How The White Sox Were Ruined By The Braves ‘Strategy’

[@alexstone4729]

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[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Aye thanks brother! Appreciate you 💪🏻🔥

[@bd1zzle]

I try different videos and all but I like comedy and since Pujos left the angels to be in LA, queer, I’ve been off/on with baseball. Football is where I waste brain cells learning the news and all. I’ve slowly been getting back into baseball more the last 3 years. Seeing trout injured constantly or striking out then out of no where ohtani goes to LA and no more Asians at the game 😂😂😂

[@JoeSaidWut]

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[@av7899]

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[@bd1zzle]

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[@Harrja]

The common denominator between them and the Bulls is Jerry…

[@GoldGlove2720]

Yup. He got lucky with Jordan and literally caught lightning in a bottle in 05 with the Sox. Other than that they have been terrible.

[@ChiefBlue4298]

@@GoldGlove2720exactly!

[@wcarlosbrown]

Thank you. Cheap ass jerry Is #1 and #3 issue

[@wcarlosbrown]

​@@GoldGlove2720he got l lucky with drafting scottie and '05

[@rancidrhino4315]

True. Jerry Seinfeld is absolutely funny! Seinfeld was better than friends

[@kylefunderburk4194]

Teams are replicating the Braves when it comes to contracts, but they're not at all replicating the Braves when it comes to coaching and team management. Look at Travis D'Arnaud and Jesse Chavez, and now Jared Kelenic. Players get better when they join Atlanta. D'Arnoud cited a reunion with one of his formative coaches about a month ago, and Chavez's tendency to struggle everywhere except Atlanta is well documented. Manager Brian Snitker deserves praise as well. A good example was within the first 2 weeks of this season. The Braves got shafted with some obviously bad calls that prevented some early runs. Social media was abuzz, calling for Snitker to show more emotion, stand up for his guys and have it out with the umpire. Instead, Snitker stayed in the dugout. The Braves offense eventually exploded and the team won the game comfortably. That's not to say Snitker never stands up for his guys against bad officiating, but he picks his spots because he trusts his guys to overcome. His leadership as a manager is a big reason why the Braves have had the funniest-looking dugout in baseball over the last few years. In turn, many former Braves who only had a cup of coffee in Atlanta have made their love of the Braves organization well known.

[@Arientis]

Well said

[@connorharvey3127]

Kelenic has an OPS+ 30 points lower than last year lmao

[@soulknife20]

@@connorharvey3127 He's also not playing as much as he did last year. Lmao. He's platooning with Adam Duvall. Lmao. Maybe check you the roster and the games.

[@NewNewColt]

@@soulknife20 Statistically Kelenic is the same player as last year stop being salty for no reason.

[@devinmorrison2993]

Rick Renteria deserved to see out that rebuild. I swear they would only play for him.

[@atm1919]

Rick got the shaft by the soxs and the cubs

[@cmkelly842]

This was Rick’s team not Tony’s and that move alone is why the team completely collapsed

[@GuyrillaBraun]

It's crazy how big of an impact a this man had on 2 rebuilding franchises in the same city.

[@MeargleSchmeargle]

It's not the fact that the Chisox tried the Braves strategy that caused their downfall, it was absolutely rotten execution. Tony La Russa is no Brian Snitker, Rick Hahn is most certainly no Alex Anthopolous, and most importantly, the Braves aren't saddled with a geriatric owner like Reinsdorf. A lot of people seem to take issue with the fact that the Braves are owned by Liberty Media since they themselves don't spend much on the Braves, but LM also doesn't really get tangled with team affairs. The ones in the organization with real power are Terry McGuirk and Alex Anthopolous, the baseball people. Alex in particular is an avid scouter, and knows exactly who he wants and when. Even when nobody else considers the moves he makes, he does his homework and gets the exact guy who will fit right in with the program. There's also Snitker and the coaching staff he's surrounded with. They're rock stars, and in Snitker's case, the players would do just about anything for him. He keeps the vibes immaculate and is a calm, stabilizing presence where La Russa was simply a lightning rod for controversy. Atlanta is known for having best in the business scouting, coaching, and a reputation for success. The Chisox don't come close in terms of approach. They may have attempted to emulate Atlanta's secret formula, but they simply don't have the right mindset as long as Reinsdorf is the one holding the reins of power.

[@rolandomedina9773]

That is pretty dumb. Atlanta won only one championship since WHITE SOX rebuild. And it was at the same time. So no. WHITE SOX didn't try to copy Braves strategy. In the 90's both were good teams as well. But remember the Braves won in like 1957 or 56 but not in Atlanta. In Milwaukee. So it's not a fact. It was happening at the same time. Reason I say it was a curse. It's about karma.

