The 21st Century Black Sox

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AKA: Beating a Long Dead Horse Into the Ground. The Chicago White Sox are an unserious franchise. That word might be a compliment. This video digs into the problems that beset this apathetic and chaotic team. All you have to do is go just below the surface. The problems are more than apparent (i.e. everything).
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[@codenamelarry6518]

They’ve set their sights on 2093. It is tradition for the White Sox to wait 88 years between titles.

[@NerdNest83]

If the world still exists then.

[@vince11harris]

@@NerdNest83that’s what I’m saying 😂

[@sleepmedicine165]

if the mlb even still exists at that point

[@porguinturtle3854]

if chicago still exists by then

[@Canada1994]

I remember as a Red Soxs fan seeing Yankee fans with a sign in the 2005 season saying "Congrats on ending the curse Boston. Here's to your next tile in 2090"

[@austinemms9772]

This team is the FTX of Baseball: An entity that rose high in a short amount of time and then revealed themselves to be completely fraudulent.

[@KTEFilmsInc]

Winning comment. Everyone else go home.

[@shermanngjazz]

Amen. I had high expectations for the White Sox in 2022 yet they just crashed down.

[@cronoros]

Sounds more like the Cowboys tbh.

[@nombreespablo]

@@cronorosthe cowboys didn't come crashing down. everyone knows they're frauds year in and year out

[@MomTires]

@@cronorosSure but that’s beating a dead horse, FTX is honestly a great, original analogy

[@Khaoki]

Learning that the White Sox have two (2) members of their analytics staff and their office is basically a broom closet made everything about that team make sense

[@UrinatingTree]

That sounds about right.

[@MenverMan]

As a Rockies sort of fan that would be a drastic improvement

[@jimnfl7134]

@@UrinatingTree Honestly, you could have waited until september to make this.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

​@@MenverMan anything would, man

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

If it werent for Michael Jordan and the World Series run in 05, we'd be talking about Reinsdorf as one of the worst owners in sports history.

[@wheeliebeast7679]

*If he hadn't inherited Jordan from the previous owner

[@alanpeel1981]

Thanks to Jordan, Reinsdorf is a hall of fame owner.

[@jonathand.t.5051]

​@@alanpeel1981 I would tell Jordan to just buy the Sox and Bulls from Reinsdorf, but then I remember the Charlotte Hornets

[@williammays8476]

He already is

[@Zaximillian]

Why isn't he, considering he's clearly a revenue sharing leech?

[@ironfistalexander3246]

You didn’t even mention Reinsdorf has the gall to ask for public money for a new stadium in the midst of a historically bad season. And fumbled a fan-favorite announcer to a division rival because he personally doesn’t like him. The only guy that made the broadcast watchable.

[@diggsfather]

at least you still have Steve Stone. cubs fans still miss him dearly

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@diggsfather Not bringing Benetti back might drive Steve Stone into retirement, given the cringey try-hard dude he now shares the booth with.

[@EastboundAndDowns]

Insanity. Pure fucking insanity. Jerry Reinsdorf is 88 years old, worth $2.1 BILLION between the Sox and Chicago Bulls, and right before he dies; wants the taxpayers to fund a new stadium that he may not even be alive to see complete! Put a trough urinal on that tombstone, cause there is going to be a LINE to piss on it.

[@EastboundAndDowns]

A stadium that he may not even be ALIVE TO SEE. I don't understand how billionaires can be so close to the end, yet totally unwilling to spend a cent of it to renew SOME goodwill to their legacy as a person. Why is Chicago just FULL of sports owners like "Dollar" Bill Wirtz, Reinsdorf, and Virginia Halas-McCaskey, so agitated at the thought of spending money to make money?

[@UrinatingTree]

He wants $1 billion in public funding. L-fucking-mao

[@ryanhughes2922]

I haven’t started this yet, but the fact that “Berto” of that White Sox Rant was like, “if Chris Getz becomes GM, then you’ll hear from me again in 2038” And then Chris Getz became GM

[@aidenawe9359]

Getz gets some blame. Reinsdorf gets most of the blame.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

I swear on my MOTHERS GRAVE, that when the algorithm suggested a video about the White Sox’s ineptitude, last night; I said… “I want to see Tree post a video about the Whitesox.” Then the like a fucking SpongeBob gag card; he releases a video about the Sox, the next fucking day! Ask and you shall clearly receive!

[@michaeltaylor6765]

Thanks for your request

[@chaosgreyblood]

Like a SpongeBob gag card... *One Day Later*

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

@@michaeltaylor6765 Of course! I’m glad my ‘wish’ brought joy to many people, and hope my future ones may do the same.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

@@chaosgreyblood Precisely.

[@codenamelarry6518]

I always guess based on the most recent trends in Baseball, and I asked and received as well.

[@jbeeson0876]

I am Chicago native and have been a diehard White Sox fan my entire life. When I tell you this has been the most depressed and hopeless I have felt for this team I have ever felt, I mean it. Reinsdorf is a cancer and needs to sell the team. Give us someone who actually cares and wants to win.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

Let me tell you, I pull for that team cause that fanbase absolutely deserves to see a winner again like 2005. Last two years have honestly been the worst I've ever seen them get. I don't know what in the world that front office see's in Pedro Grifol? The stories what Keynan Middleton talked about last year about the "no rules" culture Grifol runs in that clubhouse is just absolutely disgraceful and was shocked they chose to bring him back after 2023. He just shows absolutely no leadership in how to run a team and Reinsdorf doesn't even care because he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake in this hire.

