The 40K Models We Wish Existed

On this episode, Brad and Eric fill the holes in their (armies’) holes with absolute units that most likely will never come …into being. You too can join the hunt to find a hover bike or a big mech with a bigger sword to fill that gaping hole in your heart.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:24 Tau
00:06:13 Orks
00:09:23 Necrons
00:14:58 Votann
00:17:10 Tyranids
00:21:36 Genestealers
00:26:14 Drukhari
00:30:11 Craftworld
00:36:07 Harlequins
00:38:52 Chaos Daemons
00:43:05 Chaos Knights
00:45:55 CSM
00:48:35 Death Guard
00:50:10 Thousand Sons
00:53:02 World Eaters
00:54:23 Sisters
00:56:32 Custodes
00:57:48 Ad Mech
01:00:03 Imperial Guard
01:02:24 Grey Knights
01:07:01 Imperial Knights
01:09:47 Poster Children
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[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

If T'au ever get a melee unit, it should be other minor xeno auxiliaries. That part of the army has been so horribly underutilised recently.

[@8-7-styx94]

I am Groot, err... I am Kroot! Hear me roar! =D

[@sprinkleLPs]

100%. I hate how tau has become so battlesuit heavy and aside from kroot and vespids, we havent got any other auxilleries.

[@jamesgallagher4304]

NGL I want a new race of space Gorillas for the Tau

[@SamueL-td7fb]

they now befriended a race of giants, that sounds 100 times better than that stupid Mecha that shits mechas thing

[@bulldozer8950]

@@SamueL-td7fb proposal: giant with a backpack (that makes him a transport). As a specialty ability he can throw mechs in his backpack. When they hit they can do some mortals to both themselves and the enemy. Just imagine a giant lumbering across the battlefields with some mechs strapped to his back, getting yeeted and the enemies like stones

[@joshuadarrow]

I honestly can't believe either of you guys didn't mention the Votann's complete lack of trains, considering that was THE defining unit for the old squat army.

[@scurtus1885]

The hekaton has a train hitch on the back

[@ianyoder2537]

What's the term for DLC but for tabletop games? What I'm saying is It'll hopefully come out later.

[@yedoom]

​@@scurtus1885 this was GW taking the cowards way out on the train question tbh

[@catalin2766]

@@ianyoder2537 I mean from what I know the models we got are half of the army and we should get more models in 10th so...hopefully. Even better if it's a train robot.

[@ThatWildcard]

@@catalin2766 Considering that trains have an extremely large turn radius, they could make a, bear with me here, FLYING TRAIN to use the Flyer rules.

[@JCLegendary]

Harlequins: War Elephants. They're a circus, where are the elephants? Tau: Just straight up Mechagodzilla. Maybe a Krootzilla to pair with it.

[@catosicarius3262]

I truly haven't lived until I read this

[@h4zrd-rs252]

For Chaos Knights, I think a cool unit would be "What if a giant Daemon saw one and thought, 'that would make a great suit of armor'

[@moderndavinci6599]

That is an awesome idea.

[@airbournevirus]

I have a couple kitbash demon Engine that is exactly that

[@11jerans]

That’s kind of the lore for the Khorne Lord of Skulls, the 8th host of Bloodthirsters consider the Lord of Skulls the perfect suit of armor for waging war against real space

[@RoyalChicken1212]

I thought that too :-)

[@gerald2508]

Is this not what a daemon engine is?

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

The moment you said "nurgle based transport" I immediately pictured that one toad/frog that keeps its eggs in their back and the tadpoles live under the skin

[@epicrabid1857]

Same 🤮

[@The80sWolf_]

Should be some kind of a being full of nurglings spawning from it

[@tristanemery8748]

Same here

[@samurguy9906]

I hate that thing

[@geoffreyentwistle8176]

I've never hated a comment I so wholeheartedly agree with... 😂

[@Dementia55372]

Can't believe that neither of you thought about Eldar for long enough to even come up with "Warp Spider Phoenix Lord"

[@thepoorhammerpodcast]

In our defense, even GW forgot the Warp Spiders at this point.

[@Dementia55372]

@@KokNoker "No named character wishing because you're a simp for them in some lore book or something" I believe was the exact quote, and since the Warp Spider Phoenix Lord doesn't exist at all anywhere I posit that it doesn't violate the rule.

[@Schmaglow]

@@Dementia55372 eh I **want** to agree... but all the Phoenix Lords are named characters. Imo, this would just be "I want a new names character for this subfaction with new lore."

[@Dementia55372]

@@Schmaglow Immediately preceding this, Brad says "this is more for me than for you" because Brad has read many more 40k novels than his co-host. I think it's pretty clear that the intent of the rule is "you can't just wish for a model for this character you like which only appears in a book."

[@wiccanthropy1956]

​@Brian what if you had a tank aspect warrior. You already have planes y not tanks?

[@hobbsfamily4232]

For the Nids, how about spawning pools? A fortification where you can feed yours and the enemies' units to build up biomass and "summon" units.

[@fumarc4501]

Not bad

[@henrycordes7148]

This is what i was thinking. Good call!

[@Utgarman]

See that sounds amazing, and I'd love to see some homebrew for it, but I don't think GW would go for it with how much they push competitive stuff. Gimicky fun stuff has been thrown out the window as of late sadly

[@XD-sc4ix]

Would actually work especially since they already exist in the lore all you need to do is brilliant NG them into the tabletop

[@NeoIsrafil]

Spawn more overlords...

[@KainPT]

Adding infantry to Harlequins would be difficult due to the entire "performing troupe" lore so a cool idea for infantry (keeping with the performance lore) would be stagehands.

