THE 318 SMALL BLOCK IS BETTER THAN THE 340!! HERE IS WHY!

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@StrikersLG
@StrikersLG 2 жыл бұрын
The 318 is a god of an engine. It always seems like it's "Get rid of the 318 and go 360 blah blah blah" the 318 is already internally balanced and revs to the moon. I've beat the shit out of my stock 318 and it just absolutely LOVES it. You can't kill them. When the apocalypse comes the last things running on the plant will be a slant 6, a jeep 4.0 and the 318.
@jeffscott8323
@jeffscott8323 2 жыл бұрын
Ohyes. Had all 3.
@sethblair5534
@sethblair5534 2 жыл бұрын
I killed 3 318s when i was a teenager. I decided to go with a 5.9 magnum and it has been rock solid. However it just doesnt rev like a 318 or sounds as good. Now i wish i had spent the money on a forged bottom end for another 318.
@jeffscott8323
@jeffscott8323 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethblair5534 you heathen you. Haha. You must've. Dogged the hell out of it. Still good motors. Heehee
@sethblair5534
@sethblair5534 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffscott8323 Yep. first one threw a rod through the side of the block, 2nd spun a main bearing, 3rd had a cracked block. They sounded damn good shifting at 6,500+ rpm lol
@danw6014
@danw6014 2 жыл бұрын
The apocalypse may here sooner than later the way things are going. Hahaha
@needsaride15126
@needsaride15126 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a 1968 Plymouth Belvedere with a 318 cu. in. engine. Smoothest running engine I've ever seen. You could disconnect 5 plug wires and it would still run. It had power to spare even pushing that Belvedere. Those older 318's were some of the most durable engines built.
@will7its
@will7its 9 ай бұрын
@@bradleynelson5915 My buddy loved full sized impala's with 350 engines. He used to pull off 7 plug wires and it would still run, and smoothly. Saw it many times right in my driveway.
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 7 ай бұрын
I had several of them as well, they were absolutely bulletproof with lots of power
@robertkoenig1187
@robertkoenig1187 Жыл бұрын
Love it. I run a 318 bored 090 also. Not as aggressive as yours but still run 11.30's with it. It's priceless when you tell them that you are running a 318. Keep up the great work.
@johnlemaitre3612
@johnlemaitre3612 Ай бұрын
Our 67 Fairlane runs in the 10:50's with a 289, beat that!
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 2 жыл бұрын
4 inch bore is where the trick flow is used for Head flow, personally prefer the 4.07 inch bore myself. i drove a 4.08 bore 340 for years with zero problems
@craigcontofalsky4387
@craigcontofalsky4387 2 жыл бұрын
I used to beat 383 Roadrunners with my 65 Dart 273 Hi-Po! On the street of course! It ran 14.70's stock. You put good heads and induction on any 318 bored out and they'll scream! It's all about lbs per cubic inch all things being equal. I used to race a Super Stock 340 Duster in the 70's.
@FATMIKED5183
@FATMIKED5183 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the 383s were kinda choked by the heads,and probably other factors on a stock engine.Cool thing about them is they're oversquare.With a top end that can actually breathe a 383 would be a monster.
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K Жыл бұрын
Which one would run better in roll racing tho?
@bw3506
@bw3506 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason the 318s were never seen as a performance engine is the fact that it was never allowed big valve free flowing heads or much compression in most cases. The 340 got these so it got the spotlight and respect it earned. The power for any brand is mostly in the heads and cam anyway. If you built a 318 and 340 identical other than the cubes you wouldn't see all that much difference. Nice video. 👍
@johnh1001
@johnh1001 2 жыл бұрын
Yes , so true a 318 and a 340 , very little difference . Similar to a Ford 302 and 351 .
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnh1001 FALSE.
@ricklodestein1101
@ricklodestein1101 Жыл бұрын
@@johnh1001 351 has way more potential. If it's a 351cleveland? No comparison at all.. 302's tend to split if not properly built and lack of extra webbing in the lifter galley.
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
@@johnh1001 351C, 351M, or 351W ? Doesn't matter, because all those are in a different league than a 302.
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
@@ricklodestein1101 a 302 will break running too much compression. many 347's are running and not breaking blocks. I've been running a 1987 roller block as a clevor now 25 years. No problem.
@jsigmon57
@jsigmon57 Жыл бұрын
Great channel, it brings back a lot of memories. My first car was a silver 1967 Barracuda "Notchback". It came with the 273, but since my parents were into drag racing, that was soon changed. After the 340 we put in dropped a rod, we had a 318 that had been in our Pro Street car sitting around. It was bored 0.60 over, had 13.5: 1 pistons, aluminum rods and a high lift cam. Needless to say it was the fastest can in my high school. Those were the days!
@michaelmurphy6869
@michaelmurphy6869 2 жыл бұрын
UTG did a video on the benefits of small block 318. He called the "meat and potatoes" engine. Like you said, it was produced for everyday drivers (found in everything, cars, trucks and vans). primarily so to speak. Good, reliable engines. He said if you wanted to get into budget building those were good to start with because they are abundant and cheap. Interchangeable parts, with a few at-home mods you can gain some good numbers and with few more dollars gain even better numbers. Never really been a Mopar guy, I've been gaining a lot more respect and appreciation for their products and the people who build them. Thanks for the video.
