The 246 GTS Dino is a better Ferrari than most Ferraris | Buyer's Guide | Ep. 304

[@chuckgrenci6404]

When I was in the Navy, and stationed at Great Lakes, I took a walk to Lake Forest where I found a Ferrari dealership much to my surprise. Well, they had two Ferrari's in the showroom; a Dino and a Daytona. The salesman tolerated a poor Naval enlisted man and we had some dialogue (he was humoring me, which I appreciated). Price came up and the Dino was 15,000 (I know different money back then), with the Daytona at 25,000. I said I guess you don't sell many at 25k, and he said; "if you've got 15, you've got 25. I suppose I'll never forget that (or the experience of seeing those beautiful cars in person. I was 21 y/o at the time (oh, what a feeling)!

[@redneck4528]

Back then 25 bought you a 3 bedroom home in LA

[@alexcallas8222]

That'd be Rick Mancuso's Ferrari store. He's still an exclusive Ferrari dealer in another location in LF. I also used to visit the old downtown location. You could look through the shop windows and sometimes see a V12 motor on the bench disassembled.

[@TheJhtlag]

The irony that a 21 year old guy would enjoy it a lot more than the same guy who finally builds up a bank account many years later.

[@othgmark1]

I have always loved the looks of these but they are insanely expensive to buy and own nowadays. Just cannot justify the expense in my head given its mediocre performance. There was a time l could have purchased one but l certainly couldn't have afforded the upkeep which is truly ridiculous now.

[@msbrownbeast]

The 365 GTB Daytona is worth a big fortune now. A true iconic V12 with a timeless and sexy body.

[@99unclebob]

these cars were beautiful , back in the late70's an Italian restaurant owner in Winnipeg where we live imported a white Dino from Italy I believe i was told it was a 1967 , we were all young teenage guys who were use to cars from the big 3 and none of them ever looked like this piece of art, his car wasn't fancy looking and was always parked out front of his restaurant and it sure brought in the business and it became some what of a meeting place for all of us, and it always sounded so exotic to us kids he would say, ok ok i will start it for you to hear, we were thrilled ash the sound of the V6 and how it sounds running it up through the gears ❤️ it was always garage kept and only driven from middle of May to September, he eventually sold it to an Italian buddy of his who owned a body shop and drove it hard and put away wet always impressing the girls and not doing much maintenance to like the other owner and we saw it go into disrepair and get rusty and it eventually ended up in Vancouver ,BC i heard where it was never garaged rusted out from the salt air and ended up being parted out ,, too bad, sure was a nice when we all knew it in front of that restaurant , good times

[@WanganTunedKeiCar]

That's cool, but for Pete's sake please learn to use periods. I nearly fainted reading this.

[@99unclebob]

@@WanganTunedKeiCar 🤣

[@JohnnyTHolland]

@@99unclebob Nice story Bob and goodness that must have happened to a few of these - I hope your white job was a GT as whilst the GTS is still a beautifully designed car, the closed coupe GT is that much nicer proportioned I think.

[@MrGaryGG48]

When I was home ported in San Diego (USN) way back in another century... I frequently passed a parked 250GT of some variety. I wasn't very familiar with the Ferrari Family Details at that time. It was white (under a lot of dust & rust) with a very ratty looking black canvas top. After a year or so, there was a "For Sale" sign in the window, for $3500. This was in the early 1970s. I slowed down every time I passed that "faded beauty" and kept thinking "I can probably afford that much..." Then after it was out of sight and the rest of my brain woke up again, I knew that beneath the rust there were very likely a whole lot more problems that I couldn't see. Eventually, I drove by, on the way to the Navy Base and it was gone. I knew it was all for the better but that didn't mean I forgot about it. Ferraris and an occasional E-Type roadster would cause that foolish contemplation that never went away... 😏😕

[@lukesimkins4628]

One of the most beautiful cars ever made. If only I was in a position to make use of this guide.

