The 2025 Corolla just got UPDATED...I wasn't expecting this

[@HachiKamuri]

Kinda disappointed that the FX name was used for the sedan as opposed to the hatch, looks more like an updated Apex than a FX throwback

[@PH74KG]

my thoughts exactly

[@amamiai]

They don't even bother to update the '25 hatch with the larger screen

[@xFactoryUSA]

With the fake audi wheels, it’s a s-line package 😂. 😊

[@evoman44]

I also thought the same thing. But even worse is that its only going to be available in an automatic. I rather buy a used Hatchback with a manual.

[@ladesgracia7723]

0:24 "Hyundai, kia, they're on fire right now"

[@KirkKreifels]

I knew someone would catch that

[@ladesgracia7723]

@@KirkKreifels when you laughed I just knew that was no coincidence xd

[@martintaper7997]

literally

[@manoloprpr]

I’m in Barcelona Spain visiting and seen tons of the Yaris hatchback and it’s insane! Also the Corolla wagons are pretty cool.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Corolla wagons RULE!!!!!🤩🤩🤩

[@shaneh734]

We need the wagon!

[@seanhershey3390]

Aw man…

[@davidhunternyc1]

Yeah, Americans keep saying the GR Corolla is as good as the Yaris. It's not. We are fooling ourselves.

[@icantdecideahandle]

@@gigglybeast a bit lighter, smaller, more agile, and a literal 2 door

[@N20Joe]

I don't understand why Toyota keeps making a big deal about minor color changes and turning it into a whole new grade: Apex, Nightshade, now this FX. Some of them do look good but they're not worth $40,000 after the dealers get ahold of them.

[@evoman44]

At $40k you minus well get a GR Corolla. You can now find them slightly used for $37k.

[@johnkonde1975]

It's a way for Toyota to make more profit. It may cost Toyota an extra $1000 to add all the cosmetic stuff and yet they'll charge an extra $4000 for the new FX trim, easy money!

[@thg1914]

I miss my Fx16 ... Should have never sold it .. fun functional little car with quirky styling

[@whatwhome6914]

I also had an FX-16. It was the best.

[@makecorollagreatagain1876]

Man I was excited thought maybe they brought back a manual option. It's just a nightshade

[@doziershaw9765]

So the 2025 Corolla hatchback retains the older 8 inch multimedia display per Toyotas site but the sedans get upgraded screen. No love for hatches, stole its FX name and slapped it on a sedan. No hybrid option. At least Honda likes hatches and can now get a Civic hatch hybrid

[@johnkonde1975]

Only the most expensive top trim 2025 Corolla sedans will get the upgraded screen. There's also going to be a price hike so you will end up paying over 30k out the door for the upgraded Corolla screen

[@doziershaw9765]

yeah a 2025 SE with blind spot and RCTA is around $25100 including destination which is not a bad price for a Toyota plus gets slightly better gas mileage compared to the XSE trim which has low profile tires

[@sartonnis]

What's super annoying is that other countries have had a hybrid version of the Corolla hatch for years. It's wild to me that the US still doesn't have it.

[@jd5n03sc]

@@sartonnisyeah it’s so annoying. I really want a hybrid hatchy

[@babymamba96]

Hatchbacks unfortunately don’t sell as much as sedans for whatever reason

[@lawrencedorfman5543]

A lot of cars just getting to big and expensive.

[@bijuvarughese3535]

Inflation worldwide

[@avdp9095]

We have a Yaris and Aygo below the Corolla in Europe....

[@MrBacchus18]

Yeah and all the safety nannies aren't free

[@MsNS-uh7vb]

Agreed! Bought the civic sport touring hatchback off the showroom floor. It's a gas guzzler and finding parking is a joke. Not worth the hype.

[@johnkonde1975]

@@avdp9095 Here in the USA, we have nothing below Corolla

[@jdrules23]

Are there any updates on corolla gr auto for 2025?

[@okanulke6227]

Same car for last 5 years, change wheels and paint top black and sell another 5 years as new car because they call ''fx'' That car looks and feels like 15 years old car. Yes It is reliable and it is the only good thing we can say about it.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

At least somebody besides me is going to address the elephant in the room

[@jus10xx]

Yes and it was ugly then and its def still ugly now lol

[@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982]

New Corolla update is a very good one and will keep it fresh. but a all new generation is Long over due and very much needed.