@MP-pz9oe
@MP-pz9oe 2 жыл бұрын
UTG loves working with crusty junk
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80s, when there were still enough 60s and early 70s American cars around that we could afford to be partisan when it came to brand loyalty. For instance, from 1985-90, I knew of a bunch of people who owned at least 7 different '68-'74 Novas, and at least 6 or 7 different 68-72 Chevelles. Because I've always been a fan of the underdog, and because there were so damn many Chevy cars around, I became a Ford/Mercury fan. But nowadays they are ALL few and far between, so it's no longer practical to be so partisan. Now I'd gladly own a '68 Mustang fastback, a '68 Cougar, or a '68 Firebird, a '68 notchback Barracuda, a '68 Charger, or even a '68 AMX(but with just slightly less enthusiasm for that last one).
@trebordodge7209
@trebordodge7209 Жыл бұрын
He called them the "bread and butter engine"
@danvye88
@danvye88 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 318's myself. Why spend the dough for a couple extra cubes? Just spin it a little faster! I have a 318 bored .040 over, KB167 Flat-tops, decked to 0.000" and balanced. XE268 cam, mild ported "302" heads and a Wieand Stealth intake. That little bugger screams to 7,000. Next will be some 2.02" "J' heads. I love beating other people with "Just a 318!"
@Ariovistus1
@Ariovistus1 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1972 Plymouth Barracuda with a 318. I put on 1970 340 heads, 1970 340 Exhaust manifolds, an Edelbrock performer intake, a Cloyes double roller timing chain, a Crower Group 2 Hydraulic Cam ( INT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 204°/214° RR: 1.5/1.5 Gross Lift: .422”/.444” LSA: 112° RPM: 1500 to 4250 Redline: 4750), with dual Exhausts and Glass Packs. I loved it! I also had a 400 Hp 340 with a 4 speed in another 72 Plymouth Cuda. Unfortunately, I was transferred to the UK ( I was in the USAF) and I was told by my sponsor not to bring any of My Cars to the UK. When I got there, everyone had thier Camaros and Mustangs there. The worst part was My Stepdad complained about my cars being stored , and My Mom sold both cars while I was in the UK! It took Me 10 years to locate another 72 Cuda with a 340. But that 318 was no Joke. Great Video, Gary's Garage!
@chuckydubree1925
@chuckydubree1925 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing is it's Mopar
@MP-pz9oe
@MP-pz9oe 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of extra cubes ? .130 extra bore is a lot !!!
@FATMIKED5183
@FATMIKED5183 2 жыл бұрын
There's more to it than that.One big difference would be the torque curve.With a bigger engine it's easier to get a nasty hard pulling torque curve.
@MP-pz9oe
@MP-pz9oe 2 жыл бұрын
@@FATMIKED5183 there is more to it than that ; .130 extra bore means not only extra torque , ir means a LOT MORE airflow , means more power everywhere in the power band ..
@crankychris2
@crankychris2 Жыл бұрын
When I worked on Mopars in the 70's, hopping up 318's with junkyard 340 parts was very popular. Also, the 383/440 parts also interchange.
@jimjungle1397
@jimjungle1397 2 жыл бұрын
The 1967 and, "early" 1968 318 cylinder walls are thicker and thick enough for a 4.00" bore. The same casting was to be used for the proposed 1967 331 cubic inch engine for the Dodge Dart. The performance of the 331 was disappointing, so the engine was scratched and the 340 engine developed for 1968. Because Dodge had planned for the 331 engine in the 1967 Dart the 383 engine that Plymouth offered in the early 1967 Barracuda wasn't available in the 1967 Dart, until very late in the model year, with the 1967 383 Dart GTS. The 340 engine took the 331's 4.00" bore to 4.04", made the intake ports the same size as the 327 Chevy intake ports and made the valve sizes the same as the 327 Chevy valve sizes. The 340 was originally designed for a 6,500 RPM redline, but it was decided that forged pistons would be desired for that RPM limit, but they would be too costly. The 340 had its valve springs crippled to restrict the redline to 6,000 RPM, in order to safely use cast pistons and keep costs down.
@crankychris2
@crankychris2 Жыл бұрын
Mopar engineers didn't use forged pistons in any 60's engine except the 426 HEMI. Cast pistons have some advantages over forged pistons besides costs. With a set of Direct Connection valve springs, both these small blocks can rev to 6500 rpm's during WOT application. If your hunting for a used 318, look for a 'Magnum' 318, used in Rams, Cherokees and Dakota's from 1992 to 2003. This upgraded engine was rated at 230 hp/295 ft lbs tq stock and has better heads and other good stuff. --70 yr old Mopar gearhead.
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn 2 жыл бұрын
I knew by the space between the mount ears on the driver's side of the block. 340s and 360s are narrower. I wasn't going to assume the windage tray main bolts hadn't been switched! Good comparison! I'm digging your content.