[@richardmahoney9415]

Who u telling lol

[@johnnyboy1586]

So many beautiful cars of that era

[@daverunner3397]

Amen!

[@johnnyboy1586]

I was at a Ferrari club meet,and was looking around the different cars ,most were mainly newer models but there was one Dino,and it just stood out with it's beautiful shape and exquisite interior🙂

[@matthoward1174]

I love that blue ! Nice to see a Ferrari in something other than red.

[@cvandenhaute]

I once had the pleasure to drive a 1972 Dino, what a wonderful car. Everything felt right, I was stunned about how precise everything felt for a car older than me.

[@nigeljones482]

The Dino, a friend had his Dino restored, it was Red with a tan leather interior the car looked amazing, i have to say the Dino is truly a beautiful car.

[@natedetailscars]

It never ceases to amaze me how much tastes change over time. Growing up, the Dino was the black sheep of the family. Extremely "cheap" (in Ferrari terms) compared to many of it's contemporaries, and now it's treated as a classic and a driver's car.

[@turnip5359]

@@natedetailscars imagine buying one back then and holding onto it to this current day. People really didn't appreciate the beauty of this car

[@nelsonclub7722]

I must have been the unluckiest Dino owner in history. Every time I drove it there was the awful anxiety that it would break down usually followed by the preceding premonition coming true. However. When it worked it worked brilliantly. Its a car I miss but then rose tinted specs ensures you only recall the good drives not the misery. Thanks for the memory.

[@oregonhighway]

I remember someone working down at the local hospital had one of these back in the early '80s. I was just starting to get into photography, and this car was such a pretty car to photograph. From far away or close up, it had such beautiful, elegant lines

[@chriskappert1365]

In the 80s I had a Road and Track book about the 246 GTB and GTS . They describet it as a hoot to drive ! It easyly outcornered its big 12 cylinder brothers , thanks to its wonderfully ballanced weightdistribution . It steered and braked like a gokart . The R&T journalists loved and praised it to bits , THAT good it is ! Its a FERRARI !

[@Rex_Racer]

One of my favorites . Wish I had bought one years ago when they were cheap.

[@hagestad]

the prices are redicilous. lets face it its 400k $ fiat. you can buy this in fiat version for fraction of the price.

[@Rex_Racer]

@@hagestad Even the Fiat Dino is crazy expensive (just not as expensive).

[@romanpaladino]

The first time I saw one of this was in a Bugle Boy jeans commercial. It was love at first sight.

[@gsmith207]

Omg! Bugle Boy! Haven’t heard that in a long time! I remember that! Prob close in age

[@zak-a-roo264]

Guy near us bought a classic defunct gas station with glass front doors and renovated it , he keeps a red Dino in it along with a couple 60s era Porsche race cars. Lit up at night, it looks like a beautiful museum diorama but in the woods on a back road in New Hampshire.

[@audieconrad8995]

Must be a sight!

[@gsmith207]

Friggin love to see that!

[@grahamjenkin2882]

Drop-dead gorgeous design - one of the most beautiful ever. Nice Tiger lurking in the background, patiently waiting to pounce....

[@ncsteeltoe]

I've seen at least a half dozen videos of the Dino and this is the first to show those sun shades. Neato

[@JBsC6]

Back in the late 1960s that was a dream car of mine ..just beautiful. Thank you for the review

[@sharedknowledge6640]

Nicely done. I remember Road and Tracking testing one in the early 70’s and trying to convince my father to buy one. He bought a 240Z instead which wasn’t all bad.

[@karlfontanari2169]

Lovely car got offered one in the early 80's in the UK when I had just graduated for just £15K could not quite afford it wish I had now..

[@SuperWhofan1]

The most beautiful car ever made

[@johnforeman634]

Damn that’s a beautiful car. What a design. There is zero doubt in my mind that one day these cars will be worth millions of dollars.

[@donquixote3927]

The first time I was aware of the Dino marque when a boy spoilt it for me. The model concerned was that yellow Dino Berlinetta Competizione with the double headlights and bubble canopy. Staggeringly beautiful.