[@rolandomedina9773]

Let me add. Atlanta may be good . But not great Atlanta doesn't have another MLB team in the same City nor State. And yes like AA in Atlanta.

[@briansolo]

@@rolandomedina9773 what does that have to do with anything?

[@briansolo]

@@rolandomedina9773 what? The Braves 2021 championship still happened. Is the same team expected to win the WS every year? The Braves have won 6 straight division titles. Furthermore, Atlanta won a World Series in 1995.. in Atlanta.

[@fullcircle8231]

@rolandomedina9773 Atlanta is one of the best teams in MLB... of the last 30 years💀. To say they're "good not great" just tells us all that you're either being disingenuous due to a bias perhaps, or you're just plain ignorant.

[@platinumspike9578]

The similarities between the 2020-2022 White Sox to this years Red Sox organization is chilling to say the least. Signing young players early into their careers, front office not building on a solid core, injuries and inconsistency wracking the team; this could spell another Sox disaster. Hopefully the front office will learn from the mistakes of Chicago (Garrett Cooper and Dom Smith are a good start) and pull themselves out of the free fall they’re in.

[@llee8825]

The Red Sox in their worst season will always be 100x better than the White Sox's poverty organization. 😂 The White Sox are doomed by an incompetent, senile, arrogant owner named Jerry Reinsdorf who has lived too long.

[@nochey78]

@@llee8825 as a white Sox fan…..I CONCUR!!!!

[@MustacheDLuffy]

Isn’t Garrett copper below the Mendoza line?

[@warlordofbritannia]

Except the Red Sox haven’t deluded themselves into thinking they’re currently contenders. The White Sox also had the same front office for nearly 25 years (and thus same problems), while the Sox have become instable yet nonetheless cycle highly regarded executives throughout the organization.

[@thatguy27988]

Somehow failed to mention the biggest culprit in this equation Jerry Reinsdorf

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

He was mentioned in the La Russa situation. Completely his fault

[@aidenawe9359]

@@PurelyBaseballYTyour absolutely right. Rick Hahn didn’t want TLR. I think he wanted AJ Hinch at the time.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

@@aidenawe9359 Yep. He wanted Hinch or Cora

[@dark_knight_3304]

@@PurelyBaseballYTtwo cheater wouldn’t have made this franchise any better Tony wasn’t the problem the problem was no player development in the minor leads to player relying on pure talent now the clown in charge of player development at the time is now in charge of the team

[@nochey78]

@@dark_knight_3304it doesn’t matter… a Hinch or Cora hire would’ve still made more sense than hiring an absolute Relic who hadn’t been in a dugout in almost a decade.. The game passed Tony LaRussa by… and it showed. His hire contributed to the White Sox problems. But the REAL PROBLEM with this organization is the relic at the very top..

[@ethanhybl7807]

Great video but you also failed to mention the that the Braves had several all star level vets on the roster and almost every year bring in a vet for a year or so to help the team. The Braves clubhouse vibe/chemistry is immaculate. Keeping Jesse Chavez, and Charlie Morton shows out important good guys on the team is. The on the field performance is a plus.

[@willpina]

Markakis was also an important part of the Braves rebuild

[@pooloftim8263]

lol they get rid of Jesse Chavez every offseason, only to get him back within a few months…same with Duvall.

[@christianlw5252]

Don't forget management. Snicker has been in the Braves organization for like 37 years. So the management has bought into the vision and so have the players.

[@CrashPK77]

Couple quick notes: Yermin was not a "star". After he unretired, he got a shot with the Giants and couldn't cut it even as a DH, let alone at catcher. Also, Vaughnie isn't an OF; he's a 1B. They stuck him in RF because they had no one else out there, and had Jose Abreu still at 1B.

[@ianhacek6002]

Yeah as a Sox fan, the Yermin part was the worst minute of the video. No way we still have fans crying on his behalf

[@Madskillsuniversity]

The Bulls and White Sox have been ruined by ONE MAN!

[@Dodgers-sw2uk]

The difference was player development. The White Sox traded for their top farm they didn’t develop them. While the Braves and Dodgers both developed their talent. And because of that the Braves and Dodgers have had top farms for a 10 year stretch. One great batch of prospects isn’t enough to build what the Braves or Astros built, you need at least 2 and most likely 3 really good batches back to back to back

[@geraldZ07]

The only thing I remember from the previous White Sox season was "Down goes Anderson" speaks to how almost nothing can be salvaged from that poor campaign. At this decadent pace of the White Sox, I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the same or worse than Oakland, and the latter is currently third in its division, something very surprising.