[@MrKerry4371]

Maybe we can swap owners: you can have pizza boy Illitch from Detroit and we will take your owner!

[@Doommaster677]

As a Cubs fan I've got nothing but sympathy for you guys, the White Sox deserve better

[@benjaminburt8725]

As a fellow Chicago native and diehard Sox fan, I couldn’t have worded it better myself. The problems start with Riensdorf, he needs to go asap. Whoever his replacement is needs to punch in the nuclear codes and blow it all up, I’ll treasure the 2021 season, the playoffs, the Field of Dreams game. But to see such a fall from grace in such a short time hurts.

[@Salvatore1268]

Hire Joe Girardi as manager

[@R2M_Productions]

“The Sox are the equivalent of a Mom and Pop shop” No, Mom and Pop shops put actually love and care into their product unlike the White Sox

[@UrinatingTree]

Some mom and pops don't give a shit. Most do, but some are up their own ass.

[@seanpoulton2446]

@@UrinatingTreeyet those shitty Mom and Pop shops still give more of a shit than the White Sox

[@sturmovik1274]

The Sox are the spoiled kid who is legally required to operate the Mom and Pop shop that's been in the community for over a century in order to inherit their estate, but doesn't even try to pretend to care about the shop's success or legacy.

[@tevinsherrill5653]

As a White Sox fan, this was long, long, LONG overdue.

[@miketoye2568]

Ownership absolutely stinks.

[@MichaelToye-mx8cl]

Facts

[@sendAJtospace]

Across the league, honestly.

[@saj8]

No lies.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Speaking of stinks, anyone remember The Critic? Now there’s a show that deserves a reboot more than most

[@coruscant100]

It's on par with the Oakland A's ownership.

[@shermanngjazz]

I remember that back in February I interviewed with the White Sox for a ticket sales trainee. I ended up getting rejected. Looking back, I'm glad that I didn't get the job because I definitely would've struggled selling tickets lol

[@MGAF688]

Whoever they hired sure as heck hasn't been getting the job done!

[@shermanngjazz]

@@MGAF688 Yeah I definitely dodged a bullet lol

[@DaKdawg]

the plus side I hear is that they are dirt cheap, so I kinda want to go dump some cash and get into vip while I can, but the experience won't be worth it, ya know.

[@celticwarrior8574]

Tree posted this when I'm about to head to the ballpark to see the Dead Sox is a blessing from the sports gods

[@davesecx]

Maybe the food will be good?

[@proa007]

@@davesecx The food is outstanding. So is the beer selection.

[@braddagon2503]

Just stay in Milwaukee. They're a real team with a better park (worse food, but not by much) and already have a great rivalry with the Cubs! They choke every year in the playoffs but at least they develop players and stay active in free agency and the trade market in an effort to compete!

[@All2Meme]

At least the Dead Sox won a series against the Deadbirds earlier in the season. Both teams are cringe.

[@tylerr6618]

Baseball in Chicago is so cursed, cubs waited 108 years for their title and the white Sox’s waited 88 years for their title

[@king_supreme1102]

But they’ve had the 21st century Bulls and Bears to look forward to at least…. Oh wait

[@NoXp3rt]

Feels like in the past decade almost sports in general in Chicago is super cursed What the fuck is going on. We're supposed to be a huge market and yet our teams are so shit that they're making worst of all time histories left and right.

[@bobjoe5937]

​@@NoXp3rtthe Blackhawks show at least some hope.

[@mbdg6810]

@@NoXp3rt other than the Cubs having a period of highly competitive baseball and a WS win, it's basically been hopeless.

[@2049571]

@@mbdg6810 No wonder the crime rate is rocketing up

[@andrewelliott1592]

At least the White Sox gave the world perhaps one of the most glorious moments of 21st century baseball: MLB At Field of Dreams.

[@RYMAN1321]

True, but also their 2005 World Series championship was amazing too, after 88 years.

[@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227]

@@RYMAN1321yup, absolutely dominated that post season too

[@wheeliebeast7679]

Let's not forget DeWayne Wise's miracle perfecto-saving catch in 2009.

[@jackhammer2506]

It's really fucking sad that the biggest moment this franchise has had in recent memory was in a cornfield in the middle of August in a series against the Yankees that they didn't even win..

[@Pojko]

@@jackhammer2506 They did win that game.

[@MazeDaGr8]

It's amazing how teams like the A's, Rockies, Pirates are run like shit yet even somehow they still look like major league baseball teams Meanwhile the White Sox somehow look like a Tee-ball team & even somehow that still feels too generous of a description

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

The Pirates were definitely this bad back in the mid aughts. Dave Littlefield has much to answer for.

[@RYMAN1321]

At least the White Sox have a few World Series championships, most recently the amazing 2005 championship.

[@weregretohio7728]

As bad as things sometimes feel in Cleveland... there's always a reminder of how much worse it can get.

[@daveatkins3796]

Imagine the A’s are now being used as the measuring stick to show how ass a team is.

[@thespaldo]

That 2005 master team feels like an eternity ago... Which may be because I was 8-9 years old in 2005, but that's neither here nor there. Unserious franchise indeed.

[@katherineberger6329]

The White Sox are so bad I literally forgot they've won the World Series in my lifetime.