[@silva-anderida7695]

I agree,the Dino 246 is one of the most beautiful cars ever.That was really interesting.Cheers!

[@desertduck4177]

In 1988 or ‘89, I was visiting my father and we dropped into the local Ferrari dealer and they had a used Dino on the showroom floor. I recalled it was clean but needed paint and minor refurbishment. Ask price was like 48,000. As with many cars, just wish I had a crystal ball.

[@gsmith207]

Omg, add a zero now! Wow! Love these little buggahs

[@lr_s3102]

The Dino is one of my favourite Ferraris. Looks very tasty in that colour combo.

[@jeffgagnon4557]

Great review Colin

[@georgef1176]

The Dino is my second favorite Ferrari after 275gtb4. Although David Lee’s Dino with the v8 swap is almost cooler then any 275

[@RUfromthe40s]

it´s not a ferrari as they said when released it´s a Dino and later came out other that they say isn´t a ferrari , that one there´s no videos about it as the first Dino a couple of years ago i have one because it was so cheap that i couldn´t leave it ,about 500€ in 93 and running, a white one ,no rust just lot´s of smoke when it started or when pushed ,whe i bought it a friend of mine took is mother mint condition renault 5 from 1980 and with only smoke i notice he was racing me with the 1.0L engine renault 5 in mint condition while i was in second gear but some easy fix and maintenance it solve the case ,no one wanted them, as an example the bmw 2002 and the alfas GT junior were almost given, i had 7 bmw´s 2002 and 3 juniors the bmw´s were all diferent and from diferent years i remenber a guy trying to sell me his a white one but he painted the bumpers black because at the time a plastic black bumper was modern chromed cars were old, so i started buying chromed bumpers cars, i already had 7 and didn´t bought it but after some years i should had bought it , it was all protected with pklastic no rust anywhere ,and at the time i would pay maybe 500€ re-chroming the pieces and what i found funny was having a list of parts for bmw´s and mercedes and went to two parts shops they had all in stock this in 95, i asked if he knew where to buy a complete exaust system ,the guy told me directions outside the city at 1.5km´s his brother had a exaust systems shop ,i went there with a blue metalic 2002 and asked if he could get 6 exaust systems for the 2002 and he asked me, when?i replyed that the one i was driving needed one and had more 5 ,he asked me ,NOW? i said when you have time ,he had 3 friends at the shop kind of mocking me and after 5 minuts of hearing metal against metal noise he apeared with one entire system in his hand and, had several exaust systems in a corner of the house ,i thought he had to order them but no, with no rust he had the 6 exaust systems and assembled one in the 2002 i was driving , i paid with all the work what today is 75€ each , there were so many old cars in the city i live that the parts stores had everything even the breaking pads for a 68 or 9 280S from mercedes, this original parts and for the juniors also lot´s of parts, the dino i spent 500€ and it drove and looked new ,it was my daily car after stoping a alfa-romeu GT 2000 i had since 72 (new)

[@ranjanaluwihare1511]

246GTS is my favourite of all time! Wonderful design!

[@vidsinmotionchannel]

One man's cut price Ferrari is another man's posh Fiat.

[@SNYDAMAAN]

The Roma is like a revival of this car. It’s an entry model with a class of its own.

[@Indskret]

I’d say the 296 is more of a revival. It’s like a fusion of the Dino, and The 250 LM

[@vitovitale9867]

I can remember back in the early 80's in Italy when a Dino was more expensive to buy than a Lamborghini Miura, especially if it was a GTS. Now instead a Miura is more than twice the money while some are selling them for over a $1M. So the Dino hasn't been inexpensive since the late 70's but today some exotics are more desirable than others!

[@wakjob961]

This and the '84 GTO 288... my favs.

[@matthewlange8616]

The sodium filled exhaust valves point is more of an issue than the film makes out, and can effect all Ferraris made up to 1982 not just the Dino. Having said that according to my mechanic the Dino is more prone to this faliure due to needing to be revved harder to achieve ultimate performance than the bigger torquier V12's (although Daytonas and Boxer's are by no means immune to this issue). If you're planning on driving one to max regularly they it should be checked if they have been replaced or plan to replace them.