[@Bluecho4]

Another might be musicians. My idea was to make their instruments really big (accordions and Double Bass and Bagpipes), so they function as sonic Heavy Support troops. Still fast, because Eldar Anti-Grav Bullshit. There's your anti-tank.

[@anophelesnow3957]

@@Bluecho4 Bagpipe and tuba Harlequins? Subscribe

[@KainPT]

@@Bluecho4 ohhhh i really like that idea as well.

[@jarrakul]

Honestly I think there's a lot of room to riff off of their general circus vibes. For a meatier melee unit, maybe give them a "lion"-tamer. Squad sergeant is just a dude with a whip, but everything else is some weird animal / webway creature that they've tamed and send into battle as combat heavies. Your stagehand idea would make good heavy weapons guys, or (if we're already using musicians for that) forward-deploying stealth troops in the style of Kabuki stagehands, complete with "ninja" gear.

[@JamieMorganUK]

As a stagehand, I love the idea of an elf wearing scuffed cargo shorts and doc martens just running around the field fixing everything with gaffe tape.

[@ratman505]

And here I am just sad how there are essentially no mortal human Chaos champions. I mean, it's Chaos, it could do it. Not everything needs to be a space marine

[@kallemort]

Chaos xenos 😩

[@LordShrimpTyberos]

@@kallemort i never thought i'd find someone who'd agree, aren't there like, ork who sign up to be khorne berserks? Like i think its weird that chaos seems to ONLY favor humans for recruits, right?

[@gerald2508]

​@@LordShrimpTyberos Humans exist across the largest areas in the third-largest numbers. There are many minor aliens subservient to Chaos but the major ones have issues as follows: - Eldar have their own gods and fear chaos, they use the webway to avoid the warp. You could have some of them worship Nurgle because they have accepted the doom of their race and because he holds their mother. - Orks have their own gods and do not understand chaos. While Khorne finds Orks entertaining, they still annoy him because of their powers. You could have Orks who actually use strategy. - Necrons do not have souls. You could have Necron daemon-engines. - Tyranids lack individuality and disrupt immaterium. You could have the hivemind's fear of individuality be explained by high-ranking units falling to Chaos and being turned against them. - Tau are too young. Wait a while.

[@Ninjat126]

With the current 10e rules we have the Dark Commune, Accursed Cultists, the "Cultist Mob" filler for all cultist models, and the Kill Team Traitor Guardsmen + Traitor Enforcer. You can theoretically build an entire "renegades and heretics" army using the CSM Index, but it's just a tide of the same 2 infantry profiles led by the same 2 leaders, possibly with some Knights or daemons allies in. That's still a ton better than recent editions, though, where cultists had one (or less) profile and then limitations from "Mere Mortals" on top of that!

[@Nolsie]

I want Soritas to have Bretonnian style knights on robotic horses. The twist is I want the horse to be a penitent engine with some poor guy strapped in where the horse head should be.

[@SamueL-td7fb]

have the face of the guy in the saddle and we have a deal

[@Bluecho4]

My problem is that "Knight on Mechanical Steed" is literally the whole MO of Imperial Knights. That's their shtick. Nonetheless, I could see a kind of Crusader mounted on mechanical horse.

[@Nolsie]

@@Bluecho4 I thought the whole schtick was they are Neon Genesis Evangelion fans?

[@Bluecho4]

@@Nolsie You're thinking of Eldar Wraith Knights.

[@bruhhhhhh1]

Brutal!

[@GrimgorRulez]

One guy in our community actually converted the chaos knights Wardogs to dog-like monstrosities on four legs. Looks absolutely epic.

[@saltmedicaldoctor2771]

cant wait to see "40k models we wish never existed" 😂

[@thepoorhammerpodcast]

#1: Tactical Marines

[@arikm8430]

#2: tzangors

[@Maikshikari]

#4: genestealers

[@Clutterlicious]

That video would be waaaaaaaay too long 🤣

[@camostrike4395]

@@thepoorhammerpodcasttactical marines are cool

[@Nomortem]

On WE terms, They have the Red Butchers!! Why didn't they make that a kit? Imagine a unit of dual-chainfist psycho termis sprinting up the field. It could've been so cool

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

@@JanitorScruffy *Please, I swear I’ll not ask for anything again.* No matter how many skulls I take, it never eases the pain of poor and restrictive rules writing… how thematic 😅

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

I mean eightbound can dual wield chainfists but it aint the same man

[@jezter6505]

For the "grotkoptas" i would love to see a swarm of grots in little planes that looks like toy planes instead of koptas

[@m41282]

I see a snotling pumpwagon equivalent except a davinci-esc flying machine. Like a flapping wing plane driven by grots running in a wheel.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@m41282 That is some scaven shit. I am in.

[@Euryptus]

World War One style fighter planes - with monoplanes, biplanes and stupid-amount-of-wings builds. 'Catch that Pigeon'-type creations :)

[@plumdowner1941]

Snoopy style Grot biplanes.

[@jasonperry5784]

I really want knights to be able to bring in conscripts or something from their world and it just being a rabble of farmers or old knights with big swords and armor but just like, a hoard of 10-30 but can only bring 1 unit per questoris knight.

[@lizard56]

While I do know that you meant actual boots on ground flesh and blood knights with ‘Old Knights’, my brain went to “Farmers controlling a salvaged psuedo Imperial Knight” which sounds like a fun model. Like a kind of Dreadnought sized thing carrying hay surrounded by a mob of armored farmers.

[@blitzkrieg8776]

@@lizard56 Actually, that brings up the point in which melee only armigers, or something smaller, would be cool to have.

[@Alex-pm9vy]

If they just had strategems that worked with Imperial Guard we could kitbash whatever we wanted. Some cool Tempestus Scion-ish tier models with knight helmets would be perfect.