[@SkippyPB.]

This thing is going to be almost $40k. Dealers are still marking these things up.

[@amode8761]

US is lucky that they get all these special editions models of Toyota’s whether it’s a Corolla, Camry, 86 or Supra. In Australia, Toyota doesn’t bother with any special editions, just the standard trim levels.

[@ThePilotGear]

regarding the Accord, if anyone wants my honest opinion about sedans in today's market. The proposition has to be attractive and different than that of the equivalent CUV. The sedan absolutely needs to be a sportier and more involving driver-focused package because those are the people choosing the sedan over the more practical lifted hatch version. I have nothing against offering them as hybrid-only; I think that's a smart move. But the driver-focused nature needs to be there, no exception. I'm talking about sport sedan or go home. And there should be a significant price discount as well when looking at the base trim. The Accord is too expensive and too soft; people will default to the CRV.

[@Ryan57Garr]

I absolutely agree! The old 2.0T was on my shopping list of cars to get in the near future instead of a new CUV. Then they axed it for this new one. So I ended up getting a CX-5 Turbo instead. It’s great, but I would have rather had the accord 2.0T.

[@Cerby1979]

If Honda brings back the 2.0T Accord, then maybe sales would improve.

[@peterkwan6072]

Civic is selling due to great styling, almost as big as Accord, fuel efficient, good price

[@the_paranormal_factory1812]

How much? Than a Corolla?

[@mark_u]

Toyota didn't need to do much styling changes to keep the Corolla fresh. Current model is far less outdated than the previous gen at the same time in its lifecycle after all. New FX trim is quite nice though it would be a shame if it's only a rehash of the Apex trim with an overly stiff ride.

[@jus10xx]

This thing is hideous

[@aurorajones8481]

You should talk about how the cars have got so big over the years combined with garages getting smaller. The Civic has grown since the 80's! We have big trucks. Fun fact the two sized garage peaked in 2020 with 24x24, but has shrunk in just 4 years to an average of 20x20 (I'm a builder btw). You combine that with the large size of current cars and you have what many peeps are running into. Garages only capable of housing one car because two requires "Ca pak" 😂 Yea... well i find it facinating.🙃

[@ShaiyanHossain]

cars getting larger are due to the US government's footprint laws which make it much tougher to keep within a size segment for certain mpg targets without making the car bigger. larger cars have more lenient mpg targets which is why everything is ginormous now. Its also just more profitable for manufacturers to push more expensive trucks and SUVs

[@kksan]

no kidding! my F-150 can barely park into my 20x20 garage.

[@Hallowsaw]

Good example would be a forester use to be the smallest subaru crossover. But over the generations they got bigger just enough to create a "new" small crossover called the crosstrek. The forester use to be the same size as the crosstrek. That is why when i plan on retiring my 2011 legacy i may go down to a top trim impreza because its actually the same size as my legacy.

[@Ryan57Garr]

@@kksanYou can get an F-150 into a 20x20? And still get in and out of it? That’s amazing! My wife’s Explorer BARELY fits.

[@kksan]

@@Ryan57Garr yep crew cab with short bed. Just a couple inches left between tailgate and the wall when I back into the garage and still be able to close the garage door.

[@davidh7339]

I'm assuming this new "FX" will be CVT only? The FX-16 from the '80's came with a manual transmission. That's what the new one needs. Not everyone can afford $45k+ for that 3cyl GR model.

[@evoman44]

My thoughts exactly. Toyota missed an opportunity to make the FX the entry-level affordable hot hatch with a manual transmission option for those that can't afford the GR Corolla.

[@josemanuelruiz2036]

That car needs the 2.5 liter engine from the Camry. That will put it on par with Civic 1.5 T, Kia K4 T and Mazda 3 2.5 liter.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Agreed.

[@Blank00]

Thue could just put the Prius powertrain in the Corolla. This is basically what Honda is doing, they are replacing the 1.5T with a 2.0H powertrain

[@josemanuelruiz2036]

@@Blank00 good point!

[@evoman44]

It at least a manual transmission in the first place to make the best use of the modest power it currently has.

[@lawrencedorfman5543]

Will the tint be legal or to drive at night?

[@avdp9095]

Big seller in Europe with much better materials inside for the European version, magnificent build quality as well. And ofcourse much more expensive.