[@cobracolin]

Bingo. Very true on all counts, and it’s not just a Ferrari issue. For example Alfa used the same sodium filled valves in this timeframe as well with similar results. And you really have to rev those!

[@1Rolinha]

This is my dream car

[@corvairguy1]

Fantastic overview. Thank you.

[@hiramabiff885]

One of my five bucket list cars. Regrettably I have a small bucket.

[@extraplain]

Thank you for this information. I'm going to look at a Ferrari next week. I meant Fiero.

[@scottimusgarrett15]

I love Dinos. So beautifully compact, perfect lines. One of the best "Ferraris" ever. Quotes are not mine!

[@saairgunner5925]

I like the Dino, also very pretty in yellow. I will never be able to afford one, but it is very similar to my Toyota MR2 Spyder. Beautiful, transverse mounted mid-engined, not very dissimilar performance, but the MR2 is much less expensive and much more reliable:)

[@stuffhappens5681]

I’m 64 years-old and remember the days when no one considered a Dino a real Ferrari. All the expensive maintenance and none of the horsepower or cache of the 12 cylinder models. And nobody dared show up at a Ferrari meet in one. The insecurity level was so high most owners stuck “look at me” Ferrari badges all over them. The Porsche 911 was its largest competitor. Most experts at the time felt the Porsches were better. Funny ol’ world izzintit?

[@justaddafan]

Beautiful and great summary. Should the rear suspension bounce as much as this car does? Seems like it should have more damping.

[@cobracolin]

Thanks! As for the bounce that’s just the result of Milwaukee’s third world level roads and frost heaves. And that is a particularly bumpy stretch.

[@Mojo522]

This is the car of all cars for me. Hopefully someday.

[@WolfrCats]

I adore that gear whine.

[@gsmith207]

Colin! Nailed it! My 1st 1/25th scale model in 1980. I was 12. Need the real one! But so crazy money now dang it! Us GenX’er fault I think. Sorry

[@dinoallbaugh2050]

I found a 1/24 scale model of a Dino 246GTS on Ebay (a Fujimi kit) Models are the only way i can afford a Ferrari!

[@sephie4]

I've had the luxury of drivng one of these recently, and it was lovely, mechanical, and connected as the video describes. . . . On playstation's gran turismo sport.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Such a great car and to think 💭 that it wasn’t a true “Ferrari”.

[@jim99west46]

I've driven them. They feel like a 914 with a off road lift kit and the mechanicals feel n sound more agriculture than 911s or 914/6s.

[@ptjww9455]

It surely is prettier than most Ferraris. Than most cars actually. The only one I think comes close is the Alfa Tipo 33 Stradale.

[@jameswillard1]

Was this car filmed in Hartland Wisconsin? I was there a few years ago and a guy that lived there had a blue Dino that from what I remember was identical to this one featured

[@123tanners]

Looks like the Lake Michigan lakefront near Milwaukee? Edit: He passes the Fox Point sign near the end. 🙂

[@cobracolin]

It is indeed Fox Point and the surrounding area. You guys get Eagle Eye awards 😊

[@bradentonlee416]

I love this car,, am getting mine soon

[@bradentonlee416]

*You're right, Thanks for introducing me to Mr Jordan Carter*

[@inboxme2089]

*People remain out of ignorance*

[@trinahatfield540]

People are scared of investing because of the high rate of scam in the business..

[@roxasalexander4175]

*There are scammers but real brokers are out there for investors*

[@inboxme2089]

Yes I'm a living testimony of Mr Jordan Carter.

[@marcobusch]

My dream car since I first saw it.

[@MrReese]

This car looks awfully similar to a Corvette from behind - which is a good thing. A beautiful car that sadly was not produced in big numbers and is super expensive by now, so very few people can enjoy it.