[@8-7-styx94]

@@Alex-pm9vy Sentinels but cooler right?

[@Nolsie]

Make them literal medieval style peasants wielding pitchforks and hoes. Everything you said sounds great, make them grot quality with the sole purpose of accomplishing objectives.

[@SuperZeroNegative]

Genestealer Cults need something in style of P-5000 Powered Work Loader from Alien franchise

[@marvinvieth7853]

I dont know their name but someone has a tyranid army consisting of converted genestealer industrial units. For example a carnifex would be a power loader piloted by a cultist. If you havent already seen it i bet its pretty easy to find on instagram

[@anophelesnow3957]

Excellent pick. It makes lore sense for miners/construction workers and the rules could make them a Dreadnaught equivalent. Mining laser and some rock drill as weapons. You can already picture it.

[@jackiepistrelle8335]

Invictor Warsuit Conversion comes a-calling I think. Sentinel power claw and heavy mining tool, with option for two power claws.

[@iwatchyoutubealot]

I would really like for them to just bring back the powerlifter sentinel

[@darkdragon1002]

I always say we need more construction mecks we can mount heavy guns on

[@Stiftquadrat]

For Imperial Knights I want a Knight with a giant Powersword and a Shield. Make it give like a protective field for bondsman and give it like... a cool thing. Maybe another or different set of litanies or psychic. I want a defensive melee knight that is a menace.

[@salizar2074]

There is! (kinda) It's a Forgeworld Knight called the Cerastus Knight Lancer. It's got a giant lance on a rail instead of a sword and a giant shield but it's close enough. It's usable in 40k although I'm not sure about its tabletop performance.

[@capt.cheesecake6875]

@@salizar2074 True, but that's an Acastus - Class Knight, which... Are kinda lackluster right now and have no Bondsman abilities. They could very well make a Questoris Knight that charges head first into melee, sword and shield in hand, that would be dope. Make it a ultra defensive Knight with maybe incantations or psychic powers like T M said, like an RPG Paladin... Oh right, the Paladin already exists, so we just need a new name.

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

As one of the comments pointed out, there kinda is, but the benefit of that is that there’s also really creative 3D STL renditions of those as well- while the rules are a bit rubbish at the moment, everyone likes seeing a knight with a giant power weapon and glowing shield (And on a somewhat related note, I’ve even seen a giant knight with a colossal thunder hammer! Which would make a brilliant scene fighting a giant alien or demon, I might try that some day)

[@capt.cheesecake6875]

@@tomgeytenbeek2207 Oh hell yeah, I'm up for a titanic Thunder Hammer everyday! I don't know why that isn't a think! The Imperium and GW for that matter love 2 things, chainsaws and hammers... So kinda obvious they should go there

[@Gutterman-tn2ry]

Also, for Sisters of Silence, the Ordo Sinister in the horus heresy books has a really cool way of using blanks, where they make one drive a titan while torturing a bunch of psykers inside, which allows it to just create dark holes and hell beams as weapons. Imagine a land raider chassis, but on top is just this giant archimedes mirror with a bunch of crucified psykers and several sisters just standing around them to focus the energy outwards.

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

​@@JanitorScruffy "I mean why do something cool with 40k when we could just sell another space marine dreadnought with different weapons?" -somebody at james workshop probably

[@sternguard77]

The flying grot thing that dies after a few turns existed! You 100% described the Grot Bomm! They’re explosive rokkets that are guided by having the grot pilot fly them into their target where they inevitably meet their fiery demise!

[@icycoatl3185]

What if the tyranid drop thing is just… a turret that explodes? Like drop it next to the enemy, they get covered in toxic goo on impact like an orbital drop water balloon, and then the core of the thing that fell lets loose with a flamer and OH NO THE GOO IS FLAMMABLE TOO AAAAGH!

[@icycoatl3185]

Also, and hear me out: -Ynnari wraithguard with chem sprayers on their hands piped to a tank of poison and harlequin LSD on their back, baroque death mask carved into their otherwise smooth egg-head.

[@8-7-styx94]

I like this idea but I think a spore with an acid flamer would also be pretty dope. Just land near some troops and spray some kind of horrifying goo on nearby enemies once and then deflate comically like a balloon leaving them screaming in pain while it whistles as it flies off.

[@bthsr7113]

I mean, the marines had drop turrets before the new drop turrets of Primaris. So it's doable.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

I think a tau battlesuit that deploys battlesuits would be a real mistake, not only because it'd be pointless and bad on the tabletop, but because it's lore additional would be bad, what would rock is a battlesuit version of a drone harbinger from dawn of war, it would make plenty of sense for supporting allied drones, while still being a battlesuit carrier

[@reginlief1]

Yeah I don’t know why you would make a Walker to deploy more walkers, that seems terrible compared to just drop-shipping them in from an aircraft. Or even just a big old APC that’s like knight sized (not a good idea for a model but in terms of what would exist in the world).

[@squidopedia_]

Yeah a drone carrier mech would be cool

[@bthsr7113]

You could maybe have the XV8's latch on to minimal connector points externally, like Elemental Armor in Battletech, but having hangar pods for them just compromises the big mech's utility.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

@@bthsr7113 yes you could easily draw up a battle suit that carries battlesuit, but actually adding that to tau lore would be horrible, the tau are a practical race, or at minimum the appearance of practicality, as I suggested the drone factory unit would make sense, you have a claw for salvaging materials on the battlefield and it quickly converts them into drones, it would add to the lore rather them cripple it

[@basedeltazero714]

Honestly, the Drone Harbinger from dawn of war would be pretty cool. I wrote up a datasheet for it in 5th Edition (it was basically a transport, for drones, that also gave drones within 12" FNP). A mech that can carry infantry/stealthsuit scale units... maybe. Could be A Weird Sept Specialty Unit. Or an upgrade? Add on a thing to a battlesuit and it can carry firewarriors along on jumps? For the Tau's Ultimate Imperator Titan equivalent Megaunit, stupid proposal: Warden class Escort.