[@ronnixson9253]

When are you going to do an Rx/Lx update for 2025?

[@Siblue]

I assume when Lexus pressroom publishes after embargo

[@craigo2142]

Will be interesting to see Honda sales when the civic hybrid comes out and what happens to Accord sales. HRV hybrid would really help sales to compete with Toyota. And, Acura with the ADX might help them.

[@Ryan-cf6lc]

Kirk, Would you pick Gladiator or Frontier?

[@dewdew34]

man i feel old... bought a new 87 FX in early 88 as they didn't sell well. 5 spd hatch with AC and cassette ... awesome space.

[@Richard-xv7yf]

I have a 24 Corolla and the last thing this car needs is a bigger screen, especially in its current configuration. Short people will have to raise their seat to max height

[@Desertbiker617]

Corolla needs a new generation.

[@EthanXiao-zu8nl]

So it will be a higher trim of Corolla? Or will be under xse? 10.5 inch screen sounds better than xse

[@v8chevrolet646]

GLADIATOR????? Its a better buy if want a car to last for 60k miles 😂

[@OverweightPandas-fi2jp]

I was gonna say that, idk if bulletproof is the adjective I would use to describe anything made by Chrysler

[@xiondFirst]

Is the engine made by Chrysler? Because Hemi engines aren't made by Stellantis.

[@v8chevrolet646]

Sorry forgot the word ONLY before 60😂, just go buy a 1996 T4R with 500k or less miles for a better purchase than the Commander !

[@FrederickThe3rd]

Are the xle seats actually that sweaty? I have a good discount on one of them but I had an issue with my jetta r line making me sweat like crazy. I’ve only sweat in my jetta compared to renting mustangs, audis, teslas, camrys

[@spinnetti]

"fun" cars are plummeting. That's bad as could all get cancelled and I'm dead sick of "SUVs" :( The fx has NOTHING to do with the FX16. The spiritual successor to that is really the GR Corolla as the original fx16 had better suspension and the MR2 engine more similar to the GR Corolla upgrades today. This Corolla is just essentially a "sticker package", and certainly no FX16. If it was, it should have got the GR Corolla driveline - THAT I would be interested in.

[@rightlanehog3151]

At a minimum they could give it the 203 hp 2.5 engine and 6 speed manual.

[@MaddNomad1015]

GR Corolla is straight up the successor to both the FX and AE lines. Lol. Toyota keeps doing this weird throwing names on cars thing that Dodge does

[@baronvonjo1929]

I can think of a few reasons. Fun cars are typically always super expensive. They also aren't too practical normally. People have less love for cars than ever. Older people with the money will buy expensive sports cars or trucks and SUVs. Younger people statistically have less love for cars than older generations and also dont have the money to buy these sporty cars that charge outrageous premiums. Most folks will just buy a CUV that ticks the most boxes. They will be stuck with a never ending appliance that saps their wealth away while they sit in traffic with everyone else.

[@Matt-tv1ix]

Again Toyota could had offer a manual transmission option for this one.... But they didn't.

[@rightlanehog3151]

👍👍

[@Agent-lg1mu]

I agree

[@huanronghu4432]

@@naveenthemachine why do u assume manuals make a car faster?

[@huanronghu4432]

@@naveenthemachine But manuals can come with a reduction in power compared to the automatic versions of the same vehicle. That reduction can contribute to a slower time.

[@lukek1949]

@@huanronghu4432 Manuals are not faster anymore. But a manual offers something an automatic never can: driver and car interaction. It’s a shame you can hardly get them anymore.

[@rjsciarrillo9908]

What about Toyo Cross sales??

[@Hschlick84]

The 2025 looks nice, but I prefer my paid off 2022.

[@tylertullis6536]

I was hoping this would be a Civic Si competitor, a "warm" Corolla so to speak. Only in dreams I guess.

[@MaddNomad1015]

Toyota turned the FX and Apex into style trims, put a Corolla chassis name on a Impreza based sports car, and put the Trueno badge on it as an option. Lol

[@lifescope]

I've read that Acura is updating their factories, which is causing Acuras to be built out of Honda's plants until the upgrades are completed. I'm thinking the strain is causing supply issues for Acura AND Honda. I don't think its the cars themselves.

[@jdmj0]

I'm happy with my Sportage PHEV. Some minor things here and there but for my OTD price, compared to the other big brands, I'm a happy customer!