[@adriaandeleeuw8339]

When I was in my early twenties (62 now) I was in the process of buying a 246 when my then wife came home and said she was with child..... so there went the Dino.

[@dragonhold4]

Many car companies create a luxury division; Ferrari should revive the Dino as an economy division.

[@alexking7719]

i really feel like Hagerty is making content relevant for me with these videos...

[@jaxxbrat2634]

Those 2 were transversely mounted.. Not popular but the 70s Ferrari F2 & F3 cars were 16k rpm V6.. Yup 16k rpm

[@charlesdalton985]

Great review of a great, but under appreciated, car. And I laughed out loud at the “cut rate Ferrari/expensive VW” comment. Thanks for this.

[@koldplayz1]

Excellent video. Thank you…

[@MetalMike87]

English - speaking friends, I know you have it in you: it's "PIN - IN - FA - RI - NA"

[@audieconrad8995]

👏😆

[@sevesellors2831]

The first time I sat in this car I knew my dream car was the one even if I couldn’t afford one! Still love it.

[@HiddenWen]

Anyone know what color that is? I love blue ferrari's, but a lot of them look really similar. I'm guessing it's TDF Blue.

[@strech5412]

One day I hope Ferrari will figure out what Rolex did - jewel-like machinery is worth a lot more than amazing performance. If Ferrari made a true new Dino with a 3.0 NA V6 with only just enough performance to break the limit but fantastic feeling and noise and looks - people would buy it to match their Rolex. How many times have McLaren etc owners actually used their cars to the full extent of their abilities, probably as many quartz watch owners who need thousands-of-a-sec measurement.

[@vomErsten]

The thing is that jewel-like machinery is not the Ferrari ethos and never has been. It's about being the best, with a bent on performance rather than looks. That their cars also happen to resemble fine jewelry is happenstance. If you want a car that is meant to be a work of art, you buy a Pagani.

[@audieconrad8995]

Good analogy.

[@Magnezone962]

I just wish this was the alt mode Dino in Transformers took when Cemetery Wind was hunting down the Autobots and used it to hide from being ripped apart.

[@floydblandston108]

Whenever I hear someone doing a big buildup on a Dino, I wish a big graphic saying "it's just a 308, but older" would flash on the screen.

[@nicknelson9450]

It's probably is not an issue on, say, a phone, or a laptop, but for those of us who watch this on a system which can reproduce lower frequencies, I recommend applying a low-pass filter on the incidental music which clashes both with your commentary and with that sweet-sounding engine. To be honest, the volume of the music is so low in the mix it's mainly a distraction and for me you would do better to just not include it.

[@Mike-rk8px]

There is a British company, LB Specialists (formerly Lister Bell) that make a Lancia Stratos that looks exactly like the original, but it’s better built and much more affordable. They need to do the same with the 246 Dino. These cars were just too perfect to let die off (or worse, rust away), they should be put back into production with 21st century quality. I got to drive my uncles 1973 Dino many times in Italy where he lives (as long as you avoid the cities, Italy is a drivers paradise) and it’s the most perfect experience I’ve ever had behind the wheel. I’ve always loved the 365gtb/4. Daytona, but it’s really only enjoyable over 70 mph, and you sure wouldn’t want to drive one in a city (I drove one in Manhattan once, BIG mistake). The Dino is like a ballet dancer: light on its feet and very entertaining. It’s not brutally fast like a Daytona, but it’s still a very fast little car that begs to be driven fast.

[@markwarren7959]

I love the Dino'. Better looking than a Testarossa in my book.

[@ianalderton6683]

nice real world review : )

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

The Dino is my all time favorite Ferrari

[@YearsOfLeadPoisoning]

We need more buyers guides for mid-'00s Civics, not vintage Ferraris.

[@haruguchimane6921]

am i going insane or is that a V6 that actually sounds good

[@AlexTrain5249]

You are not insane. That's the same engine that equipped the LEGENDARY Lancia Stratos and that thing has the perfect sound for a V6.