[@Holacalaca]

For tyranids i was thinking "what monster archetype have they not done yet" and a land wurm came to mind. But not just a dune or tremors ripoff, a veritable monstrosity of centipede legs alongside rows of teeth and spikes that is half buried into the ground made to create giant sinkholes to feed from. Also a sea monster, like a loch ness, squid or mantaray, but FLYING.

[@scolack123]

Your first part Thats the mawloc and trygon niche

[@johnwalker6557]

The way that World Eaters lost so many units when they got their own codex makes me worry for my Emperor's Children army. Gonna be real sad when half of the models suddenly become illegal choices.

[@Obekiwi]

1:08:30 Cawl trying to make his own knights is actually cannon now. Was briefly mentioned in Assassinorum: Kingmaker.

[@necroprince2098]

so, I know you did the "let cawl have at it with knights" as a kinda joke but in the books (god knows which one) they actually meantion that Cawl is working on a new "class" of knight for the imperials anyway so thats probably what we are going to see...tho hopefully not hoverboard one please dear god no

[@thepoorhammerpodcast]

HOVER KNIGHTS ARE A GO

[@chadtheafricanbullfrog]

I think a fun expansion of your wishes would have the Votann mechs not be piloted at all like a Tau Battlesuit or a SM Warsuit/Dread, and instead would be something like a giant up-armored Ironkin. They already have the robots and it would be a cool way to differentiate them by saying “hey, we’re smart enough to not need dedicated pilots or dead guys in our giant mechs.” Another good one would be an alternate model to the War Dog Karnivores, with it on all fours to be more “feral” and more akin to a Forge/Maulerfiend.

[@Bluecho4]

If we're never getting Men of Iron as a separate army, we'll have to make due with them being in Leagues of Votann. More Ironkin is appreciated.

[@thomaswhite3059]

It's drip or drown, hearthkin. And I am F L O A T I N G

[@WhiteWulfe]

Oh man, a Tyranid that's Knight Sized? Ohhhh yeah, that would be EPIC to have!

[@holdencross5904]

Pretty sure they exist in FW

[@dufort]

Because of that runor we're getting a new Xenos army in 10th, I think it'd be wild if y'all went through all the canon Xenos armies in the lore that don't (currently) exist in tabletop and speculated what you thought they'd play like

[@bthsr7113]

Tau. Allies.

[@michaelcollins4534]

Men of Iron please

[@screamingcactus1753]

@@michaelcollins4534 I'd love a faction that's just a single DAoT ship that got displaced in time while traveling the warp. They deploy men of iron to fight skirmishes against other factions to obtain the materials they need to use their STC factory while doing what good they can in a galaxy thoroughly unrecognizable from the one they left.

[@basedeltazero714]

​@@screamingcactus1753 That'd be awesome, actually.

[@kekkoinen]

I think they might be nids

[@masterfire52]

Screw it, I want a Salamander riding a Salamander. (It isn't breaking rule 3, since it's not a dinosaur :) )

[@joshuachristensen9731]

There are some 3d models online of Salamander outrider/attack Bike proxies that look pretty cool, i'm planning on using them for my Salamanders Honour Guard army i'm currently procrastinating, until we get the upscaled Termies and more decorated armour

[@IronPhysik]

there is a imperial guard vehicle called Salamander

[@synergy8879]

fr, we need tu’shan riding a salamander into battle

[@ethangriffin3935]

15:05 tbh, it'd be cool to see a Votann dread that's basically a massive Ironkin

[@AceTaxiaGaming]

You mean an Iron... Giant?

[@Zakading]

They already have power suits that are almost dreadnought sized in Necromunda and had actual dreadnought equivalents back when they were squats, too. Easy thing to bring back

[@metnah1]

Grey Knights need bikes? No, the Imperial Knights need bikes.

[@ghostparty2062]

I just want more Harlequin units 😂 mainly an avatar of the laughing god. Fun vedio guys.

[@anophelesnow3957]

Harlequin Wraithseer mystery ghost robot!

[@ghostparty2062]

@Anopheles Now I think wraithguards/lords with 2 souls in them. They have 4 arms with swords and two faces on there head, one with a happy face and an angry face and it can Swivel round.

[@caledfwltch]

fun fact, if you *technically* want to have that field a solitaire as buffed up as possible, iirc ceogorach has canonically gone around realspace under the disguise of being a solitaire just to get up to whatever he does

[@joshuadarrow]

it would be really cool for them to have a anit-grav parade float/moving stage model that can transport infantry. it would make for a good centerpiece model that's very distinctive to Harlequins. you could even have aura abilities depending on what play the troupe is performing.

[@ghostparty2062]

@Joshua Darrow OK that would be awsome

[@CaptainHogmeat]

On the topic of Grot vehicles, in the AOS novel Arkonaut's Oath one of the final action scenes is a Grot war blimp that is floating on a gigantic inflated squig. Maybe a unit of squig war-balloons piloted by Grots? Enemy ranged attacks could pop the squig and make it explode.

[@bthsr7113]

I was thinking about a slightly larger dethkpota being a full troop transport helicopter.

[@marcvsaurelius7570]

For sisters I would love to see what is essentially Sacresants on bikes, choice between halberds and maces and either a multi melta heavy flamer or heavy bolter on the front riding a big bothic harley. I think one of the few things sisters are missing is fast attack, the zephirym are good but really only in bloody rose, seraphim are fine but not great, and dominions are really just battle sisters that trade obsec for special weapons as soon as their pregame ability is used.