[@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227]

oakland is one solid run from being a .500 team, the sox have no chance of being better than them this season

[@geraldZ07]

@@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227 I agree, Oakland is hanging around aspiring to a .500 season. I'll be honest, I'd like to see them in the postseason, but that's being pretentious 😅

[@truthteller4442]

I actually think if Hahn was allowed to be a full GM with complete operational control, he would’ve done great things. He did some very good things and had some great ideas. Unfortunately, numbnuts Kenny Williams was the President of the White Sox at that time and he still had control. Also, Reinsdorf if notoriously cheap and didn’t allow him to go out and get certain pieces he needed. The White Sox are a horribly run organization from top to bottom. Also, Tony La Russa gets a lot of crap, but he was the least of their problems. He was right about Yermin Mercedes, and Mercedes is an idiot. You don’t show up your opponents, because that team will eventually throw a 95mph baseball at your head.

[@aidenawe9359]

Jerry is cheap but not notorious cheap. I agree with the poorly run organization and your statement about Rick Hahn.

[@bochafish]

Excellent comment. I would agree with Jerry being cheap. We missed on Soriano, a couple others, and more recently Machado. We were severely outbid every time we've gone for a big free agent. And man, Robin Ventura, LaRussa, Grifol.. Jerry picks the worse managers at the worse times.

[@BakedSports]

Rebuilding them in mlb been tough

[@BrutusJrThe3rd]

Facts. Big facts

[@siberian13]

Part of the problem is their core players like Kopech, Anderson, Moncada, Himenez, and Robert, could never stay healthy. On paper their batting lineup should have been a murders row. Instead, they’re all constantly injured and constantly missing games.

[@tristonwebb7045]

9:21 a Braves team without injured Acuna, and injured and short staffed starting pitching etc. part of the braves success has been the constant depth and ability to get production out of a new or couple young guys each season when needed

[@fallen4life080]

Injuries destroyed the Sox rebuild, they could never rely on anyone. Robert and Moncada and until recently Eloy were out AGAIN. When they come back theyre still going to need to adjust.

[@horsemeattball]

The Braves have very few critical injuries. If you believe the crap they sell on ESPN, its because they have special training that keeps players in the game. Longtime fans know better. The Braves use all kind of pills to maintain that. It's no secret among the people playing the game.

[@jesusmanueltiradovazquez9514]

They never invested in the team...what can you expect

[@fallen4life080]

@@jesusmanueltiradovazquez9514 The Orioles haven't really invested in their team either other than signing Corbin Burns to 15 million. Yet they're one of the best teams in the majors. They acquired a lot of their prospects either through trades and a handful of them through drafts, but nonetheless, they did 80% of the same thing we did. The difference is, injuries.

[@jesusmanueltiradovazquez9514]

@@fallen4life080 true but the orioles didnt go crazy giving away they players they have kept their core..they developed them..THE sox went crazy giving away everybody

[@Extinguisher10]

Tony La Russa was an amazing manager, but those days ended before he arrived with the White Sox

[@fallen4life080]

the biggest issue has always been injuries. It led to inconsistencies in development, growth, morale, and chemistry. Imagine what the Orioles would be if Henderson tore his hip flexor and was out till August, and then when he got back he started slow all while simultaneously Rutschman tore his pectoral muscle and was out till August. Then, ext season, imagine they BOTH again were gone every few weeks with leg issues and back issues? The all of a sudden Santander has a groin issue and is out for 2 months?

[@jakepiper4289]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jonathanward1263]

Not only are teams trying to mimmick the Braves strategy, but now everyone is trying to build a year long complex like they did..

[@razfilms1]

It’s very upsetting as a sox fan. We’re the forgotten team in the MLB and Jerry continues to fuck over the team. My biggest fear is them moving to Nashville, and after seeing what happened with the A’s, it makes me more scared than ever. If they leave, I might be straight up done with baseball

[@fallen4life080]

I dont understand how Sox fans and others dont realize that the even bigger culprit other than JR is injuries. Everytime our guys got injured it set back their development, chemistry, morale, and mechanics. then they come back and slowly pick up the pace and then before you know it 3 other guys go down putting more weight on other players. Every team has injuries.....but have you noticed how ONLY our prospects were the ones getting injured alll the time?

[@tonyhill1141]

When they traded Burger for nothing and then Jason left it really was a gut punch.

[@jeremiah_12]

Just root for the Cubs. Some A’s fans are now rooting for the Giants.

[@johnmatthew8710]

@@tonyhill1141 Have you seen Burger's stats this year? Hitting below the Mendoza line and had to be moved to 1B since his glove was so bad at 3B. Yeah, the pitching prospect Miami sent to Chicago in the trade has been getting roughed up as a 25 year old in AA ball, making it look like him even making it to the majors is probably unrealistic at this point. He was highly regarded at the time though, and Burger is still a flawed player with serious limitations.