[@PoipoleMujigae]

Makes me forget that I used to like them (despite having only been alive since 2004). Today, I’m a sad Mariners fan.

[@juanmanuelbonzano]

White Sox team record when Tree uploaded this video: 15-43. White Sox team record at season's end: 41-121. LOLSOX is so beautiful.

[@ssgaming9406]

As a White Sox fan everything you said was right on the money

[@brendankelly9037]

Sad but true

[@ClosDelg33]

This video makes me want a full vid on reinsdorf himself

[@squidparty2000]

I once asked him to do one but he said he’d do one specifically on the white Sox rather than the bulls. Maybe one day if the bulls disastrously fall apart lol

[@weakestlink20]

They really had something special going in the mid-late 2000s. For as mercurial as Ozzie Guillen was, he did deliver this franchise's best moment. Those mid-late 2000s teams didn't always play up to their potential but they were a fun and chaotic group.

[@brycemcneil4404]

The 2005 ChiSox team is such an underappreciated WS champion. That pitching staff was crazy good that year. They took their foot off of the gas pedal at the beginning of August and it didn't even remotely matter. And then they only lost one postseason game.

[@matthewhallberg8256]

I'm a Cubs fan, but Ozzie is HANDS DOWN my favorite White Sox manager. Just such a character. I love it

[@americanloyalist4599]

And that didn’t last

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@brycemcneil4404 I wouldn't quite say that - the Sox were 15 games up after winning on August 1 - 7.5 weeks later Cleveland had whittled this divisional lead down to 1.5 games, with 10 games left. The Cubsessed local sports media was largely drooling over arguably the biggest late-season collapse ever happening. Then karma hit those douchenozzles, the Sox got hot and didn't look back, finishing the season 8-2, or 19-3 playoffs included.

[@GeorgePlaysKing]

"The White Sox and Bulls are definitely the teams in the MLB and NBA"

[@dr.midnight-797]

1:43 The only time in baseball history a long title drought was broken and nobody cared.

[@fortynights1513]

Fun fact about the 2005 White Sox: In the ALCS, their starting pitchers threw four complete games in one playoff series vs the Angels. The only time that’s ever happened in a playoff round before the World Series, and I don’t think it’ll ever happen again.

[@warlordofbritannia]

I’m 85 percent certain the 2005 World Championship White Sox didn’t actually happen, that it’s a massive Mandela effect

[@TheRedBaron1917]

Tbh i dont think anyone ever has celebrated a single moment of joy at mobile phone park ​@warlordofbritannia

[@jordanwelch3832]

And we couldn’t even make it a series (houston) I mean it could’ve gone to 6 or 7 but I wanna say they just got lucky late in games

[@KiloOne]

Another fun fact: The day after the Sox won, the Sun-Times ran an editorial talking about when the Cubs will win the World Series. They’re so silver medal they can’t even be remembered when they get gold

[@Jeff.3]

Coming from a history buff, that john tyler reference is much appreciated, plus the fact he was born in the 1790s and still has a living grandson. Also my cubs might be in a skid but we're not the sox at least

[@alexmartinez5859]

Thank the great pitcher in the sky for small miracles. Our Cubbies might be bad, but we’re not White Sox Bad.

[@ryanjacobs836]

Funny enough up until playing the Sox they were the only team worse from May 1 on than the Sox were

[@fortynights1513]

Fun fact about the 2005 White Sox: In the ALCS, their starting pitchers threw four complete games in one playoff series vs the Angels. The only time that’s ever happened in a playoff round before the World Series, and I don’t think it’ll ever happen again.

[@MustacheDLuffy]

That’s why they’re so forgettable. Pitching so dominant and a 1 year wonder for the team

[@MustacheDLuffy]

That’s why they’re so forgettable. Pitching so dominant and a 1 year wonder for the team

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

No way haha!

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@MustacheDLuffy They may have not returned to the playoffs the next year, but they still won 90 games in 2006 (in a year the WS champ had only 83 wins), and won the division again in 2008. That's not exactly 1-year wonder-land

[@PoipoleMujigae]

I know that from SRS.

[@RookMeAmadeus]

9:30 - "I can't even say this is the nadir, since they'll dig even LOWER than this!" Coming back to this after the season ended. Holy hell you were so UNBELIEVABLY right on that one.

[@zyzzy-ko4ww]

If there were no such thing as lower than rock-bottom then Wile E. Coyote would never be a victim of misbehaving gravity.

[@adamd5849]

"The White Sox have gone full White Sox" was used by the Orioles broadcast after they made a mistake in the field

[@JusticeForPottsvilleMaroons]

As of this post (September 1st 2024), the White Sox have tied a franchise-record 106 losses with 25 games left to go. Not only are they on pace to overtake the 1962 Mets for most losses in the modern era (120), but they currently have a .226 win percentage, which would be the worst in the modern era of all time (the 1916 Philadelphia Athletics finished with .235). This is historically bad. My god.

[@thekingbarrelmaker7642]

And now they just set a franchise record for losses.

[@megarockman]

They had tied the Mets for 120 losses with 6 games to go. They did win somehow last night against the Angels, but they need two more in their next five to avoid supplanting the 1916 A's for worst modern-era record by percentage.

[@RatedRMario21]

I fondly remember the 05 World Series mostly because I lived in South Florida and we were in the aftermath of Hurricane Wilma. Getting an *actual* baseball game on a portable battery-operated TV instead of endless local news was a godsend

[@PoipoleMujigae]

2005 as a whole was remembered mostly for the Atlantic hurricane season, although it was the first full year of my life. Wilma peaked in intensity on my first birthday.