[@fumarc4501]

Converting Sisters onto Jackal bikes is pretty fun.

[@jontheisen5470]

Ya sisters need a biker/cavalry unit. They are also missing lord of war and aircraft options. Which I hope they get in the future.

[@holdencross5904]

I’m currently working to get sisters on horseback because I want Cav

[@Ozzblahing]

"Fun" fact - my friend who plays 40k and was in the army said that he was surprised that the Genestealer Cults made the cut as they did - some of the shit hit way too close to home to him, precisely because of what y'all danced around.

[@jacobbrown7367]

Harlequins should lean into the card motif by having a 2k point army with exactly 52 models. Each suit could represent a different slot (troops, elite, heavy support, fast attack). Thats one 10 man or two 5 man units + one 3 model unit or 3 one model units

[@Millipede666]

You guys got it wrong on Knights... The new IK kit needs to be either a helicopter knight or a knight riding a jet bike.

[@lelandmartin3970]

Honestly might be kind of cool to see a upper knight torso being carried by some kind of helicopter " i can still fight! i don't need my legs!"

[@rakonc9555]

"A horrifying act against all that is holy." Is actually what the current soul grinder model is, so I don't see the problem:D

[@mikoajpietrych6168]

yes but it also is "A horrifying act against all that is unholy" and that's what's wrong

[@yungtoolshed251]

Votann need: -a fast attack infantry (allegedly they are getting jump warriors) -an open top mining hauler that you can place a group of 10 warriors in and have them slowly blast their way up the board and get them to mid. The hauler can have a big drill or scoop that does melee damage. - more ironkin -melee thunderkin with a siege drill like weapon - a repurposed ground to orbit ore hauling flier that has a shit ton of missiles -a cheaper medium tank option (like the gladiator) that can be a Swiss Army knife vehicle that doesn’t have the commitment of a hekaton -a dedicated transport flier or APC -troops that aren’t warriors and more foddery Of course these aren’t all possible but it just depends on how GW is going to rebalance the army in 10th.

[@rahveel]

My Eldar/Aldari wish: Go harder on their Necromancy themes. Something like a Troop unit of spectral eldar souls bound to something like a guardian weapon platform, that can cycle them back into play.

[@odinlindeberg4624]

In lore terms, the Tau's idea of a close combat battle suit is to strap four miniguns on it. Something like the Schuzrum-Galluss would be fun though.

[@bthsr7113]

If it had a human in it, it could use power blades well.

[@datguy3907]

Admech just want a HQ that can actually scrap (plus maybe some more artillery and servitors but those would be larger releases)

[@squidopedia_]

Tau should just get Fusion Blades and Onager Gauntlets as normal equipment options for Crisis Suits & co

[@canceledlogic7656]

For CSM: Id love to see chaos equivalent of infiltrators/reivers... there are SO many conversion jobs of a 'SM' revealing themselves as Alpha Legion... Alpha and Night Lords could have SO much fun with actual stealth/chameleon units

[@holdencross5904]

Since when were Night Lords stealth. They are Canada war crime galore

[@reginlief1]

Dude I totally agree with getting a canoptek troop, I’ve been thinking that’s what they need for years! I always want a melee troop for crons so I’ve always wanted something that looks like the small guardians in breath of the wild, in groups of 10 ish. I think that’d be brilliant.

[@8-7-styx94]

Canoptek mecha-saurs - they could be the canoptek version of mcDonalds workers and supply random garbage to the necrons in order for them to operate.. surely they some sort of McGuffins to work right? some Canoptek approved brand bolts or power-packs? Okay fine no Dinosaurs but what about Ants? They keep up the bug theme.

[@fumarc4501]

Agreed

[@TheCrimsonArchivist]

I would like a mix of the wraith and spider but not floating but running on six very sharp legs with a small beam weapon

[@Nobleheart111]

Fan unit: Grot Rokkit Riydas’ - Grot Rokkit Riydas’ are Gretchin that, through folly or malicious madness, have chosen to nick the Rokkit packs from Stormboyz and mount themselves atop the Rokkits using primitive saddles or “Sit-belts”. Flying pell mell at the nearest enemy (or, often enough, “ally”), these tiny streaks of flame cackle insanely as they fly across the battlefield, firing their Grot blastas and trying to stab anything and everything their tiny stabbas and makeshift stikkas can reach. Ability - Yeeehaaaw!! - When a Grot Rokkit Riyda unit successfully charges an enemy, roll a D6. On a 4+, a Grot Rokkit Riyda model explodes, dealing D3 mortal wounds to any enemy within 3 inches of one of the models of the Grot Rokkit Riydas unit, and that Grot Tomkit Riyda model is destroyed.

[@dfwdweghom8902]

Grot go karts with shoota attachments

[@bthsr7113]

@@dfwdweghom8902 Grot clown kopta transport

[@TheMrsamicus]

Brad and Eric describing the Canoptek Reanimator in tenth edition but 3 months in advance is AMAZING. Great content guys!

[@Nitsua1201]

After watching Astartes, finding out that the faction depicted against the marines was a made up headcannon was the biggest disappointment. If I could have anything it would be that faction existing and being fleshed out entirely.

[@wiccanthropy1956]

Different take on thousand sons: I'd like a squad of five on disc's that can be built like either a purgation squad or a fast melee unit like inceptors for grey knights. The sorceror is so dedicated to his pact with the discs and bond with his rubrics that at max squad 4 rubrics he can manage the task of juggling it all and effective combat casts. I think this unit would fulfill most of the holes in tsons in one go.