[@matthewruzanski]

@@jeremiah_12 I will die with the sox before ever rooting for the cubs

[@nb_nic]

I'm still early on so apologies if you mention this but signing Eloy to a 6 year deal before he's played any big league ball is exactly the sort of deal the braves would never make. All of their deals look to buy out at least a couple free agency years, basically rolling the 'extra' that they pay during what would be the remaining league minimum and arbitration years into added value by securing free agency. the really long length of the Braves' contracts are one of the biggest keys, because when you do have a success story like Ronald or Ozzie, it's easier to sit them down for an extension 6 years into a possibly 9 year contract after they've already proven themselves and would've been free agents at this point anyways.

[@GuyrillaBraun]

Can't devolep players while they're sitting in the trainers room with injury after injury. As someone who has watched the Sox for 30 years, they tend to always have one huge problem when it comes to prospects in the minors. They all play the same position, Sheets, Burger, and Vaughn are all 1B/DH players. They had this problem in the late 90's/early 2000's when every prospect was a corner outfielder, or the mid 2000's when everyone played 2nd or Short. And they're never able to correctly leverage that depth in trades, and end up trading from thin positions like trading 2nd baseman Nick Madrigal to the Cubs for Kimbrel when we already had signed Hendriks. (I know Madrigal was hurt at the time of the trade, so maybe not the best example.) I don't think the execution of extending players was bad either, 6yr/$43M for Eloy is not a ton of money. We were a team that was loaded with talent and had a lot of things going right. Unfortunately, our owner is Jerry Reinsdorf, who is extremely loyal to relics of the past and feels the need to hire his old friends for prominent positions. Yermin wasn't a "star player", but he was playing like a star for us, and he had his confidence shattered and was publicly called out and admonished by the person on the team whose job is to look out for his players and back his players. LaRussa was ill-fit to manage a team in the year 2021, and showed often that he didn't understand baseball or the players who played the game any more. The Sox as a franchise fumbled the bag a few times in this stretch, but it was all being fumbled away daily by the dinosaur owner and the dinosaur manager. Also somebody should go see if anyone on the Sox training staff has a medical license, because they gotta be doing something wrong with those players.

[@Mamss_]

Rick Hahn actually started this strategy before AA. Dating back to Salle and Quintana

[@orangefox1231]

Backing up your points which were excellent, I remember when Pittsburgh gave Bryan Reynolds a 9 figure deal, I was surprised to see that one of the three teams remaining that had never given a 9-figure deal was the White Sox. I hadn’t realized they were that frugal or arguably cheap and I think that is what led them to offering guys contracts super early. They wanted 3 massive discounts when the smarter move would’ve been to do what Atlanta did with Acuna. He played in 2018, the Braves had enough data to believe he would continue to be a great player and then paid him. Same with Ozzie Albies.

[@Jaguar51995]

I remember thinking when they fired Renteria that it would be their undoing, I didn't actually think it would happen this badly though

[@SoraMatt]

You might as well be talking about the 2024 Toronto Blue Jays at this rate. The parallels are uncanny. Not necessarily in signing players but in terms of illogical management and running back the same team as last year and having the same problems but worse.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Super true.

[@aidenawe9359]

Your not wrong. Could also say the same for the Marlins

[@TheWizardous]

@@PurelyBaseballYTCan you do a video on regressing teams this year? That would be interesting.

[@colesmith7754]

I was thinking the same thing while watching this.

[@CJinsoo]

i haven’t followed baseball closely in a while. only last year di I learn about the dh in both leagues. Tony Larusa was hired as manager? that’s insane.

[@ZZSmithReal]

The Braves winning strategy is to be in a division with the Mets, Marlins and Phillies. The New England Patriots used a similar strategy for years.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

No Patriot hate here 🙏

[@jaylong4705]

As a Mets and Jets fan, this dude is correct.

[@A-ro-2803]

@HappyTrillmore Phillies are excellent. No clue why he picked the Phillies over the Nats for his example.

[@soulknife20]

Every division has their bad teams. Also, the Nats won a world series a few seasons ago, the Mets made the playoffs in 2022, Marlins last season and have two world series wins.

[@survivingwatson7430]

is that why the phillies already damn near 10 games better than the braves 😂😂

[@marshallshelton6262]

I like the video but the pollen filter is mentally messing with my algeries.