[@Harrja]

Thank you Tree for sharing how us Sox and Bulls fans feel. Jerry is the root of all of this mess and nothing will change until he’s gone.

[@petuniasevan]

Your video is aging like fine wine, Tree. It's stunning how bad this team is. Today it is 31-108 with, at this post, an 11-game losing streak. They were mathematically eliminated from contention on August 17th. The few fans who can stand to attend a game can seatgeek up $1 tickets. Remember the words from the movie Major League, "I didn't know Cleveland still had a team"? Well, I'm betting that the Southsiders understand that sentiment very well.

[@mightygerot4427]

The fact that the A’s and White Sox had a playoff series against each other a few years ago is crazy

[@wheeliebeast7679]

Comprising Oakland's most recent 3 home playoff games, the fact that no fans were in attendance seems normal - even long before one recalls that it was in 2020.

[@jasonkazin4058]

White Sox fan since day one… this video is the best thing to happen this season. I went to a recent home game and the highlight of the game was seeing an opposing foul ball decimate a $15 beer. It was half of the offense generated that afternoon. As always, Let’s Go White Sucks!

[@chrisj.9882]

One more element to add: the Sox let play-by-play announcer Jason Bennetti go. Obviously, this doesn't actually affect the quality of the team, but it hurts the fan experience. He was nearly universarlly loved and respected by Sox fans. He was their bright spot. He was well thought enough to also get national gigs. But one person didn't like how he called games: Reinsdorf. ANd just like he hires LaRussa because all that matters is his own opinion, Reinsdorf didn't want an announcer who would miss so many games because he had a national profile. Again, doesn't affect the quality of the team, but sure symbolizes the rotten fan experience with this owner.

[@PherretPhil13]

I'm right there with you, because my first thought was "there was no mention of Jason Benetti leaving for division rival Detroit? DETROIT?!?" He wasn't just loved by Sox fans. I'm a Cubs fan and you can insert any non-Sox fan's disdain for Hawk Harrelson here. But, of course, Reinsdorf has never been one for the "fan experience," case in point being that "cheap seats can't integrate" upper-deck policy at Comiskey. I'm not even going to mention the last 25 years or so of Bulls basketball. That, as has been mentioned multiple times in the comments already, is destined for a "Legacy of Failure" video.

[@jaytravtulsa1]

Jason is also a lifelong Sox fan from Homewood, IL, right in the core of the Sox SW suburban fan base 🙄

[@neilgoldberg547]

Tony La Russa with his hat titled to the right, that sums up the White Sox' last competitive window perfectly.

[@KalvinSingh]

They’ve done it! 20 straight losses 😂😂

[@MazeDaGr8]

This team is somehow even worse than the 1988 Orioles cuz at least that team had legit problems

[@Tornado1994]

@@MazeDaGr8 What about 2018 and 2019 Orioles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qF7dc4iohbyEpKc

[@jordancourtney9142]

The Tommy Pham incident against the brewers has to be the funniest sad baseball moment I’ve seen in a minute

[@mauruhkatigaming4807]

And they somehow got even WORSE after this video came out.

[@mjwatts1983]

21! (Count laugh, thunder & lightning) On pace for 38 wins… below the 1962 Mets. And their excuse was they were an expansion team! Currently at a .237 winning pct which slots them between the 1935 Boston Braves & 1916 Philadelphia Athletics! If you include teams before 1901, the win pct slots them between the 1886 versions of the Washington Nationals and Kansas City Cowboys! If they lose every game from this point forward, they’d finish better than the 1899 Cleveland Spiders (20-134 .130)

[@cube_030]

Berto's call to 1000AM will be evergreen

[@ShawstinAu]