[@RekagonPants]

Eric wants the Gurren Lagann approach to Tau piloting, I like it

[@gutta_the_III]

One of the best pieces of warhammer media is the audio drama; "A deadly wit" I listened to it and wanted to buy a harlequin army, only to find that there are like four cool models. Hope they rectify this and do the quins justice, great video!

[@ianmohr4183]

Whether the Soul Grinder goes away or not, I would like to see another undivided daemon model that can be customized for any daemonic alignment, similar to the Soul Grinder (but doing different things, obviously). The undivided part of the codex is just Daemon Princes and Soul Grinders (R.I.P Furies).

[@Nomnomnomnomie]

You lot should make a Patreon tier that works towards Eric getting a Stompa. He would have to paint it aaand many photos/ maybe a video. Like the one that got him to paint the great unclean one.

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

Following your rules, here's one model I'd like to add for each of the factions I play in the order you presented them in: Necrons: More anti-psychic, so something like the shield generator suggestion in the video except it denies psychic powers within a certain range (or at least makes it harder to perform them). Tyranids: Just like in the video, a larger Carnifex-type unit that acts as a knight equivalent. Bonus points if it copies an Ork trait from being based on Ork DNA harvested from the Octarius War. Daemons: More Chaos Undivided daemons, like some sort of troops unit. Bonus points if it fits with the Ruinstorm Daemons aesthetic so it can be used as lesser daemons in Heresy, too. CSM: Do Chaos relic terminators (maybe as an upgrade pack that adds spikes and tusks to Cataphractii and Tartaros terminators) count? If yes, then those, if not then some kind of Chaos apothecary (the Death Guard can't be the only ones who still make use of them). Death Guard: Is it cheating to ask for Warpsmiths? Maybe a special Death Guard version that fits with their aesthetic? Thousand Sons: A Rubric Dreadnought (like the old metal one but with the "all is dust" rule so we don't have to rely on only Helbrutes. World Eaters (I don't play them, but this needs to be said): generic foot lords. Every other Chaos faction has them...

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

The Thousand sons have that BEAUTIFUL dreadnought from the Heresy years, that would work so brilliantly in modern TSons colours, but when asked the FW designers said ‘sadly, the technology for many things has been lost, and the technology for psychic dreadnoughts is one of them’ In the legion all about unrestricted knowledge. Who can literally ask the Chaotic deity of knowledge, complexity and scheming. The legion whose Primarch is ALIVE AND ACTIVE AMONG THEM, WHO *DESIGNED THE PSYCHIC DREADNOUGHTS PERSONALLY* 😅 What a waste of such a cool model… it doesn’t even need to be good (and probably shouldn’t be, to not give Forge World model painfully good rules) but they are literally coming up with an excuse that falls apart the second you think about it, just to… prevent them from selling more of those to 40k players…? Good grief, I’m glad 40k and the Heresy are moving closer to the community’s care and stewardship nowadays… it’s a shame what’s become of the company in some ways, even if there’s obviously some good-meaning people in there

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

@@tomgeytenbeek2207 That excuse GW gave is even more BS when you consider that the Blood Angels have their Librarian dreadnoughts! If _they_ can have them, why can't the sons of Magnus?

[@josephnewis]

Surely the big chaos demon monster should be a Slaughterbrute/Mutalith Vortex Beast? Makes way more sense in Chaos Demons!

[@Anaxakorgas]

For the Harlequins having a "public", "spectators" unit would be great. Maybe people that lost themselves in the webway or that followed the harlequins after a raid. They could even be wraith constructs.

[@s.k4713]

Imagine for the nurgle transport it’s just a gigantic grub with transport holes along its sides.

[@quattrobajeena6484]

your idea for a repulsor knight makes me think of the Warahammer 40k equivalent of a Dom from mobile suit gundam.

[@331benjamin7]

I know I’m a little late, but for the shield Necron unit you could have a model set that includes the unit and an “impassible” terrain piece that could be places within so many inches of the model!

[@christophergraf9536]

I would make the genestealer cults have a crane model. It would be a slower vehicle with some melee ability. But its main purpose is that it would carry this crate that when dropped enemy units could take damage, but it could contain some troops, or it would just be a bunch of explosives. Maybe you could also make the kit into a second wrecking ball unit.

[@Jfk2Mr]

So a anti-large melee vehicle?

[@VallornDeathblade]

Regarding a giant mech that transports smaller mechs. Battletech clan mechs can have people in powered armour suits (very much like stealth suits in size and ability) cling onto them and ride them before leaping off into combat.

[@plasticmechanic5006]

I never thought about the potential of an all grot army. I love the idea of a grot-copter!

[@casualnoobgaming3672]

Scourge are considered mercenary units, they are fast attack, and in lore they are made by the Coven. So, Coven technically have a fast attack

[@maxwaltham5853]

On the subject of smaller heldrakes for thousand sons, the old epic scale tzeetch daemon engines would work perfectly just remake the doom wings/fire lords. Seems like a good lore fit.

[@WarpsmithAdam]

My only two wish list items are both for Imperial Knights. I'd like something that's a little between the Armigers & Questoris knights, something that sits around 250-300pts per model. I'd also like a psychic knight, preferably in either a new chasis or a Dominus knight. The 9th edition knights codex feels like The Questoris Show ft. Armigers.

[@AugustMeyer]

Brad's "I want a bigger, siege-sized" Carnifex monster just got granted with the new Norm Assimilator.

[@insufficientdata0247]

What I want for necrons is something that show they’re not only masters of the materium but also the can dampen the warp. Something like a blackstone construct that dampens warp energy or energy in general.