[@Windyyyyyyyyy]

Here’s what also hurts Having the worst owner in baseball

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Yep, quite the clown show he is

[@CfdMedic68]

White Sox don’t bring in the fans like the CareBears on the Northside of Chicago, Love my White Sox hopefully they will get better with new White Sox Stadium, Chicago Taxes will pay For Half of the New White Sox Stadium and New Chicago Bears Football Stadium

[@BadNewsDave]

I love how Yankees fans are pointing out how backwards Tony LaRusso is.

[@LiveSportsOdds-uo5xu]

Can you do a series on advanced metrics like war, FIP, ERA+ etc. it’s pros and cons and why they matter

[@Lazystu376]

This is a good video but the Braves strategy didn’t ruin the White Sox at all. It was ownership and management (or mismanagement). Some guys who should’ve been good also just pooped the bed (some SP and offense) , and I mean that’s probably due to the coaching staff in place. So I mean I think that them signing all of those promising young players to 5,6 year extensions for nothing was a good idea… they just didn’t execute with coaching, which comes back to ownership because letting Hahn choose a coach probably would’ve been a lot better than what they did.

[@Extinguisher10]

Let's not forget that the White Sox put out a team that was a hack with the glove. Tim Anderson should never be playing Short, Andrew Vaughn and Gavin Sheets were athletic First baseman thrown in the outfield, Eloy Jiménez, and Yoan Moncada were DH's playing Left and Third. I know that with the prevolance of the 3 true outcome hitters in today's game that defense isn't as important, but it shouldn't be ignored either.

[@n_YYZ18]

Yermin Mercedes was not a star player.

[@Geoff_24]

I still have my doubts on Hinch being able to properly be in charge of the clubhouse and be a leader etc as a Tiger fan, but I still can't believe they hired LaRussa when someone like Hinch was out there. The Sox looked like the next Astros with so much young talent. It made zero sense.

[@Dingusberry400]

tell em the part about how we drafted Andrew Vaughn 3rd overall while cj Abrams and Corbin Carroll was still on the board

[@tonypanzarella9387]

Any franchise that endured Charles Comiskey, Bill Veeck [twice], and Jerry Reinsdorf [who once said that he wanted to make MLB more like professional wrestling], has suffered a lot.

[@chrisgotski9837]

Vaughn was never an outfield prospect. He was a 1st Baseman that they played out of position. Drafting Burger Vaughn and Sheets with 2 1st and 2nd rd pick in back to back years was absolutely horrible roster building. F JERRY AND larussa

[@joeshmoe5160]

Jerry needs to sell sox and bulls. Literally identical teams in different leagues

[@IzzyRod83]

It’s hard being a Whitesox fan…..😞

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

I pray for people like you.

[@Tasby12]

You're a sports bro, I see.

[@matvail2002]

The crazy thing is how the decline was rapid and sudden because the CWS was a promising team up until a couple of seasons ago and 2021 was a fine season and the team had a ton of talented young players. A ton of freak injuries did not help. Hiring Tony LaRussa was not a wise idea. Unless you are very lucky or you have an incredible farm team helping compensate for injuries, it's very difficult to replicate the Braves strategy. Even then, the Braves last season was meh however they won the World Series back in 2021.

[@gabrielstafford5174]

The White Sox have the most dysfunctional clubhouse culture this year too. They say the stretching and the BP as optional.

[@Detrison318]

In the bigs everything is specialized, what works for one player doesn't work for another. At that point they are adults who needs to find out what works for them and what doesn't, those who find out what it is and are successful, stay in the league. Also if you look at other teams iternary, you'll find the same stuff

[@aidenawe9359]

Despite their terrible record, clubhouse as been mostly positive this season.

[@gabrielstafford5174]

@@aidenawe9359 last year, they let their relievers sleep in the pen.

[@aidenawe9359]

@@gabrielstafford5174those were rumors flying around.

[@griffinhays2053]

The biggest difference between the Braves and White Sox in this period was that the Braves have known when something isn't working and where to pivot instead, and not entirely leaning on the homegrown guys to get them over the hump

[@robertlindey2538]

Footnote: The 2020 MLB regular season was shortened because of the Covid restrictions. Meanwhile, the playoffs were expanded to 16 MLB teams (8 in each league). So that season, more MLB teams MADE the playoffs than those that MISSED. The LA Dodgers won the World Series that postseason, but many of their players consider that a "door prize" and want to win the league championship with a FULL season. Also, swinging on a 3-ball 0-strike count should always acceptable. Does the NFL have an "unwritten rule" stating that it's "poor sportsmanship" to run on fourth-and-one in front of their opponents' goal line. Would it be better sportsmanship if the QB passes the ball, so the opposing team could have a "fair chance?"

[@monkeyboyjonathan42]

It says so right in the quote. It’s poor sportsmanship to swing in a 3-0 count “when you have a comfortable lead” That’s important context, whether you agree with it or not.