I've been a diehard Chicago White Sox fan for nearly 40 years. I say that with the very express intent of sharing my deep and undying love for this team. And my call is rooted in heartbreak, not anger. Don't get me wrong, I'm angry, but it is a byproduct of a dysfunctional, abusive relationship with the front office and the ownership of the Chicago White Sox. I also want to say I have defended this rebuild. I liked what the team did with the trade. I defended Yasmani [Grandal] and Dallas [Keuchel]. I didn't understand the La Russa hire, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I forgave the free agents they let go. I was befuddled by the Benintendi and Clevinger signings. But you know what? I said I'm going to give them one last shot. And when they canceled Soxfest, like the cowards they are, I knew something was up. But now we know, obviously the experiment is over. The vast majority of the prospects have been busts. The product on the field is pathetic. We have exactly two players of excellence on this roster, Dylan Cease and Tim Anderson. Everyone else is nowhere near the kind of player they need to be to make this a winning team. ​ You'd think that would be enough to wake this organization up. But yesterday, Kenny Williams had the gall to say that he's not in a good place right now, and accountability is not an issue. You're right, he's not in a good place. He's not in a job he should have. Think about all the promises that Rick Hahn made, mired in mediocrity, that he bragged about Romy González in Spring Training, and I'll trade him if I get the right price. Think about the things Grifol said, "Come to the park, we're going to kick everyone's butts." They must have been talking about the fans! Not the other teams. The entire lineup is batting under .220. The best hitter on the team is Jake. Burger! We're a Triple A team. Our right fielders are hitting .180 with a weighted runs created plus (wRC+) of 28! I don't even need to tell you about the pitching staff. Katz has got to go. Moncada, TA, Eloy, Yas, Joe Kelly - it's week 4! They've all already been hurt! Tens of millions of dollars on replacement level players while stars go elsewhere. We're 11 games under .500. The Bears needed six months to get 11 games under .500. We needed three weeks. ​ In the 15 years of Rick Hahn, we have been a constant experiment that has never panned out. In the 25 years of Kenny Williams, we had exactly one season of excellence with a perfect storm of players that has not once come even close to being the same. I don't want to hear about the strength of schedule in April. With the money we spent, the players we have, playing .500 ball should be underachieving. Not 11 games under .500! We keep going after players that Rick Hahn liked five years ago. Lance Lynn, over the hill. Yas, over the hill. Benintendi, he wanted him in the draft six years ago. He's got a 0.1 WAR. Clevinger isn't just a clubhouse cancer, and a disgusting human being, he's a horrendous pitcher! Joe Kelly has been useless! We signed Vince Velasquez! Give me a break. John Jay, Yonder Alonso. Between [all of] them, that's 200 million on a bunch of black holes and an ERA of 240! ​ The entire organization is poisoned. The entire way that they go about their business is a failure. Firing Rick isn't enough. Firing Kenny isn't enough. If Chris Getz gets promoted and we have to sit through another 15 year retool/rebuild, you're just going to hear from me again in 2038! ​ I don't care if we go on a torrid winning streak in May and June and somehow get back to .500 ball, and then we scooch our way into the postseason in the Wild Card only to get bounced right away by a team that's actually good. We have no depth in our organization. One injury and we are done. This process isn't working. Our farm system has been in the bottom 10 for 45 years, aside from the one frame of time when they traded all our talent away and graduated them all right up - and then we were the worst again! There is one solution. In his final years, Jerry Reinsdorf, who, by the way, wouldn't even have the reputation he had if he hadn't have lucked upon Michael Jordan at #3 in 1984, has the courage to get rid of the yes men around him and fire everyone. He bought into the Chicago Bulls and the White Sox for $20 million. He's worth two billion now! He needs to use a fraction of that money he made on the backs of Chicago's blue collar baseball fans and pay for a front office to come and rebuild everything. ​ Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams cannot be trusted to rebuild this team again. They need to retire and go off into the sunset and play golf with the millions of dollars they made on their cushy paychecks for a job that they had a longer leash for than any executive in the history of the modern era of baseball. Let someone qualified come in and run this team. At this point, we would need a historic turnaround to even be mildly relevant. Everyone said the AL Central was weak, and it might be in comparison to others. But the Sox aren't better than the Guardians or the Twins. We're not even better than the Royals! And the fact that we're only incrementally better than the Tigers is exactly the indictment on this organization that we need. The lack of success that this roster has [had] is a referendum of what we've already seen in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2015 and 16. And the excruciating last seven years that only led to this. I mean, [Steve] Stoney is more worried about Lance Lynn eating a salad than the entire organization not knowing how to teach Major League prospects how to hit a baseball!

[@route2070]

Probably also worth mentioning Reinsdorf wants a new stadium. He has said they need more parking. They don't need it.

[@UrinatingTree]

Dude they have so much damn parking you could build another stadium on it

[@route2070]

@@UrinatingTree tell the Bears that.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

@@route2070 They’ll still demand billions for it; as if, they’re still not in debt for the abominable 2003 renovation of Soldier Field…

[@wheeliebeast7679]

​@@UrinatingTree And it wasn't even full during 2005 World Series games 1 or 2. The parking footprint has remained roughly the same since the 1990s when the stadium had a 44.3K capacity; after a brief increase to 47K coinciding with the 2003 All-Star game (lower level seating was permanently expanded), it's been 40.6K since 2004 when they chopped off the much maligned top portion of the upper deck that seemingly reached to the stratosphere.

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 ....even though the State of Illinois already owns all that property, so they could get it for little if not free!

[@formuoli1396]

As an aspiring horror director, I wanna make a torture themed movie where the main character is a White Sox fan. I think that alone is pretty scary.

[@stevenlewis4556]

As a former WhiteSox season ticket holder, I’ve waited over a year for this video. I was starting to wonder if Tree would just wait until the WhiteSox break the 1962 Mets’ modern record for most losses in a season of 120. At 15-43 & on a 9 game losing streak, it’s definitely in play.

[@aidenawe9359]

They have the 5th toughest schedule in the league. At some point they will win against weaker teams. It’s hard to break the 1962 Mets.

[@stevenlewis4556]

@@aidenawe9359 Which is funny, because I’ve been told for years now how easy and winnable the AL Central is.

[@JohnZoni]

Back after the White Sox became the 1st team since the expansion '62 Mets to lose 120 games in a season. Wonder if we'll get a "Conglaturations, White Sox" follow up from Tree if/when they get to 121....

[@thekingbarrelmaker7642]

At least the 1962 Mets had a legitimate excuse for being that bad.

[@JohnZoni]

@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 Very true

[@danielafshar]

Loss 21! Give it up for loss 21!

[@prickly10000]

*SeatGeek emails about another sponsored video* Tree: " Time to roast another poor fan base!"

[@kevinwong1988]

I’m here because the White Sox has recorded 121st loss, breaking 1962 Mets 120 loss season. Conglaturations White Sox.

