chriso5774
@chriso5774 7 ай бұрын
It’s not so much the frunk as the grossly inefficient use of space.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 4 ай бұрын
Having frunk is so much convenient as many owners always park their cars up front facing the house/building, so you can take out things in the frunk easier instead going to the cargo area in the back.
@lionintu
@lionintu 3 ай бұрын
If you compare the Honda Prologue to the Toyota Crown Signia, who wins?
@vishaldev13
@vishaldev13 7 ай бұрын
This should be called Honda Epilogue as others have pointed out.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
Ooooh, I like it. LOL
@kathmandun8749
@kathmandun8749 5 ай бұрын
I would take it over a Toyota EV for sure
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey 7 ай бұрын
I like everything about the Prologue better than the Blazer styling inside and out, infotainment software, etc. The silver back bumper thingy looks out of place but other than that nice. However, I would lease until the NACS charge port is standard. Everyone knows NACS will be the standard going forward now so I don't want to own a CCS car.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
The only difference is the connector they both use CCS protocols.... transition will take decades and CCS charges will be in the majority for non Tesla electric vehicles for quite a while.... adapters will become mandatory for both types of connectors... But to each their own....
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey 7 ай бұрын
@@nc3826 Major automakers are saying 2025 for NACS are there are more Tesla EVs than all others on the road so we need to get there. CCS cars can use the adapter.
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
@@frankcoffey Thank you for ignoring the point about the long transition, after the initial rollout.... As I pointed out before, feel free to wait... And for your own edification, your initial run-on sentence was mostly incomprehensible....
@ellishazard8506
@ellishazard8506 7 ай бұрын
Was going to thumbs down if you didn’t complete that Mix-A-Lot joke after your PERFECT setup haha
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 7 ай бұрын
12:07 14:53 *_"Mack Daddy_* is the third studio album by Sir Mix-a-Lot. It was released on February 4, 1992, on Def American Recordings. The album is particularly notable for the hit single "Baby Got Back."
@nc3826
@nc3826 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out what was salient about the post
@glennkennedy441
@glennkennedy441 7 ай бұрын
I miss the good old days of small, subcompact Honda's.
@PeaceChanel
@PeaceChanel 7 ай бұрын
Thank You for supporting Electric Vehicles and for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
@tallll70
@tallll70 6 ай бұрын
There is no way i'll be ok with those huge flaps screens sticking up from dash, they like huge open laptops on office desk, they need to design again not this random placing for 50k... Everything else was really nice until the dash came in view
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