[@vomErsten]

There are a few V6 mills that sound good, even today. F-Type and, shockingly, the current Camaro emit some very pleasing notes.

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

@@vomErsten ......and the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

[@vomErsten]

@@paulketchupwitheverything767 Ooooh, yes! How did I forget that one!?

[@wsl5585]

I checked out this video because I always wanted one. Affordability and the cost to maintain prevented me from buying one. Now, I can afford it and again there is something preventing me from buying one. Primarily, due to driving it. The value decreases as you put on the miles. I would not take it on the freeway and the majority of streets are in disrepair. Also, I would not want to leave it unattended while parked. I guess I will have to wait until I can overcome my fear of owning one.

[@stephantranquille6681]

One of only two ferraris I like. Absolute perfection!

[@gordythecreator]

"Put your index finger into the index finger Hole!, and that's how you shut the Damn Door!" Lmao

[@smcismci]

it doesn't matter if dino is authentic ferrari or not . it has the only car having the most beautiful mith that enzo dedicated to his youg-passed son.

[@mak9x18]

It is fantastic to look at!!!!

[@augustrush7538]

The Dino is as classic as it comes.

[@SharkAttackSkinder]

I have an orange one, in Forza.

[@whototeru]

Why do you produce so many buyers guides for cars that almost no one can afford?

[@AccentShmaccent]

That’s what people want to watch

[@Ficon]

It’s a shame that speculators have finished ruining other cars and are moving downmarket to the Dino.

[@Ficon]

@@BubbaSmurft You are right. $385k vs $500k has made all the difference for a 190 hp V-6. It’s totally well priced now.

[@RbNetEngr]

I remember that in the 1980s, the Dino was a joke and wasn’t considered a real Ferrari. My how things have changed.

[@My_Op]

They still no be real Ferrari's but a monster child of Porsche and Lotus

[@weallfollowmanutd]

@@My_Op you're talking a load of rubbish

[@danmurphy1994]

I need to work for Hagerty; how do I do that

[@MrTurboRotary]

Interesting and cute car 👍

[@doggo82636]

I first found it in Super Runabout San Francisco

[@vomErsten]

POV: Sesame Street's "Ernie" waxing poetic about vintage Ferraris.

[@lonerider5315]

dream car.

[@Alejandro_BoniIIa]

If love at first sight exists, it’s seeing the Ferrari Dino

[@alain99v6]

That Ferrari v6 engine has a second life under the hood of the infamous Lancia Stratos !

[@joshthemediocre7824]

But if this was sitting next to a Miura and i could only afford one...I'm taking the Miura every time.

[@gamby16a]

Recent Miura sales have been $1million-4million, so you're saying you'd take the multi-million dollar car over the $300-400k car.

[@jasgoon]

reminds me of my 67 912E

[@antoninopirrone2541]

Bellissima vettura ❤️💕💕

[@PaulEubanks]

The Dino seemed more of a competitor to the Porsche 904, not the 911.

[@johnnystoka6625]

The Ferrari Dino is so not Ferrari that Enzo put a Dini badge on it . It's now only considered Ferrari so prices can skyrocket and shifty sellers can set their premiums .

[@TheChill001]

ngl, but as many europeans we consider ferrari's to be extremely overrated junk. They appreciate when they leave the factory, not because of how good they are or how fast, it's just about most owners just instantly trying to sell them for more than they bought them.

[@eliXerxes]

Looks beautiful, sounds beautiful, goes beautifully, I could give zero f#*#$ that it's a Ferrari.

[@jeffreyahern3104]

Lovely car pity the steering wheel is on the wrong side

[@CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb]

Is that and Alpine in the back?

[@cobracolin]

Mk2 Tiger- to be featured soon on this channel!

[@strech5412]

Let’s completely hide the actual door closer, then make the flimsy plastic card look just like a door closer, then blame the customer for stupidity!

[@atatexan]

Anyone else think Toyota totally cribbed the 206/246 Dino design for the Gen 2 MR2?