[@DuelistMaster9]

As a long time subscriber and a suffering White Sox fan, thanks for the video, Tree! This is a long awaited video. Watching the White Sox is a masochist's dream. Channeling my inner masochism, I watched them last week against the Orioles. Initially, the Sox were up 3-0 (yes, they were leading). My question is not even if, it is when they are going to blow the lead. Then, glass cannon Michael Blow-pe... I mean Kopech allowed the game winning run. After the game and dinner in Chinatown (Chinatown is close to Guaranteed Rate Field), I manage to find Orioles fans, and tell them, "Do you know the Orioles MVP is? Michael Kopech!" Sadly, that is the most fun thing I did for that day. Now, we will see if Jerry Reinsdorf can even one down against the John Fisher and move the team somewhere as a big middle finger to Sox fans.

[@michaelshean7972]

As a die hard White Sox fan I needed to hear this

[@vgtrp]

Since this video came out, things have only gotten worse. They had an AL tying 21 game losing streak, and the manager getting fired.

[@ShadowFalcon19]

THEY DID IT! THE WHITE SOX BROKE THE RECORD FOR THE MOST LOSSES IN THE SEASON!

[@alexfrenette2782]

The White Sox make the A's look competent... And I don't even need to get into details about the A's...

[@MazeDaGr8]

With how the White Sox aren they make the current day As look like those teams that had Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@MazeDaGr8 The White Sox look like the MC Hammer A’s

[@brendanlynn6637]

To be fair Crochet looks like to be a future ace, but he will be traded in the next three years.

[@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

Was wondering why you didn't make a video on the White Sox last year, but seeing the state their in now, I think it makes sense.

[@RangersNation-qk4px]

you are everywhere

[@blairiscute7311]

Back here again after they lost 121 games which they now broke the MLB record for the most losses in a season

[@AutoArtemAuto]

Ever since the Astros released Abreu, they've been playing above .500 and are closing in on the Mariners.

[@BG.994]

Do the Bulls next. Same Reinsdorf incompetence

[@TrevorBelmont-VampireHunter]

At least with the Bulls, they can justifiably point to injuries. Injuries that happen *every gorram year* but, hey, best I can do for Pennygrubber Reinsdorf.

[@BG.994]

@@TrevorBelmont-VampireHunter having Lonzo back won’t really change much for the team when they already have their backcourt of the future with Ayo and Coby. They need to trade Zach, Demar, and Vuc

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@TrevorBelmont-VampireHunter Injuries have also been a huge part of the problem for the last 5 years of the Sox, an issue this video does not ignore. And up until the late 2010s, the Sox had for the entirety of Rein$dorf's ownership tenure the most out-of-shape possible dude as head athletic trainer, Herm Schneider. The 4 Sox seasons preceding 2005 also featured enough injury problems to get most head trainers fired, but Rein$dorf values loyalty over competence so Herm stayed. I don't think it's a coincidence that their World Series win came courtesy a roster with an unusually high number of players in their 1st year with the broader organization.

[@TrevorBelmont-VampireHunter]

@@BG.994 They don't need to. They can use this as a throwaway year and retool after. Contractually and strategically, it does work out best that way imo

[@Rjwubs]

Imagine being Tommy Pham, going from a World Series team to the White Sox

[@StephCurryMcFlurry96]

Miguel Vargas, too.

[@minutemanthezealoustiger1499]

This aged well, and I mean WELL. Poor saps.

[@richardlopez81]

100 losses; you are being generous.

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

Thats their floor

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@Bu11yMagu1re I think you meant ceiling

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

@@warlordofbritannia no 100 losses is the minimum hence the floor. Ceiling would be 110+ losses.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@Bu11yMagu1re Oh, I get it 😂

[@wheeliebeast7679]

I don't know how the hell this team went 11-8 in the 19 games following their 3-22 start. Damn this team for teasing me with that.

[@IanOnTheDL]

When two of my favorite sports teams are the White Sox and Commanders it's a wonder why I still continue to watch sports

[@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227]

how in the hell did that happen? honestly the bears aren’t much better than the commanders so we’re in the same boat here

[@kaiuche8640]

As a fellow self hating Washington fan I feel you. I’d say I have the dodgers but they just fill in the one area Washington can’t: playoff futility

[@TheSonicsean]

Good news for the White Sox. They won't lose 101 games this year. Because they've already lost 110

[@kevinwong1988]

Damn you A's. How dare you break the White Sox losing streaks.

[@MCham52]

"The John Tyler of World Series Championships" is just flat-out brilliant!! Comparison and Reference both get Perfect 10s!!

[@justinnzamora5366]

As of 9/22/2024, the 2024 White Sox have collected their 120th L. The 2003 Detroit Tigers can rest easy knowing they're not the worst MLB team of the 21st century.

[@paulwartenberg8479]

they've reached 120 losses by Sept. 22nd, setting the AL record and tying the 1962 Mets' horrid inaugural season. And there's six games to go.

[@mjwatts1983]

Swept the Angels Got L #121 in series opener vs playoff bound Tigers

[@zachcasper1929]

i grew up a white sox fan all of my life, born and bred. i’m 21 years old now and have been a diehard fan since i was 11. no more. they don’t care anymore, jerry doesn’t care, grifol doesn’t care, nobody cares. jerry reinsdorf has genuinely killed my love for the game of baseball. i won’t scream, i won’t yell, i’m just gonna quietly pack up and move my fandom north side.

[@hlmfromdao]

Switching to a cubs fan?