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 2 жыл бұрын
🤔 I could tell merely by looking at the colors of the 2 blocks. You see, neither block has ever been painted Ford blue, which is clearly the problem here..... You could add 50 hp to any Mopar or GM small block just by spraying them in Ford blue! But your best bet is to just always start out with an engine that came painted in that color from the factory. That guarantees hundreds of extra hp! 😁 Just kidding of course. I used to be a Ford purist back in the 80s when there were still LOTS of late 60s and early 70s cars around from every American manufacturer. But since those old cars are now few and far between, it's no longer practical to be partisan. So now I like all of them. These days I'd gladly own either a '68 Cougar, a '68 Firebird or a '68 notchback Barracuda(or even a '68 AMX, though with slightly less enthusiasm).
@dcrasta
@dcrasta 10 ай бұрын
Still miss my 77 van with a 318. We put 340 heads on it , direct connection purple cam, 4 barrel with intake.. don’t know the power levels it had ( i was a young young lad ) but I had headers and side pipes and it was the best sounding small block i ever owned … salute !
@wabmotorsports9724
@wabmotorsports9724 2 жыл бұрын
318’s are freaking awesome, I have a stock stroke 318 bored 60 over in my car and it’s putting some serious power down guys. Don’t underestimate the 318!!
@jamieforbes3661
@jamieforbes3661 2 жыл бұрын
I built a 318 back in the 80s, only 10 thou overbore, not stroked or any other cubic inch mods. The power was a result of the porting, valve grind topped with the standard edelbrock and 750 Carter and 3 inch exhaust made an honest 350 rear wheel horsepower. Had to use a turnbuckle to stop motor mount breakage. Bullet proof engine just make sure to use at least a 3 core rad as these do run hot.
@Mr39036ce
@Mr39036ce Жыл бұрын
I personally can give a few numbers as I purchased a pretty decent 70' 340 4spd Duster for 500 bucks back in the 80's with a bad motor. I salvaged what was useable( everything but the block,pistons& crank. I had a 318-3 short block from a 2ton flat truck that I sent out for cleanup,cam bearings and freeze plugs but that's about it. I put in a few Direct connection( remember that?) valvetrain parts like a 284° 284° cam and proceeded to run 13.07 with it on street tires!
@96Dak318
@96Dak318 2 жыл бұрын
Currently have 340 in my 73 challenger and looking to pick up a 96 dakota with a 318 magnum. Great comparison and i think they’re both great engines.
@docfischer7291
@docfischer7291 2 жыл бұрын
My last hot rod 318 was in a 71 Duster . 3speed manual. At the time it was just about the same time the Edelbrock Performer Intake and cam kit had come out . A lot of work performed but Wow, that car was very stout. Pissed off a lot of people . Now I have a 74 Duster. Probably going with a Magnum 318 just due to a availability of junkyard parts if need be . Nothing wrong with that engine, numbers tell the tale.
@malcolmhamilton5200
@malcolmhamilton5200 2 жыл бұрын
You left the threaded windage tray main bolts in the #2 and 4 mains. That clinched it for me. Great points friend, but not so loud. We get running roller 318s for $100 up here. Don't want the wreckers jacking their prices up to match what they charge those poor Chebbie guys. I always rationalized that it cost the same to build a 360 as a 318. 340s were too valuable to thrash on the street or strip. Heck I remember Cordoba owners trying to pay me to drag away their 360 Cordobas. My next build is going to be a 360 long block using later 318 "302" heads for more low end torque in a heavy daily driver. Not sure which cam yet. Have several good Thermoquads to choose from, but I might even try running a Holley 2280 as I get great mileage with those. Your don't have to turn much more than 4000 rpm in the gears with a street 360, thanks to the torque. Great job Malcolm Ottawa Valley
@RT69hemicharger
@RT69hemicharger 2 жыл бұрын
Just makes sense. You opened my eyes! The block is the foundation. The assembly is what make the motor.. Got a cracked 340 short block and a spare set of X heads.. A 318 block would make a cool sleeper motor!
@bccoatheshop1716
@bccoatheshop1716 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Gary. I have a small block Mopar in my S10.
@johnmccullough8856
@johnmccullough8856 2 жыл бұрын
In the late 90s I ran a duster with a w2 headed 318 with pretty much the same cam you're using it impressed a lot of people hearing that thing roar to 8500 rpm.
@stannelson2582
@stannelson2582 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I wish I had a penny for every time I’ve heard the word “only” in front of 318. Thanks for laughing at those folks for all of us with only 318s.
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 2 жыл бұрын
so happy the 318 is finally getting love. ive always told people the 318 will run right with a 340.
@MrSwinger1
@MrSwinger1 2 жыл бұрын
Not with stock LA heads it wont...:)
@StrikersLG
@StrikersLG 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSwinger1 AH we found the 318 hater
@paulb.2125
@paulb.2125 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned both engines and NO STOCK 318 2 barrel will run with a STOCK 340 even the low compression 1972 & 1973 340's will still beat them...The 318 is cheaper but not better.
@mikewardhvacrestoration7136
@mikewardhvacrestoration7136 2 жыл бұрын
BUT, BUT, BuT, it's not a 318 it's a 408, I don't care if you use a Dart block, or 318,or 340 block, or if you're a Ford guy a 351 block it's a 408 cubic inch Mopar/ Ford/Chevy all day long LOL. If it's a 318 say it's a 318 if it's a 408 say it's a 408
@GrantOakes
@GrantOakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikewardhvacrestoration7136 A mildly built 318, WITHOUT a stroker crank, will put out a solid 400hp! Stock 340's were rated at 275hp and really put out 310hp-325hp. Good heads (Edelbrock), cam (.500+ lift) and KB-167 at 10+ to 1 and the only thing lacking is 22 cubes, and that can be overcome by the better flow and higher revs.