[@joshuaperkins2545]

And a position player on the bump

[@BatBoyEditz]

As a twins ran, it is sad watching this team every time we play them

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

On the bright side, mannnn do those Twins look good this season

[@BatBoyEditz]

@@PurelyBaseballYT Yes, And we got the entire 12 game win streak with not having Royce Lewis on the field since the first game.

[@michaelleroy9281]

As a Twins fan I can't see their games because of the Bally Sports Comcast thing

[@nochey78]

You think it’s sad watching this team as an opponent??? Try being a white Sox fan right about now…

[@fallen4life080]

I like to tell Twins fans, imagine Byron Buxton's injury history but for 5 other stud players in your lineup. THAT's why our rebuild failed. and after 4 years of an open window nobody cares anymore. It's not anyones fault but lady luck.

[@GizmoBeach]

They were ruined by bad ownership and people running the team like they had blinders on. Let's hire Tony La Russa! Let's fire him immediately when that backfires! Let's NOT have a plan in place to replace him! Etc.

[@lanceweaver4830]

As long as Jerry owns the team none of this will change.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Complete agree. One of the worst owners in sports

[@GrowKing510]

Be blessed to have a team. Signed A fan from Oakland

[@SportDawgs]

White sox never really spent in those offseasons either. They literally signed adam eaton over pederson and brantley in 2021 and signed harrison and andrus

[@F1zzii]

Seeing how bad the Sox are I've never been happier being a Cubs fan

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

A lot of White Sox fans are certainly wishing they were raised Cubs fans lol

[@F1zzii]

@@PurelyBaseballYT Southside Losers

[@Tasby12]

Even in 2016?

[@F1zzii]

@@Tasby12 no nothing could top that season tbh

[@doseofreality100]

The white Sox have been signing their young talent before they hit their arb years for years. It's been a part or reinsdorf's repertoire for as long as I can remember...... because he's cheap. I'd say it's more like the Braves copied the White Sox plan..... but were actually successful in doing so.

[@danielgarcia8456]

This is exactly correct. Signing early extensions was the one great thing Hahn was good at. Started in 2013 with Sale, then Quintana, Eaton and TA. Sale, Quintana and Eaton’s contracts were the exact reasons their asking prices were inflated. Really weird to start the video with the trade and not mention the history. Ultimately the Sox failed because Jerry forced Hahn to hire Tony, left right field and second base holes for the entirety of the rebuild, and absolutely refused to act like a big market team during some really good free agent classes.

[@ibraheemrao8434]

As a brewers I'm thankful they're rebuild took only two years 15 and 16 and now they need to get that ring.

[@pooloftim8263]

Just checked out Giolito’s stats, he’s not nearly as good as this video implies…

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

he was an ace for the White Sox at a lot of moments. 2019: 3.41 ERA. 2020: 3.48 ERA. 2021: 3.53 ERA. 2022: declines bad with a 4.90 ERA. 2023: 3.79 ERA with the White Sox (proceeded to get traded and get shelled). Clearly, they’re system worked well with him

[@PastingKing]

Let's not forget the club gave the biggest contact in team history to Andrew Benitendi who has a negative WAR

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

As a Red Sox fan, amazes me how bad he’s been honestly

[@Redpoppy80]

This type of trying to imitate already successful teams has backfired for the Giants as well. Despite the fact that we have way more money, we are trying to build rosters on the cheap like the Tampa Bay Rays and despite the fact that our ballpark is so eschewed in favor of pitchers we try to build a balanced jack of all trades master of all like the Dodgers when they have the picture of an average Major League Stadium.

[@williamford9564]

3:03: Olson and Murphy were not "young" and not from the Braves organizations. They were established players, acquired in trades and then chose to sign "extensions" with the Braves.. That is no different than with any other team.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

I never said they were from the Braves organization. However, they were acquired and extended. Extending young players is NOT something many teams do. Teams play with arbitration

[@ChuPapi74]

As a Sox fan, you cannot compare the Braves org and the Sox. I understand your saying their philosophy was similar, but the Sox have never even come close to doing what the Braves have done. From the top to the bottom their in a different class.

[@TTony-tu6dm]

I’ve watched baseball for 55 years, and I only heard of the 3-0 swing being “poor sportsmanship” in a lopsided game. Swinging at a 3-0 pitch was considered bad hitting technique, as the thought process was make the pitcher throw a strike before you swing, so you don’t help him out

[@comiskey2005]

The Sox would love to “be stuck around .500” right now. They are MLB’s Titanic.