[@DarkNess6030]

I too become a Brewers fan when the Sox get me too depressed

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@hlmfromdao Us Sox fans would largely self-immolate before doing that, and I don't mean that 100% jokingly. Such behavior is highly unusual.

[@DaDitka]

​This is true. Which just goes to show how truly bad this situation is, and how there is no light at the end of the tunnel. I'll probably remain a fan myself but honestly, I don't care anymore. If they stay, or move, or win, or lose, or whatever, fine with me. And if this makes me a non-fan (as one fo ol told me some time ago on another video), okay, I'm a non-fan. I couldn't care less about his opinion of me. I guess... go Sox(?)

[@jakebizzell6580]

And now they’ve hit 120… with 6 games to go.

[@captaincortez4917]

You know you have problems when you earn 100 losses faster than the best teams earned *80* wins.

[@augustacovington481]

As of the time of this post the White Sox are now 36-120 passing the 2003 Detroit Tigers for the most losses in American League history and tying the 1962 New York Mets for the most losses in a 162 game season, lose 1 more game and they will be the worst team in modern baseball.

[@thatonefan_1371]

a tree video on the white sox? god i needed this

[@metaljay77]

I really wish we could find some way to have a random fan run a team for a year. In reality it wouldn't work due to logistics. But in theory you gave them the important decisions like hiring/firing and all player decisions, you could probably easily build a middle of the pack team. Sucking this bad is hard to do.

[@DumbTiger]

They literally just gave up 23 hits tonight. Should have been 20+ runs if my Brew Crew didn’t leave 14 runners on base

[@underclas]

The White Sox were 15-43 when this video came out they are now 27-86 as i type this. In two months this team has won 12 games. The only thing making the Sox watchable is Ozzie Guillen getting drunk at the end of the post game.

[@kellancarney810]

Oh their watchable, but just to laugh our asses off at them

[@moonjelly5]

The Sox are now 31-105 and are comfortably on the path to have the worst record ever.

[@underclas]

@@moonjelly5 and now the white Sox have gone FULL white sox

[@brandonlf2]

August 17th, 2024 - the White Sox are eliminated from playoff contention.

[@underclas]

This comment somehow keeps getting worse

[@roberthormann9922]

As a White Sox fan I can confirm 2 things 1. Tony La Russo was hired because he is friends with Jerry Reinsdorf. 2. Pedro Grifol was hired because Rick Hahn wanted to use Grifol to convince Benintendi to sign with the White Sox

[@joemana8142]

Being a sox fan who was very young when they last won in 05 and thus has no memories of the good times, only the awful, its about time we got ripped to shreds, this franchise, and especially ownership and front office are completely unserious, being worse than the openly tanking Oakland Atheltics is bad but whats even worse is that despite being located in the 3rd largest American city we still never bother to splurge on top free agents, and even if most in the city are cubs fans, there is a very devoted sect of the population who love the sox and this team, when they are good, can get asses in the seats and thus, money to spend, this team also cant develop prospects, the one time we had a top farm system we called everyone up and immediately went to have an awful farm system, and not to mention the majority of our prospects have been busts. The day Jerry is gone might be a better day for Chicago than when Dollar Bill bit the dust.

[@Relentlezz41]

Jerry is like my grandfather. Aside taxes and gas prices, hasn't changed since the 90s

[@shoeless1137]

We need another video once they break the record

[@UrinatingTree]

It's in the works.

[@mauruhkatigaming4807]

@@UrinatingTree If I were you I'd hold out for them breaking the 1916 A's record for worst winning percentage, the one that will make them the worst team since the 1899 Cleveland Spiders. They need to go .500 over their last 6 games, which, LOL, they're not doing that.

[@bw-leftturnracing7779]

​@@mauruhkatigaming4807 they can't beat the As record anymore because they decided to sweep the Angels

[@johnturner7952]

Who’s watching this after the White Sox lost their 121st game?

[@ninersdd21]

Also almost 45 year anniversary of the MLB's most notable hooliganism event: Disco Demolition Night!

[@leifopstad2972]

Either that or 10 Cent Beer Night in Cleveland

[@ninersdd21]

@@leifopstad2972 LOL that turns 50 today!

[@brycelandon3699]

Who's here now that the White Sox have lost 120 games?

[@SirOreo_]

121 a new record

[@indianabp]

Reinsdorf has made the late Dollar Bill Wirtz look like Mark Cuban...you know how impossible that is?

[@indianabp]

Not only is he seeking public dollars for a new stadium, he's moving the Sox and Bulls (and piggybacking the Blackhawks) to a new regional sports network starting this fall...when most of them (RSN's)are going bankrupt!

[@nohbuddy1]

This was my grandpa's team and it always hurts seeing them suck so bad. Glad he got 2005

[@youlesie23]

31-108. They have to go 11-12 just to equal the expansion Mets for the most losses in a season. They need to go 12-11 to equal the 2003 Tigers for least wins in a 162 game season. They broke their franchise record for losses in a season on the first day of September. They just had their first 0-10 homestand in history. They broke the record for the earliest playoff elimination in the divisional era. It says a lot that they still have to play a mediocre Red Sox, the A’s who are deliberately being run into the ground, and two series against a god-awful Angels team and I STILL have no faith in them to win 5 games, let alone 11. This is a team that has had a 21 game losing streak, a 14 game losing streak and an 11 game losing streak (and counting). Take those out and they’d still have the worst winning percentage in baseball. They’ve won 4 games since the All Star break. 7 games since the start of July. Their run differential is on track to be the worst since the war. Hell they may even end up having the worst run differential in the entire live ball era at this rate. This was a franchise who as late as 2021 was viewed as a young, exciting team with genuine World Series aspirations. 3 years later we’re here. If this somehow goes lower, then god help us all.