@moparnut6286
@moparnut6286 2 жыл бұрын
Now if you think about and do some research you can apply the same thinking to 440/426 wedge vs 383/400 wedge both have their strong points and both have their weak points but the later blocks where stronger but made of a slightly softer iron still to me I love all the Mopar V8s!!
@georgepetrillo7316
@georgepetrillo7316 5 күн бұрын
I have a 68 Coronet with 318. Had it since 1979. Prior to me owning it; my mother owned it from 68 when she bought new to 79. Still has the original cam, cam bearings, rods, crank and crank bearings. Only swapped out the oil pump, valve job on the heads, Holley 500 cfm 2 bbl carb ,dual exhaust and electronic ignition. Has 348, 000 miles on it. Does high 15's in the quarter mile. These 318's are tried and true engines. Very under rated. Most say, pull the 318 and put a 440 in. Yes, very true. However, I never did that and was always happy with the way engine runs. Pulls the Coronet well.
@richardkautz2947
@richardkautz2947 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to say that "it's just a little 318" ! Hell, I've heard stock 318s sound really good with open exhaust. Add a small cam and I would imagine it would sound awesome.
@chilee6994
@chilee6994 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating me about the 318 versus the 340 block
@dynodon100
@dynodon100 2 жыл бұрын
Motor mounts on 273-318 are the same on both sides but on the one side the 340-360 use a different mount as they are closer. On the 318 I use icon ic845 - 040 pistons with a 360 la head and it works very well.
@thirteenfox7885
@thirteenfox7885 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a 72 dart sport with a 318. Pours coolant from freeze plug but I'll take care of that. A customer gave it to me for doing some auto work at the shop and traded labor for car. Can't wait to work on it here soon.
@quickdHemi
@quickdHemi 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with a 318! I took a stock 160hp 2bbl 318( on my dyno) and installed a GT-45 turbo. It made 520hp&633 ftlbs on my dyno. Very tough motors, 45 Dyno pulls with no issues and then it went into my 81' W-150.
@muckle8
@muckle8 Жыл бұрын
What year was your 318 and did you have to change compression etc before you added the turbo? What trans?
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers Ай бұрын
Turbo on a two barrel … interesting.
@57rcpilot
@57rcpilot Жыл бұрын
That was very useful didn't know that it could be bored .090 over. Whay size crankshaft did you use and was it a stroker or stock forged?
@brandonbell3089
@brandonbell3089 2 жыл бұрын
I have a great running 318 and 904 out of a 89 dodge truck. It’s a throttle body engine/ I also have a GM type HEI distributer for it. My plan is apparently these 318s have the good smaller chamber (302) heads on them. But I’m gonna pull the heads off and port and clean them up reslly good/ maybe have them milled and run a shim gasket to get the compression up/ a 4 barrel aluminum intake/ and a reslly nice flattappet or hydraulic roller cam. I’m thinking it will make a cool little screamer kinda like uncle Tony’s 318 budget build. Stock bottem end what’s your opinions?
@johnnie2388
@johnnie2388 Жыл бұрын
I mostly have experience with turbocharged 4 bangers. I put that behind me and bought a 84' Dodge Ram D150 with a 318 & 727 torqflight. I have to say that she is a very smooth running motor. Plenty of torque & power for my daily driver. I love cruising and hearing that carbureted American V8. 👍🇺🇸
@MoparMan-ff8fb
@MoparMan-ff8fb 2 жыл бұрын
I still have out of my boxes = 2 stacks of mopar muscle magazine and mopar action magazines. and in one of my old mopar muscle there is an article where a guy who worked mopar engines for years and was know for using mostly stock parts and makes above stock hp and torque . he took a 318 with stock rotating assembly and used KB pistions, comp cam , 4 barrel intake , ported 318 heads thermoquad, stock factory electronic ignition and a cheap set of long tube headers . the engine put out 375 Hp and 388 torque give or take . I like all vintage mopar engines just cant afford 340s, 440 ect. I have a mildly built 318 in my 82 D150 and planning on building an LA 360 for my 65 dodge dart . the wore out 360 came from my truck
@lilo2469
@lilo2469 Жыл бұрын
Great video , how much ,pushing could you get out of a 318?
@BuickPerformanceSupportCha1605
@BuickPerformanceSupportCha1605 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video i love the Mopar small blocks!!!, I want to build a D100 pickup with a 318 I'm in Raleigh NC
@buskman3286
@buskman3286 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to say that you can BUILD a 318 cheaper and make it perform better than a stock 340, OK. BUT there is no comparison between the stock engines. I built racing/high performance engines for years. ANY engine can be modified to perform far better than its stock configuration. I can make a 318 produce more HP than a stock 426 Hemi. You have to compare the stock engines for it to be relevant and a stock 318 was just what Mopar intended it to be - a standard, general purpose V8, NOT a performance-oriented V8.
@DuddiesAdventure
@DuddiesAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
Great video comparing the 318 vs 340. The 318's are the work horse of Mopars, but damn you proved they sure can make some horse power. Im hoping to build my first car soon which will have a 318 in it. I've owned trucks my whole life and plenty of 318s. Great motors!