[@Son1cJ3t]

Fair enough, but a key aspect in all of this is that Kenny & Rick & the entire organization were simply not good at evaluating nor developing talent. And this of course was allowed to persist for 20+ years under Jerry Reinsdorf.

[@mr.benchwarmer]

Amazing video. So much work went into this & its incredible 🙌🏻

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Hey thanks brother! 💪🏻🔥

[@24bobdylan]

Your framing of the 2021 season is really weird, we won 91 games. To do that with all the stars injured for huge chunks of time was really impressive. Also you neglected to mention that we failed to sign any of the big time, future HoF free agents that were available in the late 2010s

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Of course they won 91 games. And they also won a singular playoff game.. that team had so many expectations. 91 win regular season, that was followed by the core falling apart in the following season. Completely agree on the free agents. If theres anything I could change for this video, definitely that. Not only the ones they missed out on, but the Benitendi signing has been so terrible 😂🤦‍♂️

[@dusatriplife333]

@@PurelyBaseballYTthis is random but I played against Benintendi in HS and bruh was real live Steph curry before Steph curry😭🔥 I didn’t play baseball n high school so I couldn’t tell how he was on the field but on the court 😂🔥

[@aidenawe9359]

93 games

[@Cindoreye]

Tony La Russa failed as a manager on many levels, but if the manager tells you to take the pitch, you take the pitch. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship. Maybe that's why La Russa made the call, but why is irrelevant to the hitter.

[@oddballskull1941]

The white sox want a new stadium. When you want a new stadium and dont get it in mlb, You tank.

[@rolandomedina9773]

How can they tank? CBA changed that. They can only get the #10 pick.

[@PYahWeh]

That’s an interesting theory…something to look into the very least

[@richmartin1427]

@@rolandomedina9773it’s not about draft picks. It’s about not spending so that fans stop showing up, then you can claim no support and that you would do better in a different city. Exactly what Fisher did in Oakland to get the Vegas move.

[@rolandomedina9773]

@@richmartin1427 but they did spend. Money went on Barfield, Bannister ,Gene, and Paul Janish . It was to create a culture and identity. They know more than fans do. They move into a new TV setting . Then one year and Minor league CONtracts run out as well . New free agency class coming up . All that and they strategically announced Soxfest. They are not moving. MLB wants eXpansion. New teams. That MLBPA would also like . Yes,it's also about that lease or new stadium they would hope to get.

[@luisrivera2304]

Jerry Reinsdorf needs to sell the Sox and the Bulls.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

The White Sox did this strategy first and it backfired. The Braves largely picked the correct people to extend in this case; Strider may end up being an expensive mistake, though he always can be converted to a closer since Anthopoulos likes to spend money in relievers for God knows whatever reason.

[@RafaelSale]

Jerry has been ruining the White Sox for years, even with their playoff seasons of 2020 and 2021.

[@turdferguson8175]

Words can’t even explain how much I hate Jerry Reinsdorf. It is all on him. Refusing to open the wallet and not hiring the right manager killed the team.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Absolute clown

[@yes-it-is-i]

To me he should be in the HOF at some point, he was a staple for a team for over a decade and is top 15 in a lot of passing stats, much less an MVP that set records in yards per attempt in 2016. Vick might be considered “Mr. Falcon” but Ryan is the best falcons QB by a healthy margin.

[@csquared973]

U can swing 3-0 if ur good enough to get a hit... guys like bonds got the greenlight on 3-0

[@aegisofhonor]

to sign a prospect with zero MLB at bats to a 43 million 6 year deal is basically the same as taking that $43 million to Vegas and betting it all on Red and hope for the best.

[@BendyDH]

... At least they still have the best City Connect in MLB….?

[@Commander_Bern]

Tampa Bay

[@BendyDH]

@@Commander_Bern that’s true, Rays just topped them

[@nomercyinc6783]

city connect jerseys are trash

[@TheGOOFYLAUGHS]

Personally I prefer the Reds or Rockies city connects, the Sox aren't bad but the Rockies green mountain jerseys look so great.

[@michaelparkerdesign]

Baltimores is better tbh

[@mikemurphy8996]

I have no idea how that much talent didn’t easily win the central years in a row. It’s the worst division in baseball. Those players must have terrible character and they must have had terrible coaching. I think Hahn had the right idea, he was just forced to hire the wrong manager.

[@ayftb6558]

im not saying this to defend tony, but idk why everyone always leaves out tht it was off a position player. thts why he said it was disrespectful

[@michaelleroy9281]

The White Sox from after 2008 ( when they previously won a division title) to 2019 were nothing to shout about either

[@Qntn04]

Bro forgot "DOWN GOES ANDERSON!!! DOWN GOES ANDERSON"🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

That was on my notes for the video too 😂😂

[@daviddamascus9657]

Don't you think you should say the White Sox failed to utilize the Braves strategy? Other than that little gripe, really good break down. This is the kind of content baseball fans love. I've almost completely gone away from analysis by ESPN and what not for better analysis by KZbinrs such as what we just watched.