[@GT-gt4bf]

TLX and Integra need the new large touchscreen. Toyota has introduced their big screen fairly quickly while the Pilot still has a 9” screen, unacceptable.

[@Zeyek1]

thats what happens when you go with conservative company

[@aurorajones8481]

Who the hell cares about screen size. Its a car. Not a best buy show room. I don't get this relentless push for screens in the car. Just what i want. Another blaring screen.

[@ThePilotGear]

oh I disagree. I applaud any manufacturer willing to move away from a large screen, but most importantly ridding the necessity to touch the screen to access anything. Screens ruin the interior, and requiring to touch the screen is a distraction at the very least. If I could remove the screen altogether, I would.

[@robertreid9079]

I really much prefer smaller integrated screens which are becoming harder to find.

[@lryoung17]

The TLX got a new screen with it's slight facelift. The Integra is next now that the Civic has been updated.

[@davidhunternyc1]

I've got my Hot Pockets and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! At 1:44, I know I sound like a broken record at this point but, again, that cheap plastic infotainment screen is hideous. People, look at this photo and imagine the dash without the infotainment screen. It would be so much cleaner and ergonomic. The simplicity would have no equal and this car would sell like hotcakes. I know Toyota watches Kirk's channel so that's why I keep hammering the point that Toyota must fix the infotainment screen. There's a way to integrate the infotainment screen into the dash so it's not an eyesore. Toyota has billions of dollars. Toyota has gifted automotive designers. Let the designers design. What we see are the bean counters making the decisions, maximizing profits at the expense of ergonomic functionality. C'mon, Toyota. You can do it! Better yet, Toyota? Call me. I can help.

[@ouch9326]

they should encourage momentum preservation effiency driving and make a sport edition of that form of sporting , then apply that to prius, corolla, maybe base model suv etc

[@Iamthatiam00]

In this economy, the only thing buyers care about is price. No 10" display or any of these unnecessary features.

[@NightNurseMike]

I like that you can still choose an American car over Japanese car, even though you’re such a big fan of Japanese cars. It shows that you just really love cars and that you’re not just some mindless Japanese car nut

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks man! I truly enjoy 99% of all cars. 😜

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

As mass production manufacturers make more quality cars, it feels like brands like Genesis and Acura are losing purpose

[@jkonquer3853]

Do you know if sienna is getting refreshed for 25?

[@pontiacGXPfan]

If Toyota wants to refresh that bread box on wheels they can start with putting in a conventional powertrain

[@randyw.8781]

I think all those additions will bump up the price point to where the Camery will be the better buy. Time will tell.

[@FeLiX13sLaVe]

My thoughts on the TLX: everyone that wanted one already bought. It's just not a competitive vehicle for the price at this point.

[@TheAlfredo_way6699]

Is the Corolla GR getting a redesign?

[@gregdixon3797]

I like the wheels. Those seats look better than those horrible seats they were putting in the SE/XSE a few years ago but I don’t know if they are still getting those.

[@electrikoptik]

Still doesn't get the 12.3 inch full digital instrument panel that the euro-spec Corolla gets.

[@jxmar_]

Europe doesn’t get the Camry which does get the 12.3 inch digital gauge cluster. Gotta save something for the Camry😏

[@electrikoptik]

@@jxmar_ Uh, I live in the Netherlands and the XV70 generation Camry is officially sold here. It's not yet known if the XV80 will be available in europe (UK & EU etc).

[@uhavemooface]

I wish our local Toyota would have had a 2025 Corolla because that would have been the car that we would have got instead of the 2025 Camry Hybrid Se. We had the Le 2015 Corolla Le. We had that for 9 years. Turned it in for the Camry Hybrid Se.

[@lesterng5748]

Is there a stop sales order on some Toyota,Honda, Mazda, Subaru, and Nissan for rigging the crash test?

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

Sorry, I'm not impressed with the FX. They could have at least put back in a MT since Toyota already had one for this generation Corolla. Ideally in addition to the lowered suspension and the appearance package, they could have put in a more powerful, or tuned engine.

[@mandorivera6990]

Toyota for the love Pete bring the COROLLA WAGON!!!!