@kodyweisbeck5026
@kodyweisbeck5026 2 жыл бұрын
I got a garage rebuilt stock top and bottom end 86' 318 with a 441 lift cam, 340 intake, stock 302 heads with some port work to match the intake and valve lapping, a Edelbrock 1406 carb, a stock converter in my barracuda with points ignition, 3:23 gears, 26 inch tall rear tires, tf3 shift kit, dual exhaust with massaged Dakota manifolds, idk what power it makes but it fucking RIPSSSS...... Has a welded 7.25 differential too lol
@garysgarage9827
@garysgarage9827 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@nebrodriguez8698
@nebrodriguez8698 Жыл бұрын
my dad had a 318 on a d100 and i saw him driving it without 4 spark plugs, and that shit felt as sweet as candy, very reliable engine, btw we were on our way to bay some new plugs haha
@Zachsmoparandmashedpotatos
@Zachsmoparandmashedpotatos 2 жыл бұрын
Built a little rippin 318 in 2012 been a believer ever since !
@340dakota6
@340dakota6 2 жыл бұрын
Some great points, good video! I noted the vintage tray bolts on the 340 as a difference as well. Build that stroker small block! Just got my 340 (now 418) back in my Dakota...ridiculous amounts of torque, you'll love it!
@jimmyford271
@jimmyford271 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 87 Dakota LE short bed. I built a very mild 318 from a 71 Duster and swapped it in for the old tried 3.9 it made 300hp on the engine dyno.
@cjbert6790
@cjbert6790 2 жыл бұрын
You can add the windage tray too either block.
@copenhagenhigh597
@copenhagenhigh597 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 89 dodge with the 318 and I love it the truck and everything runs real smooth any ideas on what I should do with it to make it run a little bit better would be great
@AustinPadalec2002
@AustinPadalec2002 2 жыл бұрын
Intake and 4bbl
@tomstulc9143
@tomstulc9143 2 жыл бұрын
Austin pretty much said it it's about airflow getting it in and getting it out. four barrel carburetor with a better intake, port and polish your heads if you don't want to swap them for better flowing heads. Get your compression up as much as you can. make sure you put a set of headers on them. It's all about air flow.
@kittysofdoom6968
@kittysofdoom6968 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 318 in my 68 Coronet. I love that motor.
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers Ай бұрын
Love that car.
@stevejohnson7132
@stevejohnson7132 2 жыл бұрын
I've ported 318 heads as well as the police 4 barrel manifolds in the late 80s to get as much of the original 318 potential, along with a Direct Connection camshaft. Performance was certainly better than stock but it could not compare to a similarly modified 340 even with the extra cubes taken into consideration. In other words though the bottom ends are designed the same except bore size the main difference has always been the induction and I believe that's largely been understood in historic comparison. People never said the 318 wasn't a stout engine, on the contrary. But for a long time you could take your stock 340 long block (aftermarket had little to offer) and turn it into a street/strip competitor. You could not do that with a 318 without the extra time and expense turning it into a hybrid but even at that, good luck. Today, the aftermarket has plenty to offer to turn a 318 into a solid performer.
@imaouima
@imaouima 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. Having built both 318s and 340s similarly, there was just no comparison. But 318s can definitely be build to run.
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
Have people overrated the 318 ?
@lenmaryan7943
@lenmaryan7943 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a X race block. Cast on the side was 318 and the engine came out of a 6.60 1/8 mile car, with W2 heads. Still has a 3.91 bore. I ran a 340 with so much rust I had to bore it .060 so a 4.10 bore for a decade in a street car, weekend warrior drag car 7.40 on the motor, and 6.90 on a 100 shot drove it to work 30 miles many days Anyways the X block will be a stroker engine soon, and a comfortable bore size of 4.04 initially is my plan, and a 4” stroke, maybe 4.100
@j.campbellscmb1740
@j.campbellscmb1740 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Gary's garage, what is your build list for a 90 over 318 to run as a daily driver?
@chuckydubree1925
@chuckydubree1925 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Mopar man all day love the 318s I'm a 360 la guy just because I have a few extra motors really like them thanks for posting keep twisting bolts brother
@lawrenceswanberg8490
@lawrenceswanberg8490 6 ай бұрын
I bought my wife a 67 Plymouth Belvedere II with the original 318. It was supposed to have a 390 ci stroker kit that the soldier (Army) paid for while he was deployed. He paid a shop to build the car the way he wanted, sending them money every month. When I bought it there was a miss and broken motor mounts. Thought it was a tune-up but one lobe on the cam was flat and one compression ring was broke. He got ripped off bad, no stroke kit, no adjustable pushrods, did have the Keith Black Hypeur kinetic pistons. I'm still glad I bought it at a good price with a reupholstered interior and decent body to work with. Wifey likes it!
@toddsteiner7640
@toddsteiner7640 Жыл бұрын
I had a 74 Dodge pickup with a completely stock 318 in it I used it hard hauling firewood I would fill the box plus put a heavy trailer load behind it it never ran short on power!