[@NeoDaOne]

Reinsdorf ruined the WSox. PERIOD.

[@aidenawe9359]

Yep

[@AnthonySmith-te2be]

If 3 mile island and a dumpster fire had a baby it would be this year’s white Sox 12-30, and I’m a fan

[@majorfomo7895]

Nothing will change until Reinsdorf either sells the team or dies.

[@ancestralFromWesnoth]

3-0 count… WITH AN 11 RUN LEAD… off of a position player pitching

[@survivingwatson7430]

dont go down 11-0 then ?the fuck lmao have enough fuckin pride as men not to disrespect your fans and the sport by getting stomped out so badly that position players need to pitch. then you wont have homeruns hit off them

[@notreallyadog9646]

The filter is highly distracting. It looks like all the games are being swarmed by bugs, and makes it harder to concentrate on the video.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Definitely agree! Next upload wont be like that.

[@TraeBeaver]

@@PurelyBaseballYTI don’t know what he’s talking about, the video looks good. Do what looks best to you man

[@mattspychala7251]

As a Cubs fan, listening to White Sox fans getting all giddy about this team and how we "gave them Eloy" for nothing (Quintana worked out pretty well for us). To watch once again Reisdorf drop a bomb on them by hiring LaRussa was just magical.

[@sirtorndr]

Great video! Very informative. I'm not sure why it seems like there are bugs in lots of the videos segments. Is that a content creator choice or something necessary for this video to be on KZbin? Or are they just in my head?

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Haha long story but they wont be in next video! Glad you enjoyed brother

[@GohanVsLuffy]

season not over ,record looks daunting , they will play like hell and win like hell.

[@alexjessop5330]

Just because it works for them doesn’t mean it works for everyone. Money ball worked in Oakland not everyone. The rays and Astros strategy worked for them not the copy cats. Yankees buying their team. It doesn’t work for them as much as people think. It works better for them than everyone else. The dodgers just mix styles

[@JD-hc1sr]

the white sox were ruined when they wasted their window of opportunity by hiring Larussa instead of a younger more competent coach. No disrespect to TL but his time had past

[@etrin5714]

Breslow and Cora have a great working relationship and our completely in sync. My sources confirmed that they are actively seeking SP and infield help. Expect some transactions in the next 2-3 wks. With Bauer off the market, any chance they consider Urias?

[@adblue8955]

My favorite thing about this whole thing is that a lot of tigers fans are blaming it on karma for the black sox scandal which is over a century old at this point! Baseball is awesome

[@peaceasyx]

Not when you’re a Sox fan :(

[@adblue8955]

@@peaceasyx If it's any consolation you're still the coolest Chicago team

[@raymundo2417]

Yermin Mercedes was the coolest shit I’ve ever seen, that dude was a first ballot hall of famer for a month straight.

[@webuiltthissmitty]

I don't believe for a second that Jerry and Rick or any of the ding-dongs in Chicago's front office had any actual clue what they were doing.

[@nochey78]

Honestly… I believe Rick Hahn was handcuffed by Jerry Reinsdorf.

[@KaisasDad]

I believe Reinsdorf thought getting to the Series with all Latin starters would be his ticket to the HOF.

[@Tasby12]

What difference does the nationality make?

[@jayburdification]

What’s with all the floaties in every shot. Who even came up with this idea as a video effect and thought it was a good idea? It’s distracting and annoying.

[@TheModerateExtremist448]

Man, if I had a nickel for every time another team’s strategy ruined my team, I would be so rich…said no one lol what does that even mean? Isn’t that kinda the point? I would hope that whatever strategy I use, is better than the strategy of any other teams, thereby making their strategies obsolete. And let’s be honest. The White Sox have been “ruined” a lot longer than the Braves have been what they have been in recent years lol

[@funkypeach8082]

Hiring Tony has set us back yet another decade of baseball.

[@PurelyBaseballYT]

Quite literally..

[@jamesweldon8118]

1:06 yet to have that yet

[@BearIslandComics]

The potential of this channel is limited only by the bizarre use of “to” instead of “and” in describing records

[@BarberBrandRadio]

he wasn’t punished for swinging in a 3-0 count, it was the fact it was a 3-0 count and the score was 15-4 and he hit a bomb off of a position player

[@rolandomedina9773]

And slide to 1 st base as well. He was one of the "Change the game"crew.. Tony just wanted to toughen them up.