[@mikej238]

They won't, they want you to buy the Corolla Cross

[@mandorivera6990]

@@mikej238 why you have to kill what little hope I have left 😭

[@bjsimon802]

I had two corolla, i loved my 1994 drive better than a FRS.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Kirk, They need to F (i)X the cramped Corolla interior by stretching the TNGA-C wheelbase to match the Prius. The genuinely impressive Corolla FX-16 hot hatch was built alongside the world famous Nova Twin-Cam in the California factory which is now occupied by T_SLA squatters. 😛😛

[@huanronghu4432]

weird packaging for this gen corolla, considering the previous gen had more legroom than even the bigger brother the camry. hopefully the next gen will get a few inches more legroom

[@thecloud1432]

Im nearly sold on a gr corolla but the front bumper looks like optimus prime. Im hoping the 25 gr gets a front bumper like this, looks so dang clean.

[@evoman44]

You reminded me of when the first Subaru WRXs came to the US in 2002 with the bug eye headlights. I could not stand them but I still wanted to buy one because it was a WRX. So I searched for a long time for better looking aftermarket headlights. By the time I started seeing some decent looking aftermarket headlights the 2004 blobeye WRX was released that I like a lot more. Ended up buying a 2005 WRX that I still have to this day. But a few years ago the after market made a new style headlights for the bugeye models with LEDs that look really nice now.

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

Finally, thanks for the Prologue flop sales numbers.

[@xaviermiranda3647]

Is the FX hybrid?

[@KirkKreifels]

Nope. 2.0 with cvt

[@petejansen7220]

Kirk you said you would rather own a gladiator. Have you looked at the predicted reliability,and all the issues with that vehicle? If you are thinking of owning one of them you may want to get rid of it before the warranty period has expired.

[@Tahvyy]

I have a 2020 Corolla SE sedan 6sp and I want those rims 🤔.

[@jywn]

radom thought...I wish they would put the last generation plug in system in the corolla for less, the current generation prius is a bit much for me

[@THEREALTJP]

I'm excited for this FX Corolla 🔥 I wish those seats were black 👉🏽👈🏽

[@FroggyplayzTyyy]

You spelled updated wrong it’s update not udpated

[@barron204]

The Corolla sedan is not sold in my country due to poor sales. Hybrid only Hatch and Wagon. Looking forward to the next generation.

[@erlin168]

Which county do you live in? Thank you.

[@webcomment8895]

I RARELY see a Maverick on the road. They seem to be very low volume vehicles. I suspect Ford is losing money on them or making very low profit and is instead trying to push potential buyers to the Ranger and F-150 when they show up at dealers and find no Mavericks available. Dealerships can add markups and increase their profit on these low supply vehicles, but dealership markups in no way benefit Ford. All that extra cash is kept by the local dealership. If they were profitable, Ford would have made increasing production volume a higher priority by now.

[@Ryan57Garr]

Maybe it’s regional? Been seeing them everywhere in DFW for over a year now.

[@mad-meh2719]

Here in socal, I've seen them often.

[@Beastykato]

Mavericks are everywhere on the east coast and the profit margin is definitely high. They launched them at 20k and have heavily increased the price since. Big money maker. It goes up for 40k for a truck made in Mexico

[@mikej238]

nope, you got that backwards. Supply can't meet demand

[@webcomment8895]

@@mikej238 What’s backward? They aren’t building that many. You can’t sell what you don’t produce. Ford makes many times more F-150s.

[@jayray8097]

The Honda Ridgeline has a stop sale because of faulty wiring for the rear camera

[@darin982]

I actually like the Impreza over the crosstrek due to all the plastic they put on the crosstrek. Thinking about adding that one to my garage for around town car then give to my kid. Perhaps with the low sales numbers I can pick one up cheaper on a rebate next month

[@correya.lettsome4702]

Not trying to shade your shine Kirk but Toyota is cleaning our the parts bine and getting rid of the rest of the parts from the apex edition.

[@ty1olimmm751]

Toyota really missed the opportunity to give the regular corolla hatch the FX trim

[@Cavemol5823]

It looks bigger for sure any engine differences ? Just appearance it looks like . New screen is nice .. Mavericks are taking Ridgeline sales for sure

[@nickic1864]

Toyota screens are obnoxious. Looks like after thoughts and out of place.