@jasonbennett9995
@jasonbennett9995 2 жыл бұрын
My first one I owned was in my 97 Dakota I owned and drove this truck for 16 year's great truck now I have a 83 step side ram d150 5.9 or it used to be I love Mopar mouse engines
@davejones5745
@davejones5745 Жыл бұрын
Had a 318 in my '68 Dart. Put the high rise manifold and the 360 heads I pull out of a taxi I found in the junkyard. 850 cfm carb and pipes. Done.
@dannyweasner7925
@dannyweasner7925 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my old small block 318 in my 1973 Plymouth Satellite....one cool awesome motor to own !!
@travisd6585
@travisd6585 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 318 magnum in my 92 Dakota loved it, you wouldn't believe how good that truck ran.
@ITSFUNZ
@ITSFUNZ Жыл бұрын
I still own a 73 Duster with a 318 ! You can just bump the starter and it’s running ! You can sit a glass of water on the air cleaner no ripples ! Stock internals a holly Z intake 600 cfm holly carb 1.5” headers it’s an easy 14 second car ! Smoked many 340s, 350s, and 351s as well ! We are talking late 70s to early 90s here ! Just saying lol 👍 PS loved your video !!!
@phlodel
@phlodel Жыл бұрын
I had a 318 in a '67 dodge van. It was stock. a real poor boy rebuild. I installed the Heads, 4 barrel intake and Thermo Quad off of a 360 Magnum. It was a good engine for many miles An amazingly quick little van.
@jimmyford271
@jimmyford271 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 318. It’s a very mild build and makes 300hp.
@garysgarage9827
@garysgarage9827 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that!
@jimmyford271
@jimmyford271 2 жыл бұрын
@@garysgarage9827 my 318 came from a 71 Duster. It’s .030” over with KB 167 030 pistons that set down hole .007” the factory heads with intake valves enlarged to 1.94” and the stock 1.5” exhaust valves and some cheap Chinese roller rockers. I’m running Cometic .038” MLS head gaskets and a CompCams 20-222-3 cam. It’s in a 87 Dakota. Tight fit thought. To keep the AC I had to put the condenser under the bed lol. I’m running a 46RH transmission from a 95 Ram 1500 and a Ford 8.8 from a Ranger with a Detroit TrueTrac and 3.55 gears. It runs 2300 rpm at 75 mph. Good little cruiser.
@skeetert101010
@skeetert101010 2 жыл бұрын
340 have little more nickel in the block bushed rods and 67 to 71 had forged pistons but basically the same block. What I think make the 340 is the bushed rods like the hemi and of course the heads
@rickeydriskill1096
@rickeydriskill1096 Жыл бұрын
You answered my question on the engine temp with it being bored so far out. But it looks like it has a lot of meat between the cylinders. Thats a good thing.
@rememberthis8795
@rememberthis8795 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager in the late 70s and early 80s, Hot Rod magazine posted an article showing how to build a 330 HP 318. I know that sounds low for HP these days, but if memory serves correctly the build was not that much and it used parts from a 318, 340, and 360. I wish I could find that article… Very good video by the way.
@MP-pz9oe
@MP-pz9oe 2 жыл бұрын
I still have that magazine. There was another one in Car Craft
@brt987train
@brt987train 11 ай бұрын
I was seventeen years old and bought my first new car. My parents found out I was gonna get a road runner and that was the end of that. So I settled for a 73'plymouth duster. But I went back in special ordered it. I put in Fold down rear seat. Fold down center armrest Bench front seat. Bought it in baby blue with a blue outside. I changed it to cordoba metal flake about fifteen coats of paint. I worked in a body paint job. That took me Over a month between dry time. I bought it with a 318 stock motor 2 barrel carb. But the rear was a sure grip 3.23 rear. No 2.76 stock rear. Added heavy duty suspension. Power disc brakes, power steering, sears push am/fm stereo with front and rear speakers. Chrome baby moons and anodized trim rings. Double white painted pin strips. Flipped the lid on the air cleaner, new lifters. New spark plugs , better distributer cap, new wires to the plugs. Plus got rid of the 2ply D78 bias tires, to FR70 radials. It could lay a twin patch of rubber if I wanted 20 ft. Just a fast car. Really fast and good for it's day handling. Loved that car.
@DR440
@DR440 2 жыл бұрын
One of the other big differences is compression. Put some compression in them and they will run awesome! I don't think that the 340 is worth it's premium price just to say you have one. I sold my 340 as I thought the money was better spent towards a 318 or 360. One guy wanted $2500 for his and it was basically a core. I'll pass. They are great, but with today's parts....we have options.
@BUICKGSX71
@BUICKGSX71 Жыл бұрын
You are right my first car was a 69 satellite with a 383 Roadrunner Hood with a 318 in it every thought I had a 383 in it. Ran so good
@drtb69
@drtb69 2 жыл бұрын
I had a nicely built 318 .040 over in a 72 duster with a 4 speed and 3.91 posi.. ..it had a good cam, aluminum heads intake water pump, electric fans, with a serpentine belt system off a late model, and it ran real strong. Beat a lot people with my ruster duster
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I own a 1993 5.2l 318 Magnum. In a loaded Dodge Ram B250 with only 194,000. A pristine O.C. SoCal engine I'm gradually restoring. Heater Core went. Did a Bypass. Then the Water Pump went (bad Impeller bearing scraping the housing). Now I have to take off the Timing Cover, replace the Chain & Sprockets, Bypass Hose, thermostat, and get new gasket and silicone on the Timing Cover & Oil Pan. Then rocker adjustments, then new Plenum Pan, heads, cam, lifters, maybe pistons & rings, and Custom Plenum (Supercharged HP?) and high output alternator. But before that new Upper/Lower Control Arms, Shocks (longer Coil Springs to lift the front 3") Ball Joints, and Rods. Eventually two new Exhaust Manifolds, exhaust pipes/mufflers with the boost in HP, etc. Drive that for 8 years. Then replace it all with an Electric 4WD Engine with 300+ miles of range by 2032.