[@UHOH_415]

I thought getting rid of Tony La Russa was gonna help them. Nope. They got worse somehow. Daily reminder that this is owned by the same dude who runs the Bulls. Yeah.

[@dr.midnight-797]

Reinsdorf was/is an MJ merchant.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Of course they’d be even worse if LaRussa was still hanging around. Imagine that.

[@wheeliebeast7679]

Rein$dorf is the one dude that proves that an owner can win 7 championships to his name in spite of himself. See also: why Jerry Jones has 3 championships as an owner.

[@ahogg5960]

​​@@wheeliebeast7679 And yet Bulls fans boo Jerry Krause's widow and not Reinsdorf. Even though it's pretty obvious that Reinsdorf was holding the purse strings and Krause got the tag of "bad guy" thanks to The Last Dance. Fans are the worst. Sometimes.

[@bostonsports8080]

Jordan was right about him after all.

[@KalvinSingh]

4:04 “DOWN GOES ANDERSON! DOWN GOES ANDERSON!”

[@ErikZarins]

I was at the game....despite the loss it was DAMN beautiful

[@SpiralSine6]

For fucks sake no wonder why the White Sox can’t win this year, we benched our goon now who will take the fights for us

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@SpiralSine6 He's gone because his performance went immediately into the toilet when he started having marital problems, and hasn't recovered since.

[@tthomaselli2]

UrinatingTree- As a Chicago baseball fan, I was rather surprised to see this video come up when I first opened the KZbin app on my phone, this morning... Thanks, a lot.

[@danielafshar]

Loss 121! Give it up for loss 121!

[@dannyday7072]

Ah yes President William Van Buren

[@Rutherford12]

Don't forget Martin Harrison. Just 30 days in office

[@warlordofbritannia]

Not to be confused Henry Harding

[@TheRedBaron1917]

Ain't he the one that croaked after eating cherries? What kindof a way to go is that? Imagine living in a time when you could get bumped off by some cherries. Skill issue

[@bmac4]

Thats how forgettable Van Buren was lol

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@TheRedBaron1917 Nah, that was Zachary Tyler, not to be confused with John Taylor.

[@arcticphoenix2789]

I love the Impractical Jokers reference. This team is the biggest dumpster fire in North American Sports right now.

[@bellabell6659]

This team made the playoffs with like 90+ wins not even 4 years ago btw

[@dougg2012]

The White Sox were 27-67 at one point, and it was kind of up in the air as to if they’d lose 120 games. It was possible, but not likely. That was on July 10th. The White Sox have lost 21 straight games since then. Now, it’s almost a certainty they break the record for losses in a season. They are 27-88.

[@kellancarney810]

21 in a row, God damn they suck

[@PoipoleMujigae]

29-92

[@moonjelly5]

31-105

[@petuniasevan]

31-108 and mired in an 11-game losing streak. But you can attend a game for $1 ! 🤕

[@moonjelly5]

@@petuniasevan Wow, I attended an A's game for more. I got 3 rows behind the visitor dugout for $84 on the day they brought out the surviving members of the 74 championship to celebrate.

[@picklespenguin6256]

Being a White Sox, Bulls, and Bears fan has been horrifically rough these past 5-10 years

[@All2Meme]

I feel sorry for you all up there. It seems like Chicago has generally fallen into rack and ruin as a whole. We're not doing any better down here in St. Louis, though. Maybe I-55 is the Highway to Hell after all.

[@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227]

trust me, us sox fans are just ready for jerry to kick the bucket, the only way this organization will gain some kind of respect

[@All2Meme]

I think he may have pulled a Virginia McCaskey and put his soul into a phylactery so that he too can become an eternal lich.

[@SpiralIntoAVoid]

This has aged quite well. As well as the perfectly still sealed up bottle of alcohol that were pulled up from a ship wreck under the sea for over 100 years.

[@TinyMorgToon]

I love the use of the Super Mario Sunshine music.

[@johndavis9213]

I married into both my White Sox and Bears fandom, and I can say with almost absolute certainty that the McCasky family thanks god in their prayers every night for Reinsdorf making them look like goddamn geniuses by comparison

[@666kingdrummer]

You forgot the best part, this team wants a new Stadium and wanted the public to pay for the whole thing. All 1.7 Billion of it.

[@UrinatingTree]

I heard the bargain price of only $1 billion. Did he change it?

[@Harmonmj13]

@@UrinatingTree I think its still $1 billion the Sox are asking for, but some reports in April said Jerry was willing to propose to help pay for part of the stadium with his own money which knowing how cheap this a-hole is, its probably gonna be like 40% or lower while the state foots the rest of the bill.

[@Hiei2k7]

@@UrinatingTree I think that was thrown about due to The 76 project.

[@wheeliebeast7679]

@@Hiei2k7 *78, not 76. The name is based on it being an unofficial addition to Chicago's 77 official Community Areas, some of which correspond to actual neighborhoods, some of which don't. (And even when they do match they often have weird and/or obsolete names, just look up the official names for Pilsen and for Little Village).