[@thenosternook]

Introducing the Ynnari elite until through kill team could be an interesting kill team and I love the idea of it!

[@DuzzitOlivern]

That Necron shield unit is something I'd love in the tau army, maybe something that uses repulsor fields which tau have to mess with enemy melee units/act as a general shield thingy.

[@jo_ken]

Really like having Scions mentioned in the guard section. Even if breaking one of the earlier mentioned rules I’d want the Drop Sentinel to return or the Tauros being given to them. Just some form of fast attack that packs a good high strength weapon.

[@Senbei01]

Chaos-wise.... In the 90's there were some Epic scale Slaanesh Chaos Knight models (3 different types) and some Slaaneshi Light Titans.... they.. were a little odd, had high-heels and zoomed about as fast as Eldar Jetbikes. there was also a Nurgle transport, which was a Great Unclean One possessed siege tower. For quite a long while Chaos armies didn't get Jump infantry or (mechanical) skimmers. The rulebooks put it down to them being able to repair that tech 'on the road'. AdMech used to have "Tech Guard", who sat somewhere closer to Imperial Guard than Skitari. They didn't get too many releases... being a late Epic thing... but did get an assault company in customised Chimera variants - and a special Infantry company that got to ride about in an Imperator Titan.

[@TehCorbzor]

I would love to be able to make a complete Grot based list.

[@fumarc4501]

Rebel Grotz!

[@thetherapist53]

They weeb'd Farsight out so much, his model has goddamn Sakura blossoms.

[@AlexJaneway]

Thousand son's idea the weapon to give em on the discs is Conversion Beamers, the ones from the olde days that turns metal into flesh, that then looses all of it's molecular bonds.

[@jaba5965]

It was fantastic episode. I cant wait to another one. :)

[@zawisy]

Chaos has decimators that are bigger then hellbrutes and been around before redemptor dreads and then eldar has corsairs which is kinda a hybrid of normal and dark eldar stuff

[@sitnam9054]

A plastic Decimator kit would be lovely

[@salizar2074]

Had the idea for either a CSM character or small unit. A sniper marine (like the Vigilator from the heresy) with giant eyes for pauldrons and a cable leading from the scope to his face. Thought that'd be neat Also an opera singer character for the Emperor's Children with a horrifically distended throat would be awesome

[@blissfulbadger]

Chaos Knights: Return to Oz Wheelers build! I love it!

[@socialdeviant13]

Orks: as someone who plays Beast Snaggas in a Deathskulls army, PLEASE GIVE ME BOTH!!! I want the adorable squigs AND the "two turns, then it blows up" grot vehicles! Actually, thinking about it, the Grotkopta sounds like more useful bomb squigs. Honestly, if we could get more grot models, it might be fun to play a grot-based army, and they would make SOOOO much sense in a Deathskulls army!

[@yeastie713]

The Dimachaeron is basically exactly what you wanted haha

[@Yellowsock13]

The nurgle transport should be modelled after that frog that has it's babies burst out of its back

[@jordanryan4817]

Found this youtube channel recently and watching everything, cool to see their thoughts on tyranids and what we got

[@MechaEmperor7000]

So when you got to the chaos section, there's a few things that might make you happy/mad/salty. For one, in old epic 40k there were all those Knights you've listed; the slaaneshi one kinda looks like a seeker/crab hybrid called the subjugator (and may have had a model from Armorcast). Chaos Knights being all sorts of warp-spawned monstrosities was totally a thing back then. The Sonic Dreadnought you guys mentioned was a model made sometime in the mid 2000's, not 90's. However, the rules for Sonic Vehicles did exist and this is where Eric is going to die a little on the inside; Sonic Weapons use to just replace existing weapons on other vehicles, namely Autocannons can be replaced with Blastmasters, Heavy Bolters into Sonic Blasters, and Flamers/heavy flamers into Doom Sirens. This conversion, however, had to be depicted, so the FW dread was more made as a "I want to pay money to skip this conversion" type of deal that later had to get it's own rules because this option disappeared. This also means that, yes, you could take a Predator armed with a Blastmaster and Sonic Blasters, Noise Havocs with 4 Blastmasters in the HS choice, and Noise Terminators (among others). Weirdly, the Defiler is the only one who can't be upgraded this way despite having Heavy Bolters and Reaper Autocannons as options. That big "fuckoff" dread thing Brad wants, potentially from the Word Bearers with oldass dreadnoughts? Mhara Gal (so I guess this technically means he violated his own rule?) Tsons: There was a popular conversion back in older edition where you just have a sorceror conjuring weapons as an obliterator. That kinda sounds like what you want, except they're the rubric terminators with weapons instead of a sorceror throwing magic plasma shots. World Eaters: How did you remember the blightlords on bloatfly for deathguard but blank on Skullcrushers for World Eaters? EDIT: I said Eric wanted the big f-off dread when it was Brad. Sorry.

[@francescognerre2408]

I am looking to get into 40k and imperial guard was one of the top 3 factions I was looking into but the lack of krieg, mordion, and vostroyan units really turned them off for me, since those are the ones that drew me to imperial guard (i am coming from playing a bit of only war)

[@coolisron2041]

What about for Eldar, a Wraith HQ choice? As far as I know there is no wraithlord or guard that has become badass enough to be an HQ

[@basstedson]

The wraithseer used to be one.

[@JeffAndresWilliams]

I really enjoy this type of content, gets the creative juices flowing.

[@petararmbruster5039]

i wish Custodes had a Sagittarum side-grade with muliple gun options, like a flamer/lascannon variant for more flexibility, make em an elite and give em completely customizable guns, like 2 flamers but give the telemon caestus profile, or a twin adratic cannon, letting them be more useful

[@abrahamjohn7183]

I know it goes against the rules, but I don't know what the base canoptek base is called. The huge titan-sized canoptek leviathan in twice dead king book 2 that tore a hole in the Machanicum ship. Either that or an HQ canoptek like the Duke of Deathmarks from the same series.