@ricknel76nelson54
@ricknel76nelson54 2 жыл бұрын
318 is a great motor. It was Chryslers bread and butter and had to be above all else, reliable. Give it a little love, a very impressive little motor.
@bryanworth8292
@bryanworth8292 11 ай бұрын
I had a 70 340 Dart and when we tore the motor down we found that the wrist pin keeper in the #8 cylinder had failed and the cylinder wall was scored badly. Had to sleeve #8. Seems to be a fairly common problem. Saw a video recently where a guy used a 360 crank I believe to stroke a 318. I'll bet that motor was a little beast!
@mgmcd1
@mgmcd1 2 жыл бұрын
Did they differ at all in the metallurgy? Higher nickel content maybe? Just a thought. I drove a 318 for awhile. It was a very good motor.
@StrokerAspen
@StrokerAspen Жыл бұрын
I ran a 69 318 block in my car. It was .120” over, 4.250” stroke crank, worked out to 434ci. Ended up going to an R3 block afterwards, did a 4.185” bore which took it to 468ci.
@Mr.mopar71
@Mr.mopar71 2 жыл бұрын
The 2 differences are a 340 before 72 has 2.02 1.60 valves so you can't put the 340 heads on a 318. The other thing is the 340 is a limited build block whereas there's 100k + 318s available.
@hondaelsinore1974
@hondaelsinore1974 2 жыл бұрын
You can most certainly install 2.02 heads from a 340 on a stock bore 318! They clear fine! You cannot however install 340 heads on a 273 without notching the bores!
@davidphillips3953
@davidphillips3953 Жыл бұрын
You can actually bolt a 340 head with 2.02 intake valve on a 318 but the bore is .060 closer to the valve so it flows less and since you have less cubes and less flow it makes significantly less power.
@jonellwanger7258
@jonellwanger7258 Жыл бұрын
@@davidphillips3953 it’s those little things that make and break an engine
@jerryfarmer5989
@jerryfarmer5989 2 жыл бұрын
To me the big dif is the cam they used in the 340 it was a factory hot rod engine. Hell when the concept of the Lil Red Express came about they used the factory purple stripe cam shaft from the 340. The 318 is a damn good engine and they are hard to blow up I tried in my '80 ramcharger and that engine refused to let loose.
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
The long rods are easy on the cylinder wall. At any speeds.
@zagor1453
@zagor1453 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,,,I have a RC with 318 ,, it's very dependable engine
@blueduster74
@blueduster74 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger bore matters for getting good airflow into the cylinder. Other than that there’s nothing wrong with the 318. But don’t ever think the exact same combo in a 340 won’t make more.
@douglasdailey5998
@douglasdailey5998 2 жыл бұрын
With my 318, i have chewed up 340 440 350 Chevys and others at Friday night drags. And cars with a lot of money in the motors . 1973 Duster, automatic, with 355 rear end gears bone stock. Wasn't planning on racing, but my friends talked me into it, i had snow tires on didn't even have racing tires.
@Tonefiend
@Tonefiend 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 318 in my daily driver 1970 Challenger. 310k miles and the short block has never been apart except for the timing chain. Smokes a bit but it’s still going strong. I have a 340 block to build one of these days. I’m thinking the value of the car will be worth more with the 340 not that I’ll ever sell it, and the 340 4 Barrel emblem on the hood will be cool. But rebuilding the 318 is tempting.
@williamkn621
@williamkn621 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly miss my 73 340 challenger, unusual car around then. My brother had 340 duster also, plain, nondescript 4 speed sunroof car. We had 318s in other dusters and 273 motors. Love them. Not part of the herd
@tonytronto777
@tonytronto777 2 жыл бұрын
What pistons you running?
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm 2 жыл бұрын
i had a 273 and a 318 - i put the 273 cam lifters and heads onto the 318 2bbl with headers = dam smoking the tires in a 1965 valiant AP6 safari wagon regal white with blue interior - loved that wagon , LSD - Discs - big chromies twin system and stereo.
@sammyprestwood3182
@sammyprestwood3182 2 жыл бұрын
The newer mid-80 318 has far superior castings the machining on them is a lot stronger not saying the older model engine is not a good one because it is but you can machine a mid-80s 318 and build a torque monster out of them plus the metal used in the mid-80 engine block is a lot stronger and less prone to wear I guess you can tell by now I'm a die-hard Mopar man nice video and I totally agree with you on that but that 340 you have sitting there should be built and put back together because it is very rare and people pay big money for them thanks for the video
@shaunclifton5281
@shaunclifton5281 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I did not know. Mid 80's 318s are plentiful.