[@ELPJM09]

It’s a nice car. I’m just not a fan of the grey cloth seats on the FX trim. They should have put the softex leather. I’m currently on my third Corolla, a 2018 SE sedan. Always reliable with no problems. Have been thinking of upgrading to a truck but also considering buying a 2025 Corolla XSE because it will come with the bigger 10 inch screen.

[@evoman44]

I used to work at a Toyota dealership in the 90's. And the most memorable Corolla I have driven has been 1988 Corolla FX16 hatchback with a manual transmission that was traded in. That thing was more of a thrill to drive than any of the newer manual Corollas I had driven at the time.

[@FiregemGaming]

I hope the newer Kias and Hyundais aren’t as easily stolen 🙄 I blame those 2 companies alone for making my insurance skyrocket.

[@gumerdominguez4091]

Toyota needs to bring the corolla X-ray

[@raymond_sycamore]

"Paint it black, charge $12,000 more. Genius"

[@irenemanuel4217]

Honda civic sport touring hatchback is my ride❤

[@zamrock19]

I just wish toyota would release a hybrid corolla hatchback

[@Mr.Helper.]

0.5 cylinder with twin turbo

[@frannyML]

why do you think impreza isn't a good buy?

[@sokratzmmf]

Lack of power

[@robme3660]

I don't love the wheels or screen size in the FX. The screen size is too big for the cabin design. On a positive note; the spoiler, exterior color combo, and lowered stance are nice.

[@untheist5533]

The accord is down because it is bland. Its styling is dull.

[@Isaac-d2w5c]

First time I seen someone get a haircut in middle of video lol

[@alexortiz8216]

One thing that Toyota can never seem to do is offer a good interior. Honda has always beat them at that

[@tylersrubar6451]

That’s exactly the screen size the new Taco and 4Runner should’ve had vs the oversized 14in.

[@savchuktaras]

The tundra recall isn’t really a recall when there is no fix at the moment.

[@islanddon865]

Corolla looks good.

[@janjachymiak9013]

They better make new parts for all the Tundras.

[@Cerby1979]

Ridgeline in need of a redesign from its current unibody design. Though the tech has somewhat improved, it’s still dated and unfortunately, the 2025 models are going to be the same as the current year. Not worth the $35,000 to $48,000 that they’re going for.

[@gleej8120]

I don't understand Hyundai/Kia...I see any of their models and I think 'meh'...

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

Kia/Hyundai has become the brand for non-car people who need a car.

[@PVo-1111]

New Accord looks weird.

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

6:35 the new Accord is so bland in the exterior styling. Previous Accord looked better.

[@macaron3141592653]

The TLX is overpriced. It was never that attractive of a car in the first place. It should be more interesting now but there's no reason anyone willing to spend 45k+ on a new car to not buy the better 3 series for slightly more. Honda needs to make a worthy hybrid replacement to the 2.0t to keep up with toyota.

[@Sarcastic_Asmodeus]

And it's gonna cost 40k courtesy of the awesome stealerships. 💪💪💪

[@Agent-lg1mu]

If FX Corolla provides manual transmission, which may never happen, I will be interested. If honda accord use normal automatic transmission, it may increase their sales.

[@FeLiX13sLaVe]

The new Accord is so uninspiring. Lots of people talking about how the Accord just isn't the best like it used to be.

[@lilpeppa117G]

Kia forte is gonna murder this

[@AE86FTS]

The FX has the same problem as the 2.5RS Impreza. The only people who would get the reference are niche car weirdos. But those people wouldn't be interested because of the lack of a manual transmission. So who is this for?

[@Anti_degeneracy1]

They had to. Kia Forte and Honda Civic was eating into their lunch. The hideous dash needs replacing too.

[@lennygarrison6836]

@@naveenthemachinedude, you say the same ish over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Get a flippin life my boi! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@lennygarrison6836 its mental illness at this point. btw he's all over Facebook and Instagram comments this way too

[@huanronghu4432]

@@naveenthemachine the forte already had to change their name to the K4, like the optima got changed to k5, so what are u talking about?

[@huanronghu4432]

@@naveenthemachine mmm overall dimensions sure. the exterior and interior yes.

[@gumerdominguez4091]

Richland it’s got some recalls may be it’s affecting also

[@lukek1949]

What’s with all the freaking screens? Where are the Toyotas and Hondas you can drive forever with just maintenance!

[@alvinsimba734]

I have a 2020 Corolla LE that I have had for 4 years which is nothing and so far it’s just maintenance