[@sentionno.4553]

If you wanna see what a Hover knight could be like, look up the Gundam Kimaris

[@moschbear]

4:50 :D that is so incredible Timmy .. I Love It !

[@mikoajciemiega8018]

"We need dinosaurs in 40k" Beastboss on squigosaur "Am I a joke to you? "

[@Alex-bc3gz]

I would absolutely start a sslyth army if I could

[@Danzyr]

You lost me at "No dinosaurs"

[@TheRoark]

Watching along, writing mine out before hearing what the guys say- Tau: non-humanoid auxiliary aliens. Make 'em huge and weird! Orks: Drop Rok! Just a giant rock with Orky gubbins on it that the orks can drop into the battlefield with. It does mortals to every unit in 12" including the unit it transports. Necrons: Massive canoptek swarm flyer. drops scarabs as it flies. Votann: Ogryn sized ironkyn unit with mining picks Tyranids: Shai Hulud. Just a massive base with a maw jutting from the ground. Genestealer Cult: Lord of War mega drill. See above but mechanincal. Drukhari: Exotic alien slave unit. We need more monstrous aliens in 40k. Craftworlds: Bonesingers! Such a cool name and concept, could be a support attachment for wraith units. Harlequins: lol. Chaos Daemons: Warp rift transport. A sort of barely contained rift that you can deploy daemons in reserve from, like a chaos monolith. Chaos Knights: Knight that has a chaos altar built atop it. Chaos Space Marines: Sniper Character (for alpha legion, it is seriously missing). Death guard: Plague Marine cavalry on Catoblepas-like daemons. Rubric Marines: Melee Rubrics (Khenetai cult, 2 swords) World Eaters: Bikes or juggernaut cavalry. Sisters: Airplanes with filigree and gothic architectural designs. Maybe a bomber that drops holy handgrenades. Custodes: Sisters of Silence Kharon transport from 30k. Coolest transport in any range! Admech: More robed priests, maybe a magus biologis genetor in a vat. Guard: CRUSADERS! Or cheap mass cavalry, not attilan rough riders. Grey Knights: 3 man daemon-sword weilders- like bladeguard with flaming swords. Imperial Knights: We have a lot of Imperial knights, let's get some weirder Mechanicus knights in there. One that is covered in cables and machadendrites would be awesome. Space Marines: Gravis Chaplain. Gravis Librarian. Gravis Techmarine. Gravis Hammer and Shield Unit. Just... more Gravis please. It's the only thing space marines need! This was fun! Definitely had to think outside the box for some of these as they are factions I rarely think about (if ever, sorry Drukhari).

[@ExternalDialogue]

For guard i think what would be really cool would be a support vehicle. Basically just make a plastic trojan, but give it three new build options. Trojan Ammunition Carrier - got a loading crane on the back and can give a buff to the number of shots done by a vehicle next to it. Trojan Engineering Vehicle - Got a big dozer blade and a large servo arm, can create light cover and repair vehicles. Trojan Communications Vehicle - Can route any vox signal that is within its larger vox range, can transport ten guys as opposed to the 5 of the other variants, and can be used as a command vehicle. And it doesnt break the rules since the trojan just went out of stock.

[@DukePotVase]

I don't know... I think adding even more mechs to Tau really only enforces the same playstyle, adds more unnecessary options (where none is really neeeded) and doesn't really solve the issue of their one-dimensional playstyle. Making things bigger and grander also feels kinda impractical and ressource demanding, which the Tau really are not. And while cool, melee focussed mechas would not make a lot of sense lore wise. It kinda seems to go against their whole doctrine of designing warfare, which keeps their losses to a minimum, by maintaning distance to their enemies. Perhaps something along the line of an elite melee focussed cadre, which serves under Farsight or perhaps shock field drones, but not more than that. I'd rather see GW expand more on the Tau's pool of auxilliaries. Next to giant Mechas, this is what got me into Tau in the first place. That they did not merely subjugate other races but tried to integrate them into their army, allowing them to shore up their weaknesses in ways, which other factions could not. Kroots have War spheres, so why not some sort of ramshackle vehicle option, ala Mad Max, which fuses their own stuff with jury-rigged Tau Tech? Wbu a melee Vespid unit, inspired by hornets (they are bee/fly like after all)? It is even said, that the Tau have this one client species, the Nicassar, which are all psychically gifted. I think those are much more interesting avenues, which GW could explore

[@majorej4360]

I would love Tau auxiliaries cause they would fit in that meele range and could even have larger xeno races that can act like Knight equivalent

[@zramirez5471]

I really feel like GW is taking a HUGE loss not having crossover rules for units like squighoppers in 40k; AT LEAST half of all ork armies would feature at least one unit of squighoppers #changemymind

[@dadab22]

When talking with one of my friends, he would mention how cool it would be if an imperial knight could get almost like an antigrav "horse". Just someting it could unironicall ride. While I disagreed on that one, we both agreed that a chaos knight centaur would be pretty dope.

[@_AvgWellInformedCitizen]

I want a Slaaneshi Noise Marine Dreadnought character which is so ancient & deformed that it looks like a cross between a wolf spider and a blue ring octopus. Cthulhu-esque melee oriented with terrifying spider eyes, tentacles & fangs, and a pair of large membranes that serve as a pair of twin-linked heavy doom sirens on steroids.

[@brassviking486]

Saying about the nids I got one of the mcfarlane genestealer to convert into one of these and use as a hierodule.