@danielboyd4618
@danielboyd4618 Жыл бұрын
you're probably right because I have read that the big block 400 is one of the better Mopar blocks to build. I figure it is much like your mind 80s 318 factory it had nothing going for it so they gave it a strong block so someone would love it someday 🫀😎😎😎
@shaunclifton5281
@shaunclifton5281 Жыл бұрын
@@danielboyd4618 Stroker 400s are wicked. Especially the 400s with 230-1 stamped in the side of the block. Thick bottom ends.
@xavierortiz2690
@xavierortiz2690 6 ай бұрын
Big Thumbs Up!,l bought a 72 Cuda clone with a Cam put in 340 heads and 60 over in a 318 great engine
@marksmith6634
@marksmith6634 2 жыл бұрын
318 is the best V/8 ever made, and I am a Ford fan, however I wish Ford had made the 318!
@perpetualgrin5804
@perpetualgrin5804 2 жыл бұрын
In 1988 bought a Dodge Aspen wagon to tour the States. Very understressed motor. Did 10000 miles. A great drive. Greeting from Australia 🇦🇺.
@olikat8
@olikat8 2 ай бұрын
Built the original 88k mile 318 in my Valiant. I didn't want to, but the factory machining was horrendous. So, since we were there, it got forged I-beam rods, KB pistons, and a '70 340 crank that was lightened up for the lighter reciprocating mass. The deck were so slanted to the back, that to level it out, the CR shot over 10:1, and thats with '90 "308" open-chamber heads. Had to put 0.060" thick Cometic head gaskets on it to get it down to 9.45:1; with this & a little head work, this little 5.2 revs right up.
@badmedicine4352
@badmedicine4352 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken don't they make a stroker kit for the 360 to take it to 408 cid?
@aintskairtolskol9520
@aintskairtolskol9520 2 жыл бұрын
same with the chevy 305 and 350,difrence is only bore size also 305 has a steam hole in gasket that difrent,my dodge duster had a 318 that was pretty tough,it be hard for me to make a choice over the 318 or 350 for a favorite
@johnperry259
@johnperry259 Жыл бұрын
I had for two or three years a new 1967 Dodge Polara Station Wagon with a 318 V8 engine. It had the quietest and smoothest engine I have ever owned and that includes a comparison with a later Jaguar 5.3 lire V12. I have read many times that owners consider them to be the best Mopar engine ever produced and I certainly agree with that. John Perry, Vancouver, Canada.
@yamahahahar360
@yamahahahar360 Жыл бұрын
So, I’m just getting into the classic Mopar stuff but after seeing the amazing stuff you’ve done I’d like to build a 318 the same way you did and was wondering if there was like a parts list of all that stuff I’ll need
@garysgarage9827
@garysgarage9827 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much everything is backordered at the moment
@yamahahahar360
@yamahahahar360 Жыл бұрын
@@garysgarage9827 unfortunate, but honestly not surprising
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 2 жыл бұрын
years ago a friend of mine turned down main bearning jurnals of a 360 to fit in a 318 i think if i remember came out to be like 342 cid ran great tons of bottom end
@hondaelsinore1974
@hondaelsinore1974 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. What stroke is the engine you are running right now?
@Aqua350Lt1
@Aqua350Lt1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t know they were so similar that’s awesome!
@leewilliams2094
@leewilliams2094 2 жыл бұрын
I had a stock 318 71 duster the only modification I made was a 500 CFM Holly 2 barrel carburetor. It was faster than my friend's 70 Satellite with a 383 four barrel.
@stephenwest798
@stephenwest798 Жыл бұрын
Must have been something bad wrong with your friends Satellite.
@JazzyJS58
@JazzyJS58 10 ай бұрын
I had a 318 motor in my Dodge Coronet 500 for a big car that 318 was a spunky motor not like a 340 but good enough for me it had a 2 barrel on it wasn't to bad on gas.👍🙂
@matersworkshop6123
@matersworkshop6123 Жыл бұрын
I had planned on building up a 318 over a 360 for running on a dirt track. Mainly due to the fact that the 318 has a shorter stroke which means faster hp and tourqe
@kendreger2744
@kendreger2744 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago used a 318 block and pistons and the rest all 340 engine parts because the 340 block froze. Was very dependable. Did not notice a difference on power. Was in a Dart sport 1973. I agree the 318 is also a good engine
@drcolster
@drcolster 2 жыл бұрын
Have You done any Sonic Testing to know the Bore /WallThickness, after Boring the 318 to 4.040"
@steve6992
@steve6992 2 жыл бұрын
340 head slightly taller main caps for added strength, I have a 67 318 broken main cap, I made this discovery when I compared the 340 Main cap to a 318 main cap, and I notice you pointed out something about the 340 being stronger in the bottom, what you pointed out appears to be sleeve in the cylinder
@daltonparker7699
@daltonparker7699 Жыл бұрын
Bro where at in NC, I'm in Sanford. My truck has a 318 im about to start rebuilding and want to give it a little more pep.
@rick-kx7gy
@rick-kx7gy 2 жыл бұрын
As a geezer now I knew even back in my day that along with the iconic sbc come the end of the world there would still be slant 6's , cockroaches , and 318's .
@stanlee1884S
@stanlee1884S 10 ай бұрын
What about the 153 H. P. LA series,1974 ish give or take era 318 block? Still the same or different?
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